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Crypto Discussion Forum => Forum related => Forum Court => Topic started by: admin on April 07, 2018, 03:13:26 PM
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"This Is Why We Can’t Have Nice Things"
As you might have noticed, on this forum we have an activity-based ranking system (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=96515.0).
There are always some people that will try to cheat the system. This is why as a community we moderate the system that we created.
Due to those abusing the system just to rank up, such as replies with 1 or 2 words just to increase post count:
- Quick replies and posts with few words are no longer counted. Instead they are punishable
- There are low quality penalties you can receive: negative karma, loss of points, strikes and LQP
- Please do not report (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=112180.0) low quality posts to mods, this is moderated by -karma, otherwise > Penalty (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=11700.0)
This is how you can help us with low quality posters:
- If you find a member shitposting, PM and politely warn and educate the user that low quality posts are punishable with negative karma
- Send them these links to the following topics: How to grow rank & get content without penalties (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=45867.0) as well as Karma - thank/punish (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=657.0)
This is what you can do to punish low quality posters:
- If you are a karma issuing member, give -karma if you feel it's appropriate, but do not abuse this otherwise > Penalty (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=11700.0)
The penalties you will initially face for shistposting varies:
- Negative karma (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=657.0) given to you by members of the forum as well as moderators
- The loss of points or rank demotion when sentenced by a judge in the forum court (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?board=154.0)
- Removing negative karma: You lose some of your points and you need to send 3 ALTS/per negative karma
Repeat offenders who continue to shipost can be given:
- Behavioral strikes (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=180760.0):
- 1st strike (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/Themes/default/images/1st.png) => First offense
- 2nd strike (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/Themes/default/images/2st.png) => Last chance
- 3rd strike (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/Themes/default/images/3st.png) => Posts administrated
- LQP Penalty: (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/Themes/default/images/lowqp.png) => Tagged for LQP
- Removing 1 strike (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=180760.0): You lose 1/2 your points and you need to send 10 ALTS
- Removing 2 strike (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=180760.0): You lose 3/4 of your points and you need to send 50 ALTS
- Removing 3 strike (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=180760.0): You lose all your points and you need to send 250 ALTS
Some advise:
- If you want to rank up, this is absolutely no problem and there is nothing against that, but rank up with quality posts, not shit posts!
- Read the forum rules (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=3171.0) before posting and learn how to rank up without receiving penalties (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=45867.0), otherwise you may be punished.
- Provide good answers, interesting questions, useful topics and helpful comments for other members.
If the user is posting very frequently or bumping threads in a spammy way, report them here (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=62493.0).
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Good solution for the problem admin, but my concern is, how about supporting ICO ANN or Thread like: This is a great project! I will support this. Should we include that? And another concern, how about those member who already ranked up to their respective ranks now who posted low quality posts? Should it affect their previous posts?
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Good solution for the problem admin, but my concern is, how about supporting ICO ANN or Thread like: This is a great project! I will support this. Should we include that? And another concern, how about those member who already ranked up to their respective ranks now who posted low quality posts? Should it affect their previous posts?
this penalty will only address those who abuse,
meaning, from time to time everyone will post a low quality reply, they are not the ones targeted in this penalty
The people targeted are those who do this all the time or very frequently , to rank up
i will no go backward, but if i happen to find anyone doing it since this penalty is introduced, then he will lose a certain amount of post counts, 10, 20, 30 etc ...
thus please everyone, no more shitty posts!
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Good solution for the problem admin, but my concern is, how about supporting ICO ANN or Thread like: This is a great project! I will support this. Should we include that? And another concern, how about those member who already ranked up to their respective ranks now who posted low quality posts? Should it affect their previous posts?
this penalty will only address those who abuse,
meaning, from time to time everyone will post a low quality reply, they are not the ones targeted in this penalty
The people targeted are those who do this all the time or very frequently , to rank up
i will no go backward, but if i happen to find anyone doing it since this penalty is introduced, then he will lose a certain amount of post counts, 10, 20, 30 etc ...
thus please everyone, no more shitty posts!
Copy sir! I will translate this on my local language and post this as a warning to everyone!
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There is a saying This Is Why We Can’t Have Nice Things
There is always some people that will try to cheat the system,
On this forum as you might have noticed we have an easy ranking up system, no waiting for several month to rank up ...
this led some to abuse of the system just to rank up, giving these people negative karma will not prevent them from improving their contribution.
For example, i have came accross many account that reply by 1 or 2 words, just to increase the post count. Even one account was replying "this is great" for practically everything ...
We can not let this pass by, that's why i am introducing the low quality penalty.
If you find such a member, please pm me, or send him a link to this post.
The penalty will be the reduction of posts count, thus loss or reduce in rank.
Anyone posting low quality replies very frequently or bumping threads with duplicated content or quoting of previous text, will suffer from this penalty.
My advise:
If you want to rank up, there is absolutely no problem, and i have nothing against that, but rank with quality posts, not shit posts!!
Best option:
1- Post questions/ answers in your local language section.
2- Contribute in discussions give your opinion.
Good thinking. I'd also like to recommend that there be a minimum karma level at some point soon to rank up. Although there is no real benefit to ranking up, it'd be nice to have an incentive to become a Sr member and above, rather than just by posting a lot. Starting with the idea of having Jr Members requiring neutral karma (which is similar to idea of for airdrops/withdrawals requiring 0 karma anyway) followed by Sr and above requiring a small amount of karma. For me, someone isn't a Jr Member if they have negative karma, they are more likely a spammer. This is so that someone Sr has at least contributed something worthwhile (rather than just a lot of posts), while Hero and above needing to contribute "enough" for said rank.
For example:
Jr Member: 0 karma
Sr Member: 1 karma
Hero Member: X karma
Legendary Member: X karma.
I realise this might be a controversial proposal to some, as BTT has the Merit system, but please remember that the main failure of this system is the bar is set so high (100 for full member for example). I'd therefore suggest a very low karma minimum requirement level, as an experiment.
It'd be nice to hear people's thoughts on this issue.
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There is a saying This Is Why We Can’t Have Nice Things
There is always some people that will try to cheat the system,
On this forum as you might have noticed we have an easy ranking up system, no waiting for several month to rank up ...
this led some to abuse of the system just to rank up, giving these people negative karma will not prevent them from improving their contribution.
For example, i have came accross many account that reply by 1 or 2 words, just to increase the post count. Even one account was replying "this is great" for practically everything ...
We can not let this pass by, that's why i am introducing the low quality penalty.
If you find such a member, please pm me, or send him a link to this post.
The penalty will be the reduction of posts count, thus loss or reduce in rank.
Anyone posting low quality replies very frequently or bumping threads with duplicated content or quoting of previous text, will suffer from this penalty.
My advise:
If you want to rank up, there is absolutely no problem, and i have nothing against that, but rank with quality posts, not shit posts!!
Best option:
1- Post questions/ answers in your local language section.
2- Contribute in discussions give your opinion.
Good thinking. I'd also like to recommend that there be a minimum karma level at some point soon to rank up. Although there is no real benefit to ranking up, it'd be nice to have an incentive to become a Sr member and above, rather than just by posting a lot. Starting with the idea of having Jr Members requiring neutral karma (which is similar to idea of for airdrops/withdrawals requiring 0 karma anyway) followed by Sr and above requiring a small amount of karma. For me, someone isn't a Jr Member if they have negative karma, they are more likely a spammer. This is so that someone Sr has at least contributed something worthwhile (rather than just a lot of posts), while Hero and above needing to contribute "enough" for said rank.
For example:
Jr Member: 0 karma
Sr Member: 1 karma
Hero Member: X karma
Legendary Member: X karma.
I realise this might be a controversial proposal to some, as BTT has the Merit system, but please remember that the main failure of this system is the bar is set so high (100 for full member for example). I'd therefore suggest a very low karma minimum requirement level, as an experiment.
It'd be nice to hear people's thoughts on this issue.
incentive to ranking up is a greater share, i will write a post on the way the members can get share of distribution
karma to rank up implementation is risky as we already have a lot changed, but will look into it
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I have evaluated what you are making right now. and even then I delete the comments of each low level member as you explain.
I know which ones are qualified and not. for warning I will put my subforum on.
so far i keep monitoring comments comments every member for my part.
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Good solution. Also, I will translate this topic to portuguese section.
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My two cents. I fully agree with Low Quality Penalty.
But don't agree with you dragononcrypto.
Rule in Low Quality Penalty: The penalty will be the reduction of posts count, thus loss or reduce in rank.
your words: it'd be nice to have an incentive to become a Sr member and above, rather than just by posting a lot.
Users with no quality posts will be penalized, so if user's posts are good in quality, let him/her to write many posts and rank up. I don't see any sense to have some karma for ranking up.
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My two cents. I fully agree with Low Quality Penalty.
But don't agree with you dragononcrypto.
Rule in Low Quality Penalty: The penalty will be the reduction of posts count, thus loss or reduce in rank.
your words: it'd be nice to have an incentive to become a Sr member and above, rather than just by posting a lot.
Users with no quality posts will be penalized, so if user's posts are good in quality, let him/her to write many posts and rank up. I don't see any sense to have some karma for ranking up.
I agree with what you say, because deleting the low quality postings is reasonable and there is no karma for them. chances are they are new to the forum unless they have long members to be affirmed again
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At long last the solution is set on board. I totally agree with this idea as many members are just particular with the rank and not the quality of the post. I will do my best to support this implementation in whatever way.
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What to do with this posts?
Delete if found and is dated after penalty introduction, later on check the profile for another spam post and if found then report to Admin?
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Using karma to increase rank, most likely, a premature idea. As for the shitposting, it's necessary that the moderators simply delete such meaningless messages.
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Using karma to increase rank, most likely, a premature idea. As for the shitposting, it's necessary that the moderators simply delete such meaningless messages.
I agree with this one. If karma is needed to rank up like BTT we cannot grow enough. Since this is early stages of the forum we'll have to be somewhat lenient. I don't say that we should spare bad quality posts. But show some leniency.
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I see the forum is trying it's best to stop the shitposters. Once an member become loyal to any forum then basically do not care about ranking up or this kind of stuffs. I hope I will have good time here. Just a newbie expecting to hangup with the community.
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I see the forum is trying it's best to stop the shitposters. Once an member become loyal to any forum then basically do not care about ranking up or this kind of stuffs. I hope I will have good time here. Just a newbie expecting to hangup with the community.
This is still very easy to rank up on this forum especially if you don't spam. If you are quality content poster this is enough to post frequently to be hero member in few months. I think this is good and Admin is doing great job adding all new features, requirements and penalties. This all will help to grow this forum in steady and healthy way.
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This is still very easy to rank up on this forum especially if you don't spam. If you are quality content poster this is enough to post frequently to be hero member in few months. I think this is good and Admin is doing great job adding all new features, requirements and penalties. This all will help to grow this forum in steady and healthy way.
Finally I feel like I am having some companion on this forum. Thanks for your feedback on this topic plus on the other topics as well.
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There is a saying This Is Why We Can’t Have Nice Things
There is always some people that will try to cheat the system,
On this forum as you might have noticed we have an easy ranking up system, no waiting for several month to rank up ...
this led some to abuse of the system just to rank up, giving these people negative karma will not push them to improve their contribution.
For example, i have came accross many account that reply by 1 or 2 words, just to increase the post count. Even one account was replying "this is great" for practically everything ...
We can not let this pass by, that's why i am introducing the low quality penalty.
If you find such a member, please pm me, or send him a link to this post.
The penalty will be the reduction of posts count, thus loss or reduce in rank.
Anyone posting low quality replies very frequently or bumping threads with duplicated content or quoting of previous text, will suffer from this penalty.
My advise:
If you want to rank up, there is absolutely no problem, and i have nothing against that, but rank with quality posts, not shit posts!!
Best option:
1- Post questions/ answers in your local language section.
2- Contribute in discussions give your opinion.
update:
quick replies and posts with few words are no longer counted.
I have seen a lot of post in this forum with meaningless point just for rank up this will be consider it because they are newbie into crypto world.
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I have seen a lot of post in this forum with meaningless point just for rank up this will be consider it because they are newbie into crypto world.
I did notice the same however I strongly believe the mods are doing their job and they are scanning the forum with their sharp eyes. Rest assure, we need to make sure we are engaging and helping the forum members.
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I have seen a lot of post in this forum with meaningless point just for rank up this will be consider it because they are newbie into crypto world.
I have seen a lot of post in this forum with meaningless point just for rank up this will be consider it because they are newbie into crypto world.
I did notice the same however I strongly believe the mods are doing their job and they are scanning the forum with their sharp eyes. Rest assure, we need to make sure we are engaging and helping the forum members.
If you see these posts, just click on "Report to moderator" link and moderation will analyze them.
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Good thinking. I'd also like to recommend that there be a minimum karma level at some point soon to rank up. Although there is no real benefit to ranking up, it'd be nice to have an incentive to become a Sr member and above, rather than just by posting a lot. Starting with the idea of having Jr Members requiring neutral karma (which is similar to idea of for airdrops/withdrawals requiring 0 karma anyway) followed by Sr and above requiring a small amount of karma. For me, someone isn't a Jr Member if they have negative karma, they are more likely a spammer. This is so that someone Sr has at least contributed something worthwhile (rather than just a lot of posts), while Hero and above needing to contribute "enough" for said rank.
For example:
Jr Member: 0 karma
Sr Member: 1 karma
Hero Member: X karma
Legendary Member: X karma.
I realise this might be a controversial proposal to some, as BTT has the Merit system, but please remember that the main failure of this system is the bar is set so high (100 for full member for example). I'd therefore suggest a very low karma minimum requirement level, as an experiment.
It'd be nice to hear people's thoughts on this issue.
Let's forget about karma for a minute. If I am not wrong it's similar like merit in BTT.
Take my example in count... I will be a Full Member after making two posts (including this). I registered 2 days ago. The forum is lucky that I do not have any intention to misuse it. I am not even spamming at all. But it's the luck and you can not rely on luck.
If someone register two days ago and after two days if he/she become a Full member and the way I am posting on the forum I bet I will become Sr. Member in the next 7 or so days... You think it's ok to feel for those who are with the forum from long time? Someone with bad intention can run a bot and can post 100s of posts every day and can become a Legend in 10 days (I got this information that you need 1000 posts to become Legend). You think it's fair?
What I am suggesting is, bring something like activity count in BTT. I would like your feedback on it if possible then from the admin.
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Good thinking. I'd also like to recommend that there be a minimum karma level at some point soon to rank up. Although there is no real benefit to ranking up, it'd be nice to have an incentive to become a Sr member and above, rather than just by posting a lot. Starting with the idea of having Jr Members requiring neutral karma (which is similar to idea of for airdrops/withdrawals requiring 0 karma anyway) followed by Sr and above requiring a small amount of karma. For me, someone isn't a Jr Member if they have negative karma, they are more likely a spammer. This is so that someone Sr has at least contributed something worthwhile (rather than just a lot of posts), while Hero and above needing to contribute "enough" for said rank.
For example:
Jr Member: 0 karma
Sr Member: 1 karma
Hero Member: X karma
Legendary Member: X karma.
I realise this might be a controversial proposal to some, as BTT has the Merit system, but please remember that the main failure of this system is the bar is set so high (100 for full member for example). I'd therefore suggest a very low karma minimum requirement level, as an experiment.
It'd be nice to hear people's thoughts on this issue.
Let's forget about karma for a minute. If I am not wrong it's similar like merit in BTT.
Take my example in count... I will be a Full Member after making two posts (including this). I registered 2 days ago. The forum is lucky that I do not have any intention to misuse it. I am not even spamming at all. But it's the luck and you can not rely on luck.
If someone register two days ago and after two days if he/she become a Full member and the way I am posting on the forum I bet I will become Sr. Member in the next 7 or so days... You think it's ok to feel for those who are with the forum from long time? Someone with bad intention can run a bot and can post 100s of posts every day and can become a Legend in 10 days (I got this information that you need 1000 posts to become Legend). You think it's fair?
What I am suggesting is, bring something like activity count in BTT. I would like your feedback on it if possible then from the admin.
Admin is aware of this for sure but AltcoinsTalks is still young forum and we need new members. If there will be problem in the future with ranking abuse for sure Admin will implement new requirement like activity or something similar.
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Let's forget about karma for a minute. If I am not wrong it's similar like merit in BTT.
Take my example in count... I will be a Full Member after making two posts (including this). I registered 2 days ago. The forum is lucky that I do not have any intention to misuse it. I am not even spamming at all. But it's the luck and you can not rely on luck.
If someone register two days ago and after two days if he/she become a Full member and the way I am posting on the forum I bet I will become Sr. Member in the next 7 or so days... You think it's ok to feel for those who are with the forum from long time? Someone with bad intention can run a bot and can post 100s of posts every day and can become a Legend in 10 days (I got this information that you need 1000 posts to become Legend). You think it's fair?
What I am suggesting is, bring something like activity count in BTT. I would like your feedback on it if possible then from the admin.
Admin is aware of this for sure but AltcoinsTalks is still young forum and we need new members. If there will be problem in the future with ranking abuse for sure Admin will implement new requirement like activity or something similar.
I kind of agree with not having many members. I hope once we will have enough member then the admin will bring something that stops easy ranking using bot and stuffs. We need more human than robots.
For example, i have came accross many account that reply by 1 or 2 words, just to increase the post count. Even one account was replying "this is great" for practically everything ...
We can not let this pass by, that's why i am introducing the low quality penalty.
If you find such a member, please pm me, or send him a link to this post.
The penalty will be the reduction of posts count, thus loss or reduce in rank.
Anyone posting low quality replies very frequently or bumping threads with duplicated content or quoting of previous text, will suffer from this penalty.
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update:
quick replies and posts with few words are no longer counted.
Can we use Punish button for such posters? i.e: this post (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=5197.msg27596#msg27596). A topic with a word "Why?" Seriously?
I already reported though but not sure If you press the punish button for this post.
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No, not punish for spam only report and if you want show to spammer link to low quality penalty post from Admin. I already asked this question sooner and I get this answer from Admin. Of course you can report using "report" button and put there all you know about this account. That his is a spammer and low quality poster and should be punished with low quality penalty.
Now I started to think and i'm not so sure about this second part with reporting.
Admin, shall we report such a low quality poster and put in report that he should be punished with low quality penalty or report straight to you via PM. Because I don't think that moderator has the ability to execute this penalty so he has to inform you about this, correct?
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Using karma to increase rank, most likely, a premature idea. As for the shitposting, it's necessary that the moderators simply delete such meaningless messages.
I agree with this idea. No one will grow if they continue this kind of attitude by posting foul words or any unnecessary words which are not related to the topic.
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Admin, shall we report such a low quality poster and put in report that he should be punished with low quality penalty or report straight to you via PM. Because I don't think that moderator has the ability to execute this penalty so he has to inform you about this, correct?
It create double punishment, isn't it? Reporting the post is the minor one than pressing the punish button.
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Admin, shall we report such a low quality poster and put in report that he should be punished with low quality penalty or report straight to you via PM. Because I don't think that moderator has the ability to execute this penalty so he has to inform you about this, correct?
You can do either one. When you report a spam or a low quality post, we always check post historic from user. If he/she is a frequent spammer or shitposter we pass the case to Admin.
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Admin, shall we report such a low quality poster and put in report that he should be punished with low quality penalty or report straight to you via PM. Because I don't think that moderator has the ability to execute this penalty so he has to inform you about this, correct?
You can do either one. When you report a spam or a low quality post, we always check post historic from user. If he/she is a frequent spammer or shitposter we pass the case to Admin.
Thanks for this explanation Claudio2. I'll have to wait for report button to appear again to continue my Crusade against spam. This is so annoying to read two words answers 70% of the time. Low quality penalty should be enforced with full confidence and determination if spammer has been detected.
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Admin, shall we report such a low quality poster and put in report that he should be punished with low quality penalty or report straight to you via PM. Because I don't think that moderator has the ability to execute this penalty so he has to inform you about this, correct?
You can do either one. When you report a spam or a low quality post, we always check post historic from user. If he/she is a frequent spammer or shitposter we pass the case to Admin.
Thanks for this explanation Claudio2. I'll have to wait for report button to appear again to continue my Crusade against spam. This is so annoying to read two words answers 70% of the time. Low quality penalty should be enforced with full confidence and determination if spammer has been detected.
don't report the 2 word replies, as they no longer count in post count, and just generate false urgency
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don't report the 2 word replies, as they no longer count in post count, and just generate false urgency
Thanks for the feedback.
How about this...
It create double punishment, isn't it? Reporting the post is the minor one than pressing the punish button.
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Admin, shall we report such a low quality poster and put in report that he should be punished with low quality penalty or report straight to you via PM. Because I don't think that moderator has the ability to execute this penalty so he has to inform you about this, correct?
You can do either one. When you report a spam or a low quality post, we always check post historic from user. If he/she is a frequent spammer or shitposter we pass the case to Admin.
Thanks for this explanation Claudio2. I'll have to wait for report button to appear again to continue my Crusade against spam. This is so annoying to read two words answers 70% of the time. Low quality penalty should be enforced with full confidence and determination if spammer has been detected.
don't report the 2 word replies, as they no longer count in post count, and just generate false urgency
What will happen with all this spammy two words posts? If we don't report them there is a big chance that they won't be deleted because moderators don't find them.
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Admin, shall we report such a low quality poster and put in report that he should be punished with low quality penalty or report straight to you via PM. Because I don't think that moderator has the ability to execute this penalty so he has to inform you about this, correct?
You can do either one. When you report a spam or a low quality post, we always check post historic from user. If he/she is a frequent spammer or shitposter we pass the case to Admin.
Thanks for this explanation Claudio2. I'll have to wait for report button to appear again to continue my Crusade against spam. This is so annoying to read two words answers 70% of the time. Low quality penalty should be enforced with full confidence and determination if spammer has been detected.
don't report the 2 word replies, as they no longer count in post count, and just generate false urgency
What will happen with all this spammy two words posts? If we don't report them there is a big chance that they won't be deleted because moderators don't find them.
time is the most valuable thing,
i do not want to waste the time of moderators just to hunt down comments with little value.
1- it is unfriendly
2- it's a waste of time
3- it takes time from more important tasks
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I think you will have to gait the rank up system at some point and the built-in karma system is a great idea, just don't cap it too quickly or make the cliff too steep to climb. Maybe 1/4 as tough as bct by the end of 2018, and maybe half as tough by the end of 2019.. or maybe even less than that.
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Admin, shall we report such a low quality poster and put in report that he should be punished with low quality penalty or report straight to you via PM. Because I don't think that moderator has the ability to execute this penalty so he has to inform you about this, correct?
You can do either one. When you report a spam or a low quality post, we always check post historic from user. If he/she is a frequent spammer or shitposter we pass the case to Admin.
Thanks for this explanation Claudio2. I'll have to wait for report button to appear again to continue my Crusade against spam. This is so annoying to read two words answers 70% of the time. Low quality penalty should be enforced with full confidence and determination if spammer has been detected.
don't report the 2 word replies, as they no longer count in post count, and just generate false urgency
What will happen with all this spammy two words posts? If we don't report them there is a big chance that they won't be deleted because moderators don't find them.
time is the most valuable thing,
i do not want to waste the time of moderators just to hunt down comments with little value.
1- it is unfriendly
2- it's a waste of time
3- it takes time from more important tasks
I understand reasons behind such a decision about spam. After thoughts, I think, I know why you don't want to delete this posts Admin.
I close my eyes to spam and we come back to this discussion later on when AltcoinsTalks forum will be more recognizable and trample on the heels of the competition ie BTT. ;)
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This will encourage a lot of members here in this forum to post high quality posts, because if we dont. We will get penalties. Now everyone will make their best to make informative and helpful posts now.
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if i post a free service, i will reply many times. is it violate policy? thanks.
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if i post a free service, i will reply many times. is it violate policy? thanks.
If your replies are new informations about yout service, it's OK.
But replies with "up" or repetitive content are not allowed
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Is there any way of tracking reports that have been sent? Basically whether anything has been done about the posts if the moderators agree, or if the report was rejected? I can't find anything regarding reports that I've sent. If I knew whether I was correct in sending the reports, I would have more of an idea on what to report in the future. I think it would help to improve the forum overall if the member sending the reports could see some sort of feedback on reports they sent.
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Hello there I have question regarding those post on the bounty section with twitter link and facebook link for their campaign? Are that considered as low quality posts?
I like the idea of penalizing those spammer with reducing post count or rank. But how the system will be updated just like that? For example a Senior member rank which posts shitty post penalize for doing it. He will just become Full member rank?
On my opinion. Grounds for spamming especially those were mentioned on the OP should received big penalties, so next time they wouldn't just write and will think first. The system here is quite good as there no boundaries on posting provided that it is not a shitty one. For me this is the way it should be.
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Hello there I have question regarding those post on the bounty section with twitter link and facebook link for their campaign? Are that considered as low quality posts?
I like the idea of penalizing those spammer with reducing post count or rank. But how the system will be updated just like that? For example a Senior member rank which posts shitty post penalize for doing it. He will just become Full member rank?
On my opinion. Grounds for spamming especially those were mentioned on the OP should received big penalties, so next time they wouldn't just write and will think first. The system here is quite good as there no boundaries on posting provided that it is not a shitty one. For me this is the way it should be.
reporting bounty is not low quality
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Hello there I have question regarding those post on the bounty section with twitter link and facebook link for their campaign? Are that considered as low quality posts?
I like the idea of penalizing those spammer with reducing post count or rank. But how the system will be updated just like that? For example a Senior member rank which posts shitty post penalize for doing it. He will just become Full member rank?
On my opinion. Grounds for spamming especially those were mentioned on the OP should received big penalties, so next time they wouldn't just write and will think first. The system here is quite good as there no boundaries on posting provided that it is not a shitty one. For me this is the way it should be.
reporting bounty is not low quality
Okay thanks for the clarification. I just noticed points are restricted on 3 points added if new topic is posted and 1 point for reply comment. What is the highest point awarded here considering the post of a member is outstanding and beyond expectations?
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Hello admin,
I am a Vietnamese. I joined this forum for the purpose of tracking and discussing the news to the crypto community. However, I find that many people are using the local language box to spam to help them increase their rankings for signature campaigns. Here is an example. Can you have a good solution to limit this? When you go to a discussion box, do you see news or repetitive topics that annoy you?
Link topic 1: https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=60075.0
(https://i.postimg.cc/ZnbpwSTb/image.png)
Link topic 2: https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=60035.0
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What about the people who make topics with the same subject.Today i see two topics with the same subject. in Monero forum( Is Monero a Good Investment?) and Litecoin forum( Do you think litecoin will lasts forever?).
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]"Anyone posting low quality replies very frequently or bumping threads with duplicated content or quoting of previous text, will suffer from this penalty."
I agree with this but can we also consider that there are those who do nor speak English very well. They like to participate but instead of using Google translate, they copy the most written phrase on the thread. Another thing is, some projects require making a short post to confirm involvement, how will that affect such persons? Thank you.
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Hello admin,
I am a Vietnamese. I joined this forum for the purpose of tracking and discussing the news to the crypto community. However, I find that many people are using the local language box to spam to help them increase their rankings for signature campaigns. Here is an example. Can you have a good solution to limit this? When you go to a discussion box, do you see news or repetitive topics that annoy you?
Link topic 1: https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=60075.0
(https://i.postimg.cc/ZnbpwSTb/image.png)
Link topic 2: https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=60035.0
(https://i.postimg.cc/1Xv6Tjtp/image.png)
They only use copy/paste to boost their ranking. I have a topic on Vietnamese section about palagiarism content, hope local admin will have resolution for that.
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Hello admin,
I am a Vietnamese. I joined this forum for the purpose of tracking and discussing the news to the crypto community. However, I find that many people are using the local language box to spam to help them increase their rankings for signature campaigns. Here is an example. Can you have a good solution to limit this? When you go to a discussion box, do you see news or repetitive topics that annoy you?
Link topic 1: https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=60075.0
(https://i.postimg.cc/ZnbpwSTb/image.png)
Link topic 2: https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=60035.0
(https://i.postimg.cc/1Xv6Tjtp/image.png)
They only use copy/paste to boost their ranking. I have a topic on Vietnamese section about palagiarism content, hope local admin will have resolution for that.
I joined altcointalk for a long time and I know what I'm doing in this. I'm not good at speaking english so I choose the local section to post. At that time, very few Vietnamese knew Altcointalks so I looked at how local administrators posted and I followed him. What did I do wrong with what the local administrator did? I use the "search" function before posting a post. Look at the picture and look at the time. OK. If I'm wrong, punish me.
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Hello admin,
I am a Vietnamese. I joined this forum for the purpose of tracking and discussing the news to the crypto community. However, I find that many people are using the local language box to spam to help them increase their rankings for signature campaigns. Here is an example. Can you have a good solution to limit this? When you go to a discussion box, do you see news or repetitive topics that annoy you?
As I see, this is discussion box. And my topic is about discussion topic. Maybe pokxon does not check my topic, It already has. This is not big problem, In bct have more duplicate topic. Mod should work harder to remove it.
take a deep look at both posts, your post is not original and you did not mention the resource. This is considered as palagiarism. With pokxon, I think he have followed the rules
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Hello admin,
I am a Vietnamese. I joined this forum for the purpose of tracking and discussing the news to the crypto community. However, I find that many people are using the local language box to spam to help them increase their rankings for signature campaigns. Here is an example. Can you have a good solution to limit this? When you go to a discussion box, do you see news or repetitive topics that annoy you?
As I see, this is discussion box. And my topic is about discussion topic. Maybe pokxon does not check my topic, It already has. This is not big problem, In bct have more duplicate topic. Mod should work harder to remove it.
take a deep look at both posts, your post is not original and you did not mention the resource. This is considered as palagiarism. With pokxon, I think he have followed the rules
Maybe he forgot this. We may consider his case. I talked to him about this issue.
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Good thinking. I'd also like to recommend that there be a minimum karma level at some point soon to rank up. Although there is no real benefit to ranking up, it'd be nice to have an incentive to become a Sr member and above, rather than just by posting a lot. Starting with the idea of having Jr Members requiring neutral karma (which is similar to idea of for airdrops/withdrawals requiring 0 karma anyway) followed by Sr and above requiring a small amount of karma. For me, someone isn't a Jr Member if they have negative karma, they are more likely a spammer. This is so that someone Sr has at least contributed something worthwhile (rather than just a lot of posts), while Hero and above needing to contribute "enough" for said rank.
For example:
Jr Member: 0 karma
Sr Member: 1 karma
Hero Member: X karma
Legendary Member: X karma.
I realise this might be a controversial proposal to some, as BTT has the Merit system, but please remember that the main failure of this system is the bar is set so high (100 for full member for example). I'd therefore suggest a very low karma minimum requirement level, as an experiment.
It'd be nice to hear people's thoughts on this issue.
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Altcoinstalk Forum is relatively new and still trying to get members to come in, so I don't think your idea will help achieve this aim. That is not to say that shitty and useless post should be allowed. But like the solution proferred by the admin, shitty post = point loss will make people sit up and think about what they post before posting.
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Hello admin,
I am a Vietnamese. I joined this forum for the purpose of tracking and discussing the news to the crypto community. However, I find that many people are using the local language box to spam to help them increase their rankings for signature campaigns. Here is an example. Can you have a good solution to limit this? When you go to a discussion box, do you see news or repetitive topics that annoy you?
I see I am on your report. OK, this is my fault when create duplicate topic, I did not pay attention when posting new posts. Next time I will pay attention to the topics already on the ALTT. And this topic already deleted for duplicate.
But, before you report some one like you are very kind and good member there. Be sure you are good. But NO, you are a hypocrite and suck persion only.
https:// bitcointalk .org/index.php?topic=4619387.msg42774789#msg42774789
(https://i.imgur.com/NJoAy3q.png)
https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=42337.msg321544#msg321544
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Thank you for writing an article on of the major issues of a forum that is abusing and still getting higher post counts. These people should have reduced post counts and someone should charge them a higher amount of penalty so that they can get a lesson from it. This article will surely help in the growth of forum
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Why are low quality links bad for SEO? To answer the ... I'll also be looking at link penalties (and giving tips for recovery).
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Updated. "There are always some people that will try to cheat the system. This is why as a community we moderate the system that we created."
There is a saying: "This Is Why We Can’t Have Nice Things"
As you might have noticed, on this forum we have an activity-based ranking system (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=96515.0).
There are always some people that will try to cheat the system. This is why as a community we moderate the system that we created.
Due to those abusing the system just to rank up, such as replies with 1 or 2 words just to increase post count:
- Quick replies and posts with few words are no longer counted. Instead they are punishable
- There are low quality penalties you can receive: negative karma, loss of points, strikes and LQP
- Please do not report (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=112180.0) low quality posts to mods, this is moderated by -karma, otherwise > Penalty (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=11700.0)
This is how you can help us with low quality posters:
- If you find a member shitposting, PM and politely warn and educate the user that low quality posts are punishable with negative karma
- Send them these links to the following topics: How to grow rank & get content without penalties (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=45867.0) as well as Karma - thank/punish (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=657.0)
This is what you can do to punish low quality posters:
- If you are a karma issuing member, give -karma if you feel it's appropriate, but do not abuse this otherwise > Penalty (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=11700.0)
- If you are a Hero member or above, you can appeal for a shitposter karma review to karma issuers > Click here (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=182780.0)
The penalties you will initially face for shistposting varies:
- Negative karma (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=657.0) given to you by members of the forum as well as moderators
- The loss of points or rank demotion when sentenced by a judge in the forum court (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?board=154.0)
- Removing negative karma: You lose some of your points and you need to send 3 ALTS/per negative karma
Repeat offenders who continue to shipost can be given:
- Behavioral strikes (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=180760.0):
- 1st strike (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/Themes/default/images/1st.png)
- 2nd strike (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/Themes/default/images/2st.png)
- 3rd strike (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/Themes/default/images/3st.png)
- LQP Penalty: (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/Themes/default/images/lowqp.png).
Some advise:
- If you want to rank up, this is absolutely no problem and there is nothing against that, but rank up with quality posts, not shit posts!
- Read the forum rules (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=3171.0) before posting and learn how to rank up without receiving penalties (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=45867.0), otherwise you may be punished.
- Provide good answers, interesting questions, useful topics and helpful comments for other members.
If the user is posting very frequently or bumping threads in a spammy way, report them here (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=62493.0).
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Updated. "There are always some people that will try to cheat the system. This is why as a community we moderate the system that we created."
Vision is important to maintain the mission. Because vision without a mission is just a written letters on the water - useless. So to moderate the forum is necessary to form the future at the present. Bigger place is what I see in Altcoins Talks which I think I'm already there.
I'll support.
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This is really good. The forum is really working, its system is strict and yet friendly. I hope this will continue.
Shalom, shalom.
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This is really good. The forum is really working, its system is strict and yet friendly. I hope this will continue.
Shalom, shalom.
Everything change according to what the community's behavior. I hope the friendly environment will continue because we all need love and respect. Also hope that everyone will participate and abide the forum rules.
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I think we all see that finally more is happening on the forum and admins with mods published many updates about everything.
I can assure everybody that the court will be kept updated and cases resolved whiteout any issues or delays
Court is an original feature and to be honest I haven't seen it anywhere else.
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I think we all see that finally more is happening on the forum and admins with mods published many updates about everything.
That's great!
The forum evidence of preparing much bigger and wider range fair approach. Healthy forum. More good things to come.
I can assure everybody that the court will be kept updated and cases resolved whiteout any issues or delays
Court is an original feature and to be honest I haven't seen it anywhere else.
Nice.
From the past even until now, the forum remains intense once there is an open case. The court is the place where they can find the fair judgment.