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Title: Should Bitcoin be an investment or store of value?
Post by: MrSpasybo on October 27, 2020, 10:28:02 PM
"On a risk-adjusted basis, BTC is an easier bet today than it has ever been," Novogratz said in an Oct. 27 tweet. "It’s being de-risked daily."

"Adjusted by its volatility, Bitcoin has presented the best return in one or two years against all other asset classes," Cointelegraph markets contributor Marcel Pechman said when asked to weigh in on Novogratz tweet. "Few investors expect gold to rally 60%, but it never went below -8% so the Sharpe index adjusts returns based on volatility.”

"I don't think Bitcoin is going to be used as a transactional currency any time in the next five years," Novogratz said in an interview with Bloomberg TV, posted on Oct. 23. "Bitcoin is being used as a store of value," he added. "People are worried that the central banks around the world are debasing fiat currencies."


Article: Bitcoin becoming less-risky as an investment, Novogratz says (https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-becoming-less-risky-as-an-investment-novogratz-says)

What do you think about the idea that Bitcoin would be more suitable for the role of a low-risk investment or a store of value for the owner? Is this contrary to Satoshi Nakamoto's expectations of Bitcoin? And can Bitcoin trust its mission to be transferred to altcoins?
Title: Re: Should Bitcoin be an investment or store of value?
Post by: Emmanuel Christopher on October 28, 2020, 02:44:20 AM
For me I would say bitcoin should be an investment not store of value, because it's price is volatile and the volatility in price makes it beneficial when it's used as an investment which is buy low and sell high, but if it's used as store value then the value is at risk because the price isn't stable it might fall down and this will lead to loose of value.
Title: Re: Should Bitcoin be an investment or store of value?
Post by: Quantum X on October 28, 2020, 03:22:16 AM
I think whatever opinion had been and to be said by others that will always just be an opinion as long as bitcoin remain decentralized. Well, what is important in this matter we all enjoying benefits.
Title: Re: Should Bitcoin be an investment or store of value?
Post by: TomPluz on October 28, 2020, 03:49:34 AM


As for me, it is both an investment and store of value. Now, which side is getting prominence can be dependent on each individual and his view of mind. Bitcoin can be a good investment and can be a store of value, notwithstanding its volatility. Well, in my opinion, the reason why people keep on talking these two important features of bitcoin is because maybe we wanted to be sure that Bitcoin really lives up to whatever we wanted it to be. With the vision of Satoshi Nakamoto, we have to remember that there is nothing in this world that will really stick strictly to the way it should be because once a certain entity or a thing is tested in the real world that can be where idealism meets realities.
Title: Re: Should Bitcoin be an investment or store of value?
Post by: mohdelayo on October 28, 2020, 03:57:24 PM
I will take it that BTC is both an investment instrument and a store of value. In anyway its been looked at, BTC has a lot of advantages both as an investment and a store of value for the global community.
Title: Re: Should Bitcoin be an investment or store of value?
Post by: edmundo on October 28, 2020, 07:47:55 PM
From my understanding, Bitcoin is both depending on how you view it. It could be a store of value should you intend to leave your holdings in Bitcoin by converting all assets to bitcoin. It could also become an investment should you decide to either trade bitcoin for profits or just holding it with the hope that it appreciates in value. So, for whatsoever you need it to be, it depends on you completely.
Title: Re: Should Bitcoin be an investment or store of value?
Post by: Thymoty on October 28, 2020, 08:38:35 PM
I think that bitcoin is better to be an investment asset than storing it in a wallet. The reason is that the price of bitcoin is very volatile and at any time the price may drop to its lowest point.
Title: Re: Should Bitcoin be an investment or store of value?
Post by: I-Bit on October 28, 2020, 11:32:36 PM
How is about both of them? Bitcoin can be  a very legit and worthy investment, both for the long term and also short term investment. BTC also has great value for daily trading. It is said also that BTC becomes a good store value as a precious thing to have
Title: Re: Should Bitcoin be an investment or store of value?
Post by: Vx1 on October 28, 2020, 11:38:19 PM
Bitcoin has a very fluctuating price, I think this is an advantage for everyone who wants to invest in Bitcoin.  Because we can buy Bitcoin when the price goes down and hold it until the price goes up and then sell it. I think Bitcoin is very worthy to be made an investment, but we have to be patient when the price goes down and keep waiting until the price goes up before selling it.
Title: Re: Should Bitcoin be an investment or store of value?
Post by: Arendra on October 29, 2020, 12:32:07 AM
Since bitcoin has indeed emerged as the first coin to dominate the market, it's no wonder that almost all altcoins refer to habitat coins. so is sathosi. And I think this bitcoin will also open up opportunities to collaborate with altcoins. because they complement each other.
Title: Re: Should Bitcoin be an investment or store of value?
Post by: IvugeoEvolutionCoin on October 29, 2020, 04:58:45 AM
bitcoin should be used for both because when many use it it will have a good impact on price movements which will increase and become expensive.
Title: Re: Should Bitcoin be an investment or store of value?
Post by: Legion on October 29, 2020, 07:24:44 AM
bitcoin should be used for both because when many use it it will have a good impact on price movements which will increase and become expensive.
I totally agree with what you said.
Title: Re: Should Bitcoin be an investment or store of value?
Post by: wawan96 on October 29, 2020, 08:32:12 AM
bitcoin is very useful for investment because its value and the very active price is not appropriate as a huge storage of money because if the price drops drastically the bitcoin that is owned will also decrease its selling value, therefore bitcoin investment is not suitable for investors who want to need fast money no stable value, therefore, bitcoin is the right investment place.
Title: Re: Should Bitcoin be an investment or store of value?
Post by: KKH84 on October 29, 2020, 09:09:20 AM
I tend to agree that Bitcoin is a temporary investment rather than a store of value, because of the many factors that influence it, maybe in the future if the price of bitcoin can be stable, people will buy bitcoin by itself for investment.
Title: Re: Should Bitcoin be an investment or store of value?
Post by: CriptoLH on October 29, 2020, 11:21:12 AM
Bitcoin is the first cryptocurrency and its value will only grow over time. Therefore, I consider it both as an investment in longevity and as a speculative tool for trading on the exchange due to its volitionality.
Title: Re: Should Bitcoin be an investment or store of value?
Post by: expander on October 29, 2020, 02:14:10 PM
Currently bitcoin has become the only transferable coin of all altcoins. In fact, all altcoins can also be exchanged for Bitcoin. This of course shows that bitcoin is indeed the king of coins. Investing in bitcoin has also been known to be less risky than altcoins.
Title: Re: Should Bitcoin be an investment or store of value?
Post by: Hope4life on October 29, 2020, 03:18:57 PM
Bitcoin has high volatility, so many people use it for investment because of its fast changing value, therefore it is more suitable as a low-risk investment. It seems difficult for bitcoin to be used as a transaction tool because there are other cryptocurrenies that offer transactions that are faster, cheaper, and prices tend to be stable.
Title: Re: Should Bitcoin be an investment or store of value?
Post by: svetlana on October 29, 2020, 09:37:19 PM
Bitcoin is equated to gold in the world of paper money. It has a huge amount of money invested in it and is more reliable than altcoins, but at the moment, Bitcoin is just an investment.
Title: Re: Should Bitcoin be an investment or store of value?
Post by: sampoerna on October 29, 2020, 09:46:33 PM
The main goal of Bitcoin is about being an electric currency. But we know that it is still not used as a payment tool in all countries in the world. However, it is no problem if Bitcoin to be a digital asset, it is also cool and attract people to know Bitcoin deeper. Maybe someday in the future that Bitcoin is legalized as the world's currency.
Title: Re: Should Bitcoin be an investment or store of value?
Post by: hushpupppy on October 29, 2020, 10:29:26 PM
To a certain extent i think it all depends on the mindset of each and every individual. But on a normal level, as a trained and qualified trader; you would understand that bitcoin cannot be a store of value because of its high volatility; instead bitcoin is an investment avenue or venture.

If you seek a store of value; then you can look towards gold or stable coins; who retain value over a long period of time. But with bitcoin there are several uncertaintities.

Bitcoin can be $13k today and $10k tomorrow; do what suits you but always do your own research.
Title: Re: Should Bitcoin be an investment or store of value?
Post by: Quart on October 29, 2020, 10:44:56 PM
For me personally, I will prefer using Bitcoin as a very good investment, long and short investment is accepted. And what do you think of store value? As long as we kept it and it can be one of the ways, we may not worry whether it is for investment or stock value. At least, this is very trusted and also worthy to have
Title: Re: Should Bitcoin be an investment or store of value?
Post by: Prime on October 29, 2020, 10:59:40 PM
To be a digital asset for investment isn't bad, I think it is good enough. Bitcoin shouldn't be a currency, being a digital asset for investment is already a good achievement in my opinion. We need a crypto coin like Bitcoin to be a great asset. It has big volatility, it has risks, but it has a big potential for bigger profits.
Title: Re: Should Bitcoin be an investment or store of value?
Post by: mohdelayo on October 30, 2020, 12:40:09 PM
How is about both of them? Bitcoin can be  a very legit and worthy investment, both for the long term and also short term investment. BTC also has great value for daily trading. It is said also that BTC becomes a good store value as a precious thing to have

Nailed it mate, you hit your point right on the spot. I have the same opinion as you do.
Title: Re: Should Bitcoin be an investment or store of value?
Post by: tonymillions84 on October 30, 2020, 12:52:33 PM
i think it can serve both purpose. as an investment and also a store of value. long term aspect, it stands as a store of value. investment aspect, people can buy and hold for the future. as long as investment is all about making profit after a long term. it is recommended for people to invest and try bitcoin.
Title: Re: Should Bitcoin be an investment or store of value?
Post by: Black ID on October 30, 2020, 12:55:11 PM
Bitcoin is indeed the only coin that transfers and accepts transfers to all types of altcoins. And this is of course a positive for bitcoin itself. Many ordinary people say that bitcoin is too risky. But for crypto players of course they know that bitcoin is a coin that is quite stable and has great potential.
Title: Re: Should Bitcoin be an investment or store of value?
Post by: Altcoin1998$ on October 31, 2020, 03:00:54 AM
Bitcoin is the best online Crypto in the world cryptocurrency market and it already accepted cryptocurrency. Many devolved countries are using bitcoin as their transaction system. Many giantantic investors, insurance, institutions, organisations investing bitcoin. So i think bitcoin is the best investment platform.
Title: Re: Should Bitcoin be an investment or store of value?
Post by: LaZim on October 31, 2020, 09:25:57 AM
Currently bitcoin has become the only transferable coin of all altcoins. In fact, all altcoins can also be exchanged for Bitcoin. This of course shows that bitcoin is indeed the king of coins. Investing in bitcoin has also been known to be less risky than altcoins.
I have not made a transfer of coins in bitcoin for a long time, since transactions are expensive and transactions take a long time. Bitcoin can only be used as an accumulation. But you don't need to make purchases and sales through it.
Title: Re: Should Bitcoin be an investment or store of value?
Post by: Ghozrd on October 31, 2020, 09:33:13 AM
Satoshi Nakamoto's goal to make Bitcoin a digital currency has been realized, several countries have accepted payment using BTC and if one wants to own BTC for investment and compare it to gold, then he will receive high returns, because the more people want BTC, then the price these coins will go up quickly.
Title: Re: Should Bitcoin be an investment or store of value?
Post by: Crypto Guard on October 31, 2020, 02:34:41 PM
By being a risk-free investment, I think bitcoin will lose its trademark. However, it will indeed attract more and more people. In fact, it could be that eventually this bitcoin becomes legal. And I think that currently bitcoin is indeed a coin that can be exchanged for all types of altcoins.
Title: Re: Should Bitcoin be an investment or store of value?
Post by: Michael.sol on November 02, 2020, 06:00:42 AM
Both investment as well store are beneficial . If we have good amount of bitcoin then we can hold it trusted website who provide daily basis interst ( like freebitco.in ) . We can also used bitcoin for staking and mining purpose I also store some capital in bitcoin for a longer investment coin . I recommend holding is best for newbies .
Title: Re: Should Bitcoin be an investment or store of value?
Post by: Astra on November 02, 2020, 06:17:43 PM
Bitcoin was created primarily as a means of payment and an alternative to the current financial system of payments. Like any money, it can also serve as a store of value. Until now, bitcoin is not used properly as a means of payment and this can lead to tragic consequences in the future. As a result, bitcoin will become unreliable as a store of value over time. Without its widespread use as a means of payment, its other functions will fade over time.
Title: Re: Should Bitcoin be an investment or store of value?
Post by: hair on November 02, 2020, 06:50:06 PM
I prefer bitcoin to be an investment for the short and long term. bitcoin is unique, if the real world of bitcoin is gold
Title: Re: Should Bitcoin be an investment or store of value?
Post by: pelana vreo on November 03, 2020, 06:15:37 AM
Bitcoin for investment and store of value have in common, that when the price goes up, Bitcoin holders will get a profit.
However, if one day Bitcoin is recognized by all countries as a legal payment, then there will be many people using Bitcoin to invest from a store of value.
Title: Re: Should Bitcoin be an investment or store of value?
Post by: tervel on November 03, 2020, 07:26:05 AM
Bitcoin is many things to many people. Why people choose to own hold bitcoin depends on their circumstances and views of what bitcoin is today and what it could become in the future.
Title: Re: Should Bitcoin be an investment or store of value?
Post by: ranaprime on November 07, 2020, 06:02:12 AM
Yes, it is a good investment and store of value. From the early days of Bitcoin, proponents have made the case for the cryptocurrency being more akin to “digital gold” than simple digital currency. In recent years, this narrative has been echoed by many Bitcoin enthusiasts. The store of value thesis for Bitcoin argues that it’s  one of the soundest assets known to man. Proponents of the thesis believe that Bitcoin is the best way to store wealth such that it isn’t devalued over time.
Title: Re: Should Bitcoin be an investment or store of value?
Post by: Oxumare on November 07, 2020, 11:12:26 AM
Big companies look at cryptocurrencies as an investment.If the purpose of investment is to profit, we, as traders or bounty hunters, aim to profit.Let me tell you the projects that a company has invested in recently.
Jump Trading (US Company): BTC, COMP, KEEP, HXRO, NMR, OXT and high amount of MKR and SRM
Title: Re: Should Bitcoin be an investment or store of value?
Post by: Mexite on November 07, 2020, 12:28:42 PM
Bitcoin was conceived as a transactional currency without any central control but it has evolved both as an investment vehicle and store of value, especially for long term holders. I believe that as crypto get more acceptance by the wider population, the issue of sharp volatility will be reduced and BTC will be suitable for storing value.

But for now, it is used more as an investment instrument with the hope that the price will increase.
Title: Re: Should Bitcoin be an investment or store of value?
Post by: Sentinel on November 07, 2020, 02:09:08 PM
I myself made this bitcoin an investment asset. Because there is always an increase. especially if we are patient in hold. then the benefits will be much higher. The key is to be patient.
Title: Re: Should Bitcoin be an investment or store of value?
Post by: ShadowCrypto on November 07, 2020, 04:39:12 PM
Both, Gold is a store of value and can also be an investment, I don't see any problem by Bitcoin being both.
Some people want to earn in short term and see BTC as an investment, all good.
Title: Re: Should Bitcoin be an investment or store of value?
Post by: Paglamon on November 07, 2020, 05:19:20 PM
The value and prestige of Bitcoin has started to increase. Bitcoin is a wonder of the world. However, the coin is one of the best currencies. There is a lot of discussion and posting on the Bitcoin News Desk every day about the status of Bitcoin. Most users have the most speculation about Bitcoin. But I think it will improve day by day. Technologies will improve. Many new users will join the cryptocurrency market and various earning sites. As the popularity grows, so does the competition. So I think it won't take long for Bitcoin to improve.
Title: Re: Should Bitcoin be an investment or store of value?
Post by: Blue_sea on November 07, 2020, 06:35:02 PM
The current Bitcoin price is approximate $15000. It is huge amount and it has the potentiality to reach at $100000. So i can say that bitcoin an investment or store of value.
Title: Re: Should Bitcoin be an investment or store of value?
Post by: Thymoty on November 07, 2020, 06:49:11 PM
I also think that bitcoin should be used as an investment instrument rather than a store of value. Because we don't know for sure about the future of cryptocurrency. Moreover, the cryptocurrency market is currently very volatile, and as market participants we must be careful.
Title: Re: Should Bitcoin be an investment or store of value?
Post by: Tnoy30 on November 07, 2020, 06:51:41 PM
It is possible for users to buy Bitcoin to get a share of assets and profits. This can be a good thing for any type of user. If Bitcoin is saved, it will definitely increase in price in the future. The value and prestige of this currency worldwide is many times higher than all types of coins. So I think if the bitcoin currency is saved for the future then a large part of the profit can come. The probability of this can be understood by reviewing the opinions of various experts. A few of their comments suggest that Bitcoin is definitely a currency of value.
Title: Re: Should Bitcoin be an investment or store of value?
Post by: Riya143 on November 08, 2020, 11:13:21 AM
The value and investment of my bitcoin accelerates everyone. I think this is understandable from the point of view of any investor. He is going to make the same kind of investment. Investing on Bitcoin in the market is very important and valuable. Because Bitcoin is one of the most valuable currencies in the market. There is no need to renew this currency to any new investor. However, investors have a lot of knowledge about Bitcoin. So investors succeed by investing in Bitcoin. They are successful investors they mostly invest in bitcoin.
Title: Re: Should Bitcoin be an investment or store of value?
Post by: Gurujebs on November 08, 2020, 02:07:32 PM
There is a popular local saying "one man food is another man poison", that's what bitcoin is to some people. There are some people in this industry that will always buy BTC at every resistance. They don't just see as a store value to take profits on short term but as a future investment as better alternative to traditional instruments.
Personally, I invest and take profits when I fit and wait for another dip.
Title: Re: Should Bitcoin be an investment or store of value?
Post by: Lenipiw on November 08, 2020, 02:14:35 PM
Bitcoin is the right place to invest. Bitcoin is a great coin. Bitcoin is very important to save a lot of resources. One should not invest in coins that do not have a basic idea about the future of the projects. So here it is. So choosing the right place or saving resources in a safe place, increasing the amount of wealth, benefiting from that wealth, is possible only in Bitcoin. So Bitcoin is the right investment medium to keep assets in a safe place. Those resources, however, must be patient to plan. Then Bitcoin should be chosen as the right one to be profitable from the investment.
Title: Re: Should Bitcoin be an investment or store of value?
Post by: syedrasool2011 on November 08, 2020, 04:34:41 PM
Bitcoin has seen some major bullish price moves  in the past few day, the price has been consolidating between $15k moving up to $16k which is very profitable for investors generally. Additionally, Bitcoin has every likelihood of touching its previous record high of $24k  early 2021, and this is  the perfect time to get involved with trading crypto currencies due to its market volatility.
Title: Re: Should Bitcoin be an investment or store of value?
Post by: svetlana on November 08, 2020, 10:53:24 PM
What is the essential difference between an investment and a store of value? Both are primarily a store of value. And at the same time it is a means of additional income. Investing in bitcoin gives interest. But even a simple saving of bitcoin can periodically increase our funds when the price rises, we only need to sell on time and also buy bitcoin again on time, thereby fixing the profit.
Title: Re: Should Bitcoin be an investment or store of value?
Post by: Lordrift on November 09, 2020, 02:30:51 AM
Bitcoin may be the ideal coins for trading, but when it comes down to long term holding, bitcoins may not be suitable due to its market volatility.
Title: Re: Should Bitcoin be an investment or store of value?
Post by: ayatoslaw on November 09, 2020, 03:09:33 AM
What is the essential difference between an investment and a store of value? Both are primarily a store of value. And at the same time it is a means of additional income. Investing in bitcoin gives interest. But even a simple saving of bitcoin can periodically increase our funds when the price rises, we only need to sell on time and also buy bitcoin again on time, thereby fixing the profit.
Investment has the risk of loss while the store of value tends to have a fixed price or even increase,
When you get a profit it's because the price of bitcoin goes up. as long as you buy bitcoin when the bullish trend starts, and avoid buying bitcoin when the bullish trend ends because it will make your asset value decrease.
Title: Re: Should Bitcoin be an investment or store of value?
Post by: Tanimariya on November 09, 2020, 09:06:30 AM
Bitcoin is considered to be a very important currency for investment all over the world. Bitcoin is the largest investor in the world and investors in developed countries. Most transactions revolve around Bitcoin. So I think this popular cryptocurrency has a lot of prestige all over the world. Bitcoin is one of the most popular currencies in the world. So I think the bitcoin currency is at a much higher level for investment.
Title: Re: Should Bitcoin be an investment or store of value?
Post by: masterrex on November 09, 2020, 12:27:11 PM
IMHO, I think Bitcoin can be used in both function, as a form low-risk investment, and also a store of value at the same time, Base on Novogratz prediction is within five years, maybe he's right or maybe he's wrong. we cant determined it right, so let's wait for five long years to prove that if he's right, by the way, there's nothing wrong with that flip Bitcoin can do that because it was a product of a versatile technology so I'm sure Bitcoin can handle it.   
Title: Re: Should Bitcoin be an investment or store of value?
Post by: MRM on November 09, 2020, 06:00:24 PM
The most important thing in the cryptocurrency market is investing in Bitcoin. Many investors benefit more from Bitcoin. So the dignity of investing in Bitcoin is much higher. Profits are made by investing in Bitcoin. Because investing in Bitcoin is always successful. Bitcoin has a lot of dignity. As many investors or users as there are around the world are investing in Bitcoin. If one wants to invest successfully, one needs to invest in Bitcoin.
Title: Re: Should Bitcoin be an investment or store of value?
Post by: LaZim on November 09, 2020, 06:40:46 PM
Bitcoin has seen some major bullish price moves  in the past few day, the price has been consolidating between $15k moving up to $16k which is very profitable for investors generally. Additionally, Bitcoin has every likelihood of touching its previous record high of $24k  early 2021, and this is  the perfect time to get involved with trading crypto currencies due to its market volatility.
When there was the last bull rally in 2017, almost all altcoins showed hundreds and thousands of percent. Now only bitcoin is growing, and the rest is growing with it, but not as much as in 2017. If bitcoin is $ 20,000, many projects may become worthless.
Title: Re: Should Bitcoin be an investment or store of value?
Post by: Bobcrypto on November 09, 2020, 08:04:29 PM
Bitcoin shares both characteristics, as a store of value and an investment assets.
Bitcoin certainly shares most of the features of a store of value like gold. The number of units is finite, the network is decentralized enough to offer security to holders, and it can be used to hold and transfer value.
Bitcoin can be bought and used as a currency and is also a type of investment.
Title: Re: Should Bitcoin be an investment or store of value?
Post by: @chison on November 09, 2020, 08:37:56 PM
I take it to be a show of value. I walked into a friend that bought 10 bitcoin and never remembered about till recently. He has over 100k $ now. I see it that valued has been stored over the years.
Title: Re: Should Bitcoin be an investment or store of value?
Post by: Dociko on November 10, 2020, 10:54:24 AM
Bitcoin is a great coin for everyday use. A very valuable coin for sale for everyday business. It is possible to make a profit every day by investing in these coins. Because its market value is increasing every day, even if a little - and is likely to decrease. However, the value of bitcoin never decreases in the long run. So I think bitcoin is a great coin for investment all over the world.
Title: Re: Should Bitcoin be an investment or store of value?
Post by: bigcash2011 on November 10, 2020, 08:05:26 PM
Bitcoin has become so attractive as an investment over the years that now major financial managers and business houses are terming it as both the store of value as well as an asset class which makes bitcoin unique and most wanted investment asset.
Title: Re: Should Bitcoin be an investment or store of value?
Post by: LaZim on November 11, 2020, 12:08:15 PM
Bitcoin is an index of the entire market. After all, only bitcoin is sometimes talked about on Federal channels. This is the brand of the entire cryptocurrency. But not many people have the opportunity to have a whole bitcoin. For me, bitcoin is a means of accumulation and saving. I can use bitcoin to buy other cryptocurrencies.
Title: Re: Should Bitcoin be an investment or store of value?
Post by: TERMINO on November 11, 2020, 01:17:37 PM
I think both are useful. Actually, some are preferred to investment and some in store of value. Good decision to make Bitcoin as investment where most of us thinking the same that in the future Bitcoin will definitely increase since it was from bearish. Then investors can expect good profit when bitcoin bearish end.
Title: Re: Should Bitcoin be an investment or store of value?
Post by: Fenix on November 18, 2020, 06:20:40 PM
Bitcoin is an index of the entire market. After all, only bitcoin is sometimes talked about on Federal channels. This is the brand of the entire cryptocurrency. But not many people have the opportunity to have a whole bitcoin. For me, bitcoin is a means of accumulation and saving. I can use bitcoin to buy other cryptocurrencies.
Bitcoin was not created as a vehicle for investment or as a store of value.  It was primarily created as an alternative means of payment for the current financial system.  Unfortunately, bitcoin performs its main task very poorly.  As long as there is a great expectation of the rise in the price of bitcoin, it will be popular.  In this regard, an important stage is now coming for bitcoin.  In the next six months it should rise in price to no less than $ 100,000, otherwise it will not meet expectations.  What happens next, we'll see.
Title: Re: Should Bitcoin be an investment or store of value?
Post by: ShadowCrypto on November 19, 2020, 02:20:41 AM
I may still diversify my portfolio but I like to do it when BCH moons first
then I would do a 33/33/33 betwen BCH/ETH/BTC then I can't lose
and I won't have to keep up to date as much
cause my portfolio will be diversified and diversification defends against ignorance
Title: Re: Should Bitcoin be an investment or store of value?
Post by: Delgboke on November 19, 2020, 07:25:19 AM
Bitcoin as a store of value could be the best but how can it yield profits when is stored in a particular place, that means bitcoin can actually be seen as an investment not store of value but can be hold for longer period of time for better profits outcome.
Title: Re: Should Bitcoin be an investment or store of value?
Post by: tervel on November 19, 2020, 11:03:57 AM
There are a few basic things any currency has to fulfill. It has to be a store value. It has to be a method of transferring value. With Bitcoin, because it fluctuates so much, it’s not a particularly good store of value.
Title: Re: Should Bitcoin be an investment or store of value?
Post by: Alcor on November 25, 2021, 08:51:26 AM
Of course, bitcoin has not yet fulfilled its historical purpose - to be an alternative to the current payment system. So far, it is a vehicle for investment and a store of value. In general, bitcoin is now primarily used as a speculative profit-making tool. Moreover, the longer it will be used in this capacity, the less opportunity it will have as a means of payment.
Bitcoin does increase in value, but because of this, the risk of investing in it does not actually decrease, but rather increases. After all, investors will increasingly worry about the money they have invested.
Title: Re: Should Bitcoin be an investment or store of value?
Post by: LaZim on November 25, 2021, 01:19:11 PM
Bitcoin is an index of the entire market. After all, only bitcoin is sometimes talked about on Federal channels. This is the brand of the entire cryptocurrency. But not many people have the opportunity to have a whole bitcoin. For me, bitcoin is a means of accumulation and saving. I can use bitcoin to buy other cryptocurrencies.
Bitcoin was not created as a vehicle for investment or as a store of value.  It was primarily created as an alternative means of payment for the current financial system.  Unfortunately, bitcoin performs its main task very poorly.  As long as there is a great expectation of the rise in the price of bitcoin, it will be popular.  In this regard, an important stage is now coming for bitcoin.  In the next six months it should rise in price to no less than $ 100,000, otherwise it will not meet expectations.  What happens next, we'll see.
Satoshi Nakamoto or a group of people who created bitcoin may not even have expected such success. He was the first, but not the only one. Now there are blockchains faster and cheaper, but bitcoin is still a brand of this market. It will never be a means of payment, but it is suitable for accumulation and investment.
Title: Re: Should Bitcoin be an investment or store of value?
Post by: Ankit1999999 on November 25, 2021, 07:08:27 PM
You can see last 3 years price in bitcoin whoever bought bitcoin 3 years ago.  Bitcoin has always been in profit.  Bitcoin always profitable cryptocurrency. Some people get rich and richer with bitcoin but some others will get poor and poorer with it. Worst, some people will end with bankruptcies.
Title: Re: Should Bitcoin be an investment or store of value?
Post by: densus88 on November 25, 2021, 07:13:35 PM
You can see last 3 years price in bitcoin whoever bought bitcoin 3 years ago.  Bitcoin has always been in profit.  Bitcoin always profitable cryptocurrency. Some people get rich and richer with bitcoin but some others will get poor and poorer with it. Worst, some people will end with bankruptcies.

Yes, many people become richer because of bitcoin.
I have invested in several coins and alway believed my coins will pump, although sometimes wrong and loss.
I think bitcoin always be investment , I agree with this.
Title: Re: Should Bitcoin be an investment or store of value?
Post by: luvr1000 on November 25, 2021, 09:36:58 PM
Bitcoin will become the main currency on the Internet in the future, like the dollar currency in the ordinary world and I think that in 10 years it will be all over the world
Title: Re: Should Bitcoin be an investment or store of value?
Post by: pacar_tiri on November 26, 2021, 07:23:34 AM
Bitcoin will become the main currency on the Internet in the future, like the dollar currency in the ordinary world and I think that in 10 years it will be all over the world

Anything can be happen, but I think It's really difficult to happen.
the government will create own crypto currency and  against bitcoin be the number one as future currency.
That's just prediction, maybe wrong.
Title: Re: Should Bitcoin be an investment or store of value?
Post by: BOAEDAN on November 26, 2021, 09:00:51 AM
I think bitcoin is an asset that can be used for investment because when talking about bitcoin store value, bitcoin has no form, it's better to be careful if you want to store assets in bitcoin because it has a very high risk, bitcoin price movements are very unstable.
Title: Re: Should Bitcoin be an investment or store of value?
Post by: mahadev on November 26, 2021, 04:00:32 PM
I think bitcoin is an asset that can be used for investment because when talking about bitcoin store value, bitcoin has no form, it's better to be careful if you want to store assets in bitcoin because it has a very high risk, bitcoin price movements are very unstable.

Well, I think Bitcoin is not store values , just digital asset for investment.
You can buy and hold as assets, or doing daily trading with bitcoin.
Title: Re: Should Bitcoin be an investment or store of value?
Post by: Bobcrypto on November 26, 2021, 06:51:23 PM
In my opinion, Bitcoin fall into both options, a store of value and an investments. Money is a type of asset in an economy that you can be use to buy goods and services from other people or businesses. One of the functions of money in an economy is that it serves as a store of value. A store of value is something that people use to transfer purchasing power from the present to the future. Bitcoin is digital currency that has the same function as money (fiat).
Now Bitcoin as an investment, and as a mater of facts, in finance, an investment is a financial asset bought with the idea that the asset will provide income further or will later be sold at a higher cost price for a profit. Bitcoin can be purchase for the future to earn higher profit. This is my opinion.
Title: Re: Should Bitcoin be an investment or store of value?
Post by: gotbounty on November 26, 2021, 11:43:01 PM
Bitcoin will become the main currency on the Internet in the future,
How do you know this? Do you think Bitcoin will replace dollars? I think dollars still be the main option for a digital transaction or non-digital transaction. Bitcoin still has many obstacles to be the main currency, especially because not all governments agree to legalize it. How can Bitcoin be the main currency if many of people cannot use it for a digital payment tool?
Title: Re: Should Bitcoin be an investment or store of value?
Post by: legend45 on November 27, 2021, 11:44:35 AM
Bitcoin will become the main currency on the Internet in the future,
How do you know this? Do you think Bitcoin will replace dollars? I think dollars still be the main option for a digital transaction or non-digital transaction. Bitcoin still has many obstacles to be the main currency, especially because not all governments agree to legalize it. How can Bitcoin be the main currency if many of people cannot use it for a digital payment tool?

I think It will take several years again to happen If the  people predict bitcoin will replace dollars.
Bitcoin has potential to be, but As you said many government didn't agree legalize bitcoin.
Title: Re: Should Bitcoin be an investment or store of value?
Post by: Fenix on January 05, 2022, 09:04:46 AM
Bitcoin will become the main currency on the Internet in the future, like the dollar currency in the ordinary world and I think that in 10 years it will be all over the world
This is a statement without any arguments or grounds. Even on this forum, the majority say that they have never used bitcoin as a currency, that is, as a means of payment. But first of all, it was for this that Bitcoin was created by Satoshi Nakamoto. Bitcoin is now used primarily as a vehicle for investment and storage of value. Yes, it has a great price now, but this value for a cryptocurrency is not very constant. So far, bitcoin does not fulfill its main purpose - to be an alternative means of payment for the currently existing payment system. Bitcoin, of course, will never fully replace the dollar or any other state currency.
Title: Re: Should Bitcoin be an investment or store of value?
Post by: Btclover on January 05, 2022, 12:28:52 PM
Well, in my opinion, the reason why people keep on talking these two important features of bitcoin is because maybe we wanted to be sure that Bitcoin really lives up to whatever we wanted it to be.
Title: Re: Should Bitcoin be an investment or store of value?
Post by: Manna on January 05, 2022, 12:39:40 PM
Bitcoin can be a good investment and can be a store of value, notwithstanding its volatility. Well, in my opinion, the reason why people keep on talking these two important features of bitcoin is because maybe we wanted to be sure that Bitcoin really lives up to whatever we wanted it to be. With the vision of Satoshi Nakamoto, we have to remember that there is nothing in this world that will really stick strictly
Title: Re: Should Bitcoin be an investment or store of value?
Post by: Senin on February 18, 2022, 10:53:07 AM
Any fiat currency simultaneously performs all functions, including as a means of accumulating value. But in bitcoin, this function is certainly the main one. And so much so that it is almost never used as a means of payment. Yes, this situation is likely to continue in the next few years. This is not very good for cryptocurrency, because bitcoin does not fulfill its main purpose yet. For now, bitcoin maintains the overall rate of high price growth, but this will not always be the case, and then the situation will change. In the meantime, the function of a means of payment is more performed by some altcoins.
Title: Re: Should Bitcoin be an investment or store of value?
Post by: dekafee79 on February 18, 2022, 01:50:20 PM
Bitcoin can be a good investment and can be a store of value, notwithstanding its volatility. Well, in my opinion, the reason why people keep on talking these two important features of bitcoin is because maybe we wanted to be sure that Bitcoin really lives up to whatever we wanted it to be. With the vision of Satoshi Nakamoto, we have to remember that there is nothing in this world that will really stick strictly

I think bitcoin nad altcoins are just investment, not store value.
I personally have invested in bitcoin and altcoins since 2014 and got many profits from those.
I think bitcoin and altcoin are really good for investment.
Those are digital asset that suitable for long term investment.
Title: Re: Should Bitcoin be an investment or store of value?
Post by: shadowdio on February 22, 2022, 11:04:59 AM
If people use bitcoin as their store value like a bank then chances they will lose their money because once bitcoin dump the price, people will start to panic, they will withdraw their bitcoin at lose..
Title: Re: Should Bitcoin be an investment or store of value?
Post by: Fenix on February 22, 2022, 03:19:09 PM
I recently saw the cited data that over the past year, 2021, the price of bitcoin has increased by only 61 percent. At the same time, for example, ethereum has increased in price by more than five times. The price of bitcoin is already quite high now and it is hardly to be expected that it will continue to grow many times as before. But as long as people expect its price to rise further, until then, bitcoin will be used primarily as a store of value, and not as a means of payment.
Title: Re: Should Bitcoin be an investment or store of value?
Post by: Dora Walletinvestor on February 22, 2022, 03:34:56 PM
I certainly agree that Bitcoin is getting less risky in spite of its relative volatility. I still consider it more of an investment and less a store of value since it is still considered a high-risk asset among investments in general.
Title: Re: Should Bitcoin be an investment or store of value?
Post by: Doctor on February 22, 2022, 06:35:03 PM
I certainly agree that Bitcoin is getting less risky in spite of its relative volatility. I still consider it more of an investment and less a store of value since it is still considered a high-risk asset among investments in general.

Me too, I also think bitcoin is an investment, not store of value.
By seeing bitcoin has high risk, although less risky but we all know bitcoin and altcoin are very volatile, really difficult to predict bitcoin and altcoin price accurately.
I always think crypto is asset and good for future investment.
Maybe seeveral investor think bitcoin is store of value,but not for me.
Title: Re: Should Bitcoin be an investment or store of value?
Post by: elbans89 on February 22, 2022, 07:08:56 PM
Bitcoin is an investment, I agree with opinions above.
Becaue we can invest in bitcoin, hold for long term , it's worth it.
Bitcoin is not store of value, As member here said, bitcoin is high risk.
Title: Re: Should Bitcoin be an investment or store of value?
Post by: bayiajaib on February 22, 2022, 08:02:51 PM
Bitcoin is an investment, I agree with opinions above.
Becaue we can invest in bitcoin, hold for long term , it's worth it.
Bitcoin is not store of value, As member here said, bitcoin is high risk.

Bitcoin being store of value or investment is depending on your point of view.
If we talk about risk, bitcoin is high risky.
But If we talking about value, bitcoin will be more valuable at the  coming future.
Title: Re: Should Bitcoin be an investment or store of value?
Post by: Confero on February 22, 2022, 08:49:49 PM
Bitcoin is an investment, I agree with opinions above.
Becaue we can invest in bitcoin, hold for long term , it's worth it.
The most important thing for me is that we can take advantage of Bitcoin at any time, want to hold it in the long term or in the short term I think it's the same.  Because we can see Bitcoin price movements up and down quickly, if we are good at taking advantage of this then it will be very good.
Title: Re: Should Bitcoin be an investment or store of value?
Post by: therozaq on February 22, 2022, 09:58:09 PM
Bitcoin is an investment, I agree with opinions above.
Becaue we can invest in bitcoin, hold for long term , it's worth it.
The most important thing for me is that we can take advantage of Bitcoin at any time, want to hold it in the long term or in the short term I think it's the same.  Because we can see Bitcoin price movements up and down quickly, if we are good at taking advantage of this then it will be very good.

Hold for long or short term, it depends on teh Market conditions and your capital.
If the market is struggling, I think hold is better to do.
We know It's bearish season, I think hold for long term investment is good way to keep your assets
talking about capital, if you have free money you can hold for long because you didn't needs to fulfill your needs.
Maybe you have other income in your real life.
Title: Re: Should Bitcoin be an investment or store of value?
Post by: alltalk on February 22, 2022, 10:31:12 PM
Bitcoin is used both as an investment and payment tool although not all countries are allowed it nowadays. There is no problem using Bitcoin for our investment, it doesn't deviate from Satoshi's goal. Even Satoshi wants Bitcoin to be a payment tool or electric cash, having it as an investment won't bring any negative impacts. People can start to use Bitcoin from investment, then they can use it for payment tools once it is legal in their countries.
Title: Re: Should Bitcoin be an investment or store of value?
Post by: Prime on February 22, 2022, 11:46:29 PM
I used Bitcoin for investment, I think it is also a kind of store of value. There is no problem with both these functions, most people also use both investment and store of value. We must take advantage of Bitcoin as much possible as we can. Satoshi must have no problem with people taking advantage of the two things.
Title: Re: Should Bitcoin be an investment or store of value?
Post by: Seerge on February 23, 2022, 03:55:52 AM
I used Bitcoin for investment, I think it is also a kind of store of value. There is no problem with both these functions, most people also use both investment and store of value. We must take advantage of Bitcoin as much possible as we can. Satoshi must have no problem with people taking advantage of the two things.
Smart people want to always develop their assets, whether it is invested in digital currency or invested in others. 
Bitcoin has a very good price increase potential, of course this can be chosen as an investment or store of value. 
The point is that we want our money to grow, and this is very possible if we choose Bitcoin.
Title: Re: Should Bitcoin be an investment or store of value?
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on February 23, 2022, 04:14:29 AM
BTC right now can be useful as both, as a reserve of Value and as an Investment, and this is something that was shown to us in the pandemic, I don't know if you remember that at the end of 2019 and the beginning of 2020 that all the financial markets fell a lot With the exception of Gold, BTC fell only a little, but some time later, around 4 months later, BTC recovered and began to rise steadily, this means that those who had BTC in Hodl worked as a store of value.
Title: Re: Should Bitcoin be an investment or store of value?
Post by: DAMKAR on March 18, 2022, 07:55:09 PM
BTC right now can be useful as both, as a reserve of Value and as an Investment, and this is something that was shown to us in the pandemic, I don't know if you remember that at the end of 2019 and the beginning of 2020 that all the financial markets fell a lot With the exception of Gold, BTC fell only a little, but some time later, around 4 months later, BTC recovered and began to rise steadily, this means that those who had BTC in Hodl worked as a store of value.

Yeah I see. Bitcoin has shown good performance at 2019 and beginning 2020 while pandemic COVID 19 we also bitcoin has been used by many people to gain extra  money.
I think bitcoin is investment, I never think bitcoin is store of value.
Maybe while bitcoin is more popular and has been allow by many government, bitcoin will be store of value.
Title: Re: Should Bitcoin be an investment or store of value?
Post by: Linda78 on March 19, 2022, 03:06:59 PM
Bitcoin is a virtual currency. Its current value is worldwide. I think it's an investor organization. If one invests here then one must follow the calculation of profit and loss. If you are long If you can invest time, then you are more likely to make a profit. So you must invest wisely. The future of Bitcoin is very bright.
Title: Re: Should Bitcoin be an investment or store of value?
Post by: kent47400 on March 24, 2022, 07:57:36 AM
Bitcoin is very sensitive to what exists because the value of Bitcoin is still the same as before and what sets it apart is the change in fiat, and the ownership of this Bitcoin must be carefully so that our private key cannot be known by others.
Bitcoin security has been tested with various software wallets that can be integrated with Bitcoin such as Trustwallet, Safepal, ImToken, TokenPocket etc. With proven wallet software like this, it is certain that Bitcoin can be said to be safer than other cryptocurrency investments.
Title: Re: Should Bitcoin be an investment or store of value?
Post by: cheezcarls on March 24, 2022, 12:53:58 PM
"On a risk-adjusted basis, BTC is an easier bet today than it has ever been," Novogratz said in an Oct. 27 tweet. "It’s being de-risked daily."

"Adjusted by its volatility, Bitcoin has presented the best return in one or two years against all other asset classes," Cointelegraph markets contributor Marcel Pechman said when asked to weigh in on Novogratz tweet. "Few investors expect gold to rally 60%, but it never went below -8% so the Sharpe index adjusts returns based on volatility.”

"I don't think Bitcoin is going to be used as a transactional currency any time in the next five years," Novogratz said in an interview with Bloomberg TV, posted on Oct. 23. "Bitcoin is being used as a store of value," he added. "People are worried that the central banks around the world are debasing fiat currencies."


Article: Bitcoin becoming less-risky as an investment, Novogratz says (https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-becoming-less-risky-as-an-investment-novogratz-says)

What do you think about the idea that Bitcoin would be more suitable for the role of a low-risk investment or a store of value for the owner? Is this contrary to Satoshi Nakamoto's expectations of Bitcoin? And can Bitcoin trust its mission to be transferred to altcoins?

BTC is indeed treated as an investment and not a store of value. Time and time again, it proves to bounce back no matter how many times we see bearish periods.

I am not sure how BTC can be treated as store of value. Maybe it would happen if they’re gonna treat it as a reserve currency, but I don’t think it will happen because of the market volatility. Making BTC a legal tender isn’t enough to make it as a store of value either.
Title: Re: Should Bitcoin be an investment or store of value?
Post by: jonathancool220 on March 27, 2022, 04:43:15 AM
Bitcoin already has so many markets and fantastic value and this Bitcoin can definitely be the right choice for everyone because I am sure that Bitcoin will be the best choice as a digital asset in the future.
Bitcoin and Satoshi Nakamoto will be an irreplaceable memory because Bitcoin was supposed to be anonymous to its creator and of course also now Bitcoin continues to be sought after by everyone in the cryptocurrency space instead of choosing altcoins and altcoins are also sometimes chosen to multiply Bitcoin in trading.
Title: Re: Should Bitcoin be an investment or store of value?
Post by: Linda78 on March 27, 2022, 05:16:43 PM
If you can invest enough in Bitcoin now, you are more likely to get a good job in the future.So if one can store more bitcoin then good profit will definitely come in the future.
Title: Re: Should Bitcoin be an investment or store of value?
Post by: legend45 on March 30, 2022, 02:59:53 AM
If you can invest enough in Bitcoin now, you are more likely to get a good job in the future.So if one can store more bitcoin then good profit will definitely come in the future.

It's annoying to imagine bitcoin at the beginning, If I bought more and hold until now, I think I'll be rich people.
But nevermind.
In my opinion bitcoin is an investment, we can invest in bitcoin and altcoin too.
We also do day trading in several reputated exchange such as binance, Kucoin, Hotbit, Bitmart and other.
Title: Re: Should Bitcoin be an investment or store of value?
Post by: Linda78 on April 02, 2022, 09:35:53 AM
At present the market is in a relaxed position and if one can invest enough bitcoin now then of course it is good but hopefully possible.Of course if you can keep investing for the future Good results can be expected in the future.
Title: Re: Should Bitcoin be an investment or store of value?
Post by: mlawson71 on April 02, 2022, 06:06:54 PM
I don't feel too comfortable with the idea of Bitcoin as a store of value at the moment. It's too volatile. But that may change in the future, as the industry grows and matures.
Title: Re: Should Bitcoin be an investment or store of value?
Post by: IyemRoker on April 07, 2022, 01:57:45 PM
I have had Bitcoins since 2017 and Bitcoins are very easy to trade.
Bitcoin can be a very valuable digital asset and of course Bitcoin will be the best choice for all investors and traders.
Novogratz is also very right because Bitcoin price changes are now very low in terms of price declines, meaning that Bitcoin almost every year has a price increase.
Title: Re: Should Bitcoin be an investment or store of value?
Post by: rizqillah on April 07, 2022, 04:48:26 PM
I have had Bitcoins since 2017 and Bitcoins are very easy to trade.
Bitcoin can be a very valuable digital asset and of course Bitcoin will be the best choice for all investors and traders.


agreed, bitcoin can be a very valuable digital asset, this coins alway good for trading and also for long term investment, hold if we have free money to do.
In my opinion bitcoin is an investment.
Ethereum is also good too
I have both since 2018 and used those for my investment, either hold and trading.
Title: Re: Should Bitcoin be an investment or store of value?
Post by: aiviaa485 on April 08, 2022, 02:54:08 PM
Bitcoin has become a valuable digital asset and its price is very, very expensive.
I also believe that this Bitcoin already has a very good reputation in the entire cryptocurrency market.
Bitcoin has become something valuable that is on the screen of a smartphone or notebook, therefore Bitcoin will continue to have a price value that is stored in every wallet we have.