Trezor wallet : breach exposes data of 60,000+ customers

[NikeFit_7777]

I think crupto community is too harsh with companies. Ledger faced a similar problem in the past, and now every comment about ledger is negative in reddit, btt  etc..
I don't agree  with that/ I own a ledger and I like it. I don't support the recovery tool about sending the seed online, but luckily it is not available in my device.
Ledger has way more functionality. Supports every altcoin out there, and it is very safe to use.

What they are doing is unacceptable in my opinion. Which existing cold wallets have done something like this? The answer is obvious, no. After reading the reviews about Trezor wallet, changed my opinion completely. Good thing I didn't waste no time/no money to order Leadger. Get it right, if Trezor made a similar feature tomorrow - people would also write solid negativity etc. No one needs it and no one wants to pass on their seed phrase to outsiders.

P.S. In general, the choice of such a device, the matter is individual to each user. Have you used a Trezor wallet? If not, check out the video on YouTube. 

[Don Pedro Dinero]

I think crupto community is too harsh with companies.
Ledger faced a similar problem in the past, and now every comment about ledger is negative in reddit, btt  etc..

I don't agree  with that
I own a ledger and I like it. I don't support the recovery tool about sending the seed online, but luckily it is not available in my device.

Too harsh? Ledger has more than earned the bad reputation it has today, and if it has not lost more customers it is because it is still living off the reputation it gained back when there was practically only Ledger and Trezor. Ledger has had several security breaches, so if people don't care about their privacy at all and want their data to end up in the hands of hackers the best thing to do for them is to have a Ledger.

[Husna QA]

I think crupto community is too harsh with companies.
Ledger faced a similar problem in the past, and now every comment about ledger is negative in reddit, btt  etc..

I don't agree  with that
I own a ledger and I like it. I don't support the recovery tool about sending the seed online, but luckily it is not available in my device.

Too harsh? Ledger has more than earned the bad reputation it has today, and if it has not lost more customers it is because it is still living off the reputation it gained back when there was practically only Ledger and Trezor. Ledger has had several security breaches, so if people don't care about their privacy at all and want their data to end up in the hands of hackers the best thing to do for them is to have a Ledger.

The more popular a product is, in this case, a hardware wallet, the more hackers are likely to target it or the manufacturer.

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/trezor-support-site-breach-exposes-personal-data-of-66-000-customers/
https://www.coindesk.com/markets/2020/07/29/crypto-wallet-maker-ledger-loses-1m-email-addresses-in-data-theft/

If you don't believe in hardware wallets, If you do not trust hardware wallets, don't use them, whether it's Ledger, Trezor, Coldcard or others.

The debate about choosing the most secure hardware wallet can be endless because each has advantages and disadvantages.

[bitmover]

If you don't believe in hardware wallets, don't use them, whether it's Ledger, Trezor, Coldcard or others.

The debate about choosing the most secure hardware wallet can be endless because each has advantages and disadvantages.

I think it makes little sense to "not believe"  in hardware wallets.

They are all very safe, specially the most popular ones. I never seen someone being hacked using the properly.

[dkbit98]

If you don't believe in hardware wallets, don't use them, whether it's Ledger, Trezor, Coldcard or others.

Hardware Wallets should not be considered as religion, so nobody has to believe or not believe in them.
It's just a miniature size device dedicated only for cryptocurrency use.

They are all very safe, specially the most popular ones. I never seen someone being hacked using the properly.

They are not all safe.
I have been researching hardware wallets for years, and many of them had security flaws, especially popular devices.

[Husna QA]

I think it makes little sense to "not believe"  in hardware wallets.

They are all very safe, specially the most popular ones. I never seen someone being hacked using the properly.

Hardware Wallets should not be considered as religion, so nobody has to believe or not believe in them.
It's just a miniature size device dedicated only for cryptocurrency use.

I didn't mean to use "believe" words with religious beliefs. I'm sorry if the placement of the word was inappropriate and caused misinterpretation. What I meant was, "If you do not trust hardware wallets ..."

They are all very safe, specially the most popular ones. I never seen someone being hacked using the properly.

They are not all safe.
I have been researching hardware wallets for years, and many of them had security flaws, especially popular devices.

So, does that mean more non-popular hardware wallets have better security than popular devices?

[Mr. Magkaisa]

          -   It seems like that incident is not acceptable, imagine a hardware wallet had such an issue. Maybe after those events, many of their users shifted to other hardwallets. Because I ordered a hardware wallet which I ordered is a Secux wallet.

But trezor was my firt choice before, so I changed my mind and I saw that secux is better in my research. Just be careful with the hardware wallets we choose.

[paid2]

          -   It seems like that incident is not acceptable, imagine a hardware wallet had such an issue. Maybe after those events, many of their users shifted to other hardwallets. Because I ordered a hardware wallet which I ordered is a Secux wallet.

But trezor was my firt choice before, so I changed my mind and I saw that secux is better in my research. Just be careful with the hardware wallets we choose.

I am curious as I don't really know much about SecuX, why do you think it is better than Trezor?
I don't know it in detail, but I thought (not sure) it was closed-source (which is a big no-no for me), but I am always curious to know more about new HW.

Coming back to Trezor, the hack that is the subject of this topic does not directly compromise the security of users' funds, and personally it hasn't deterred me from using a Trezor. But I understand your point of view.

[bitmover]

They are all very safe, specially the most popular ones. I never seen someone being hacked using the properly.

They are not all safe.
I have been researching hardware wallets for years, and many of them had security flaws, especially popular devices.

Your personal data is not safe. But your crypto is lol

I think that is the most important.

Anyway, we can always protect your personal data.  That is up to us to use VPN, ignore ledger live, etc etc..

[paid2]

Your personal data is not safe. But your crypto is lol

I think that is the most important.

Anyway, we can always protect your personal data.  That is up to us to use VPN, ignore ledger live, etc etc..

Yeah but if you use a VPN, you have to chose carefully your VPN provider. I would avoid NordVPN for example, same with lot of others which are collaborating with 3 letters agencies...

[bitmover]

Your personal data is not safe. But your crypto is lol

I think that is the most important.

Anyway, we can always protect your personal data.  That is up to us to use VPN, ignore ledger live, etc etc..

Yeah but if you use a VPN, you have to chose carefully your VPN provider. I would avoid NordVPN for example, same with lot of others which are collaborating with 3 letters agencies...

I agree.
I use proton vpn.  I think it is a great company committed with privacy.
https://protonvpn.com/blackfriday/

[paid2]

I agree.
I use proton vpn.  I think it is a great company committed with privacy.
https://protonvpn.com/blackfriday/

Yeah Proton and Mullvad are both the most trusted providers for now, if I am not wrong? Good choice imo

[Lucius]

I agree.
I use proton vpn.  I think it is a great company committed with privacy.

If I'm not mistaken, even they are not resistant to requests coming from powerful security agencies, and I think it was mentioned in some discussions on BTT. Privacy goes up to a certain limit when it actually ceases to exist, which means that if "they" ask for access to your e-mail for "justified" reasons, there is no doubt that they will get it.


As for companies like Trezor or Ledger, what can we say about someone who should be 100% focused on the privacy of their clients, and on the other hand hires "amateurs" who keep their clients' data and allow it to be hacked? I simply lose trust in such companies, because if it happened to them once, it will surely happen again.

[dkbit98]

Your personal data is not safe. But your crypto is lol

That can be debated also, especially with ledger wallet that can export seed words to third parties.
I would not worry so much about trezor devices, they are the first original hardware wallet and they are reliable if used correctly.
Human errors and phishing attacks are something else and they are going to keep happening.