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Dear Mixero,

I am happy to see that you added the security relevant features I suggested a couple weeks ago. That shows that you are taking our feedback seriously. Thumbs up!

I already tested your mixing service with a small amount BTC and it worked like a charm.

However there is one last feature missing, that prevents me from regularly using your service instead of the good old CryptoMixer:  Your Delay-Feature is not working properly when using two destination wallets. If using two destination wallets, there must also be two different Delay-Settings (just look at CryptoMixer's website, they have implentend this feature very well so that the user can specifiy differente delay durations).

Using blockchain analysis, third parties are able to track down mixing transactions made through Mixero, because even when using two different destination wallets, your payouts will be at the same time! However, being able to specify two different destination wallets AND two different delay durations makes it impossible for blockchain analysis of third parties to track down transactions mixed through Mixero!

Can you please make it possible to specify two different delay durations when using two different destination wallets?

Regards
Royaly

Hello, yes this feature is planned for Mixero we will develop this as soon as possible. We will publish a message when this function is implemented.

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UPDATE :

You can now check the status of your transaction using your Order ID on our /status page. The Order ID is visible on the invoice page as well as in the letter of guarantee.



FUTURE UPDATE :

We're currently implementing a partner system where we share 30% of the revenue generated by your referrals, offering you a lucrative opportunity to earn. This referral program is expected to be available by the end of the month, so stay tuned!

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Reputation, Scams & Phishing / Re: [Scam] Mllxero.io (with L)
« on: March 28, 2024, 05:51:57 PM »
I think a found a new scam site as well, maybe Mixero can confirm it?
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https://mixera.io/Sorry if this has been reported already, but if not then another fake and scam site.
I'm trying to look for other scam sites besides the OP put here, and then this site just pop up. They are using Mixero's logo and so I suspect that this is a fake and phishing site. Just need for Mixero team to validate it.

Hello, indeed mixera.io is a scam/phishing of our old design. What's more, after investigation it seems to generate a deposit address that's always the same (bc1quf4mj4575w7pd0xg899adet3m5acttshll9h5j), and after analyzing the transactions it seems that some customers have fallen for it. So please be careful and check the link you visit, especially if you come from a search engine.

Concerning mlixero.io the link is wrong, the link is mlxero.io with the l replacing the i, their google ad is still current so beware.

The best way to avoid being fooled is to check the letter of guarantee with our signature address as soon as you create an order on https://www.verifybitcoinmessage.com/.

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== Example 2 how Letter  of Guarantee should look like - Domain-Ending removed ==

-----START SIGNING BITCOIN ADDRESS-----
1TUMBLRXHDjFZacmFLbuDn2Rw1rcPgacR
-----END SIGNING BITCOIN ADDRESS-----

-----START LETTER OF GUARANTEE-----
We hereby confirm that Tumbler has generated the address bc1q4yzn3q348750pdfd4kprj2ktj9xp5qduw65mru in order to transfer incoming amount (minus fee) to the following addresses: 100% to bc1qnp22a90dqkqngpvg372vrw3kjn4p0udne56r2v after 349 min. This service will be only available for all bitcoins received from 2024 March 05, 17:59:24 UTC to 2024 March 06, 17:59:24 UTC with minimum amount of 0.001 BTC per single transaction and maximum amount of 512.6771 BTC total. Our fee is 1.27% + 0.0004 BTC for every target address. This letter is digitally signed by our main account: 1TUMBLRXHDjFZacmFLbuDn2Rw1rcPgacR. Order: tumbler /order#3NOGX7P4-58BJKY. Stay protected and thank you for using our service.
-----END LETTER OF GUARANTEE-----

-----START DIGITAL SIGNATURE-----
HDCkem/owJmtERfDX0VTptnEIsoEoC/WX92v7Ir7lPkISSZaI4mML+v99uH9rhNEPCfsmx9OC2mnMO1Aux4beEI=
-----END DIGITAL SIGNATURE-----


Hello, we've added more information to our letter of guarantee, and we've also added our signature address in the footer.

OK, it is clear that even if the user closes the order page, the mixing process will continue. But is there a possibility for the user to find an active order again? For example, Tumbler leaves a link in its letter of guarantee, so it is possible to check it later.

I saw that the deposit address is valid for 24 hours. Isn't that too short a deadline and what happens to deposits after that time?
With the high volatility of fees lately, it is very easy for a transaction to get stuck.

Hello, when our service has detected your deposit the address can no longer be "expired". However, 1 confirmation is required before your payment can be processed.

Concerning a page to consult the status of your transaction, we are currently working on it and it should be available soon.

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Dear Mixero,

I would love to user your service, however I have to admit that I find your Letter of Guarantee (LoG) completely senseless. In the signed message of your LoG you do NOT mention the destination BTC address. Therefore in case of a dispute or potential exit ripp, nobody can use the LoG prove that no funds were sent to the destination address.

What's even worse, your "official" BTC address which you use to sign your LoG, is not even findabel on Google: 1HsM2JbyKnqwcYvEm1kLMNwJtqb6uxSczd So it seems, that this wallet is not even posted on  your websit or in this thread. You should replace this standard wallet with a Vanity Address and post it on your website footer and in this thread (just like CryptoMixer: 1CrypMixXWtTjYGCM5ZJmyQYP1Y39P7aLM and Tumbler: 1TUMBLRXHDjFZacmFLbuDn2Rw1rcPgacR)

Could you please improve your LoG and make it look like the LoG of for example CryptoMixer or Tumbler? Both, CryptoMixer and Tumbler, provide Letter of Guarantee, which contain all required information.

What do you think about these two suggested improvements? Without both your service soes not look trustworthy to me.

Regards
Royaly

P.S. For reference I will copy your LoG and more usefull LoG examples of the above mentioned sites:

=== Mixero's senseless Letter of Guarantee ===

This message has been signed with our signature 1HsM2JbyKnqwcYvEm1kLMNwJtqb6uxSczd

-----START DATE-----
Tue, 05 Mar 2024 20:40:09 +0300
-----END DATE-----

-----START LETTER OF GUARANTEE-----
Here is your letter of guarantee. Keep it carefully as it represents the unique proof of your transaction. Mixero confirms that the following address: bc1qnp22a90dqkqngpvg372vrw3kjn4p0udne56r2v has been generated in order to receive your funds at the destination address indicated.
-----END LETTER OF GUARANTEE-----

-----START SIGNATURE-----
IH5A+sTarI3mPbjwjZWIlM2fIok9sjMQys3pT4sX3ZvIXv8g4T/+nguHUwu/8upkq7GcmPpEdXlBvgskUDtU+go=
-----END SIGNATURE-----

-----START ADDRESS FOR SENDING FUNDS-----
bc1qnp22a90dqkqngpvg372vrw3kjn4p0udne56r2v
-----END ADDRESS FOR SENDING FUNDS-----

You need to send the letter of guarantee in case of problem within 24 hours of your payment. Please note that failure to do so will render the letter obsolete and unusable in accordance with our Confidentiality of Data.

== Example 1 how Letter  of Guarantee should look like - Domain-Ending removed ==

-----START SIGNING BITCOIN ADDRESS-----
1CrypMixXWtTjYGCM5ZJmyQYP1Y39P7aLM
-----END SIGNING BITCOIN ADDRESS-----

-----START LETTER OF GUARANTEE-----
We hereby confirm that CRYPTOMIXER has generated the address bc1qm6vhlfsuz20xy6qp8j7l25fzcjktqv2d8c0afk in order to transfer incoming amount (minus fee) to the following addresses: 100% to bc1qnp22a90dqkqngpvg372vrw3kjn4p0udne56r2v after 0 minutes. This service will be only available for all bitcoins received from 2024 March 5, 17:59:45 UTC to 2024 March 6, 17:59:45 UTC with minimum amount of 0.001 BTC per single transaction and maximum amount of 30.57 BTC total. Our fee is 0.8492% + 0.0005 BTC for every target address. This letter is digitally signed by our main account: 1CrypMixXWtTjYGCM5ZJmyQYP1Y39P7aLM. Stay protected and thank you for using our service.
-----END LETTER OF GUARANTEE-----

-----START DIGITAL SIGNATURE-----
Gx0F05udl9QqqGPD99SeXleo5x1fmSky2S3xlPiApUniKpUtjo39eXevLPlsdw0aa87pTCqThIUkfh1kYd06m2g=
-----END DIGITAL SIGNATURE-----


== Example 2 how Letter  of Guarantee should look like - Domain-Ending removed ==

-----START SIGNING BITCOIN ADDRESS-----
1TUMBLRXHDjFZacmFLbuDn2Rw1rcPgacR
-----END SIGNING BITCOIN ADDRESS-----

-----START LETTER OF GUARANTEE-----
We hereby confirm that Tumbler has generated the address bc1q4yzn3q348750pdfd4kprj2ktj9xp5qduw65mru in order to transfer incoming amount (minus fee) to the following addresses: 100% to bc1qnp22a90dqkqngpvg372vrw3kjn4p0udne56r2v after 349 min. This service will be only available for all bitcoins received from 2024 March 05, 17:59:24 UTC to 2024 March 06, 17:59:24 UTC with minimum amount of 0.001 BTC per single transaction and maximum amount of 512.6771 BTC total. Our fee is 1.27% + 0.0004 BTC for every target address. This letter is digitally signed by our main account: 1TUMBLRXHDjFZacmFLbuDn2Rw1rcPgacR. Order: tumbler /order#3NOGX7P4-58BJKY. Stay protected and thank you for using our service.
-----END LETTER OF GUARANTEE-----

-----START DIGITAL SIGNATURE-----
HDCkem/owJmtERfDX0VTptnEIsoEoC/WX92v7Ir7lPkISSZaI4mML+v99uH9rhNEPCfsmx9OC2mnMO1Aux4beEI=
-----END DIGITAL SIGNATURE-----


Hello, we've added more information to our letter of guarantee, and we've also added our signature address in the footer.

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Hello everyone, it seems that another domain has appeared (mlxero.io). This domain is a scam/copy of our website so please be careful, they paid a Google ad for it and their domain appears first with the keyword "mixero".

The domain in question has already been reported.

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@mixero.io & @AB de Royse777, I stumbled across a site today - I’ve gone through the app to see if it’s mixero’s mirror link but I couldn’t find any information about it.

The site: https(:)//mixera(.)io/

One thing I noticed was that they kept using the same deposit address no matter how many times you restarted the procedure from the beginning; we also saw this behaviour on multiple phishing links we reported for Unijoin back then in Bitcointalk.org.

I simply wanted to let you know in case it does not belong to you, so that proper action may be taken to avoid anyone from losing money to it.

Hello this site is indeed a phishing/scam (mixera.io) it seems that several customers have already fallen into the trap, we will report this site. Stay away from this service and double check the domain name you are visiting.

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Hello, we can't tell you exactly what service we're using as we feel it may affect the anonymity of our customers but all we can tell you is that we're using instant exchanges.
OK, good to know.
So that basically means that you down own any larger amount of monero coins, and you need to buy them when you have demand  for mixing.
There are not many instant exchanges and I have a good idea what exactly you are using ;)

We have established a Monero reserve to facilitate faster transactions and lower costs on our end. This reserve is currently effective for small amounts, as it is still in the "test" phase. Our goal is to create a substantial reserve to expedite exchanges. With such a reserve, we would only need to convert Monero into Bitcoin for the user, significantly enhancing anonymity and processing speed.

Concerning the instant exchanges we don't rely on a single exchange platform; instead, we evaluate several exchanges to identify the one offering the most favorable rates and lowest fees.

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After exchanging your BTC for XMR, we direct the funds through an intermediary wallet. This strategy ensures that the exchanges involved in the BTC to XMR and XMR back to BTC transactions remain unaware of this intermediary wallet, making it difficult for them to link any transaction details associated with this intermediary. Furthermore, due to Monero's built-in privacy features, exchanges are inherently unable to determine the source address of a Monero transaction. Our approach of using an intermediary wallet bolsters this privacy, offering an extra layer of security and anonymity in the transaction process.
Can you tell us what sources are you using to get monero coins that you are using for Advanced mixing service?
Binance and few other bigger centralized exchanges have delisted monero and it is getting harder to get coins when you need them fast.
I wonder what happens if you don't have any XMR and someone wants to use advanced mixing option.

Hello, we can't tell you exactly what service we're using as we feel it may affect the anonymity of our customers but all we can tell you is that we're using instant exchanges.

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You seem to have not understood the best of what is happening here.
You as a user send BTC to Mixer and they send clean coins to your BTC address. So, you have nothing with anYou seem to have not understood the best of what is happening here.
You as a user send BTC to Mixer and they send clean coins to your BTC address. So, you have nothing with any exchange.
In the background, Mixer will send your Bitcoin (as Mixero) to a decentralised exchange swap it for XMR, then send those XMR to the centralised exchange and swap XMR to BTC. That BTC can be called "clean" because it comes from a centralized exchange.

CEX (the most risky point of the whole process) cannot track XMR, so there is no reason to block funds. It seems like a good solution, now the only question is how much all the transactions will cost.y exchange.
In the background, Mixer will send your Bitcoin (as Mixero) to a decentralised exchange swap it for XMR, then send those XMR to the centralised exchange and swap XMR to BTC. That BTC can be called "clean" because it comes from a centralized exchange.

CEX (the most risky point of the whole process) cannot track XMR, so there is no reason to block funds. It seems like a good solution, now the only question is how much all the transactions will cost.
Man, I understood the whole thing what I was trying to say that the account that they use on centralized exchange for converting of XMR to BTC might get caught by the exchange as that happened with someone in past who swapped BTC to XMR via a decentralized exchange and then converted that XMR to BTC again but this time via a centralized exchange.

By keeping that I mind I asked that what if the centralized exchange somehow finds that account which is going to be used to convert XMR back to BTC and then withdraw it to Mixero's wallet? I mean the probability of centralized exchange to find it is very high because they will suspect that only XMR comes in and Bitcoin goes out then something if fishy. I think you also know that some exchanges might consider XRP to BTC transactions risky because they believe that if only XMR comes in and BTC goes out then something can be wrong.

Centralized exchanges will never be able to determine that these funds originate from our service, as previously explained, we utilize a completely empty intermediate wallet with no transaction history. Moreover, due to Monero's (XMR) design, it is impossible for the exchange to identify the existence of the source address. This means they do not know where the funds are coming from. Therefore, they cannot block the funds since they do not have access to the history and cannot trace the funds' history.

It is crucial to acknowledge that even though some centralized exchanges might use heuristic patterns to identify and block transactions they deem suspicious, we proactively ensure that this does not happen. We carefully select exchanges that do not employ such filtering based on specific patterns of incoming and outgoing transactions (for example, only XMR coming in and BTC going out). By doing so, we minimize the risk of our transactions being flagged as suspicious, thus ensuring a smoother and safer conversion process for our users from XMR to BTC.

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MINOR UPDATE :

We've added a new option to our advanced method called "Clean Coins". This option allows receiving funds from centralized exchanges, thus ensuring a relatively low AML score. The main difference without this option is the reliance on decentralized exchanges, where a low AML score for the funds is not always guaranteed. The mechanism for this new option is straightforward: your BTC is exchanged for XMR through a decentralized exchange, then the XMR is exchanged back to BTC via a centralized exchange. It's important to note that these centralized exchanges do have KYC/AML systems in place. However, it's impossible for any centralized exchange to verify the origin of XMR funds, which means these funds cannot be blocked.

After exchanging your BTC for XMR, we direct the funds through an intermediary wallet. This strategy ensures that the exchanges involved in the BTC to XMR and XMR back to BTC transactions remain unaware of this intermediary wallet, making it difficult for them to link any transaction details associated with this intermediary. Furthermore, due to Monero's built-in privacy features, exchanges are inherently unable to determine the source address of a Monero transaction. Our approach of using an intermediary wallet bolsters this privacy, offering an extra layer of security and anonymity in the transaction process.

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Hello, first of all we've just changed the input field and we've added a dark color in the background which should make the field quite visible.

The transaction fees are the same as before, and are described in our about page. We're going to add this information to the coinjoin page too, and we'll also add that we support Taproot addresses.

Finally, the random input option allows you to receive funds from multiple inputs.

Thanks for the fast response.
I am not sure about Taproot address support, since I got the message "Invalid address" when typing it in the address field.



Hello, we had to finalize a few technical elements on our side, but Taproot is now operational for our CoinJoin method and soon for our Advanced method (probably 1-2 days).

Edit: Our Advanced method now also supports Taproot addresses.

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Hello, we are pleased to announce that our new design is now available on our clearnet. The tor version should be updated in the coming hours.

Don't hesitate to give us your feedback.  ;)

I like the new design, attractive and yet quite simple. Quite comfortable to use. I don't want to go back to see if it was before, I'm interested in a couple of things.

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Transactions incur service fees ranging from 0.7% to 4.7%, plus miner fees

How much is the miner fee? It used to be 0.0003 per address, is that still the case? It should be emphasized somewhere

What is the "random input"? I see that he raised the fee by 0.4%-0.5%

You don't have support for taproot addresses?

The input field is the same colour as the background, a bit confusing. I would change the colour or add alt text.



Hello, first of all we've just changed the input field and we've added a dark color in the background which should make the field quite visible.

The transaction fees are the same as before, and are described in our about page. We're going to add this information to the coinjoin page too, and we'll also add that we support Taproot addresses.

Finally, the random input option allows you to receive funds from multiple inputs.

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@Mixero.io, I just went to your site to view the new UI but then I noticed something odd. I was able to proceed to the next step without having to input my destination address - if someone should make an error and proceed with making the deposit is there a way to add my destination address in the future? If No, then you should make the destination address mandatory before anyone can proceed to the next stage.

Thank you for your comment, it seems that there was indeed a problem and that it was possible to proceed without an address. The problem has been solved and everything is operational. ✅

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MAJOR UPDATE :

Hello, we are pleased to announce that our new design is now available on our clearnet. The tor version should be updated in the coming hours.

Don't hesitate to give us your feedback.  ;)

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