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Title: Between karma and points which one is better
Post by: DannyD234 on February 03, 2024, 03:02:27 AM
Hi I'm new to the forum

I was wondering is karma more important than point or the other way round
Title: Re: Between karma and points which one is better
Post by: Jokers on February 03, 2024, 05:12:07 PM
Points is a reward the forum gives you for your good contribution, they can be changed to the forum tokens.

Karma is the way other users evaluate your posts: if they like them they can give +karma, if they really dislike your behavior they can give -karma.
Title: Re: Between karma and points which one is better
Post by: MrSpasybo on February 03, 2024, 05:37:00 PM
Hi I'm new to the forum

I was wondering is karma more important than point or the other way round
From my point of view: Karma is more important than Points, so let's focus on Karma.

Points only help you get AltcoinsTalks forum ALTT tokens. ALTT tokens can be traded on Pancake Swap or burned for some special purposes. You can read more information about Points in The Guide to get your tokens (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=9231.0).
I believe that ALTT cannot make you rich in this market, it is considered a small reward to give you more motivation to learn and be active on the forum 💪

Karma is one of the necessary requirements to Rank up. With a high enough rank, you can participate in signature campaigns on the forum to receive very attractive rewards. You can refer to LIVE bounty campaigns on AltcoinsTalks forum (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=180177).

So try to create posts with good quality to get more Karma, instead of creating long posts to get more Points ^^
Title: Re: Between karma and points which one is better
Post by: robelneo on February 03, 2024, 06:14:09 PM
Points is a reward the forum gives you for your good contribution, they can be changed to the forum tokens.

Karma is the way other users evaluate your posts: if they like them they can give +karma, if they really dislike your behavior they can give -karma.

So every member should desire to acquire more karma because it defines your reputation here on Altcoinstalks, the more quality posts you provide and contribute here, the more reputable you become, and because karma can be deducted we must maintain our reputation here so karma can be deducted and increased based on your reputation here, and since we cannot see who gives us and deduct our karma there is no drama and there is no conflict between members.
Title: Re: Between karma and points which one is better
Post by: I-Bit on February 03, 2024, 11:34:58 PM
I was wondering is karma more important than point or the other way round
Why do you need to compare between karma and point?
Both karma and point are important because it shows your contribution in forum. If you more often contributed in this forum, you will have more points. Being active will also make people to reward us with karma. I don't have many karmas, but I think it is good enough to see karma in our profile because of our contribution. I'm sure it won't be difficult to get karma if we are active in this forum.


Title: Re: Between karma and points which one is better
Post by: DabsPoorVersion on February 04, 2024, 08:13:06 AM
Hi I'm new to the forum

I was wondering is karma more important than point or the other way round
Both Karma and points are significant in this forum. Karma can be considered similar to the likes or dislikes you receive on your posts. In other words, the more Karma you have, the more quality or helpful posts you have created that many users have benefited from or gained knowledge about. On the other hand, the points that you earn on the platform can be exchanged for ALTS tokens. The more points you accumulate, the more ALTS tokens you can obtain.
Title: Re: Between karma and points which one is better
Post by: Faisal2202 on February 04, 2024, 05:24:32 PM
Hi I'm new to the forum

I was wondering is karma more important than point or the other way round
I think karma is more better because your points will increase on the basis of karma you will get, but not solely due to karma, as posts, online time, and there must be other factors included too that take part in the increment of points. Both have different purposes, points can bring altt tokens for you while karma will bring rank to you.

If you wanted to rank rather than earning ALTT tokens then you should focus on how to contribute to this forum, and you will start getting karmas and points as well, to be very honest, I don't know how I got this much points, I was not focusing on them either. So I say karma are most important.
Title: Re: Between karma and points which one is better
Post by: SamReomo on February 04, 2024, 05:45:35 PM
Hi I'm new to the forum

I was wondering is karma more important than point or the other way round
Hi, welcome to the forum, I would say that Karma is much important than the points that we get for our contribution. The Karma can't be earned because it's a thing that you will get when other members find your posts valuable.

If you make some good posts then you'll get some karma but making more posts will be enough for you to earn points. If you really want to earn positive karma then post informative stuff here on this forum but if your main concern is to earn points then you can make more posts on daily basis.
Title: Re: Between karma and points which one is better
Post by: Z-tight on February 04, 2024, 07:52:55 PM
I was wondering is karma more important than point or the other way round
It depends on which one you think is important to you, like other members have said in this topic, the forum rewards you with points, points can be converted to forum tokens, but it would not be worth too much, so don't think you can get rich through earning points in the forum. Karma is earned through other members, so if you make good posts, other members reward you with + karma, so i think karma is more important, but you may have other ideas.
Title: Re: Between karma and points which one is better
Post by: EluguHcman on February 09, 2024, 06:38:41 PM
Points are rewarded in the forum based on your participation volumes while kama are rewards issued by forum members based on how interesting and quality posts are formed.
Meanwhile... The kama enhances you with the chances to elevate your rank while points is a measurement stipulating the level of your participations.
Title: Re: Between karma and points which one is better
Post by: Aanuoluwatofunmi on February 10, 2024, 11:32:27 PM
Hi I'm new to the forum

I was wondering is karma more important than point or the other way round

The two are important, you earn karma as trust and this shows how committed you have been in giving out informations through your post being made, if you get points, it shows how you have been active and posting, you can later choose to withdraw your points or leave to continue accumulating, but you can't sell your karma, you just earn it for add ups to your profile trust, the more you advance in posts and rank then you will experience more of these
Title: Re: Between karma and points which one is better
Post by: Lucius on February 12, 2024, 05:48:56 PM
Points is a reward the forum gives you for your good contribution, they can be changed to the forum tokens.
~snip~


Is there a formula for points? I've noticed that my number of points hasn't moved for a few days now, so I'm just wondering how that part works?
Title: Re: Between karma and points which one is better
Post by: DabsPoorVersion on February 12, 2024, 09:13:24 PM
Points is a reward the forum gives you for your good contribution, they can be changed to the forum tokens.
~snip~


Is there a formula for points? I've noticed that my number of points hasn't moved for a few days now, so I'm just wondering how that part works?
The admin posted an update on February 7th stating that there will be a change in the way points are earned. Instead of getting points for every post, you will only receive points if you create a new topic. Please note that this change is only effective for one week.

View more information here and a few discussions about the update.
https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=317216.msg1491983#msg1491983
Title: Re: Between karma and points which one is better
Post by: Tribalchief on February 15, 2024, 12:19:20 PM
Hi I'm new to the forum

I was wondering is karma more important than point or the other way round
You won't want to neglect either of them, as they serve different purposes on the forum. Earning positive+Karma means your post/replies are quite satisfying, and you could also issue one out when you've reached the required rank. You also earn points from post which you could also convert to ATT tokens.

They all have their own benefit and applications on the forum, so you should consider aiming to get both.
Title: Re: Between karma and points which one is better
Post by: Aanuoluwatofunmi on February 15, 2024, 09:32:38 PM
As I will always say, it is better to have the two altogether than only of one them, one will serves as the proof for your consistent quality posts and the other for trust, once you're trusted then that's all, other members will always find a quality taughts concerning the post you're making, knowing that the consistency in what you're giving is worth being reliable, and not like those that post shits.
Title: Re: Between karma and points which one is better
Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on March 02, 2024, 10:47:04 PM
@DannyD234, Welcome to the forum. You need karma and points on the forum, which is not really hard to archive. If you contribute positively on the forum, you will receive some karma from fellow members who appreciate the idea you have shared, while you will intentionally earn free points any time you make a post. The points are converted to forum coins, just like jokers already said. Karma is important because you will need it when others achieve some other high rank. 
Title: Re: Between karma and points which one is better
Post by: DabsPoorVersion on March 02, 2024, 11:59:27 PM
@DannyD234, Welcome to the forum. You need karma and points on the forum, which is not really hard to archive. If you contribute positively on the forum, you will receive some karma from fellow members who appreciate the idea you have shared, while you will intentionally earn free points any time you make a post. The points are converted to forum coins, just like jokers already said. Karma is important because you will need it when others achieve some other high rank.
To make it simple,

Points = ALTT tokens (you can use it to delete posts or use this to try other features of the forum where you can find the information in the Shop. In short, it is money.

Karma = number of how many of your posts liked by other forum members, it means your contribution to sharing knowledge and useful information. It's the same as receiving a good deed.
Title: Re: Between karma and points which one is better
Post by: Baofeng on March 03, 2024, 12:33:16 AM
Hi I'm new to the forum

I was wondering is karma more important than point or the other way round

I think Karma is important, it shows how you contributed in this community. Points might come along with your posting here.

So just don't overthink it specially if you are a "beginner" here, as you gain more experience and feel comfortable here, for sure those two are going to come to you. So best of luck in your journey here.
Title: Re: Between karma and points which one is better
Post by: angrybirdy on March 04, 2024, 11:56:24 PM
Hi I'm new to the forum

I was wondering is karma more important than point or the other way round

I think Karma is important, it shows how you contributed in this community. Points might come along with your posting here.

So just don't overthink it specially if you are a "beginner" here, as you gain more experience and feel comfortable here, for sure those two are going to come to you. So best of luck in your journey here.
I agree, that karma is not necessary yet for OP's current rank since it is only required by higher ranks to achieve a more higher rank. It's better to focus on accumulating points while the rank is still low and not worry about karma for now. The best approach is to explore the forum and absorb as much information as possible to become more knowledgeable.
Title: Re: Between karma and points which one is better
Post by: bayu7adi on March 05, 2024, 09:16:55 AM
I find karma is harder to earn than points, so I assume karma is better. To be able to get karma, we have to contribute to this forum or make a post that is useful for many people. Of course this cannot be done with post spam.

Meanwhile, as far as I know, points will increase as long as we post on this forum. The more posts you make, the more points you can get.
Title: Re: Between karma and points which one is better
Post by: Agbe on March 05, 2024, 02:59:08 PM
As for now point is more important than Karma but my instinct says that time will come that karma will be utilize and it will be much more important than point in the forum. Time is coming that karma will be use like Merit in the bitcointalk. There will be a specific number of karma that one will have to enter into signature campaign. And if your don't have that number. So I advise everyone to create good post to receive +karma from now.
Title: Re: Between karma and points which one is better
Post by: Aanuoluwatofunmi on March 07, 2024, 02:58:15 PM
Why it will be difficult for either of these to be abused is that we don't have access to them, we cant know who is throwing karma at us and we cannot do same on whom we don't know, also about the points, everything lies on the way we post on the forum, the more active we are making posts, the more the points we earn increases upon every completed posts for each day.
Title: Re: Between karma and points which one is better
Post by: Mr. Allcrypto on March 23, 2024, 06:20:03 PM
The both are useful in the forum, just that the karma is giving by other advanced members of the forum if they find your post interesting or good, while the forum gives you points when you post...
Title: Re: Between karma and points which one is better
Post by: Penlex_Writer on March 23, 2024, 08:34:03 PM
The both are useful in the forum, just that the karma is giving by other advanced members of the forum if they find your post interesting or good, while the forum gives you points when you post...

I rate karma higher than points. My reason is that karma is like getting a thumbs up for a good post and so having karma shows that you are making an engaging post and so you should keep up but you can get points even when you are not making an engaging post. If my karma increases I will be happy but getting your points increased appears so normal and common compared to karma.
Title: Re: Between karma and points which one is better
Post by: Legion on March 25, 2024, 07:58:08 AM
The both are useful in the forum, just that the karma is giving by other advanced members of the forum if they find your post interesting or good, while the forum gives you points when you post...

I rate karma higher than points. My reason is that karma is like getting a thumbs up for a good post and so having karma shows that you are making an engaging post and so you should keep up but you can get points even when you are not making an engaging post. If my karma increases I will be happy but getting your points increased appears so normal and common compared to karma.
That's right, Karma is actually a reference that the person has contributed a lot to this forum so that the appreciation they get from the members is sharing positive karma with that user. Karma is also not easy to get now because it is currently being supervised directly by the admin.
Title: Re: Between karma and points which one is better
Post by: DabsPoorVersion on March 25, 2024, 10:33:50 AM
The both are useful in the forum, just that the karma is giving by other advanced members of the forum if they find your post interesting or good, while the forum gives you points when you post...

I rate karma higher than points. My reason is that karma is like getting a thumbs up for a good post and so having karma shows that you are making an engaging post and so you should keep up but you can get points even when you are not making an engaging post. If my karma increases I will be happy but getting your points increased appears so normal and common compared to karma.
That's right, Karma is actually a reference that the person has contributed a lot to this forum so that the appreciation they get from the members is sharing positive karma with that user. Karma is also not easy to get now because it is currently being supervised directly by the admin.
What do you mean by being supervised directly by the admin?
When giving karma to another user, you don't need to be supervised by the admin. The admin gives anyone from senior member rank and above the authority to send karma whether it is positive or negative on their own. No one needs supervision as it will be a lot of work for the admin.

And this is where our responsibility comes in. We need to be responsible enough and avoid abusing the karma system. Especially the negative karma, not because we don't agree with some other user's opinion, we will immediately give them a negative karma. The same as positive karma, we should always be responsible and avoid any abuse in the system.
Title: Re: Between karma and points which one is better
Post by: Thyplaymaker on March 25, 2024, 09:12:16 PM
Having the two just the best , though posting more would give you more points as the same time posting more shit post in order to earn points for your self would reduce the chances of you getting karma's, because having good number of karma's shows that you're really contributing, and would encourage you to keep on posting quality post to earn your self some merit from others users who found your post interesting or contributing. So you be active always and  enhancing your knowledge inorder to keep posting quality post and earning some karma's and same time some good points that can be latet converted to a certain amount of altcoin token .
Title: Re: Between karma and points which one is better
Post by: racham02 on March 27, 2024, 04:10:31 PM
Contributions are reflected in points and karma earned via active participation in the forum. As more people take notice of your contributions, you gain more points and karma. Being active is therefore essential for incentives and recognition.
Title: Re: Between karma and points which one is better
Post by: pacar_tiri on March 27, 2024, 07:18:24 PM
Contributions are reflected in points and karma earned via active participation in the forum. As more people take notice of your contributions, you gain more points and karma. Being active is therefore essential for incentives and recognition.
There may be some truth to the points system you explained, but the current karma system is very different, you have to be more careful before giving karma, you should often share positive karma for members here and don't abuse the karma system.
Title: Re: Between karma and points which one is better
Post by: Crypto Library on March 27, 2024, 10:56:00 PM
Hi I'm new to the forum

I was wondering is karma more important than point or the other way round
Recently, I saw an update where the admin mentioned that currently karma doesn't matter for ranking up. Now we have to understand what is karma is, if you post a quality full post and it is helpful for users then users will give you karma. So to get Karma you must post quality posts and that's why I think karma points are more important.
Because on the other hand, since you only keep the points and earning points is by increasing the post activity, now a user can increase the post activity in any way by spamming, by posting non-quality full posts, or by bounty campaign. Here maybe the user will get more points and can earn some cents by burning them, but if you want to increase the reputation, you must post quality post and as a result, karma will increase. But remember one thing that karma farming, admin do check this, so a smart user definitely don't want cheater tag on his account.
Title: Re: Between karma and points which one is better
Post by: Jokers on March 28, 2024, 07:07:40 AM
Recently, I saw an update where the admin mentioned that currently karma doesn't matter for ranking up.

It is probably so, at least for the lesser ranks, but these things can change on this forum with time. Ranking up requirements today are already not the same they were when I just came here, and they can be changed in the future. So no need paying too much attention to that, just enjoy your communication on the forum, share your ideas and news, stay positive and friendly and you'll get everything: karma, points, ranks, forum tokens, etc. ;)
Title: Re: Between karma and points which one is better
Post by: Crypto Library on March 28, 2024, 09:31:09 AM
It is probably so, at least for the lesser ranks, but these things can change on this forum with time. Ranking up requirements today are already not the same they were when I just came here, and they can be changed in the future. So no need paying too much attention to that, just enjoy your communication on the forum, share your ideas and news, stay positive and friendly and you'll get everything: karma, points, ranks, forum tokens, etc. ;)
You are right, I would like to agree with you. I actually mean that the main thing is to focus on the quality of the posts. Now since the ranking can done by only with the post activity, in this case many users will be seen who will only do spamming or like burst posting on bounty campaigns. And I think that there will be no benefit by these kind of ranking up. Quality posts are more important than Karma or earning points. I think quality does matters more than quantity of everything and when the post quality will increase every thing will go up as well as.
Title: Re: Between karma and points which one is better
Post by: Jokers on March 28, 2024, 11:05:22 AM
Now since the ranking can done by only with the post activity, in this case many users will be seen who will only do spamming or like burst posting on bounty campaigns. And I think that there will be no benefit by these kind of ranking up. Quality posts are more important than Karma or earning points.

Campaign managers know that ranking up is not so hard on our forum and there's no difference in signature code different ranks can wear, so they pay less attention to the rank and much more attention to other things, and the quality of posts is among the most important. Negative and positive badges forum can give is also important and, as far as I know, campaign managers keep that in mind. For instance negative quality badge (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=319457.0) holders are already not accepted to some campaigns at all.
Title: Re: Between karma and points which one is better
Post by: borovichok on March 30, 2024, 01:26:31 PM
Being active will also make people to reward us with karma. I don't have many karmas, but I think it is good enough to see karma in our profile because of our contribution. I'm sure it won't be difficult to get karma if we are active in this forum.

I'm not sure if this is right, but from what I've heard about the Karma system, it's similar to the merit system, and + Karma is only granted to useful posts, so being active doesn't help much. One could be here for 2-3 years and still struggle to get some, while another could be here for a few weeks and get a lot of + Karmas, so it's all about quality, just as on the other forum. Although the Karma system can be abuse easily given that any high-ranking account is able to give one while not receiving any (I gave out one +Karma while having zero Karma)
Title: Re: Between karma and points which one is better
Post by: Freemind on March 30, 2024, 04:35:57 PM
I'm not sure if this is right, but from what I've heard about the Karma system, it's similar to the merit system, and + Karma is only granted to useful posts, so being active doesn't help much. One could be here for 2-3 years and still struggle to get some, while another could be here for a few weeks and get a lot of + Karmas, so it's all about quality, just as on the other forum. Although the Karma system can be abuse easily given that any high-ranking account is able to give one while not receiving any (I gave out one +Karma while having zero Karma)

When a user is active it is supposed to be to contribute quality conversations and opinions, not to do nothing, which is why I don't agree with you 100%.

As for the karma system, it cannot be easily manipulated as you say, since it has restrictions. Each user can only give 1 positive or negative karma to the same user every 10 hours. In case a user receives a lot of negative or positive karma, the administrator will be able to see it in the logs and take necessary action.
Title: Re: Between karma and points which one is better
Post by: borovichok on March 30, 2024, 05:39:35 PM
I'm not sure if this is right, but from what I've heard about the Karma system, it's similar to the merit system, and + Karma is only granted to useful posts, so being active doesn't help much. One could be here for 2-3 years and still struggle to get some, while another could be here for a few weeks and get a lot of + Karmas, so it's all about quality, just as on the other forum. Although the Karma system can be abuse easily given that any high-ranking account is able to give one while not receiving any (I gave out one +Karma while having zero Karma)

When a user is active it is supposed to be to contribute quality conversations and opinions, not to do nothing, which is why I don't agree with you 100%.

We're partially saying the same thing here ; Karma is not earned based on activities but quality contributions, if I look around I'm likely going to see active accounts with  bunch of posts and no single positive karma.
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As for the karma system, it cannot be easily manipulated as you say, since it has restrictions. Each user can only give 1 positive or negative karma to the same user every 10 hours. In case a user receives a lot of negative or positive karma, the administrator will be able to see it in the logs and take necessary action.

I got abused (Karma)on my first day here and admin came to my rescue. I like.it.
Title: Re: Between karma and points which one is better
Post by: Freemind on March 31, 2024, 10:26:58 AM
I'm not sure if this is right, but from what I've heard about the Karma system, it's similar to the merit system, and + Karma is only granted to useful posts, so being active doesn't help much. One could be here for 2-3 years and still struggle to get some, while another could be here for a few weeks and get a lot of + Karmas, so it's all about quality, just as on the other forum. Although the Karma system can be abuse easily given that any high-ranking account is able to give one while not receiving any (I gave out one +Karma while having zero Karma)

When a user is active it is supposed to be to contribute quality conversations and opinions, not to do nothing, which is why I don't agree with you 100%.

We're partially saying the same thing here ; Karma is not earned based on activities but quality contributions, if I look around I'm likely going to see active accounts with  bunch of posts and no single positive karma.
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As for the karma system, it cannot be easily manipulated as you say, since it has restrictions. Each user can only give 1 positive or negative karma to the same user every 10 hours. In case a user receives a lot of negative or positive karma, the administrator will be able to see it in the logs and take necessary action.

I got abused (Karma)on my first day here and admin came to my rescue. I like.it.

The number of posts by a user does not have much relevance, since what should prevail is the quality of those posts. Users with many posts and little karma are usually users who post LQP with the sole purpose of increasing their account rank in order to participate in signature campaigns.

Just because you've received 1 or 2 negative karma doesn't mean the system has been rigged against you, it just means, from what I've read, that your reputation (deserved or not) precedes you. The negative karma probably comes from some BTT user who is on this forum, but don't give it too much importance. You should already know that if you (or any user) receive karma abuse, the administrator can put things back in their place, and the author or authors of that abuse will be punished.
Title: Re: Between karma and points which one is better
Post by: Litzki1990 on April 04, 2024, 06:38:46 PM
Hi I'm new to the forum

I was wondering is karma more important than point or the other way round
Most likely a few days ago the point was closed in lieu of posting. Basically by breaking the points you earn by posting you can buy the coins specific to this forum. This is the work of points, on the other hand karma is a different matter.  Karma You may not be able to buy coins by breaking like points but when you see positive karma on your profile it means that your posts are of good quality. Your post is quality and the post is informative enough that second or third party is giving you positive karma. Now all the new members who come to this forum may not be able to earn points but they can earn karma right away.
Title: Re: Between karma and points which one is better
Post by: Rruchi man on April 06, 2024, 07:51:52 PM
Points is a reward the forum gives you for your good contribution, they can be changed to the forum tokens.

Karma is the way other users evaluate your posts: if they like them they can give +karma, if they really dislike your behavior they can give -karma.
It is important as a forum member that you engage in the evaluation of the post and contributions of other forum members by giving karma to post that deserve it, because in doing so, you assist other forum members who may be new to see and identify forum members who are good members of this forum, and also be careful with others.

Karma is not the only factor to judge a good forum member though because there are some good forum members who have little karma because the people who have come across their post have been stingy with karmas, or not know how to give Karma.

Title: Re: Between karma and points which one is better
Post by: Findingnemo on April 07, 2024, 06:52:43 PM

Karma is not the only factor to judge a good forum member though. There are some good forum members who have little karma because the people who have come across their post have been stingy with karmas, or do not know how to give Karma.

I am literally new to this forum but not for crypto-related pieces of stuff which makes me have less Karma under my profile and thanks to the teleporting system which helped me to have the rank which I have on BTT.

I try to be on topic, post that contains some information, and learn a lot from others. Still have to make giving Karma a habit different from meriting, which I have yet to get used to.

+1.



Title: Re: Between karma and points which one is better
Post by: bitterguy28 on April 10, 2024, 04:02:05 AM
Hi I'm new to the forum

I was wondering is karma more important than point or the other way round
both are important but karma is one thing that represent your account in a manner compared to points than just showing how active you are,
but better to consider them both as important part of your ATT account .
Title: Re: Between karma and points which one is better
Post by: Sevi on April 25, 2024, 04:50:30 AM
I do think that both plays a vital role. Karma truly isn't the biggest factor to consider but still it is essential in the forum. Points also contribute a lot to see how active you are in the forum. To sum it up, both are important because karma shows how well do people like you and points shows how active you are.
Title: Re: Between karma and points which one is better
Post by: DabsPoorVersion on April 25, 2024, 05:52:05 AM
I do think that both plays a vital role. Karma truly isn't the biggest factor to consider but still it is essential in the forum. Points also contribute a lot to see how active you are in the forum. To sum it up, both are important because karma shows how well do people like you and points shows how active you are.
Maybe for now, but if you are reading for discussions regarding Karma, you will know that it might be one of the thing we need to consider, just like this one. The admin have a plan to change the ranking system, so we better watch for it.
Is it possible to associate karma with increasing rank?. That the minimum karma to rank up is at least 0 or more?.
And see admin's response...
will implement in next change to the ranking system, soon

adding one more to that,
I change the ranking as i see fit ... I do not want anyone to know the process, to avoid abuse.

For campaigns, some require good karma, others don't.
This is required to some signature campaign, even if we don't consider the possible major updates that might happen soon about karma, it is essential to participate in some campaigns.
Title: Re: Between karma and points which one is better
Post by: Freemind on April 25, 2024, 06:45:51 PM
Is it possible to associate karma with increasing rank?. That the minimum karma to rank up is at least 0 or more?.
And see admin's response...

The administrator's response is precisely what I expected, but a little earlier  :o In any case, I suppose that at the time I made the proposal maybe the problem was more focused on spam than other things, but fortunately in the next update we will see something that will help the forum more. Now that some signature campaigns will require a certain amount of karma, it is the best time to implement it.
Title: Re: Between karma and points which one is better
Post by: DabsPoorVersion on April 26, 2024, 12:26:06 PM
Is it possible to associate karma with increasing rank?. That the minimum karma to rank up is at least 0 or more?.
And see admin's response...

The administrator's response is precisely what I expected, but a little earlier  :o In any case, I suppose that at the time I made the proposal maybe the problem was more focused on spam than other things, but fortunately in the next update we will see something that will help the forum more. Now that some signature campaigns will require a certain amount of karma, it is the best time to implement it.
Maybe one factor of why the admin decided to have an earlier update regarding your request to associate karma with increasing rank is because a lot of accounts have suddenly become active, or some members decided to rush ranking up to participate in the increasing numbers of signature campaigns. This is an unexpected event for most of us that the mixer's campaign has brought here.
Title: Re: Between karma and points which one is better
Post by: SamReomo on April 26, 2024, 02:19:21 PM
This is an unexpected event for most of us that the mixer's campaign has brought here.
Yes, I highly agree with you, many members who are new on this forum try their best to rank up as soon as they possibly can by making so many posts on daily basis. I believe if the members who are making very good quality, helpful posts then there's nothing wrong even if they can rank in a few days to be eligible for the signature campaigns.

But if they create more posts which're more like spam posts then that's not a good thing and I believe in such case, it's far better have some karma requirement for ranking up. That way only those members who can earn some good amount of karma by creating helpful posts may get rank up, and such users would be helpful participants for signature campaigns if we see the positive side of the picture.
Title: Re: Between karma and points which one is better
Post by: Husna QA on April 26, 2024, 04:12:36 PM
-snip- it's far better have some karma requirement for ranking up. That way only those members who can earn some good amount of karma by creating helpful posts may get rank up, -snip-

In the past (2018), Admin used karma as one of the conditions for reaching Sr. Member rank and above. Its function is similar to the merit system on Bitcointalk.

-snip-
We will adopt 2 strategies to increasing difficulties:

1- Post count: all ranks above Jnr member, will gradually increase the post requirement, this will never stop, but we will not apply huge post incrementation at a time. This will be continual, pushing the members to continuous contributions, adaptation and evolution. We call this The Red Queen effect (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Queen_hypothesis).

2- Time & Karma requirements: time requirement will be introduced at one stage, it will limit the ranking up to 1-3 ranks per month.
Karma requirement will be applied only for Snr ranks and above /it is a merit system that would help the best members to reach the top positions.

However, if we refer to the new rank system: Everything You Need To Know About Forum Ranks. (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=316199.msg1480421#msg1480421)
It seems that the karma requirements for Snr rank and above are not clearly stated even though Admin said there:

-snip-
Other factors will also be required for ranks: Karma , activity, time ...
Title: Re: Between karma and points which one is better
Post by: DabsPoorVersion on April 29, 2024, 12:02:22 PM
This is an unexpected event for most of us that the mixer's campaign has brought here.
Yes, I highly agree with you, many members who are new on this forum try their best to rank up as soon as they possibly can by making so many posts on daily basis. I believe if the members who are making very good quality, helpful posts then there's nothing wrong even if they can rank in a few days to be eligible for the signature campaigns.

But if they create more posts which're more like spam posts then that's not a good thing and I believe in such case, it's far better have some karma requirement for ranking up. That way only those members who can earn some good amount of karma by creating helpful posts may get rank up, and such users would be helpful participants for signature campaigns if we see the positive side of the picture.
But the thing is, what this community got from those new users is mostly plagiarism or AI-generated text which is not welcome. Instead of having a more user who can contribute to this forum, more work especially for moderators to take action regarding their violations.

That's true, having a karma requirement will somehow solve the issue but we should expect the upcoming problems such as abuse in karma, and so on. So, the admin and moderators might have more work (but for the better). I know they have countermeasures with these problems, but yeah, it's a load of work.
Title: Re: Between karma and points which one is better
Post by: SamReomo on April 29, 2024, 09:01:45 PM
But the thing is, what this community got from those new users is mostly plagiarism or AI-generated text which is not welcome.
Yes, that's very true, most of the new members haven't brought any good information to this forum other than those AI generated content and plagiarized content, but some of those new members have been doing very well on this forum and they have ranked to Sr rank within few months.

That's true, having a karma requirement will somehow solve the issue but we should expect the upcoming problems such as abuse in karma, and so on.
Yes, karma requirements will most probably solve the issues that we may face with those new users but it's also true that karma could be abused in a bad way. But, as far as I remember, only those members can send karma who are Sr+ in rank, and that somehow reduces the manipulation to some good extent.
Title: Re: Between karma and points which one is better
Post by: Learn Bitcoin on April 30, 2024, 08:59:41 AM
If you compare Karma with Points, I consider Karma to be most valuable. The more karma a user has, the more valuable and quality content they share. Because any member can earn points by writing content or even by generating spam. But if someone wants to earn karma, they have to write quality content. I know there are other ways like reporting posts that are spam, AI-generated or plagiarism can also earn Karma. But, still, I think karma is better than the points. In the future, campaign managers may require you to have karma to be eligible to join a campaign. It should gives you a hint about how valuable the karma is.