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Request for an official ban for the user Dushanya
« on: April 15, 2021, 07:11:12 PM »
I've blocked user Dushanya (@Artanovskaya)
https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;area=summary;u=40170
for fraud, blackmail, extortion, theft of funds in the Free TON project.
She stole 90K TON (~$54K).

Unfortunately, it's true, later I will give a link to the official information from the Free TON project. An investigation is underway.

I am requesting an official ban for this user - after providing links to the results of the investigation. They will be there in a few days.

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Request for an official ban for the user Dushanya
« on: April 15, 2021, 07:11:12 PM »

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Re: Request for an official ban for the user Dushanya
« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2021, 09:16:06 PM »
Based on the Senator's accusation, I support this ban.

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Re: Request for an official ban for the user Dushanya
« Reply #2 on: April 15, 2021, 09:42:48 PM »
Based on the Senator's accusation, I support this ban.

If she is guilty I agree, but I think we need to wait for the result of the investigation.
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Re: Request for an official ban for the user Dushanya
« Reply #3 on: April 15, 2021, 09:47:03 PM »
Based on the Senator's accusation, I support this ban.

If she is guilty I agree, but I think we need to wait for the result of the investigation.

That's why you're a Judge  :)

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Re: Request for an official ban for the user Dushanya
« Reply #4 on: April 15, 2021, 10:46:02 PM »
If she is guilty I agree, but I think we need to wait for the result of the investigation.
Yep. There should be an investigation first. And we need valid proofs.
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Re: Request for an official ban for the user Dushanya
« Reply #5 on: April 15, 2021, 11:25:23 PM »
Based on the Senator's accusation, I support this ban.

If she is guilty I agree, but I think we need to wait for the result of the investigation.
agree on this point
i am not sure how we should approach this issue
as it is setting a precedent
the accused have taken an action outside the forum,

thus as i suggested to heyod we will need the widest debate on this issue, hopefully also get the results of investigation
and ideally allow the accused to express his/her point

then another issue, is what appropriate action should be given, what btt do in these cases usually ?
a lot of discussion is needed, because as i said, this is setting a precedent .
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Re: Request for an official ban for the user Dushanya
« Reply #6 on: April 16, 2021, 11:25:16 AM »
Pls pay your attention, she has already changed the username on the forum:

https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=40170#

And these are links to other forums, where her topics are also banned:
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Re: Request for an official ban for the user Dushanya
« Reply #6 on: April 16, 2021, 11:25:16 AM »


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Re: Request for an official ban for the user Dushanya
« Reply #7 on: April 16, 2021, 06:55:43 PM »
Pls pay your attention, she has already changed the username on the forum:

https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=40170#

And these are links to other forums, where her topics are also banned:
https://no link to CT/topic/24977-iotex-a-decentralized-network-for-internet-of-trusted-things/page/6/
https://no link to CT/topic/24981-iotex-%D0%B4%D0%B5%D1%86%D0%B5%D0%BD%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%B7%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%8F-%D1%81%D0%B5%D1%82%D1%8C-%D0%B4%D0%BB%D1%8F-%D0%B8%D0%BD%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%BD%D0%B5%D1%82%D0%B0-%D0%B4%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%BD%D1%8B%D1%85-%D0%B2%D0%B5%D1%89%D0%B5%D0%B9/page/12/



But I still don't see any proof.
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Re: Request for an official ban for the user Dushanya
« Reply #8 on: April 16, 2021, 08:02:32 PM »
Pls pay your attention, she has already changed the username on the forum:

https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=40170#

And these are links to other forums, where her topics are also banned:
https://no link to CT/topic/24977-iotex-a-decentralized-network-for-internet-of-trusted-things/page/6/
https://no link to CT/topic/24981-iotex-%D0%B4%D0%B5%D1%86%D0%B5%D0%BD%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%B7%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%8F-%D1%81%D0%B5%D1%82%D1%8C-%D0%B4%D0%BB%D1%8F-%D0%B8%D0%BD%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%BD%D0%B5%D1%82%D0%B0-%D0%B4%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%BD%D1%8B%D1%85-%D0%B2%D0%B5%D1%89%D0%B5%D0%B9/page/12/



But I still don't see any proof.

the fact that she changed the name is a hint that she is indeed guilty, but probably best would be to wait for the ton investigation, if they could bring the results of  investig to court that would be ideal,
i would suggest to create a special rank allowing her to answer accusations while being labeled as a an accused
the judges then decide on punishment

should we adopt ban (even if it's done somewhere else) or a special tag to warn users (a bit like the trust system in btt)
At your service.

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Re: Request for an official ban for the user Dushanya
« Reply #9 on: April 16, 2021, 10:28:00 PM »
Pls pay your attention, she has already changed the username on the forum:

https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=40170#

And these are links to other forums, where her topics are also banned:
https://no link to CT/topic/24977-iotex-a-decentralized-network-for-internet-of-trusted-things/page/6/
https://no link to CT/topic/24981-iotex-%D0%B4%D0%B5%D1%86%D0%B5%D0%BD%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%B7%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%8F-%D1%81%D0%B5%D1%82%D1%8C-%D0%B4%D0%BB%D1%8F-%D0%B8%D0%BD%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%BD%D0%B5%D1%82%D0%B0-%D0%B4%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%BD%D1%8B%D1%85-%D0%B2%D0%B5%D1%89%D0%B5%D0%B9/page/12/



But I still don't see any proof.

the fact that she changed the name is a hint that she is indeed guilty, but probably best would be to wait for the ton investigation, if they could bring the results of  investig to court that would be ideal,
i would suggest to create a special rank allowing her to answer accusations while being labeled as a an accused
the judges then decide on punishment

should we adopt ban (even if it's done somewhere else) or a special tag to warn users (a bit like the trust system in btt)

Best to wait for sure as mnixxo said, proof is still required here for judgement.
As you said, if guilty then special tag might be better. Incommunicado comes to mind, has been a while. With guilty tag, ban from posting in bounties, marketplace and advertising might be more appropriate than complete ban? Ban from trading seems to be what's required at least.
It's up to the judges, but the possibilities are endless... I'd like to think.
Tag for accused seems appropriate for time being, accusations come from strong sources it seems.

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Re: Request for an official ban for the user Dushanya
« Reply #10 on: April 16, 2021, 11:15:17 PM »
Pls pay your attention, she has already changed the username on the forum
Change the name is something usual in the forum. There is no specific correlation to the case.
Also, it isn't the strong proof to ban someone, mate. There should be some stronger proofs.

these are links to other forums, where her topics are also banned
Cannot see if it is a valid proof for this case.

should we adopt ban (even if it's done somewhere else) or a special tag to warn users (a bit like the trust system in btt)
If the purpose to warn users, give "a special tag" seems more appropriate to apply on this case.
If we ban her, most members probably do not know this case.
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Re: Request for an official ban for the user Dushanya
« Reply #11 on: April 18, 2021, 12:14:24 PM »
The theft investigation is ongoing, and the MainGovernance of the Free TON project is currently busy with it.

As an indirect confirmation, I give a link to the proposal for solving the problem of payments to contest winners and the jury.

https://forum.freeton.org/t/payouts-for-influencers-subgovernance-proposal/10060
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Re: Request for an official ban for the user Dushanya
« Reply #12 on: April 18, 2021, 01:46:52 PM »
The theft investigation is ongoing, and the MainGovernance of the Free TON project is currently busy with it.

As an indirect confirmation, I give a link to the proposal for solving the problem of payments to contest winners and the jury.

https://forum.freeton.org/t/payouts-for-influencers-subgovernance-proposal/10060

Artanovskaya at the freeton forum is Dushanaya here? thanks
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Re: Request for an official ban for the user Dushanya
« Reply #13 on: April 18, 2021, 04:32:29 PM »
The theft investigation is ongoing, and the MainGovernance of the Free TON project is currently busy with it.

As an indirect confirmation, I give a link to the proposal for solving the problem of payments to contest winners and the jury.

https://forum.freeton.org/t/payouts-for-influencers-subgovernance-proposal/10060

Artanovskaya at the freeton forum is Dushanaya here? thanks
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Re: Request for an official ban for the user Dushanya
« Reply #14 on: April 18, 2021, 07:54:59 PM »
Here is a comment from the person who is a member of the MainGov and one of the founders of the project.
This is quite strong evidence of the fact of the theft of funds by Daria Artanovskaya aka Dushanya.

"This is of course very bad news, and Daria turned out to be little more than a thief, a lowlife, and basically just a street level criminal that deserves zero respect. This is typical behavior for someone absolutely incapable of professionalism or creating anything of value based on any talent or wits, but instead resorts to theft as the only means to find “success”. Essentially a talentless, valueless person who wouldn’t be qualified do much more than clean bus station bathrooms were it not for her affinity to steal. Not a person who would get anywhere in civilized society. Quite a disgusting character. She and whoever helped her. Pathetic people. I feel sorry for individuals like this. They have no future.

That being said, this of course should rectified. It’s not the contestants’ faults. They just did what they were supposed to do. It should go to a vote to global gov and be remedied.

But I personally do have very serious concerns about this subgov (as well as a few others). There needs to be a very diverse group of people who are responsible for the multisig.

In summary, the contestants must get their tokens. The subgov needs to be frozen until it is thoroughly reformed and properly structured. This is now the 2nd Ambassador-like subgov that has proven to be severely flawed."

https://forum.freeton.org/t/payouts-for-influencers-subgovernance-proposal/10060/67?u=heyod
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