Between karma and points which one is better

[SamReomo]

This is an unexpected event for most of us that the mixer's campaign has brought here.

Yes, I highly agree with you, many members who are new on this forum try their best to rank up as soon as they possibly can by making so many posts on daily basis. I believe if the members who are making very good quality, helpful posts then there's nothing wrong even if they can rank in a few days to be eligible for the signature campaigns.

But if they create more posts which're more like spam posts then that's not a good thing and I believe in such case, it's far better have some karma requirement for ranking up. That way only those members who can earn some good amount of karma by creating helpful posts may get rank up, and such users would be helpful participants for signature campaigns if we see the positive side of the picture.

[Husna QA]

-snip- it's far better have some karma requirement for ranking up. That way only those members who can earn some good amount of karma by creating helpful posts may get rank up, -snip-

In the past (2018), Admin used karma as one of the conditions for reaching Sr. Member rank and above. Its function is similar to the merit system on Bitcointalk.

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We will adopt 2 strategies to increasing difficulties:

1- Post count: all ranks above Jnr member, will gradually increase the post requirement, this will never stop, but we will not apply huge post incrementation at a time. This will be continual, pushing the members to continuous contributions, adaptation and evolution. We call this The Red Queen effect.

2- Time & Karma requirements: time requirement will be introduced at one stage, it will limit the ranking up to 1-3 ranks per month.
Karma requirement will be applied only for Snr ranks and above /it is a merit system that would help the best members to reach the top positions.

However, if we refer to the new rank system: Everything You Need To Know About Forum Ranks.
It seems that the karma requirements for Snr rank and above are not clearly stated even though Admin said there:

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Other factors will also be required for ranks: Karma , activity, time ...

[DabsPoorVersion]

This is an unexpected event for most of us that the mixer's campaign has brought here.

Yes, I highly agree with you, many members who are new on this forum try their best to rank up as soon as they possibly can by making so many posts on daily basis. I believe if the members who are making very good quality, helpful posts then there's nothing wrong even if they can rank in a few days to be eligible for the signature campaigns.

But if they create more posts which're more like spam posts then that's not a good thing and I believe in such case, it's far better have some karma requirement for ranking up. That way only those members who can earn some good amount of karma by creating helpful posts may get rank up, and such users would be helpful participants for signature campaigns if we see the positive side of the picture.

But the thing is, what this community got from those new users is mostly plagiarism or AI-generated text which is not welcome. Instead of having a more user who can contribute to this forum, more work especially for moderators to take action regarding their violations.

That's true, having a karma requirement will somehow solve the issue but we should expect the upcoming problems such as abuse in karma, and so on. So, the admin and moderators might have more work (but for the better). I know they have countermeasures with these problems, but yeah, it's a load of work.

[SamReomo]

But the thing is, what this community got from those new users is mostly plagiarism or AI-generated text which is not welcome.

Yes, that's very true, most of the new members haven't brought any good information to this forum other than those AI generated content and plagiarized content, but some of those new members have been doing very well on this forum and they have ranked to Sr rank within few months.

That's true, having a karma requirement will somehow solve the issue but we should expect the upcoming problems such as abuse in karma, and so on.

Yes, karma requirements will most probably solve the issues that we may face with those new users but it's also true that karma could be abused in a bad way. But, as far as I remember, only those members can send karma who are Sr+ in rank, and that somehow reduces the manipulation to some good extent.

[Learn Bitcoin]

If you compare Karma with Points, I consider Karma to be most valuable. The more karma a user has, the more valuable and quality content they share. Because any member can earn points by writing content or even by generating spam. But if someone wants to earn karma, they have to write quality content. I know there are other ways like reporting posts that are spam, AI-generated or plagiarism can also earn Karma. But, still, I think karma is better than the points. In the future, campaign managers may require you to have karma to be eligible to join a campaign. It should gives you a hint about how valuable the karma is.