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Does this also happen to you on the Coinomize Onion URL?
If you use the Tor Browser in addition to your slow internet connection, it can be very slow for you.

I know that it is going to be slow when I used Tor Browser when trying to mix, so I just used the clearnet version. And it's intermittent though, sometimes when I used Tor to browse the forum, it's fast, but most of the time, it takes at least a minute to load everything.

The forum is actually very simply programmed and consists only of text and should actually load quickly.
But if the forum is already slow you have a really slow connection ;)
I agree to you but if someone's visiting a TOR link, there is a tendency that the website might really load slower. But checking it out with coinomize, I had no issues at all and it loads smoothly.

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It seems convincing and gives the impression that it will be able to be used by users for a long time. Are there plans to take further steps towards further development of the site?

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That's one drawback of using Tor browser though, it is going to slow down your connection. And that is the price that you have to pay for compare to using traditional browser or clear net.
You don't need super fast speed always, and sometimes it's better to slow things down when you want to improve privacy.
I wouldn't recommend Tor browser for watching videos or mutlitasking, but it is very good for reading forums and doing basic browsing stuff.

We could connect the onion url but you would need an external Tor connection for that.
You should add that as optional feature, but I don't think it would be so hard to base your app on Tor browser.

In my country, using TOR (without VPN) is not recommended.   Even though the ISP cannot decrypt this traffic (when using TOR), the very fact of using a software tool like TOR is considered a negative point.  Theoretically, the Internet provider can report this fact to law enforcement agencies (as a suspicious fact).   There are precedents for people being considered criminals simply because they used TOR.  However, they did not commit crimes.  Unfortunately, our world is becoming very unfree.
In my country people prefer to use VPN rather than TOR.  Since the Coinomize.biz mixer site does not work with all VPNs (the project representative clarified this point), it becomes important to choose a VPN that will allow you to visit this site without any problems.

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That's one drawback of using Tor browser though, it is going to slow down your connection. And that is the price that you have to pay for compare to using traditional browser or clear net.
You don't need super fast speed always, and sometimes it's better to slow things down when you want to improve privacy.
I wouldn't recommend Tor browser for watching videos or mutlitasking, but it is very good for reading forums and doing basic browsing stuff.

We could connect the onion url but you would need an external Tor connection for that.
You should add that as optional feature, but I don't think it would be so hard to base your app on Tor browser.

In my country, using TOR (without VPN) is not recommended.   Even though the ISP cannot decrypt this traffic (when using TOR), the very fact of using a software tool like TOR is considered a negative point.  Theoretically, the Internet provider can report this fact to law enforcement agencies (as a suspicious fact).   There are precedents for people being considered criminals simply because they used TOR.  However, they did not commit crimes.  Unfortunately, our world is becoming very unfree.
In my country people prefer to use VPN rather than TOR.  Since the Coinomize.biz mixer site does not work with all VPNs (the project representative clarified this point), it becomes important to choose a VPN that will allow you to visit this site without any problems.
Since you said that in your country, you can only use TOR with VPN, to avoid the raise of eye browns don't you think that if you don't get the right VPN will give you access to Coinomiz.biz site, it will be better for you to use the VPN that supports TOR so that you can from TOR have access to the site. What do you think?

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In my country, using TOR (without VPN) is not recommended.   Even though the ISP cannot decrypt this traffic (when using TOR), the very fact of using a software tool like TOR is considered a negative point.
Tor and VPN should never be used together in the same time!
If your country is not allowing usage of Tor than it would be even worse with VPN, that is why some countries made laws against usage of VPN.
They can easily identify that you are using VPN in the same way like they can identify you are using Tor.
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In my country, using TOR (without VPN) is not recommended.   Even though the ISP cannot decrypt this traffic (when using TOR), the very fact of using a software tool like TOR is considered a negative point.
Tor and VPN should never be used together in the same time!

I can't imagine how slow this could be, especially if one of the free VPNs is used.
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I can't imagine how slow this could be, especially if one of the free VPNs is used.
Speed is not the main issue here, but compromised privacy is.
Some applications also won't work at all with both Tor and VPN, but that is a different story.
Even on official Tor website they are recommending Tor browser not to be used together with VPN except for advanced users who know how to configure everything properly.
https://support.torproject.org/faq/faq-5/

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I can't imagine how slow this could be, especially if one of the free VPNs is used.

You can try and change circuits if it's way too slow, I'm usually browsing with just 3 relay points and despite one being on a different continent it's still acceptable, even with one extra VPN it can't slow that much, it's just that we got used to instant loading of pages, I remember the times when a webproxy was all you could have normally and you would pay to load the full page correctly.  ;)


Even on official Tor website they are recommending Tor browser not to be used together with VPN except for advanced users who know how to configure everything properly.
https://support.torproject.org/faq/faq-5/

The setup is for a self hosted VPN, the trusting is for a purchased VPN when you can't trust your VPN, there are different combinations , some bad, some better:
https://gitlab.torproject.org/legacy/trac/-/wikis/doc/TorPlusVPN

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In my country, using TOR (without VPN) is not recommended.   Even though the ISP cannot decrypt this traffic (when using TOR), the very fact of using a software tool like TOR is considered a negative point.  Theoretically, the Internet provider can report this fact to law enforcement agencies (as a suspicious fact).   There are precedents for people being considered criminals simply because they used TOR.  However, they did not commit crimes.  Unfortunately, our world is becoming very unfree.
I still don't understand why it is considered as a negative point?  :-\
As far as I know, TOR is legal. However, if it has a problem, you can use another browser or network.
Anyway, I assume it is considered criminal because it offers online privacy. Everything offers privacy will be considered bad thing for the government. CMIIW

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/t/tor.asp

In my country people prefer to use VPN rather than TOR.  Since the Coinomize.biz mixer site does not work with all VPNs (the project representative clarified this point), it becomes important to choose a VPN that will allow you to visit this site without any problems.
It should paid VPN, not free VPN.
If you used free VPN, the features will be very limited. I may not allow to access Coinomize site.


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That's one drawback of using Tor browser though, it is going to slow down your connection. And that is the price that you have to pay for compare to using traditional browser or clear net.
You don't need super fast speed always, and sometimes it's better to slow things down when you want to improve privacy.
I wouldn't recommend Tor browser for watching videos or mutlitasking, but it is very good for reading forums and doing basic browsing stuff.

We could connect the onion url but you would need an external Tor connection for that.
You should add that as optional feature, but I don't think it would be so hard to base your app on Tor browser.

In my country, using TOR (without VPN) is not recommended.   Even though the ISP cannot decrypt this traffic (when using TOR), the very fact of using a software tool like TOR is considered a negative point.  Theoretically, the Internet provider can report this fact to law enforcement agencies (as a suspicious fact).   There are precedents for people being considered criminals simply because they used TOR.  However, they did not commit crimes.  Unfortunately, our world is becoming very unfree.
In my country people prefer to use VPN rather than TOR.  Since the Coinomize.biz mixer site does not work with all VPNs (the project representative clarified this point), it becomes important to choose a VPN that will allow you to visit this site without any problems.

It just weird though that you said that, I mean we can freely used TOR as far as I know even without VPN. That's what I did, although again as discussed, it might be slow but that's good enough as least your remain private.

And I do agree that it should not be free VPN, it should be paid and it's quite cheap as well, even higher tier VPN.

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In my country, using TOR (without VPN) is not recommended.   Even though the ISP cannot decrypt this traffic (when using TOR), the very fact of using a software tool like TOR is considered a negative point.  Theoretically, the Internet provider can report this fact to law enforcement agencies (as a suspicious fact).   There are precedents for people being considered criminals simply because they used TOR.  However, they did not commit crimes.  Unfortunately, our world is becoming very unfree.

Then you need to use Tor bridges because they are designed exactly for situations like this.

You see, the regular Tor network works fine most of the times. But if your ISP is blocking or incriminating Tor use, you can connect to a bridge. These bridges impersonate as some other kind of traffic, like Microsoft traffic or AWS traffic, and then that is all the ISP will be able to see. They will no longer be able to know the fact that you connected to Tor.
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It just weird though that you said that, I mean we can freely used TOR as far as I know even without VPN. That's what I did, although again as discussed, it might be slow but that's good enough as least your remain private.
Agree. I think it is unnecessary to use VPN if we use TOR. TOR facilitates the privacy, why we must use VPN? If TOR isn't forbidden in our country, we can use it for free without VPN. But if it is not allowed, it is better to choose another one. If it is possible to use any kind of browsers, we don't need to feel confused about TOR.

And I do agree that it should not be free VPN, it should be paid and it's quite cheap as well, even higher tier VPN.
Free VPN are not secure. It may bring a problem to our accounts, it also can become a medium for spreading viruses or scams. Yes, paid VPN is cheap enough. Why we must use free VPN? There are too many paid VPN with affordable prices.


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It seems convincing and gives the impression that it will be able to be used by users for a long time. Are there plans to take further steps towards further development of the site?

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You have the option to enter a Coinomize code, I assume that the purpose is so that the user does not get the same coins from an earlier mixing. I assume that somewhere you must have a record that a specific Coinomize code is related to some BTC address.
However, you further claim that you never keep any log of the mixing process, nor any information (IP or Bitcoin address). Can you explain how this works, it seems a bit illogical.

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What logs are kept by Coinomize?
We do not store any logs of your transaction, not even your IP or Bitcoin addresses. We delete all orders after 24-72 hours (Depending on choosen delay time.), but you can also delete it yourself. Please always download the Letter of Guarantee for later questions.
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