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Crypto Discussion Forum => Forum related => Topic started by: sugarchrisp on June 20, 2018, 10:36:51 PM
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I assume that people aren't supposed to blatantly plagiarize things here, but I figured I'd ask because I see a lot of people clearly just copy pasting entire articles section by section from websites like Investopedia. I don't think it's a terrible thing that people are doing this, but it sort of encourages a spammy approach to raising your rank. One of the alt coin forums has 40 posts all from the same guy and every single post is another section of Investopedia, it's kinda hilarious honestly. It's one thing to share information, especially if you cite your sources, so that lots more people can learn about each coin. I just think there needs to be a line drawn somewhere, and forgive me if the policy is already laid out somewhere I tried looking but couldn't find anything definitive.
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I assume that people aren't supposed to blatantly plagiarize things here, but I figured I'd ask because I see a lot of people clearly just copy pasting entire articles section by section from websites like Investopedia. I don't think it's a terrible thing that people are doing this, but it sort of encourages a spammy approach to raising your rank. One of the alt coin forums has 40 posts all from the same guy and every single post is another section of Investopedia, it's kinda hilarious honestly. It's one thing to share information, especially if you cite your sources, so that lots more people can learn about each coin. I just think there needs to be a line drawn somewhere, and forgive me if the policy is already laid out somewhere I tried looking but couldn't find anything definitive.
We do not have a penalty against plagiarism,
we do advise users to always include a link to the original content,
but compared with the other kind of spam, and low quality posts, plagiarism is not even on our radar.
maybe in the future we will implement a penalty for that, but for now, we don't have any, it would be simply too much work to verify.
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Good to know,
I assume that people aren't supposed to blatantly plagiarize things here, but I figured I'd ask because I see a lot of people clearly just copy pasting entire articles section by section from websites like Investopedia. I don't think it's a terrible thing that people are doing this, but it sort of encourages a spammy approach to raising your rank. One of the alt coin forums has 40 posts all from the same guy and every single post is another section of Investopedia, it's kinda hilarious honestly. It's one thing to share information, especially if you cite your sources, so that lots more people can learn about each coin. I just think there needs to be a line drawn somewhere, and forgive me if the policy is already laid out somewhere I tried looking but couldn't find anything definitive.
We do not have a penalty against plagiarism,
we do advise users to always include a link to the original content,
but compared with the other kind of spam, and low quality posts, plagiarism is not even on our radar.
maybe in the future we will implement a penalty for that, but for now, we don't have any, it would be simply too much work to verify.
Good to know... I thought for sure there would be a penalty but I guess it makes sense because it can and often is helpful.... I really wish people would cite the sources at least though so if we wanted follow up information we would know where to look.
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I assume that people aren't supposed to blatantly plagiarize things here, but I figured I'd ask because I see a lot of people clearly just copy pasting entire articles section by section from websites like Investopedia. I don't think it's a terrible thing that people are doing this, but it sort of encourages a spammy approach to raising your rank. One of the alt coin forums has 40 posts all from the same guy and every single post is another section of Investopedia, it's kinda hilarious honestly. It's one thing to share information, especially if you cite your sources, so that lots more people can learn about each coin. I just think there needs to be a line drawn somewhere, and forgive me if the policy is already laid out somewhere I tried looking but couldn't find anything definitive.
We do not have a penalty against plagiarism,
we do advise users to always include a link to the original content,
but compared with the other kind of spam, and low quality posts, plagiarism is not even on our radar.
maybe in the future we will implement a penalty for that, but for now, we don't have any, it would be simply too much work to verify.
Alright great that's good to know. It'll be nice to bring articles to people's attention without fear of severe reprimand. <3
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Good to know, I assume that people aren't supposed to blatantly plagiarize things here, but I figured I'd ask because I see a lot of people clearly just copy pasting entire articles section by section from websites like Investopedia. I don't think it's a terrible thing that people are doing this, but it sort of encourages a spammy approach to raising your rank. One of the alt coin forums has 40 posts all from the same guy and every single post is another section of Investopedia, it's kinda hilarious honestly. It's one thing to share information, especially if you cite your sources, so that lots more people can learn about each coin. I just think there needs to be a line drawn somewhere, and forgive me if the policy is already laid out somewhere I tried looking but couldn't find anything definitive.
We do not have a penalty against plagiarism,
we do advise users to always include a link to the original content,
but compared with the other kind of spam, and low quality posts, plagiarism is not even on our radar.
maybe in the future we will implement a penalty for that, but for now, we don't have any, it would be simply too much work to verify.
Good to know... I thought for sure there would be a penalty but I guess it makes sense because it can and often is helpful.... I really wish people would cite the sources at least though so if we wanted follow up information we would know where to look.
I was 100% sure that there is a ban for plagiarism. Ok not ban but some penalty for sure, like -1 karma or even a warning.
Mixed fillings with this rule but I understand that Altcoinstalks is a young forum. Need more posts and members everyday to rank up among many other crypto related forums. It would be great great to have all subs full of quality content and discussions but we all see what is happening on our forum. That is why I fully trust our Admin and understand his decisions.
From other site. This isn't so hard to put a link under your copy and pasted text. If member was able to copy and paste entire article then he probably can do the same with the link and add a word "source". He doesn't because he is leazy or he wants to let people think, this is his work. That is stealing and should be penalised. We should be doing all we can to grow but I don't think everything should be allowed. Personally I don't know any other forum which allow plagiarism.
In the end we will be there, but in what style we got there it will also be important.
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Good to know, I assume that people aren't supposed to blatantly plagiarize things here, but I figured I'd ask because I see a lot of people clearly just copy pasting entire articles section by section from websites like Investopedia. I don't think it's a terrible thing that people are doing this, but it sort of encourages a spammy approach to raising your rank. One of the alt coin forums has 40 posts all from the same guy and every single post is another section of Investopedia, it's kinda hilarious honestly. It's one thing to share information, especially if you cite your sources, so that lots more people can learn about each coin. I just think there needs to be a line drawn somewhere, and forgive me if the policy is already laid out somewhere I tried looking but couldn't find anything definitive.
We do not have a penalty against plagiarism,
we do advise users to always include a link to the original content,
but compared with the other kind of spam, and low quality posts, plagiarism is not even on our radar.
maybe in the future we will implement a penalty for that, but for now, we don't have any, it would be simply too much work to verify.
Good to know... I thought for sure there would be a penalty but I guess it makes sense because it can and often is helpful.... I really wish people would cite the sources at least though so if we wanted follow up information we would know where to look.
I was 100% sure that there is a ban for plagiarism. Ok not ban but some penalty for sure, like -1 karma or even a warning.
Mixed fillings with this rule but I understand that Altcoinstalks is a young forum and need more and more, posts and members everyday to rank up among many other crypto related forums. It would be great great to have all subs full of quality content and discussions but we all see what is happening on our forum. That is why I fully trust our Admin and understand his decisions.
From other site. This isn't so hard to put a link under your copy and pasted text. If member was able to copy and paste entire article then he probably can do the same with the link and add word "source". He doesn't because he is leasy or he wants to let people think that this is his work. That is stealing and should be penalised. We should be doing all we can to grow but I don't think everything should be allowed. Personally I don't know any other forum which allow plagiarism.
In the end we will be there, but in what style we got there it will also be important.
Right. Plagiarism should be punished, if the forum want to become gracious I think atleast -1 karma is enough. I understand too that this forum is new but If there is something that we can do to stop any kind of practices that can damage the image of this forum, then this is reasonable enough to implement something than let something exists in here which can put down the reputation of this forum. Better to build this forum with good image as early as possible while it is still new. Otherwise the problem will grow and hard to stop.
Atleast in every implementation knowledge comes to the management that can makes the leadership for this forum better.
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Good to know, I assume that people aren't supposed to blatantly plagiarize things here, but I figured I'd ask because I see a lot of people clearly just copy pasting entire articles section by section from websites like Investopedia. I don't think it's a terrible thing that people are doing this, but it sort of encourages a spammy approach to raising your rank. One of the alt coin forums has 40 posts all from the same guy and every single post is another section of Investopedia, it's kinda hilarious honestly. It's one thing to share information, especially if you cite your sources, so that lots more people can learn about each coin. I just think there needs to be a line drawn somewhere, and forgive me if the policy is already laid out somewhere I tried looking but couldn't find anything definitive.
We do not have a penalty against plagiarism,
we do advise users to always include a link to the original content,
but compared with the other kind of spam, and low quality posts, plagiarism is not even on our radar.
maybe in the future we will implement a penalty for that, but for now, we don't have any, it would be simply too much work to verify.
Good to know... I thought for sure there would be a penalty but I guess it makes sense because it can and often is helpful.... I really wish people would cite the sources at least though so if we wanted follow up information we would know where to look.
I was 100% sure that there is a ban for plagiarism. Ok not ban but some penalty for sure, like -1 karma or even a warning.
Mixed fillings with this rule but I understand that Altcoinstalks is a young forum and need more and more, posts and members everyday to rank up among many other crypto related forums. It would be great great to have all subs full of quality content and discussions but we all see what is happening on our forum. That is why I fully trust our Admin and understand his decisions.
From other site. This isn't so hard to put a link under your copy and pasted text. If member was able to copy and paste entire article then he probably can do the same with the link and add word "source". He doesn't because he is leasy or he wants to let people think that this is his work. That is stealing and should be penalised. We should be doing all we can to grow but I don't think everything should be allowed. Personally I don't know any other forum which allow plagiarism.
In the end we will be there, but in what style we got there it will also be important.
Right. Plagiarism should be punished, if the forum want to become gracious I think atleast -1 karma is enough. I understand too that this forum is new but If there is something that we can do to stop any kind of practices that can damage the image of this forum, then this is reasonable enough to implement something than let something exists in here which can put down the reputation of this forum. Better to build this forum with good image as early as possible while it is still new. Otherwise the problem will grow and hard to stop.
Atleast in every implementation knowledge comes to the management that can makes the leadership for this forum better.
I think ultimately they will probably not allow people to directly rip articles from other websites, but he said right now there are just other priorities. I wouldn't be too concerned about it in the immediate future but down the line perhaps it can be revisited to some degree. I don't think it should stay like this forever, but it's a fairly minor evil at this point.
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I read a lot of plagiarism. (This one is also plagiarize.)
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I think plagiarism is rampant in any forum with the same topic, but we can not directly accuse the person of plagiarism, maybe he wants to share the same knowledge in different forums.
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I read a lot of plagiarism. (This one is also plagiarize.)
Did you mean op plagiarized this topic?
I think not, the concern really interesting to make altcoinstalks great in few months from now. Well, the right time of altcoinstalks great will sooner be recognized once the marketing flows good.
Plagiarism is a serious case but because this forum is just on the first step to go forward, everyone's freedom that does not bounded in the rules can exercise but should not abuse.
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Most if not all platforms discourage plagiarism of course but it all depends on the admin and moderators. In Steemit, there are specific users who do check plagiarized articles, they give downvotes. Some had even created bots for it and of course, there are cases of being abused by this.
It would be great if plagiarism will be taken cared of as well because while it can be a helpful information, it is still considered stealing somebody else's work.
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I think it's mostly been decided that it's fine to plagiarize here, but I definitely think it should be kept to a minimum personally. People should also cite whatever sources they used if they're going to cut and paste entire articles, and maybe make sure the formatting is alright for the forums as well. But still, definitely only in moderation.
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It seems that we all like this forum. That's why we are trying to avoid plagiarism.
Yes, of course plagiarism is a great crime. But there are two stage of plagiarism :
1.Directly copy paste without any great reason. Also no source included of the content.(100% plagiarism and punishable)
2. Directly copy paste of Important and educational content from a source with some personal opinion.Also included the source link..(Great work) though 70% plagiarism.
I support stage no 2 because it has several benifits for our forum.Those are:
- It will be good for SEO.( popular content of other site might bring traffic to our forum now which will be good for our forum at this stage)
- We could know about other popular or potential site.
- Will be helpfull for our new forum members to know more.
Now, it is also our duty to support the forum and keep it plagiarism free.
Thanks
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Even if its not against the rules of the forum, I'd still like people to source everything.. it's just good etiquette and gives people further information if they like the content, etc.
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I assume that people aren't supposed to blatantly plagiarize things here, but I figured I'd ask because I see a lot of people clearly just copy pasting entire articles section by section from websites like Investopedia. I don't think it's a terrible thing that people are doing this, but it sort of encourages a spammy approach to raising your rank. One of the alt coin forums has 40 posts all from the same guy and every single post is another section of Investopedia, it's kinda hilarious honestly. It's one thing to share information, especially if you cite your sources, so that lots more people can learn about each coin. I just think there needs to be a line drawn somewhere, and forgive me if the policy is already laid out somewhere I tried looking but couldn't find anything definitive.
We do not have a penalty against plagiarism,
we do advise users to always include a link to the original content,
but compared with the other kind of spam, and low quality posts, plagiarism is not even on our radar.
maybe in the future we will implement a penalty for that, but for now, we don't have any, it would be simply too much work to verify.
The idea of planning to have rules against plagiarism is good to know but knowing that it will happen in the future destroys the possible benefits compare to what it can be if it Will be done as early as possible. Because if plagiarism will be tolerated for the long period of time it will encourage to other members to do the same thing and this thing can also give a reason to the potential investors to hold back. I am not being rude here,I am just saying the possible outcome and for the good of this forum
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well of course plagiarism is not a good thing, it is kind of a stealing.
just a second ago, I read the last 3 threads of the a member, which were exactly copied and pasted from btt - different members' threads on btt -
I am not sure if we should be giving these people - karma or not?
I would say if this member was the same member on the other forum, yes it is his/her work and writing so why not? maybe he/she just wants to share opinions more on ATT. However because the threads belong to different members on the other forum, I feel like this member can be doing this only to increase post count.
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well of course plagiarism is not a good thing, it is kind of a stealing.
just a second ago, I read the last 3 threads of the a member, which were exactly copied and pasted from btt - different members' threads on btt -
I am not sure if we should be giving these people - karma or not?
I would say if this member was the same member on the other forum, yes it is his/her work and writing so why not? maybe he/she just wants to share opinions more on ATT. However because the threads belong to different members on the other forum, I feel like this member can be doing this only to increase post count.
I am putting a complain filing method:
1- if you see any post plagiarized from btt , pm the btt member
2- only the said member can contest,
3- he can create an account on altt with same name as on his btt, he will verify that with a small step.
4- then he posts a reply to the plagiarized topic, with this text " contesting plagiarism", then he reports the topic and provide link to his original post
then he will be contacted by me or someone else with options to consider
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well of course plagiarism is not a good thing, it is kind of a stealing.
just a second ago, I read the last 3 threads of the a member, which were exactly copied and pasted from btt - different members' threads on btt -
I am not sure if we should be giving these people - karma or not?
I would say if this member was the same member on the other forum, yes it is his/her work and writing so why not? maybe he/she just wants to share opinions more on ATT. However because the threads belong to different members on the other forum, I feel like this member can be doing this only to increase post count.
I am putting a complain filing method:
1- if you see any post plagiarized from btt , pm the btt member
2- only the said member can contest,
3- he can create an account on altt with same name as on his btt, he will verify that with a small step.
4- then he posts a reply to the plagiarized topic, with this text " contesting plagiarism", then he reports the topic and provide link to his original post
then he will be contacted by me or someone else with options to consider
I like this complain filling method. Is a clever way to fight plagiarism and increase members amount in AltcoinsTalks. Great move, Admin.
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As for now plagiarism is not yet prohibited as we are on the process of improving this forum. I do believe in just a year or maybe a couple of years this forum will goes to strictly the unnecessary things.
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well of course plagiarism is not a good thing, it is kind of a stealing.
just a second ago, I read the last 3 threads of the a member, which were exactly copied and pasted from btt - different members' threads on btt -
I am not sure if we should be giving these people - karma or not?
I would say if this member was the same member on the other forum, yes it is his/her work and writing so why not? maybe he/she just wants to share opinions more on ATT. However because the threads belong to different members on the other forum, I feel like this member can be doing this only to increase post count.
I am putting a complain filing method:
1- if you see any post plagiarized from btt , pm the btt member
2- only the said member can contest,
3- he can create an account on altt with same name as on his btt, he will verify that with a small step.
4- then he posts a reply to the plagiarized topic, with this text " contesting plagiarism", then he reports the topic and provide link to his original post
then he will be contacted by me or someone else with options to consider
Thank you for making an action to this, admin! It is evident that our admins here are really listening to the members.