icopress said they've spent six figures on ads that isn't done by companies planning a scam exit. I've known UniJoin from sig campaigns before I've teleported they aren't scammers. They've always had a good rep.

UniJoin don't operate like they've planned a scam exit so there aren't reasons to stop trusting them.

Especially since I have 2 letters of guarantee that I downloaded over the last week (accordingly, I used UniJoin twice). And all the information, including the key, matches what is indicated on the site.

Moreover, I know for a fact that over the last year UniJoin has spent six figures on advertising, so what you are talking about makes no sense. In any case, I notified UniJoin.

• I've been making a number of mixes on this service for about 1 week or longer
• First of course I checked their public key but then I stopped looking at the key as the whole series of mixes completed successfully and all this happened in one session in the Tor browser
• I didn't see my btc after the last mix
• I updated the order page. The order was deleted (before that it was successfully displayed)
• I tried to find support contacts. The only way to communicate is chat. To contact them regarding mix issue you need to upload a letter of guarantee. My last letter did not pass their verification.
• I started checking all letters. Early letters had the correct key which is listed on their website. The last 3 letters already had a different key. That is 2 mixes with a fake key completed successfully and on the third mix with a fake key I did not see my mixed btc.
• I created test mix. The key for it was already correct. Let me remind you that I did not leave their service during this entire time; all this happened during one browser session.
• I tried contacting support in their chat for general issues that do not require a letter of guarantee.

• I edited the mix amount because it's quite large and I think it's easy to track. It's not even 10 or 15 btc. In any case I gave the original address in the support chat. I don't think anyone other than chat support should deal with this address. I also indicated a + sign at the end of the amount. This means that the amount can be any higher than this value.
• I provided them with Letters of Guarantee in the form of a link to the well-known and legitimate service privnote.com because their chat prohibits the use of special characters like # ' " ? etc and also does not allow you to write messages longer than 1000 characters.
• I wrote that I did not demand a refund only after they refused to do anything. I thought it would motivate them to do something to solve the problem. Obviously this was actually a failed attempt. Also this phrase caused a wave of skepticism on the forum so I showed the seriousness of the situation by making a donation to the official forum wallet.

• I did not leave the correct URL unijoinxaogdzmk3bonngoxxoaezkmsfdyrtfyximisungh2dnc2azad [.] onion
• A series of successful mixes were carried out
• At some point they changed their public key
• There were 2 successful mixes with a fake public key
• In the third mix with a fake key they simply stole my btc and deleted the orderId
• And again I did not leave the correct URL, all this happened during the same browser session
• After the money was not returned I created a test mix where their key was already correct.

Hello! Is it your actual pgp key?
-----BEGIN PUBLIC KEY-----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-----END PUBLIC KEY-----

Support Agent, 4 days ago
Hello *, Thank you for your contact request. A member of the support team will deal with your request as soon as possible. You should receive an answer within the next 24 hours. Thank you for using our service.

You, 4 days ago
Either I was scammed or you replaced the key

You, 4 days ago
order key *, deposit address *, still didnt receive my btc and the letter of guarantee cannot pass verification

Support Agent, 3 days ago
you can find the key in the footer of the page, it does never change

Support Agent, 3 days ago
unijoinxaogdzmk3bonngoxxoaezkmsfdyrtfyximisungh2dnc2azad [.] onion/en/download-public-key

Support Agent, 3 days ago
unijoin [.] io/en/download-public-key

Support Agent, 3 days ago
The above key is not the same as our official PGP. The PGP does not change and is also in public places stored to ensure that it is always the same.

Support Agent, 3 days ago
If the system does not accept the letter of guarantee then there is something wrong with the PGP or the format of the file.

You, 3 days ago
How could the key be replaced? I am 1000% sure that the site address was correct since I did not leave it after previous successful mixes.

You, 3 days ago
Could you still check if order * was in your system?

You, 3 days ago
I did several mixes. Checked them: ... correct key, success - correct key, success - fake key, success - fake key, success - fake key, not success - and now again correct key. I did not leave your correct site address during all the mixes.

You, 3 days ago
for example succesful order with fake key - *

You, 3 days ago
and successful order with correct key - *

You, 3 days ago
I havent left unijoinxaogdzmk3bonngoxxoaezkmsfdyrtfyximisungh2dnc2azad [.] onion in between

You, 3 days ago
Could your site have been hacked?

Support Agent, 3 days ago
We would really like to check the past orders for you. But we keep order information inside the system only as long as needed. If an order is completed then we will remove all information from the database which were needed to complete the order. Then there is only one way to check the order with the letter itself.

Support Agent, 3 days ago
The PGP key is for all users the same and for all orders the same since it is also uploaded on the project itself. There is no option that someone has changed the order for you since the letter will be required for that.

Support Agent, 3 days ago
Have you maybe used two different coinjoin websites to complete the orders? Does someone has access to your machine? Have you been on a pishing site? Lately there are a lot of unreal fake duplication of UniJoin. But even when customer encounter issues with a phishing site we have never encountered that kind of issue and the servers did not had any maintenance or attack.

You, 3 days ago
No. Always had the correct web address. I repeat that I did not leave your web address, and there were several successful mixes before. Also, there are no infections or access to my machine, otherwise the rest of my funds would be lost. Im not asking you to return the money, but would you like to at least try to understand what happened. In fact, the user created an order on your mixer, the mixers web address was correct, not phishing, your system generated a letter of guarantee, then the money did not arrive to the user, and the user saw that the letter generated by your mixer contained a different key.

You, 3 days ago
privnote [.] com/* - Letter of guarantee with fake key

You, 3 days ago
and more - Letter of Guarantee with fake key and SUCCESSFUL previous mix generated by your mixer - privnote [.] com/*

You, 3 days ago
In the previous successful mix with a fake key, the amount was even greater than in the unsuccessful one. It is very strange

You, 3 days ago
Maybe you have some kind of insider who based on my member code decided to steal this money?

Support Agent, 3 days ago
The way how you describe the process is very strange especially since you had several exchanges done. We also try to protect our self and the access to the funds is limits by people who are responsible for the uptime of the system itself. The member code itself is only used to assign you to a different mixing pool every order. Also we are always trying to verify what the customer says since we had frequent issues about people who sent coins to phishing websites and then contact our support to ask why the order did not pass although it did not took place on our website. We are not allowed to open only links outside of this chat for security reasons therefore I can not open your links to privnote [.] com

Support Agent, 3 days ago
Also you say that you have tested and created an order and that the key is really the correct key of the official page. That makes me wonder in which area the mistake happened and from which side.

Support Agent, 3 days ago
Since this never happened before we would just make sure to have an eye on that, if there is any other customer in the future reporting the same or a similar issue. You really need to make sure that the order is places on the official website / onion and that you download the letter of guarantee. Expert users then even compare the PGP to see if the value is correct or they were imposed. It can also be possible that someone inside the local network has reserved the hostname locally and you never request a domain outside the network.

Support Agent, 3 days ago
Feel free to ask us any questions at any time. In case there is anything I can help you with, just let me know. Also if there is any pending order in the future we could then check it real time if you put the waiting time high enough. It is also recommended to have a high waiting time for mixing orders with greater amounts, since the coins will be mixed in a better way when you leave them for a longer time in the conjoins. In any way if there is a pending order we can check in real time if everything is correct as it should be. But it is always expect when the system is in maintenance.

Quote from: jessuni on February 15, 2024, 10:36:39 AM

Their chat does not allow inserting attachments, various symbols like # ? " { } as well as messages longer than 1000 characters. Thus I could not insert the Letter of Guarantee text. The first thing that came to mind was to insert the Letter of Guarantee texts into a private note. This is a legitimate service and a legitimate domain if you didn’t know

Are you dumb or what?
I only told you that privnote has many fake domains recently, so it is clear that I know what real privnote is.
You are changing amount of bitcoins all the time, maybe you will lose 25 tomorrow, so your story is full of holes 

Quote from: examplens on February 15, 2024, 10:50:06 AM

We definitely have to wait for an official response from Unijoin. As far as I can see, their Clearnet and Tor site are currently offline. There may be a problem here.

I agree.
I dont know why they didnt create account here already.

Quote from: examplens on February 15, 2024, 12:46:37 AM

In addition to the lack of information, it increases my suspicion because user @jessuni changed the subject of this thread to "scammed 15+ bitcoins", while in the post itself, that amount was reduced to 10+ btc. 5 BTC is not such an insignificant number that you can easily lose it in a discussion.

I still find it strange that during his conversaion with the customer support agent he stated that he`s not asking Unijoin to return the coin (quoted below) - this is not something you would hear from someone who`s to have lost 10+ [BTC], even 0.1[btc] wouldn`t get that kind of reply unless the person is extremely rich.

Quote from: jessuni on February 14, 2024, 10:05:22 PM

~~~
 Im not asking you to return the money, but would you like to at least try to understand what happened.
~~~

Quote from: jessuni on February 14, 2024, 10:05:22 PM

Scammed by UniJoin for 10+ btc

Cna you explain why did you use Privnote website?
I saw in bitcointalk scam accusation there are fake phishing privnote websites that are changing addresses and stealing coins from people.

It would be best to hear Unijoin side of story before making any conclusions, but they are live since 2022 and I never heard something like this happening.