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Author Topic: Haney and Garcia to fight for WBC Junior Welterweight Title On April 20  (Read 1539 times)

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Re: Haney and Garcia to fight for WBC Junior Welterweight Title On April 20
« Reply #45 on: April 11, 2024, 02:19:46 AM »
Media workout of the two boxers is done a couple of hours ago, both look sharp, but I will say that I like what I see on Devin Haney. Ryan has the same style even if he is under Derrick James.

Still plodding and I think it will not be a big problem for Haney as he might pot shot Ryan all night as Garcia doesn't have any movement at all. He will be caught by the straight right and jabs by Haney.

Potshot indeed and I don't think that Devin Haney would risk on brawling against a heavy-handed Ryan Garcia. I'm inclined to believe that though Haney looked sharp in the public workout but i don't think he will go for a knockout win against Garcia, too dangerous for him.

If it presents itself then for sure Haney will go for it, but maybe he will not chase it because as you have said, Ryan still has that left hook and if he not careful he could be hit by one and it will be game over.

I will still be interested on how Derrick James will approach this fight, I wanted Ryan to be as slick as a African boxer and if James can do that to Ryan it will be great hehehe. Just imagine Ryan doing again the Philly shell, but this time it's perfect unlike against his last opponent wherein he almost do a spin trying to pull this one out.  ;D

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Re: Haney and Garcia to fight for WBC Junior Welterweight Title On April 20
« Reply #46 on: April 11, 2024, 04:46:02 AM »
Media workout of the two boxers is done a couple of hours ago, both look sharp, but I will say that I like what I see on Devin Haney. Ryan has the same style even if he is under Derrick James.

Still plodding and I think it will not be a big problem for Haney as he might pot shot Ryan all night as Garcia doesn't have any movement at all. He will be caught by the straight right and jabs by Haney.

Potshot indeed and I don't think that Devin Haney would risk on brawling against a heavy-handed Ryan Garcia. I'm inclined to believe that though Haney looked sharp in the public workout but i don't think he will go for a knockout win against Garcia, too dangerous for him.

If it presents itself then for sure Haney will go for it, but maybe he will not chase it because as you have said, Ryan still has that left hook and if he not careful he could be hit by one and it will be game over.

I will still be interested on how Derrick James will approach this fight, I wanted Ryan to be as slick as a African boxer and if James can do that to Ryan it will be great hehehe. Just imagine Ryan doing again the Philly shell, but this time it's perfect unlike against his last opponent wherein he almost do a spin trying to pull this one out.  ;D

It would be great if Derrick James can instill something on Ryan's defense but i think one or two fight is not enough for him to get what he want, i mean changing the fighting style of Ryan Garcia will not happen overnight. He has done something on his last fight but it was awkward to see, perfecting that defensive stuff would be great against a slick opponent like Haney.

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Re: Haney and Garcia to fight for WBC Junior Welterweight Title On April 20
« Reply #47 on: April 11, 2024, 10:16:54 AM »


It would be great if Derrick James can instill something on Ryan's defense but i think one or two fight is not enough for him to get what he want, i mean changing the fighting style of Ryan Garcia will not happen overnight. He has done something on his last fight but it was awkward to see, perfecting that defensive stuff would be great against a slick opponent like Haney.

You can't teach an old dog new tricks overnight, all derrick James can do is maximize what Ryan has, between him and Haney he has the power, but you cannot beat what you can't hit Haney is a defensive specialist, so Ryan's only chance is to pressure him to open up so he can hit him to be able to knock him out.
He did it on Tank but unfortunately, Tank is a very strong and hard hitter so it took Tank one big punch to hurt Ryan if Ryan does the same against Haney he has a good chance because Haney is not a hard hitter, he needs to take so he can give, Ryan will have to take chances because he's fighting a guy who has a very low knock out ratio.
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Re: Haney and Garcia to fight for WBC Junior Welterweight Title On April 20
« Reply #48 on: April 11, 2024, 03:03:58 PM »
Judging by the replies, it looks like Garcia has a better chance of winning against Haney. Based on that, the odds for Garcia currently @5.80 is extremely attractive (by KO/TKO @10.0, by Points @15.0). What's your take on that? I haven't made a bet on this yet and I might follow along some of the predictions I will read online.

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Re: Haney and Garcia to fight for WBC Junior Welterweight Title On April 20
« Reply #49 on: April 12, 2024, 09:14:37 AM »
Judging by the replies, it looks like Garcia has a better chance of winning against Haney. Based on that, the odds for Garcia currently @5.80 is extremely attractive (by KO/TKO @10.0, by Points @15.0). What's your take on that? I haven't made a bet on this yet and I might follow along some of the predictions I will read online.

People here like me just love underdogs to win in boxing and Ryan Garcia is the underdog here thus his chance of winning depends on how Devin Haney fight this fight, i mean if he would go toe to toe, the chance of Garcia winning increases as the latter is a heavy-handed boxer, in boxing one punch could turn the fight around.

Betting wise, i would put my money (just a small amount hehe) on Ryan Garcia as the odds for him to win is attractive.

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Re: Haney and Garcia to fight for WBC Junior Welterweight Title On April 20
« Reply #50 on: April 12, 2024, 05:19:01 PM »
Judging by the replies, it looks like Garcia has a better chance of winning against Haney. Based on that, the odds for Garcia currently @5.80 is extremely attractive (by KO/TKO @10.0, by Points @15.0). What's your take on that? I haven't made a bet on this yet and I might follow along some of the predictions I will read online.

People here like me just love underdogs to win in boxing and Ryan Garcia is the underdog here thus his chance of winning depends on how Devin Haney fight this fight, i mean if he would go toe to toe, the chance of Garcia winning increases as the latter is a heavy-handed boxer, in boxing one punch could turn the fight around.

Betting wise, i would put my money (just a small amount hehe) on Ryan Garcia as the odds for him to win is attractive.

In boxing, style makes a fight I don't think Haney will go toe to toe it's not his style against hard punchers, he is a thinking fighter, and he loves to frustrate his opponent and he is a Mayweather type of boxer who loves to hit and run, if he decides to go toe to toe this will be in the middle of the latter rounds where he has a big margin on scores and he already hurt his opponent.

Betting for Ryan is a good idea it is attractive, as Ryan is capable of a big upset once he connects his left hook things will go in his favor.
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Re: Haney and Garcia to fight for WBC Junior Welterweight Title On April 20
« Reply #51 on: April 15, 2024, 10:35:04 AM »
Betting for Ryan is a good idea it is attractive, as Ryan is capable of a big upset once he connects his left hook things will go in his favor.

Yeah, just a couple of hard bombs from Ryan Garcia will change the tempo of the fight. I don't think that he will risk his lead in points and go brawling because that left hook of Ryan Garcia is too lethal and dangerous so i think he will potshot Garcia until the latter will be frustrated and throw out of his fight.

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Re: Haney and Garcia to fight for WBC Junior Welterweight Title On April 20
« Reply #52 on: April 15, 2024, 02:30:44 PM »
Devin Haney vs Ryan Garcia for the WBC super lightweight title.
Arnold Barboza Jr. vs Sean McComb; super lightweight
Bektemir Melikuziev vs Pierre Dibombe; super middleweight
John Ramirez vs David Jimenez for the WBA interim super flyweight title
Charles Conwell vs Nathaniel Gallimore, super welterweight


These are the list in the card. May I ask who you guys betting?
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Re: Haney and Garcia to fight for WBC Junior Welterweight Title On April 20
« Reply #53 on: April 16, 2024, 06:25:08 AM »
These are the list in the card. May I ask who you guys betting?

As per bookies, the odds are not attractive if you are betting for Devin Haney to win as he is the heavy favorite to win this fight. Even the "over 10.5" is not attractive as it is only pegged @1.43, this is not attractive to us non-whales. The only way to win big in this fight is to take the risk of betting for Ryan Garcia but that possibility is so slim.

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Re: Haney and Garcia to fight for WBC Junior Welterweight Title On April 20
« Reply #54 on: April 18, 2024, 03:15:51 AM »
These are the list in the card. May I ask who you guys betting?

As per bookies, the odds are not attractive if you are betting for Devin Haney to win as he is the heavy favorite to win this fight. Even the "over 10.5" is not attractive as it is only pegged @1.43, this is not attractive to us non-whales. The only way to win big in this fight is to take the risk of betting for Ryan Garcia but that possibility is so slim.

Right now very very few experts believe that Garcia can beat Haney I stumble this article and it is a compilation of the experts' predictions on who will win in this match, Haney is the overwhelming favorite

FIGHT PICKS: DEVIN HANEY VS. RYAN GARCIA

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Only 1 believed that Garcia would win and one voted for a draw if you're a risk taker Garcia is the bet to make.
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Re: Haney and Garcia to fight for WBC Junior Welterweight Title On April 20
« Reply #55 on: April 18, 2024, 03:47:58 AM »
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Final Tally: Haney 18-1-1
Only 1 believed that Garcia would win and one voted for a draw if you're a risk taker Garcia is the bet to make.

Yeah, if you are a risk taker then a bet for Garcia to win is the way to go, even the ML odds @6.0 is already attractive but if you are a whale and willing to put a big bet then i believe that a bet for this fight to go the distance @1.43 is also the way to go as I think Haney will go pot shotting the whole night.

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Re: Haney and Garcia to fight for WBC Junior Welterweight Title On April 20
« Reply #56 on: April 19, 2024, 07:30:26 PM »
There's a big development in the weigh in, Ryan failed to make it weight, he is more than over 3 pounds but both camps agreed to proceed with the fight, so this day Ryan lost twice, he lost $1.6 million to Haney because of the weigh-in bet and he losses his chance to win the title and on fight night he will lose to Haney and that will make it three loses in a row.

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According to longtime boxing reporter Dan Rafael, the two sides did reach a financial agreement to move ahead with the fight. A Golden Boy spokesperson said that the two reached an agreement and that Garcia would honor the handshake deal made at the press conference.

Ryan Garcia misses weight ahead of fight with Devin Haney, ineligible to win WBC junior welterweight title
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Re: Haney and Garcia to fight for WBC Junior Welterweight Title On April 20
« Reply #57 on: April 20, 2024, 12:27:09 AM »
There's a big development in the weigh in, Ryan failed to make it weight, he is more than over 3 pounds but both camps agreed to proceed with the fight, so this day Ryan lost twice, he lost $1.6 million to Haney because of the weigh-in bet and he losses his chance to win the title and on fight night he will lose to Haney and that will make it three loses in a row.

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According to longtime boxing reporter Dan Rafael, the two sides did reach a financial agreement to move ahead with the fight. A Golden Boy spokesperson said that the two reached an agreement and that Garcia would honor the handshake deal made at the press conference.

Ryan Garcia misses weight ahead of fight with Devin Haney, ineligible to win WBC junior welterweight title

And so Ryan disappoint his fans again going above the contractual weight limit of 140 lbs. So he embarrassed himself, not sure if he did it intentionally or what but doesn't look to be very professional. They could have at least try, but things like this shows or reflect how unprofessional his team his.

Haney make it at 140 lbs, although Ryan is willing to pay $1.5 M but there is no belt on the line here as per rule if someone didn't make the weight then the belt is off as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eyz_FKBV5o8

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Re: Haney and Garcia to fight for WBC Junior Welterweight Title On April 20
« Reply #58 on: April 20, 2024, 03:32:10 AM »
There's a big development in the weigh in, Ryan failed to make it weight, he is more than over 3 pounds but both camps agreed to proceed with the fight, so this day Ryan lost twice, he lost $1.6 million to Haney because of the weigh-in bet and he losses his chance to win the title and on fight night he will lose to Haney and that will make it three loses in a row.

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According to longtime boxing reporter Dan Rafael, the two sides did reach a financial agreement to move ahead with the fight. A Golden Boy spokesperson said that the two reached an agreement and that Garcia would honor the handshake deal made at the press conference.

Ryan Garcia misses weight ahead of fight with Devin Haney, ineligible to win WBC junior welterweight title

And so Ryan disappoint his fans again going above the contractual weight limit of 140 lbs. So he embarrassed himself, not sure if he did it intentionally or what but doesn't look to be very professional. They could have at least try, but things like this shows or reflect how unprofessional his team his.

Haney make it at 140 lbs, although Ryan is willing to pay $1.5 M but there is no belt on the line here as per rule if someone didn't make the weight then the belt is off as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eyz_FKBV5o8

Seems to me that there is something wrong with Ryan Garcia, he's a bit off mentally.

Yeah no belt for Garcia if ever he wins, the title will be vacant if Haney loses this fight but i don't think Garcia would win this one. This recent incident only raises eyebrows on the boxing community and think Ryan is unprofessional, he could have achieve that weight if he is serious on this fight.

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Re: Haney and Garcia to fight for WBC Junior Welterweight Title On April 20
« Reply #59 on: April 20, 2024, 06:16:57 AM »


Seems to me that there is something wrong with Ryan Garcia, he's a bit off mentally.

Yeah no belt for Garcia if ever he wins, the title will be vacant if Haney loses this fight but i don't think Garcia would win this one. This recent incident only raises eyebrows on the boxing community and think Ryan is unprofessional, he could have achieve that weight if he is serious on this fight.

After this fight he needs to visit a psychiatrist I wonder why his team is not doing the right thing he should have one psychiatrist on his team the guy is clearly agitated and misbehaving, and everyone was disappointed nobody expected this to happen.

I wonder what his mental state be when he's in the ring, knowing that he loses $1.6 million before the fight and has no chance of winning the title, the guy is out of control and I will not be surprised if it shows in his performance.

Will this become the end of Ryan Garcia?
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