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Title: Member 20% (being watched) View Warning with Green Color??
Post by: kent47400 on January 26, 2024, 12:20:00 AM
This is the first time I've come across something like this on a forum, it's quite surprising.
Initially I was going to reply to a topic post in the "Cryptocurrency discussions" subforum, then in the last reply I discovered something new.
The name "Warning" usually has the color Red or Yellow, but this has the color Green.
After I checked the member's profile, it turned out that it said "20% (being watched)", what happened to that member? :o
Does this member have problems with various other members or have problems with the altcoinstalks forum?
Is it a member here who is not the first time to see this?
Do you know what that means?

-Last post from topic "Cryptocurrency discussions" subforum >>  https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=315042.msg1480527#msg1480527
-Profil this member >> https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=34348
Title: Re: Member 20% (being watched) View Warning with Green Color??
Post by: Cantsay on January 26, 2024, 01:53:53 AM
I believe I’ve seen it in a different user before but I didn’t pay much attention to it.


I did look through the profile of @pacar_tiri and I noticed something strange that could possibly have resulted in him receiving that warning.

If you look at his posting history you’ll notice that he makes up to 4 – 5 posts in less than 20 minutes, I’m not sure how that is possible but for you to actually get to a topic and go through it you’ve to spend atleast a few minutes thread but his last 5 posts were made within 5 minutes and that might be what lead to the warning.

I don’t know much about how several things work here but I believe his behavior can be classified as a spamming behavior – and most of the things he replies to some quotes are just off-topic.
Title: Re: Member 20% (being watched) View Warning with Green Color??
Post by: Jokers on January 26, 2024, 08:44:04 AM
Do you know what that means?

It means he got a registered warning from a moderator recently. This warning is kept in the account history even when the percentage goes to 0, so if he will break the rules again, it will be noticed. If he does not heed the warnings, more serious consequences may occur.
Title: Re: Member 20% (being watched) View Warning with Green Color??
Post by: damsix on January 26, 2024, 02:58:10 PM
For OP : Okay, I will archive your notes using screenshots, so that this can be a reference the next time a member asks something like this again on the altcoinstalks forum.
This screenshot from member last post with symbol "Watched" Green color.
(https://i.imgur.com/nz2ljWg.jpeg) (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=315042.msg1480527#msg1480527)

This screenshot from profil member
(https://i.imgur.com/xMoSlGB.jpeg) (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=34348)

This is your answer from President at November 26, 2020
(https://i.imgur.com/8rruWhR.jpeg) (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=180760.0)

He got the form of "Temporary Warnings" and the warning was still in the easy stage or at the beginning.
The calculation is very detailed and easy to understand like this:
-10% still has a chance to disappear quickly.
-30% started receiving warnings from various Moderators
-60% are more inclined to get various reprimands, such as -Karma etc
Title: Re: Member 20% (being watched) View Warning with Green Color??
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on January 26, 2024, 07:21:13 PM
Well, its actually the first time I am noticing that feature here, and thanks op for bringing up this thread, forum is indeed packed with lots of features, though most seem hidden, but I hope that as this place gets busier in the coming months and years, all the features will unpack themselves.

@cantsay, before reading the reason for the warning, I was going to say that if that user does make 4 or 5 posts under 5 minutes, I think cautioning and possibly sanctioning him or her is the job of his or her campaign manager, post-bursting I think has nothing to do with the forum as it does not break the rule of the forum, except I am wrong, I will happily accept correction.
Title: Re: Member 20% (being watched) View Warning with Green Color??
Post by: Jokers on January 26, 2024, 07:27:43 PM
@cantsay, before reading the reason for the warning, I was going to say that if that user does make 4 or 5 posts under 5 minutes, I think cautioning and possibly sanctioning him or her is the job of his or her campaign manager, post-bursting I think has nothing to do with the forum as it does not break the rule of the forum, except I am wrong, I will happily accept correction.

If it was the only thing, the frequency of posting is not a problem outside automated restrictions. You can post fast, it doesn't brake any rules. In this exact case you could see the reason for warning in this my post (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=316082.msg1480156#msg1480156). He used AI for his posts and this is a violation.
Title: Re: Member 20% (being watched) View Warning with Green Color??
Post by: Cantsay on January 26, 2024, 07:42:58 PM
You can post fast, it doesn't brake any rules.

Oh I see, I thought burst posting was something that’s being frowned upon here that was why I pointed it to the op as a possible cause of the warning.

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In this exact case you could see the reason for warning in this my post (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=316082.msg1480156#msg1480156). He used AI for his posts and this is a violation.

While going scanning through his profile – I noticed a post[1] at first I thought it was copied from somewhere but after scanning for plagiarism it gave a negative result but when checked if it was an AI generated post it came as a positive result.

[1] https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=257446.msg1479514#msg1479514
Title: Re: Member 20% (being watched) View Warning with Green Color??
Post by: Jokers on January 26, 2024, 07:51:00 PM
Oh I see, I thought burst posting was something that’s being frowned upon here that was why I pointed it to the op as a possible cause of the warning.

If the post is of low quality it can be a problem and lead to the warning, but if someone posts good posts fast I see no problem.

While going scanning through his profile – I noticed a post[1] at first I thought it was copied from somewhere but after scanning for plagiarism it gave a negative result but when checked if it was an AI generated post it came as a positive result.

[1] https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=257446.msg1479514#msg1479514

Right, and this post is in my section, so I'll delete it. +karma for help
Title: Re: Member 20% (being watched) View Warning with Green Color??
Post by: Learn Bitcoin on January 26, 2024, 08:02:42 PM
Okay. This is something interesting. But I wonder why it should be displayed to general users. Showing the warning to the moderators was enough to judge the user. Or maybe the admin want us to know which user violated the rules or not. But, this is not for people who have made a mistake but want to keep their account clean. 

I don't want to create another thread to ask a question. Since Jokers is here, I would like to ask what does it mean by 75% awesome and 100% awesome? How could we improve that?
Title: Re: Member 20% (being watched) View Warning with Green Color??
Post by: Jokers on January 26, 2024, 08:11:32 PM
Okay. This is something interesting. But I wonder why it should be displayed to general users. Showing the warning to the moderators was enough to judge the user. Or maybe the admin want us to know which user violated the rules or not. But, this is not for people who have made a mistake but want to keep their account clean. 

Moderators see more data about registered warnings. I guess, it is shown to others as a way to motivate the user to stay in the boundaries of rules: he should feel that community can see that he misbehaved.

I don't want to create another thread to ask a question. Since Jokers is here, I would like to ask what does it mean by 75% awesome and 100% awesome? How could we improve that?

It is just a badge connected with a rank. You can see the set of these badges here (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=14162.0). But for Mythical the picture is not updated and there's still no badge shown for Jedi Master rank.
Title: Re: Member 20% (being watched) View Warning with Green Color??
Post by: Learn Bitcoin on January 26, 2024, 08:24:29 PM
I guess, it is shown to others as a way to motivate the user to stay in the boundaries of rules: he should feel that community can see that he misbehaved.
I am not against the idea. But, as you may agree, everyone deserves a 2nd chance and this forum is too friendly as well. So, I don't know if it's a good idea to show others that I have violated the rules. But, In some cases, I feel like the banner could be deserved.

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It is just a badge connected with a rank. You can see the set of these badges here (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=14162.0). But for Mythical the picture is not updated and there's still no badge shown for Jedi Master rank.
Damn. How could I miss that? I was wondering why the percentage does not increase any more? I thought my posts were not good enough and I had to improve them more. But, I didn't notice that it is tied with my forum rank. Anyway, Got another weird random question: Do you know any other member who has more karma then you? I guess you are the most active staff who has earned that much karma. Even more then admin :)
Title: Re: Member 20% (being watched) View Warning with Green Color??
Post by: Jokers on January 26, 2024, 08:31:49 PM
I am not against the idea. But, as you may agree, everyone deserves a 2nd chance and this forum is too friendly as well. So, I don't know if it's a good idea to show others that I have violated the rules. But, In some cases, I feel like the banner could be deserved.

Warning percents are decreasing automatically, so if stop violating rules, soon the line will disappear. But if to continue, some constant badge can appear.

Anyway, Got another weird random question: Do you know any other member who has more karma then you? I guess you are the most active staff who has earned that much karma. Even more then admin :)

Yes, I know at least three ones (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=314511.0). ;D
Title: Re: Member 20% (being watched) View Warning with Green Color??
Post by: kent47400 on January 27, 2024, 03:25:43 PM
This is your answer from President at November 26, 2020
(https://i.imgur.com/8rruWhR.jpeg) (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=180760.0)

He got the form of "Temporary Warnings" and the warning was still in the easy stage or at the beginning.
The calculation is very detailed and easy to understand like this:
-10% still has a chance to disappear quickly.
-30% started receiving warnings from various Moderators
-60% are more inclined to get various reprimands, such as -Karma etc
Thread from dragon should be noted by my mind, because this thread in the next time it's exactly needed for me.
Agghhh okay, I've read about the topic, apparently it's been around for 4 years and I've gone through it but I've never read it.
With that 20% value, it looks like he will soon be forgiven for what he has done, because a 20% warning is no more than a 30% warning. :D
But If he continues to use AI to create posts or reply to quotes, it's likely he'll get bigger numbers for "Watched" and get warnings from various Moderator.

.In this exact case you could see the reason for warning in this my post (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=316082.msg1480156#msg1480156). He used AI for his posts and this is a violation.
Damnnn, yes, that's right, he doesn't look organic when writing replies to the topics he has created, that's very strange.
Hi Joker, how do you know who he is if he uses AI features to make replies to the topic?
Is there some kind of "tool" to check their writing using AI?
Title: Re: Member 20% (being watched) View Warning with Green Color??
Post by: Jokers on January 27, 2024, 03:33:49 PM
Damnnn, yes, that's right, he doesn't look organic when writing replies to the topics he has created, that's very strange.
Hi Joker, how do you know who he is if he uses AI features to make replies to the topic?
Is there some kind of "tool" to check their writing using AI?

Of course. First you see it by eyes and then you reaffirm your conclusions with reliable AI detectors. Among other things AI usually uses big parts of different texts from Internet, so not so rare it can be detected even as a regular plagiarism.
Title: Re: Member 20% (being watched) View Warning with Green Color??
Post by: Learn Bitcoin on January 27, 2024, 04:35:14 PM
Yes, I know at least three ones (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=314511.0). ;D

Unfortunately, I am limited or this thread is removed. I guess I do not have access to view this thread. May I know what could be the possible reason? Usually, we see such a warning on BitcoinTalk only if the threads get deleted. But, I guess you haven't referred me to a deleted thread  ;) The more time I am spending here, the more I am learning about this forum. Tons of sections, tons of badges, tons of ranks and many more that I haven't even noticed yet. How the hell Mr admin maintaining all these things? LOL.
Title: Re: Member 20% (being watched) View Warning with Green Color??
Post by: Cantsay on January 27, 2024, 04:46:44 PM
Yes, I know at least three ones (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=314511.0). ;D

Unfortunately, I am limited or this thread is removed. I guess I do not have access to view this thread. May I know what could be the possible reason? Usually, we see such a warning on BitcoinTalk only if the threads get deleted. But, I guess you haven't referred me to a deleted thread


It seems like it’s an error on your end - I accessed the thread when it was first shared by @jokers and I also checked to verify what you were referring to and it opened fine for me.

Perhaps try changing your browser or ISP - I don’t know but just try a different device.
Title: Re: Member 20% (being watched) View Warning with Green Color??
Post by: Learn Bitcoin on January 27, 2024, 04:51:18 PM
It seems like it’s an error on your end - I accessed the thread when it was first shared by @jokers and I also checked to verify what you were referring to and it opened fine for me.

Perhaps try changing your browser or ISP - I don’t know but just try a different device.

Nope. It's nothing with my internet. When I click on the link he shared, it shows like this;

(https://talkimg.com/images/2024/01/27/kyHZl.png).

As you can see, my internet is fine. I am accessing the forum and writing as well. The link he shared does not require me to exit the forum and visit any external link. It is the link of another thread of this forum and I am unable to access it. Probably only members with Hero Rank and above can access it. Maybe Jokers could confirm?
Title: Re: Member 20% (being watched) View Warning with Green Color??
Post by: Cantsay on January 27, 2024, 04:55:42 PM
[Maybe Jokers could confirm?

Okay I see the error now.

It’s a hero and legend lounge meaning you must have gotten to hero rank before you can access the board that’s why you can’t access the thread.

(https://talkimg.com/images/2024/01/27/kyZgm.jpeg)
Title: Re: Member 20% (being watched) View Warning with Green Color??
Post by: Jokers on January 27, 2024, 05:06:59 PM
Yes, I know at least three ones (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=314511.0). ;D

Unfortunately, I am limited or this thread is removed. I guess I do not have access to view this thread. May I know what could be the possible reason? Usually, we see such a warning on BitcoinTalk only if the threads get deleted. But, I guess you haven't referred me to a deleted thread  ;) The more time I am spending here, the more I am learning about this forum. Tons of sections, tons of badges, tons of ranks and many more that I haven't even noticed yet. How the hell Mr admin maintaining all these things? LOL.

Sorry, mea culpa. I forgot that Heroes & Legends Lounge is not visible for lower ranks (it's not so active and important section). I'll quote a part of a table from there so that my answer makes some sense.

User IDUsernamePositionActivityPointsKarma
______________________________________________________________________
2039heyod hewowMythical9755 (4.292 per day)718711463
11028BigpatPadawan11859 (5.323 per day)33831361
37266epidemiaPadawan10364 (5.269 per day)108941288
45030JokersMythical6937 (3.696 per day)325681080
33725alltalkLegendary3187 (1.564 per day)39627662
49623hair* President *8424 (4.639 per day)135156653
1adminAdministrator1820 (0.796 per day)36873650
34072Mbah JenggotLegendary1441 (0.710 per day)27142649
10092MrSpasyboPadawan14416 (6.427 per day)182612643
44979Malam90Mythical5873 (3.126 per day)83242595
78063Freemind* Vice President *8887 (7.879 per day)313760558

Let's summarize the results:
4 users have more than 1000+ karma.
15 users have more than 500+ karma.
166 users have more than 100+ karma.
293 users have more than 50+ karma. (not included in the table)
818 users have more than 10+ karma. (not included in the table)
Title: Re: Member 20% (being watched) View Warning with Green Color??
Post by: kent47400 on January 28, 2024, 02:46:54 AM
Of course. First you see it by eyes and then you reaffirm your conclusions with reliable AI detectors. Among other things AI usually uses big parts of different texts from Internet, so not so rare it can be detected even as a regular plagiarism.
Yep, here's the problem for me, I'm not good at distinguishing between posts using AI and original ones made by members.
It requires super strong accuracy and has a strong instinct for difference because this definitely requires high intelligence, very different from the intelligence of ordinary members.
I appreciate your work Joker, you are a Legendary member who has many advantages, starting from Bounty Manager, Trusted Escrow, providing assistance in various subforums and even being able to detect posts that use AI, Joker is extraordinary!
Title: Re: Member 20% (being watched) View Warning with Green Color??
Post by: Learn Bitcoin on January 28, 2024, 05:53:06 PM
Sorry, mea culpa. I forgot that Heroes & Legends Lounge is not visible for lower ranks (it's not so active and important section). I'll quote a part of a table from there so that my answer makes some sense.

Thanks for the table buddy. But, I haven't seen the top three yet. I haven't met them in any section that I usually visit. But, wherever I go, I see Jokers everywhere. You are working like a superhero here. It's no mystery how I have managed to earn that much karma. I see your karma has grown much since the last month. Probably you have increased your activity further after you won the best mod award. Anyway, we are going a little off-topic now.