You have received -1 Negative Karma

[Peter90]

Agree with bitmover,
however, there is a priority in things that are being done,
karma on posts, is among the things that i will try to make happen.

Hi Admin
+/- karmas on posts = poison

Users posting what they think will get the most karmas,
Users posting it in the way they think it’ll get most karmas,
Users avoiding posting something out of fear of landing in the crosshair of downvoting trolls

- 1 to her post because yesterday she contradicted me in a way I didn’t like.
- 1 to his post because I don’t like him.
+1 karma to your post because we are friends, I expect the same loyalty from you


Squad behaviour
- 1 karma to him because he belongs to the other group
+1 to him because he belongs to us
Hey, that one must be punished. Let’s go after him. Let’s go to his posting history and downgrade a couple of his postings.
Karma mobbing


I can’t imagine people not having enough social media experience to not foresee the outcomes of +/- on posts:
1) Toxic environment
2) Low posting quality
3) Lower participation

[Peter90]

This is how users would know what community like and what it doesn't.

Exactly, so...

... Users writing only what they think „community“ will like.

... Users avoiding posting what they think „community“ won’t like.

... „Community“ punishing those who don’t align.

... „Community“ rewarding those who align.

If you have some experience with forums where those functionalities where deployed, you know what I’m talking about.

So if this is what you want, then go ahead with the +/- karma on posts,
and if you want just 50% of this ****, leave the - and integrate only the +

[bitmover]

Hi Admin
+/- karmas on posts = poison

Users posting what they think will get the most karmas,
Users posting it in the way they think it’ll get most karmas,
Users avoiding posting something out of fear of landing in the crosshair of downvoting trolls

- 1 to her post because yesterday she contradicted me in a way I didn’t like.
- 1 to his post because I don’t like him.
+1 karma to your post because we are friends, I expect the same loyalty from you


Squad behaviour
- 1 karma to him because he belongs to the other group
+1 to him because he belongs to us
Hey, that one must be punished. Let’s go after him. Let’s go to his posting history and downgrade a couple of his postings.
Karma mobbing


I can’t imagine people not having enough social media experience to not foresee the outcomes of +/- on posts:
1) Toxic environment
2) Low posting quality
3) Lower participation

Basically all forums in the internet have this.
Stackoverflow, reddit, bitcointalk.org,  even Facebook and Instagram.

It is an easy way to identify good content and ignore bad content.

This is how intrtnet works man

It will reduce spam and reward good content

[babo]

I did not know that the notification bot can track karma change, that's nice.
Just to be clear the notification bot is created by a 3rd party and have general advice.

the karma given can be because of anything, someone can simply not like you.

Why the info is not public, because it would destroy what we are trying to achieve, which is having a friendly and positive community.
As you can see there is no easy way to find who gave karma, due precisely to that.

I checked the log, i can tell you, it was given by a member who might have misunderstood you, as his English understanding is limited.

+1 Karma to bring back positive vibes to you 

apparently the developer who is maintaining the bot succeeded, I get the karma changes

clearly I don't know who gives me this more or less karma, but the notification is perfect and helps to understand almost in real time what you did well or what you did badly

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✨ You received 1 Positive Karma. Total received Karma 25.
Keep posting good and helpful topic to get more Positive Karma.

[Peter90]

Basically all forums in the internet have this.
Stackoverflow, reddit, bitcointalk.org,  even Facebook and Instagram.

This is how intrtnet works man

Well, unlike you I don't care about the internet Bitmover
nor about Stackoverflow, reddit, bitcointalk.org,  even Facebook and Instagram.
I care only about this community

It is an easy way to identify good content and ignore bad content.

says you

It will reduce spam and reward good content

It will promote squad behaviour

Btw, who will decide about what is spam and what is acceptable content?
The community?
The majority?

... or rather - as usually happens - a bunch of loud and aggressive bullies?

[bitmover]

Btw, who will decide about what is spam and what is acceptable content?
The community?
The majority?

... or rather - as usually happens - a bunch of loud and aggressive bullies?

Aggressive bullies , such as yourself , will only be able to -1, while the majority can make much more +100, +300 etc. As you can see in stackoverflow and reddit for example

This works everywhere,  you dont need to be convinced. Karma also works here, as users who produce low quality content or have low activity already have low karma.

This will only allow more transparency and visibility to good content.

[Cantsay]

- 1 to her post because yesterday she contradicted me in a way I didn’t like.
- 1 to his post because I don’t like him.
+1 karma to your post because we are friends, I expect the same loyalty from you


Squad behaviour
- 1 karma to him because he belongs to the other group
+1 to him because he belongs to us
Hey, that one must be punished. Let’s go after him. Let’s go to his posting history and downgrade a couple of his postings.
Karma mobbing

With what @bitmover suggested above I don’t think it will be possible to exhibit squad behavior when you can’t tell who gave you the negative or positive karma. According to what was suggested above, karma number should be displayed on the post (both negative and positive) without displaying the user it’s coming, that way you won’t be able to decipher who liked the post.

If you go to the “teleportation thread” you’ll see some users that have never made a single post aside applying for campaign being given negative karma and with the current system you really can’t tell if they got it from their application post or directly from the post on the teleportation thread.

[Peter90]

With what @bitmover suggested above I don’t think it will be possible to exhibit squad behavior when you can’t tell who gave you the negative or positive karma.

Anonymity or nonimity are irrelevant.
Group get built out of interactions: ideological similarities, agreements, sympathies etc.
That's normal.
Give those groups a weapon like Like/Dislike and some of them turn into squads



There are studies about the effects of the Like/Dislike features within internet communities.
There are surveys asking people how the feel when they participate in internet forums with those features.
Maybe reading them isn’t a bad idea.



Admin wants traffic.
He wants traffic because traffic means money.

I have an idea
Users who want to karma have to pay.
You buy the karmas that you want to deploy.
So those users who love so much to judge and vote other users can pay and enjoy themselves

Admin happy
Judges happy
Everybody happy

[Peter90]

Btw, who will decide about what is spam and what is acceptable content?
The community?
The majority?

... or rather - as usually happens - a bunch of loud and aggressive bullies?

Aggressive bullies , such as yourself

Don't insult other users bitmover

I didn't insult you
Don't think that I can't

[Jokers]

ℹ️ Peter90, double posting is now allowed on the forum. Use Insert Quote option while you write a post or a Modify button after you published it to add an answer to someone else. You can answer all users in the one post.

[PX-Z]

double posting is now allowed on the forum. Use Insert Quote option while you write a post or a Modify button after you published it to add an answer to someone else. You can answer all users in the one post.

Talking about double posting or posting multiple posts in a row, does this rule fall the same thing for those OP of the thread? In btt the thread starter is exempted from this rule since the OP can make bumps and reserved posts, thus it make multiple posts in a row.

Also, can you quote the forum thread/url rule mentioning this? As i see nothing mentions on this https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=3171.0

[Jokers]

Talking about double posting or posting multiple posts in a row, does this rule fall the same thing for those OP of the thread? In btt the thread starter is exempted from this rule since the OP can make bumps and reserved posts, thus it make multiple posts in a row.

Next post is okay for everyone if about 24 hours are over after the previous post (if we talk about "bump posts"). Reserve posts can be okay also if they are reasonable.

Also, can you quote the forum thread/url rule mentioning this? As i see nothing mentions on this https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=3171.0

If you will read the explanation of the low quality posting rule, you'll see that it is incorrect to make posts "just to increase post count". Double posting is the same, you just artificially make lots of posts where one is enough.

[Peter90]

ℹ️ Peter90, double posting is now allowed on the forum. Use Insert Quote option while you write a post or a Modify button after you published it to add an answer to someone else. You can answer all users in the one post.

Thanks Jokers
I thought insulting other users was not allowed either.

I see that after insulting me this character just took away 1 karma from my profile.
Now imagine him having 5-7 buddies here.
Nice times ahead for this community

[Jokers]

I see that after insulting me this character just took away 1 karma from my profile.
Now imagine him having 5-7 buddies here.
Nice times ahead for this community

I can not only imagine, I vaguely remember the karma confrontation was years ago. There was a group of users who decided that it can be fun to abuse the karma system. All incorrect karma was rollbacked and the abusers got their penalties including the ban on changing karma of others.

[bitmover]

Aggressive bullies , such as yourself

Don't insult other users bitmover

I didn't insult you
Don't think that I can't

You are not insulting me, you are being aggressive with me.

"I don't care"
"I don't care about Internet " (lol ofc you do, you use it)
"Don't think I can't insult you"

Don't be aggressive if you dont want to be called aggressive.  I am not being agreessive with you.