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Re: Cheater on Non Fungible Defi (NFD) signature campaign
« Reply #30 on: July 09, 2021, 01:39:54 PM »
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This user (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=80913) is assistant bounty manger of Bounty Detective group. He has lot of contribution to our forum community. He is very helpful. He needs an account with Potential Hero or Potential Legendary badge. If you please consider his application, i will be grateful to you.

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however i do consider the scam badge a bit too much, for bounty cheating
and we should reserve the scam to scammers
thus maybe use a cheater badge instead for anyone cheating - will create this soon
meanwhile papa can simply lose the potential hero rank as a punishment
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Re: Cheater on Non Fungible Defi (NFD) signature campaign
« Reply #31 on: July 09, 2021, 03:17:18 PM »
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Dear Admin
Hope you are well.

This user (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=80913) is assistant bounty manger of Bounty Detective group. He has lot of contribution to our forum community. He is very helpful. He needs an account with Potential Hero or Potential Legendary badge. If you please consider his application, i will be grateful to you.

Thanks
Malam90

however i do consider the scam badge a bit too much, for bounty cheating
and we should reserve the scam to scammers
thus maybe use a cheater badge instead for anyone cheating - will create this soon
meanwhile papa can simply lose the potential hero rank as a punishment
what??  Malam90 who asked the admin to give a potential hero or legendary for papa bear. We all know  Malam90 who defended Papa Bear in the Small Rabbit group tele. I think It's   not a coincidence, it turns out they are close and have known for a long time.  So deleting POA is not just a member request, but a friend request.
underlined..
friend request..

For now, Admin decided papa bear is a cheater, I ask how is malam 90?  he helps cheater by removing the POA.  What punishment deserves to malam90?

I think it's the proof...
a conspiracy..

Dear admin.. I ask a justice
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Re: Cheater on Non Fungible Defi (NFD) signature campaign
« Reply #32 on: July 09, 2021, 05:57:01 PM »
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This user (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=80913) is assistant bounty manger of Bounty Detective group. He has lot of contribution to our forum community. He is very helpful. He needs an account with Potential Hero or Potential Legendary badge. If you please consider his application, i will be grateful to you.

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however i do consider the scam badge a bit too much, for bounty cheating
and we should reserve the scam to scammers
thus maybe use a cheater badge instead for anyone cheating - will create this soon
meanwhile papa can simply lose the potential hero rank as a punishment
what??  Malam90 who asked the admin to give a potential hero or legendary for papa bear. We all know  Malam90 who defended Papa Bear in the Small Rabbit group tele. I think It's   not a coincidence, it turns out they are close and have known for a long time.  So deleting POA is not just a member request, but a friend request.
underlined..
friend request..

For now, Admin decided papa bear is a cheater, I ask how is malam 90?  he helps cheater by removing the POA.  What punishment deserves to malam90?

I think it's the proof...
a conspiracy..

Dear admin.. I ask a justice
a judgement error can be made by anyone ...
i am not here to reign with fire and terror ...
as a matter of fact, i am not here to reign at all, this forum have an elected president and a chosen senate
if this issue is seen as something that needs addressing, please do refer it to them.
i only ask everyone to keep in mind that our site has set out to be a friendly site, thus try to avoid harsh punishment if not absolutely necessary, and be merciful when possible .
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Re: Cheater on Non Fungible Defi (NFD) signature campaign
« Reply #33 on: July 12, 2021, 03:20:16 PM »
i am not here to reign with fire and terror ...

Seriously? This isn't what we agreed  ???
Just kidding  :P

as a matter of fact, i am not here to reign at all, this forum have an elected president and a chosen senate
if this issue is seen as something that needs addressing, please do refer it to them.

There we go folks, you heard it. Please refer to the relevant department with your issues: Presidents, Senators or Judges.
This is literally why they were nominated and elected by the community ;)

i only ask everyone to keep in mind that our site has set out to be a friendly site, thus try to avoid harsh punishment if not absolutely necessary, and be merciful when possible .

As per usual. Hopefully others will acknowledge this is the message that you always focus on.
It's taken me a few years to come around, but I'm in agreement these days  ;)

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Re: Cheater on Non Fungible Defi (NFD) signature campaign
« Reply #34 on: July 14, 2021, 08:32:38 AM »
Finally getting around to answering some of your opinions, since you addressed me personally. I did write reply before but laptop cut out and lost my reply, so had to write this again ::)
Note: double post due to time delay. If I edited my previous post as I previously intended, I don't believe anyone would notice (such as yourself). Ie a legitimate double post in my opinion.

But I don't know why the Honorable Mr. President gave you - karma only because of double posts, while the posts are referred to different members.
I am asking here as an ordinary member,
is there any restriction to do that or is that not allowed to do this and will get -Karma? Where I can check this because I commonly saw several posts like this, if there is this restriction, I will also give negative karma.

I gave negative karma for exactly the reason you stated as well as quoted below. You are allowed to make double posts (it's not against the rules), senior members and above are also allowed to give -karma if they feel it's appropriate. For example when it's annoying or disruptive to discussion. In this case, I felt it was annoying and unnecessary. Karma is curated by the community, not by moderators.  I gave -karma as a member of the community, not as a president. Presidential -karma would be -2 or more for reference sake.

Double post -1.

I also give each +3 for the judges @alltalk and @mnixxo that have supported and make fair solutions to this case.
And also give +1 karma to others who are also a good discussion on this thread.

I also gave +karma (unspecified) to the OP as well as Judges, regardless of whether I agree with their decision or not. +karma is for good quality contributions, not for agreeing to an opinion you like.

And I gave -3 karma to the cheater because he deserves it. Although it is a friendly forum doesn't mean acceptance for a cheater. or is it acceptable?

Regarding karma, this isn't for me, admin, VP, Senators or Mods to decide. This is up to the community to decide, yourself included. Ideally, the community decides that cheating isn't acceptable: yes.
I simply took back my negative karma that I previously gave (I gave -2 or -3 I think), this being my decision to make.

It is funny, I am not the kind of people who really care about this, and telling one by one to give Karma if it is not necessary. But I only follow the Honorable Mr.President here as a "Role Model" here.

I am no "Role Model", you must have me confused with someone else. I am merely the President elected by the Senate. For role models, you're better of following the Senators who were elected by the community.
For reference sake, I wasn't elected by the community. You can otherwise try and be your own role model, or a role model for others (as you appear to be doing), this is a lot more productive imo.

I don't know who you all are, but seeing the discussion on this thread and seeing who you are all here, most are the administrators and staff here. And I am as an ordinary member really expect that "a Fair Judgement and Solution" for this. It is so funny.

It's true most of the members replying here are staff, members similar to yourself are probably too scared to have their say in fear of having their opinions attacked or receiving negative karma. I wouldn't describe you as an ordinary member for the fact you have freely stated your opinions. Ordinary members are usually too scared to do this unfortunately. For reference sake, any members of staff (or otherwise) giving -karma for opinions they disagree with will be severely punished by myself. None of us want a hostile environment to "ordinary members" that restricts freedom of speech and expression. Everyone should feel entitled to have their say, even if it's a pointless contribution, as long as it's polite and not attacking each other, etc.

And WOW, I super surprised when seeing these:
Regardless I've given you +3, due to your acknowledgement of wrong doing and engaging in this discussion.
I really really don't know with the system of Karma here and how we can give it, it is only based on a person?
I am really jealous of this concern,
How could a Cheater get + karma just because he wanted to discuss this thread until it showed I Gave +3 karma on this post?
Whereas I used to investigate my case by myself, solved my case, no one cared about me and did not help solve my case here, adn whether I gave that kind of LONG INVESTIGATION RESULT, NO ONE gave me and say I gave you + Karma on it.
https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=208085.msg1161328#msg1161328

For Karma usage see: https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=657.0

Summary: karma should never be given to a user because they are "good" or "bad", it should be given for their contribution., so +karma when of value and -karma when breaking the rules or otherwise. Hence you can't give +karma to a user without it being referenced to a post (this is how the karma log works). For me, acknowledging wrong doing is a valuable contribution. You don't have to agree with my decision, I'm indifferent. If anything, I'd prefer people to disagree with me on this, but unfortunately apart from yourself no-one seems to bother. Again, probably due to the fear factor I consistently try and dismantle, or otherwise mods naively worrying that they will lose their role or fail to gain promotions if they disagree with me. Those who have known me long enough, know that disagreeing with me is more likely to get you promoted, not demoted, but again, nevermind.

And the Most Honorable President only typed Like this: not giving and supporting with +Karma like what has the Honorable Mr President did to the cheater.

Good luck with that  :)

For starters, I think you have me confused with someone else, probably mnixxo. I am not the "Most Honorable President", that would be mnixxo for successfully serving his term and honorably becoming the 1st President. I haven't finished my term successfully yet, so I am far from the most honorable. I'm also two weeks behind on spreadhseets, but fortunately the team here are understanding that I don't have the same time for the forum that I do over winter. Additionally, it's not a competition to be the most anything here. Mnixxo and I work together, as I do with the Vice President. We have a Committee of Presidents for this exact reason.
 
Anyway, I added in the quote, as the context is quite relevant here. This isn't what I would write to any member of the forum, only to Zed0X, maybe freemind as well, but not to any member, it's arguably rude and unhelpful. Why did I say this?

I have known this member for 3 years now, we worked together to tackle the issue of plagiarism when the forum became riddled by plagiarists, we have an understanding between us. This Senator even received negative karma from karma abusers over it, but was fearless to their retaliation, instead worked harder to root out the plagiarists and have them punished. In the end, the plagiarists were given a new rank "Karma Abuser" and had their karma issuance revoked. What's the relevance of this history? While I appreciate their contributions, including that one, they are quite the antagonist at heart, I also know they can take a dose of antagonism without feeling insulted. Zed0x consistently expressing opinions freely, without much concern over whether others will agree or not.

This was me honoring their role as a "thick skinned", free-thinking and (in my opinion) most outspoken Senator of this forum, as there are not enough members like this. I'm quite sure Zed0x understands me here.
If you notice Zed0x's reply, they were far from insulted, because they aren't easily insulted by others expressing themselves either.
Unfortunately as most members are, I take my opportunities to express myself freely without insulting others whenever possible.

Long shot, I know ;D It seems three accounts were activated recently.

You are also welcome to give me -karma for that post if you felt it was a shitpost: https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=13796.0
I am not immune from receiving negative karma, nor should I be, and admin would punish me for retaliating with any in return I assure you. If presidential karma was ever used in retaliation, I'd also certainly be removed from my role.
Sometimes I shitpost it's true. It's in the hope someone will give me negative karma, unfortunately no-one seems to do so, no doubt too scared they would receive -karma in return. But instead, they'd get +karma from me for not being scared in giving -karma to a president. Hence: not a role model, but instead try and encourage others to be role models, as well as more fearless and outspoken ideally.

like what @Nostoman did and get -karma because of it
(
Good investigation.
)

For reasons stated above, I wouldn't compare these two replies. Nostoman knows what shitposting is, this wouldn't be the first time, and he can do a lot better than that. He also knows this, I am simply reminding him of this. Referencing this as a shitpost was for no-one else but Nostoman.

But I know and I am aware, I am nobody here and I don't have any power. Moreover, I'm sure the Honorable Mr. President is certainly very fair in doing something.
And if this forum is friendly, why gave -Karma the OP because of his very very small mistake? Or, I am actually really curious about the system of Karma itself.

It's simply not true you don't have power, you are a high ranking member of this forum with the power to distribute karma according to the rules and how you feel it's appropriate.
Arguably, you not only have power but you also have responsibility to use it to curate the quality you want to see here. To quote the Peter Parker principle: Great power comes with great responsibility.


And here I don't intend to make this thread weird again and again, but actually, I am really curious about what happens this far on this thread.
With the decision to give +3 karma to the cheater, I will always note this that:
Every member here who is a cheater, spammers, or whatever the mistakes are done, what you need to do is by saying "sorry for my mistake" and also involved and engaged in the discussion thread, and you will get +3 karma.
This is one of the things that I can get from this thread.
So, don't worry if you make any mistakes later, I will remind everyone to do this. Really interesting, I will keep this in mind, screenshot, and others.

Isn't that like that Mr. President?

No, you are wrong here. I took back the negative karma I gave . As referenced above, I gave presidential -karma to the cheater as well. I took it back, this doesn't mean they received +karma from me, but neutral (none). I just didn't feel the need to explain this, in the hope of having someone disagree with me and freely criticize my actions. So thanks  ;)

In these situations it's otherwise important I remain neutral. I don't want to influence the decision of Judges, nor any members of staff that agree/disagree with me. Unfortunately, too many members and staff will simply follow the decisions and opinions of myself or admin and it's overall very counter-productive to democracy. Strength is in diversity, not conformity.

I like this forum because intended to make this forum more friendly for members (or also for cheatehrs?).

Now there is a cheater tag, as well as a relatively new sub-section for investigations, I don't think it's intended to be more friendly for cheaters no. This forum is however intended to be friendly for everyone, even if disruptive for scammers, spammers, cheaters, plagiarists. etc. Have you noticed how much time and effort I've put into warning members about the punishment they can receive for breaking the rules??

See: https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=180760.0

Furthermore, I respect the wishes of the admin to show forgiveness. This usually isn't my style as many mods know here. Many were probably surprised to see me give +karma to a cheater, but ultimately, they are still tagged as such so aren't going to be able to cheat any bounty managers anyway. I gave took back my -karma to the cheater due to their contribution within this thread, not to encourage more cheaters or make this place more friendly towards them. It was encourage the idea of users taking responsibility for their actions and acknowledging their wrong doing. That should have been obvious, but nevermind.
 
And I probably will get -Karma because I have said something bad here, no problem. That is me.

Again, false. I gave you +2 for your contribution, as seemingly the only non-mod freely expressing an opinion. Even though I disagree with most of your opinions, they are still valuable contributions.
It would of been +4 if not for the lack of self-education regarding karma usage that you should know better being a Legend, as well as some assumptions that aren't true.

Note: I spent a fair amount of time replying to you over this, probably the longest post I've written in months, you can check my history. I don't reserve lengthy replies to mods, as I don't believe in putting them on a pedestal that they don't deserve (apart from hair maybe  :P). Instead, I spent my time replying to you instead of filling out spreedsheets for mod rewards for Q2, putting you before them it's worth noting. Food for thought.

TL:DR: I am not who you think I am.
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Re: Cheater on Non Fungible Defi (NFD) signature campaign
« Reply #35 on: July 14, 2021, 11:14:29 AM »
At first, I was confused about this post. So manually I created shit post. For this -1 karma does not matter. so It was deserved for me. So I’m not blaming anyone.

DR: +

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Re: Cheater on Non Fungible Defi (NFD) signature campaign
« Reply #36 on: July 14, 2021, 11:06:13 PM »
At first, I was confused about this post. So manually I created shit post. For this -1 karma does not matter. so It was deserved for me. So I’m not blaming anyone.

DR: +

Smart move +2. For recognizing that receiving -1 means next to nothing. It's so easily redeemable with a little acknowledgement, it's a value lesson for others I believe...
Not because you gave me +1 either. I officially stopped caring about receiving +karma when I became President, now I'm all about giving ++ 8)
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Re: Cheater on Non Fungible Defi (NFD) signature campaign
« Reply #37 on: July 15, 2021, 01:35:31 PM »
That type of shit made me move from bounty management  :-\

Let me drop my opinion although no one asked for  :)

- Everything in bounty campaign is up to the manager only.
- Project team hired that particular manager.
- That hunter is not a cheater in my opinion, but he tried to abuse his special membership tag indeed. If it was my campaign I would probably just remove him from the participants without any penalties, because it not worth it.
- If you think he shouldn't be in campaign it is your right, but it is up to the manager to decide, maybe the manager made mistake by accepting him, it is still the manager mistake, not the hunter, especially if he discussed his rank with BM before joining.
- I am on the crypto forums for many years now, if any of my collegues/friends/users I am familiar with will ask me for help and I will help them, should I be punished later just for that? If I am not involved in their cheating (what in my opinion is just a mistake in that case).

Papa Bear probably tried to use his status for profit, but which of us are not here to do that? I understand how frustrating it is for those who have earned their own rank over the years, I am such a forum member myself, but we shouldn't be so strict.

In any campaign, someone will remain unsatisfied, because campaigns are launched to promote a project, not to give someone an opportunity to make money. It's win + win, but only for those who are lucky and selected by the manager.

My opinion is that I understand the frustration of those who have earned their own rank, but pointlessly punishing their competitors (and all forum members are direct competitors in this sense, when it comes to participation in the bounty) through bureaucratic forces and forum moderation is not really something that can solve the problem.

I am not a moderator, not a judge, not an administrator, not a bounty manager and not a participant (of that campaign), I am not involved in this particular case and am not directly familiar with any of the parties, so my opinion is objective (as possible). I cannot and do not want to influence this situation and get involved in it, but as a supporter of freedom of speech I decided to use it and express my opinion. Have a good day, everyone!

(and don't take forum business so personally - Your health is really more important, nerves in forum disputes is a waste of time, discuss problems more calmly, because one way or another every situation will have some kind of ending and a solution)
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Re: Cheater on Non Fungible Defi (NFD) signature campaign
« Reply #38 on: July 15, 2021, 01:39:17 PM »
That type of shit made me move from bounty management  :-\

Let me drop my opinion although no one asked for  :)

- Everything in bounty campaign is up to the manager only.
- Project team hired that particular manager.
- That hunter is not a cheater in my opinion, but he tried to abuse his special membership tag indeed. If it was my campaign I would probably just remove him from the participants without any penalties, because it not worth it.
- If you think he shouldn't be in campaign it is your right, but it is up to the manager to decide, maybe the manager made mistake by accepting him, it is still the manager mistake, not the hunter, especially if he discussed his rank with BM before joining.
- I am on the crypto forums for many years now, if any of my collegues/friends/users I am familiar with will ask me for help and I will help them, should I be punished later just for that? If I am not involved in their cheating (what in my opinion is just a mistake in that case).

Papa Bear probably tried to use his status for profit, but which of us are not here to do that? I understand how frustrating it is for those who have earned their own rank over the years, I am such a forum member myself, but we shouldn't be so strict.

In any campaign, someone will remain unsatisfied, because campaigns are launched to promote a project, not to give someone an opportunity to make money. It's win + win, but only for those who are lucky and selected by the manager.

My opinion is that I understand the frustration of those who have earned their own rank, but pointlessly punishing their competitors (and all forum members are direct competitors in this sense, when it comes to participation in the bounty) through bureaucratic forces and forum moderation is not really something that can solve the problem.

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Re: Cheater on Non Fungible Defi (NFD) signature campaign
« Reply #39 on: July 15, 2021, 05:11:58 PM »
Let me drop my opinion although no one asked for  :)

+1 See no real reason of punishing a user too. Especially because he asked if he can take part in the campaign with a specific badge, before entering.
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Re: Cheater on Non Fungible Defi (NFD) signature campaign
« Reply #40 on: July 15, 2021, 05:27:17 PM »
Let me drop my opinion although no one asked for  :)

+1 See no real reason of punishing a user too. Especially because he asked if he can take part in the campaign with a specific badge, before entering.
Exactly! You clearly recognized my main point - why this user even considered as a cheater by forum moderation if he asked the BM to join the campaign and he was allowed by BM!

No matter what you think about whole case (there are some things I disagree with from all the parties), but it is not a cheating and surely not a scam in my opinion.

Probably this user must lose his special badge (he already did and even this doubtful, why he even received the badge initially, if he deserves it - nothing changed by that case) and he can be removed from campaign by its manager, but that's all.
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Re: Cheater on Non Fungible Defi (NFD) signature campaign
« Reply #41 on: July 15, 2021, 05:53:57 PM »
Let me drop my opinion although no one asked for  :)

+1 See no real reason of punishing a user too. Especially because he asked if he can take part in the campaign with a specific badge, before entering.
Exactly! You clearly recognized my main point - why this user even considered as a cheater by forum moderation if he asked the BM to join the campaign and he was allowed by BM!

It sounds like what you are suggesting is that the relevant BM should be the only ones to propose a hunter is a cheater, then the tag could be authorized by Judges after review?
This would make more sense to me. It's also similar to how cheaters used to get warned: it required a BM application, followed by a GM reviewing it and warning users...

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Re: Cheater on Non Fungible Defi (NFD) signature campaign
« Reply #42 on: July 15, 2021, 06:56:14 PM »
Let me drop my opinion although no one asked for  :)

+1 See no real reason of punishing a user too. Especially because he asked if he can take part in the campaign with a specific badge, before entering.
Exactly! You clearly recognized my main point - why this user even considered as a cheater by forum moderation if he asked the BM to join the campaign and he was allowed by BM!

No matter what you think about whole case (there are some things I disagree with from all the parties), but it is not a cheating and surely not a scam in my opinion.

Probably this user must lose his special badge (he already did and even this doubtful, why he even received the badge initially, if he deserves it - nothing changed by that case) and he can be removed from campaign by its manager, but that's all.

Good point. Also the forum is consider as a friendly environment as of now which should be considerate but will not tolerate abusive offense.. I don't know if we'll change someday or maybe today.. :D ;D

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Re: Cheater on Non Fungible Defi (NFD) signature campaign
« Reply #43 on: July 16, 2021, 02:13:32 AM »
I appreciate many opinions in this thread, I read one by one. 
Well, bubbalex as ex BM gave suggestion and opinion about participant of bounty, It's good point.
I agree it all depends on BM to decide. 
But cheating starts with intention.

If we allow the fraud to occur after being warned by the judge,
Maybe there shouldn't be a judge in this forum.
It's useless if you ignore them:)
 
The law is supreme commander, there is no friendly forum excuse for any fraudulent actions.

Why are you  just discussing  bounty hunter, you didn't talk about GM who helps and support cheating and deleted POA ?
I want to know your opinion, bubbalex and  jokers.

That's not fair, only talk about the perpetrator and turn a blind eye to the person who helps the perpetrator.

I think you as a senator should make clear rules about cheaters, scammers or innocent people.

Sorry, If my sugestions will hurt anyone here, it's just my suggestion as low rank member here
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Re: Cheater on Non Fungible Defi (NFD) signature campaign
« Reply #44 on: July 16, 2021, 09:02:53 AM »
Why are you  just discussing  bounty hunter, you didn't talk about GM who helps and support cheating and deleted POA ?
I want to know your opinion, bubbalex and  jokers.

As I see no cheating because the discussed someone asked if he can take part in campaign with a special conditions before entering how can there be a support of cheating which was not? What was a cheating? Whom was cheated?

If we allow the fraud to occur after being warned by the judge,
Maybe there shouldn't be a judge in this forum.
It's useless if you ignore them:)
 
Sorry, If my sugestions will hurt anyone here, it's just my suggestion as low rank member here
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Manipulating is a bad supporter in discussions. It's better to give more facts if you have them. Naming judges as useless or hinting on possible bias based on rank system is not friendly. ;)
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