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Title: Web3-phones trend: are you ready to participate?
Post by: KryptoBull on March 12, 2024, 03:43:04 AM
Solana blockchain has made an impressive comeback in 2023 after escaping the FTX collapse. Along with the price increase of SOL token and Solana ecosystem, we are also witnessing a new trend in the market: physical products sold with huge benefits, specifically Sagaphone - the first Web3 phone in the crypto market.

Sagaphone was introduced by Solana in May 2023 but did not stand out in the Android smartphone market, its price has been reduced from 1000 USD to 599 USD in August 2023. Even, Sagaphone was being crowned the "worst phone of 2023" by tech reviewer Marques Brownlee. I myself don't want to own a smartphone like Sagaphone, it looks worse than the old iPhone I'm using.

However, the memecoin BONK created the plot twist. 30M BONK tokens airdropped to Sagaphone owners, worth ~1K USD, helped increase demand for Sagaphone. A Sagaphone with 30M BONK not yet received was resold for 5K USD on eBay, which is crazy because the buyer could have used 5K USD to buy 160M BONK at the current price. Maybe he expects other airdrops from new projects in the Solana ecosystem in the future [1].

After Sagaphone's success, Solana's $450 Chapter 2 Smartphone has ignited a pre-order frenzy: 25K preorders in the initial 24 hours and within a mere 30 hours of its announcement, Chapter 2's 30K preorders eclipsed the entire first-year sales of its predecessor , the Saga [2]. I'm starting to think that the Solana dev team wants to focus on making money from selling smartphones and issuing memecoins rather than improving network stability.

The Web3 phone wave is not just limited to Solana: Aptos, a Layer 1 blockchain, partnered with Jambo Technology to launch a new $99 Web3 smartphone designed specifically for emerging markets in February 2024 [3]. Yesterday, March 11, Ninety Eight, the creator of the Coin98 DeFi ecosystem, did the same when it introduced the $99 JamboPhone for the Asian market [4].

These cheap Web3 phones will probably come pre-installed with applications from blockchain/crypto projects to help users access Web3 more seamlessly, but I doubt their hardware quality. I don't have faith in a smartphone that costs less than 100 USD.

The market has developed, Blockchain-phones have become Web3-phones. I still remember the Electroneum project that allowed users to mine ETN tokens right on their smartphones [5], or Samsung Galaxy S10 supported blockchain wallets for users [6], they were really a big step forward for blockchain technology to ordinary users. Today, when everyone owns a smartphone and can easily install popular crypto wallet applications like MetaMask, Trust, SafePal..., Web3-phones are not very valuable. They are just cheap smartphones that have pre-installed a few crypto applications (I think users can completely install them themselves) or contain NFTs with the ability to receive many valuable airdrops in the future.

I am not ready to buy any Web3 phones myself. I already have enough crypto wallet apps on my trusty old iPhone to interact and use Dapps effectively. I also believe that the security of Apple's iPhone is better than that of cheap Web3 phones from lesser-known phone brands.

I would like to know your opinion on the Web3-phones trend:

References:
[1] Solana Saga Phone Labeled ‘Failure of 2023’ Despite Surge in Demand (https://cryptopotato.com/solana-saga-phone-labeled-failure-of-2023-despite-surge-in-demand/)
[2] Solana’s Chapter 2 Smartphone Breaks Saga’s Annual Sales Records in Hours (https://cryptopotato.com/solanas-chapter-2-smartphone-breaks-sagas-annual-sales-records-in-hours/)
[3] Aptos to Launch Smartphone to Boost Web3 Access in Emerging Markets (https://beincrypto.com/aptos-smartphone-web3-access-emerging-markets/)
[4] Coin98 Super Wallet Pre-installed on JamboPhone, Fostering Web3 Adoption Across Asia (https://blog.coin98.com/coin98-super-wallet-pre-installed-on-jambophone/)
[5] Electroneum Mining: How to mine ETN in 2023 (https://www.cryptopolitan.com/how-to-mine-electroneum-etn/)
[6] The Best Blockchain Phones to Consider in 2022 (https://cryptonews.net/news/blockchain/6100075/)

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Title: Re: Web3-phones trend: are you ready to participate?
Post by: TomPluz on March 12, 2024, 09:09:46 AM

I am sure that we are in for an exciting time not just because of the current bullish season but because we are seeing some good success stories like this experienced by Solana's SAGA phone with the twists and turns that eventually lead to its mega success. Sometimes it can be true that when you are not hitting your goal the first time around, then innovate and try another chance because you don't know when to really hit the jackpot.

1. Are you willing to buy Web3-phones?
Yes, of course, if it can give me an earning opportunity like being able to mine certain coins exclusive to specific phone owners. Now, this can certainly entail some capital and there is also that big risks that junkies would ride the wave just to make them money at the expense of the buyers. Yes, this is exciting but we must be aware of the possible risks.

2. Will Web3-phones become a trend for other blockchains to follow?
There is a big possibility for this trend to also be adopted by many others. This is human nature that success is always being copied until such a time when there is no more juice that can be squeezed from the milking cow. Just like Bitcoin and the avalanche of alts, more players are now thinking how they can also introduce their own Web3 phones to the market.

3. Are Web3-phones really necessary for the crypto/blockchain market?
I don't think so. These so called Web3 phones can be considered as an additional fixture to the crypto market but should not be considered as really necessary to get into the industry and enjoy its many immense benefits. I would say that this is just comparable to a woman who decided to go to a beauty spa to enhance her beauty though she is actually so beautiful inside and out.




Title: Re: Web3-phones trend: are you ready to participate?
Post by: joniboini on March 12, 2024, 09:54:40 AM
It is honestly surprising to see so many preorders for a reskinned phone (not that massive compared to regular phone orders, but still). I wonder if the numbers are fake, or if crypto users are just that gullible. The only thing that I believe is valuable on devices like this is bragging rights, which as little to no value in the long run. If I want something secure I'd develop an air-gapped device on my own, or buy a phone with dedicated hardware for seed storage solution, etc, not midrange Android phones with preinstalled wallet apps.

I don't like this trend and I hope people will be smarter in the future so no company can sell vaporware and vanish soon after.
Title: Re: Web3-phones trend: are you ready to participate?
Post by: bitbit97 on March 12, 2024, 11:12:54 AM
I wont call it a phone trend, as we previously had projects that promised to release an all-in-one phone-wallet-miner devices. Almost every one of them failed. What has Solana offered and started, this is not a phone trend, this is simply bonus hunting. I really doubt that  someone will really design, develop, order and manufacture something. I think project will again raise funds in exchange of a promise to develop, but in reality just send token or other benefits to those who preordered.
Title: Re: Web3-phones trend: are you ready to participate?
Post by: ABCbits on March 12, 2024, 12:42:18 PM
  • Are you willing to buy Web3-phones?
  • Will Web3-phones become a trend for other blockchains to follow?
  • Are Web3-phones really necessary for the crypto/blockchain market?

1. No, i already i have a phone and i don't think i need another one. Besides, there's no guarantee there'll be another interesting airdrop for owner of those web3-phone.
2. Probably no. I agree with @joniboini that total sales/pre-order seems to be inflated. And since some of web3-phones have expensive price, i expect many cryptocurrency owner would rather buy iPhone.
3. No, we could just use regular smartphone and install web3 apps on it.
Title: Re: Web3-phones trend: are you ready to participate?
Post by: Lucius on March 12, 2024, 05:52:12 PM
In other words, all those who buy that phone don't buy it because they want it, but because they will get some kind of tokens if they buy it - but I doubt that those behind all this will not profit very well from this business move. I wouldn't be surprised if people start buying those Tamagotchi  that were once popular if they are promised that they will get something in return.

The bottom line is that you can sell even a crap phone for a solid price if you offer something extra along with it, but I would still skip this offer and maybe treat myself to a premium smartphone this year to celebrate the bull run :D
Title: Re: Web3-phones trend: are you ready to participate?
Post by: bitmover on March 12, 2024, 08:16:09 PM
In other words, all those who buy that phone don't buy it because they want it, but because they will get some kind of tokens if they buy it - but I doubt that those behind all this will not profit very well from this business move. I wouldn't be surprised if people start buying those Tamagotchi  that were once popular if they are promised that they will get something in return.

The bottom line is that you can sell even a crap phone for a solid price if you offer something extra along with it, but I would still skip this offer and maybe treat myself to a premium smartphone this year to celebrate the bull run :D

I think people just try to mix some buzzwords to make money in this crazy crypto space.

Web3 AI Blockchain Smartphone or whatever, words that don't even make sense together  ;D

And people buy because all things just move up in these bull run times...
Title: Re: Web3-phones trend: are you ready to participate?
Post by: Freemind on March 12, 2024, 08:32:26 PM
I think that mobile phones called web 3 do not contribute anything. In itself, Sagaphone is nothing more than an Android phone, with specific software preinstalled. It does not have new or revolutionary hardware, nor software that cannot be used on another smartphone, so I don't see the use or need of using a Sagaphone for anything.To make matters worse, it is overpriced even though the original price has been reduced.

As for Bonk... Just crumbs to get people to buy the phone, I think it is an insult to human intelligence, but there are probably people who bought the Sagaphone just to get the airdrop.
Title: Re: Web3-phones trend: are you ready to participate?
Post by: MrSpasybo on March 12, 2024, 08:48:06 PM
The Web3 phone wave is not just limited to Solana: Aptos, a Layer 1 blockchain, partnered with Jambo Technology to launch a new $99 Web3 smartphone designed specifically for emerging markets in February 2024 [3]. Yesterday, March 11, Ninety Eight, the creator of the Coin98 DeFi ecosystem, did the same when it introduced the $99 JamboPhone for the Asian market [4].

I would like to know your opinion on the Web3-phones trend:
  • Are you willing to buy Web3-phones?
  • Will Web3-phones become a trend for other blockchains to follow?
  • Are Web3-phones really necessary for the crypto/blockchain market?
I was really surprised with this decision of Coin98 team: they only care about reaching users while not thinking about the quality and safety of cheap smartphone devices under $100. I used to use a few cheap smartphones to install wallet applications and found that even with TrustWallet, the experience was not good, while previously Coin98 Wallet was famous for requiring good hardware to ensure the user's experience.

1. I'm not willing to buy a Web3 phone, I will still trust the phone I'm using instead of having another cheap phone.

2. Aptos and Coin98 are following Solana, I wouldn't be surprised if some other blockchains would release their own phones or partner with a phone manufacturer to embed their applications into the device.

3. I do not find any value in Web3 phones, they do not help users experience Web3 better, they are just a way for marketing.
Title: Re: Web3-phones trend: are you ready to participate?
Post by: Gladitorcomeback on March 13, 2024, 09:06:48 AM
I wont call it a phone trend, as we previously had projects that promised to release an all-in-one phone-wallet-miner devices. Almost every one of them failed. What has Solana offered and started, this is not a phone trend, this is simply bonus hunting. I really doubt that  someone will really design, develop, order and manufacture something. I think project will again raise funds in exchange of a promise to develop, but in reality just send token or other benefits to those who preordered.

Exactly, the trend isn't for the phone itself because if it was, people would have preordered when it launched for the first time and not when BONK tokens were being airdropped. So the demand is for the token and not the phone and I'm pretty sure that there wouldn't be as much demand as there is for this one if they announce another model of the phone that would come with no tokens or anything.

I also strongly believe that the demand wouldn't be this high if the amount of tokens being airdropped didn't have a significant value in the market or it was a token that wasn't yet launched in the market and had any value at all.
Title: Re: Web3-phones trend: are you ready to participate?
Post by: ABCbits on March 13, 2024, 10:20:30 AM
I was really surprised with this decision of Coin98 team: they only care about reaching users while not thinking about the quality and safety of cheap smartphone devices under $100. I used to use a few cheap smartphones to install wallet applications and found that even with TrustWallet, the experience was not good, while previously Coin98 Wallet was famous for requiring good hardware to ensure the user's experience.

But have you checked hardware specification of Coin98/Jambo phone? They offer 8-CPU and 4GB RAM only for $99, which is sufficient to run most wallet software smoothly. Although being that cheap, i usually question it's privacy and whether they show ads on their built-in application.
Title: Re: Web3-phones trend: are you ready to participate?
Post by: bitbit97 on March 13, 2024, 10:57:06 AM
But have you checked hardware specification of Coin98/Jambo phone? They offer 8-CPU and 4GB RAM only for $99, which is sufficient to run most wallet software smoothly. Although being that cheap, i usually question it's privacy and whether they show ads on their built-in application.

Tech specs are indeed look unreal for that price. I have checked my local mobile shops, and you can get a RealMe C30 with 8-CPU but 3GB ram for that price. And this is an old model already (2022 release date) with Android 11 on the board (up-to-date is Android 15). For $99 they offer new product. Hard to believe you would really get such specs for that price and something modern. Either they are on the are crowdfunding and would never produce any phone, or I dont know where they could save to make it cost so little. Probably it will be more a device that can answer calls or type text only, then run any app.
Title: Re: Web3-phones trend: are you ready to participate?
Post by: 0t3p0t on March 13, 2024, 02:40:58 PM
1. Are you willing to buy Web3-phones?
2. Will Web3-phones become a trend for other blockchains to follow?
3. Are Web3-phones really necessary for the crypto/blockchain market?
1. I don't think I am buying one because I am currently using an Android phone that has more of a specs compared to the new trend of web3-phones. Android is more capable of doing almost anything because it is packed with so much power and features than maybe just a self centered web3-phone though I don't have one but for now I don't have plans.
3. I don't think so haven't had tested one yet but I am all good using my Android at the moment so I'll give it a pass for now maybe in the future we'll see how things goes.
Title: Re: Web3-phones trend: are you ready to participate?
Post by: Lucius on March 13, 2024, 04:56:22 PM
I think people just try to mix some buzzwords to make money in this crazy crypto space.
Web3 AI Blockchain Smartphone or whatever, words that don't even make sense together  ;D
And people buy because all things just move up in these bull run times...


It's true, when we're in a bull run, everyone uses the opportunity to sell something, no matter how pointless it seems. Unfortunately, the saying goes that every product has its buyer, and when we know how powerful the internet is as a tool for promotion, if this phone were sold in every country in the world in just one copy, it would bring a nice profit.
Title: Re: Web3-phones trend: are you ready to participate?
Post by: LogitechMouse on March 13, 2024, 05:38:54 PM
I would like to know your opinion on the Web3-phones trend:
  • Are you willing to buy Web3-phones?
  • Will Web3-phones become a trend for other blockchains to follow?
  • Are Web3-phones really necessary for the crypto/blockchain market?
1. No. Those smartphones are just like our android and iPhone phones. It's just that it's pre-installed with some crypto applications whatsoever. The reason why I bought a smartphone is for better gaming performance (since I'm a gamer). I will not buy a phone that focuses on cryptocurrency at all.
2. The BONK airdrop to those who bought the phone might've created a bit of a domino effect on other projects, but the effect isn't that high that I didn't hear that Solana launched a smartphone of their own, and airdropped those who bought the token. I don't think that it will be a trend, but there's a possibility that these projects will use that phone as a criterion for an airdrop of their token or whatever token it is. It can be as long as the total value of tokens that those who bought the phone will get is higher than the price of the smartphone.
3. No. It wasn't necessary, and I don't see any benefit of it TBH. I mean even though we are using android and iPhone phones, we can still have access to different wallets, so aside from that, what's with these Web3 phones that android and iPhone users don't have?
Title: Re: Web3-phones trend: are you ready to participate?
Post by: Gurujebs on March 13, 2024, 06:26:43 PM
But have you checked hardware specification of Coin98/Jambo phone? They offer 8-CPU and 4GB RAM only for $99, which is sufficient to run most wallet software smoothly. Although being that cheap, i usually question it's privacy and whether they show ads on their built-in application.

Let's leave privacy first and look at the price of the phone. Selling a phone for that price is giving low quality product, that phone is less than what some hardware wallets actually and to say that they are going to be using an open source operating system which is going to be connected to the internet is not going to be a good idea.

There is no way they are not going to collect user data unless they don't want to understand users behavior and going beta will not be enough to improve on the current behavior of the phone. I just think no crypto company need phone if they can't develop their own operating system to make it unique.
Title: Re: Web3-phones trend: are you ready to participate?
Post by: ABCbits on March 14, 2024, 09:23:58 AM
But have you checked hardware specification of Coin98/Jambo phone? They offer 8-CPU and 4GB RAM only for $99, which is sufficient to run most wallet software smoothly. Although being that cheap, i usually question it's privacy and whether they show ads on their built-in application.
Let's leave privacy first and look at the price of the phone. Selling a phone for that price is giving low quality product, that phone is less than what some hardware wallets actually and to say that they are going to be using an open source operating system which is going to be connected to the internet is not going to be a good idea.

Based on little experience, cheap phone have fairly good hardware quality for it's price and it doesn't break that easily. But otherwise it's true it's not comparable with hardware wallet in terms of security.

There is no way they are not going to collect user data unless they don't want to understand users behavior and going beta will not be enough to improve on the current behavior of the phone. I just think no crypto company need phone if they can't develop their own operating system to make it unique.

That's true, although i also expect they'll collect far more of personal data even when compared with other phone brand.
Title: Re: Web3-phones trend: are you ready to participate?
Post by: MUGNIA on March 14, 2024, 02:25:25 PM
I think I can just use the phone I already have,
as there have been projects like this but none have been successful,
as you said, a telephone that doesn't have a name lacks trust because it hasn't been proven to work, we should see in the next 1-2 years whether the web 3 telephone project is successful, if it is successful and a well-known cellphone is involved, maybe I will think about buying it, for now I think just using a Samsung is more than enough for me
Title: Re: Web3-phones trend: are you ready to participate?
Post by: Freemind on March 14, 2024, 08:36:40 PM
Let's leave privacy first and look at the price of the phone. Selling a phone for that price is giving low quality product, that phone is less than what some hardware wallets actually and to say that they are going to be using an open source operating system which is going to be connected to the internet is not going to be a good idea.

There is no way they are not going to collect user data unless they don't want to understand users behavior and going beta will not be enough to improve on the current behavior of the phone. I just think no crypto company need phone if they can't develop their own operating system to make it unique.

Basing Sagaphone on Android is repeating what has already been repeated many times with many manufacturers. What could add value and revolutionize the industry would be to develop a new operating system, but that not only requires time, it also requires a very large budget if we are talking about developing something professional, that maintains certain security standards and can be sold publicly. The problem in this case is that they have chosen Android because of the licenses and because it is the easiest way to launch the smartphone on the market as soon as possible.
Title: Re: Web3-phones trend: are you ready to participate?
Post by: KryptoBull on March 16, 2024, 09:26:35 PM
Basing Sagaphone on Android is repeating what has already been repeated many times with many manufacturers. What could add value and revolutionize the industry would be to develop a new operating system, but that not only requires time, it also requires a very large budget if we are talking about developing something professional, that maintains certain security standards and can be sold publicly. The problem in this case is that they have chosen Android because of the licenses and because it is the easiest way to launch the smartphone on the market as soon as possible.
I also think that blockchain projects should focus on solving their own problems, such as Solana with the stability of the network, instead of developing their own mobile operating system, they have no expertise in that. Hardware wallet companies like Ledger and Trevor have their own secure chip manufacturing technology, Huawei Group has spent a lot of time and effort to develop HarmonyOS on its own, and I believe that blockchain projects are unlikely to be able to do the same. .

The purpose of blockchain projects is to make their brand, applications and tokens in their ecosystem accessible to customers, and partnering with an existing phone brand, using an existing OEM chain and Android OS is the most suitable choice for them. I also believe that we will not wait for information about Solana to research and develop a new OS and build its own phone manufacturing company, I will sell SOL immediately after reading the news 8)
Title: Re: Web3-phones trend: are you ready to participate?
Post by: Freemind on March 19, 2024, 08:33:10 PM
I also think that blockchain projects should focus on solving their own problems, such as Solana with the stability of the network, instead of developing their own mobile operating system, they have no expertise in that. Hardware wallet companies like Ledger and Trevor have their own secure chip manufacturing technology, Huawei Group has spent a lot of time and effort to develop HarmonyOS on its own, and I believe that blockchain projects are unlikely to be able to do the same. .

The purpose of blockchain projects is to make their brand, applications and tokens in their ecosystem accessible to customers, and partnering with an existing phone brand, using an existing OEM chain and Android OS is the most suitable choice for them. I also believe that we will not wait for information about Solana to research and develop a new OS and build its own phone manufacturing company, I will sell SOL immediately after reading the news 8)

As I said, the fact of using Android is nothing more than proof that the objective was to launch the product as quickly as possible, at a very high price and without anything that differentiates it from the others. Developing an operating system requires years of programming, testing and a lot of money, so the simplest thing was to use Android. That's why I think Sagaphone was launched on the market just to make money.

I think Solana has much bigger issues as a brand and blockchain to worry about rather than releasing a smartphone that adds nothing to the current market and range of mobile phones. Constant network outages not only affect the price, but also affect the credibility of the product, and that is dangerous, since many people could begin to lose the trust placed in them and sell, which would cause the market to collapse.
Title: Re: Web3-phones trend: are you ready to participate?
Post by: KryptoBull on March 22, 2024, 01:59:25 AM
As I said, the fact of using Android is nothing more than proof that the objective was to launch the product as quickly as possible, at a very high price and without anything that differentiates it from the others. Developing an operating system requires years of programming, testing and a lot of money, so the simplest thing was to use Android. That's why I think Sagaphone was launched on the market just to make money.

I think Solana has much bigger issues as a brand and blockchain to worry about rather than releasing a smartphone that adds nothing to the current market and range of mobile phones. Constant network outages not only affect the price, but also affect the credibility of the product, and that is dangerous, since many people could begin to lose the trust placed in them and sell, which would cause the market to collapse.
Putting aside the issue of quality and limitations in terms of actual value, I consider Sagaphone to be an unexpectedly successful marketing strategy by the Solana team to attract investor attention in the crypto market with a physical product that comes with the opportunity to receive airdrops from new projects in the Solana ecosystem. This makes Solana a standout project and gets it featured in the media, attracting potential investors and spreading a compelling story. In this sense, Sagaphone is as successful as Apple's iPhone :)
Title: Re: Web3-phones trend: are you ready to participate?
Post by: Trongduy on March 22, 2024, 05:50:09 PM
The Web3 phone wave is not just limited to Solana: Aptos, a Layer 1 blockchain, partnered with Jambo Technology to launch a new $99 Web3 smartphone designed specifically for emerging markets in February 2024 [3]. Yesterday, March 11, Ninety Eight, the creator of the Coin98 DeFi ecosystem, did the same when it introduced the $99 JamboPhone for the Asian market [4].

I would like to know your opinion on the Web3-phones trend:
  • Are you willing to buy Web3-phones?
  • Will Web3-phones become a trend for other blockchains to follow?
  • Are Web3-phones really necessary for the crypto/blockchain market?
Coin98 is following this trend quickly, also choosing to partner with Jambo phone company to have their Wallet application pre-installed on the device. I used Coin98 Wallet on iPhone before, and sometimes it still lags and freezes, so I don't know how inconvenient it will be on a $100 phone.

We don't know yet if there will be any NFTs on this phone, everything has to wait for these projects to be announced, but I think there will be to attract buyers. If there is no NFT, investing in this kind of cheap smartphone will be considered a waste. It would be better if they just seriously partnered with Samsung or Xiaomi to pre-install the application on it, users who buy the device can activate it to use or not. Now users are encouraged to buy an additional cheap device that they will not use much, which is a waste of money and creates more technological waste.
Title: Re: Web3-phones trend: are you ready to participate?
Post by: robelneo on March 22, 2024, 07:03:16 PM
I first encountered this in our local community, the benefit of having this kind of phone is you are going to get exclusive airdrops from the manufacturer of the phone one of which is Solana.

This is a new trend that is very similar to the NFT hype, it's still a gamble on the part of the investors if the airdrops that you received turn out to be profitable for those Web3-phones.

I think this is a new trend in the market, developers keep feeding new concepts to investors so if you're a small investor it is hard to keep up with this new concept.
Title: Re: Web3-phones trend: are you ready to participate?
Post by: Mr. Magkaisa on March 22, 2024, 08:52:14 PM
      -   I'm just not sure if this is the noise I heard here recently about the Solana mobile phone, where the only people who bought it were the people who could afford it or the rich because it's actually not cheap. But at the first event, if I'm not mistaken, it was sold out immediately.

Maybe if I have a lot of money, I will take advantage of it. As long as it can provide a profit opportunity, why not? That's why I didn't avail because I found out it was over. And our time is really different now because of the technology we have.
Title: Re: Web3-phones trend: are you ready to participate?
Post by: Freemind on March 23, 2024, 10:04:35 AM
Putting aside the issue of quality and limitations in terms of actual value, I consider Sagaphone to be an unexpectedly successful marketing strategy by the Solana team to attract investor attention in the crypto market with a physical product that comes with the opportunity to receive airdrops from new projects in the Solana ecosystem. This makes Solana a standout project and gets it featured in the media, attracting potential investors and spreading a compelling story. In this sense, Sagaphone is as successful as Apple's iPhone :)

Well, there are many different points of view from which we can approach the launch of Sagaphone. I think that the airdrops that Sagaphone users can receive are nothing more than an excuse to justify the purchase of the device. If the Solana developers had wanted their users to receive airdrops, they could do it in a thousand different ways, but due to coincidences in life and industry, only those who have purchased the smartphone will be able to receive them.

When you say it has been a success like Apple's iPhone, what do you mean?. I haven't seen marketing campaigns like Apple's and I'm sure they haven't sold as many Sagaphone units as Apple has sold iPhones. What I see is a product that I have to pay for to receive airdrops ;)
Title: Re: Web3-phones trend: are you ready to participate?
Post by: bhadz on March 23, 2024, 10:09:03 AM
I want that phone but I will only buy them once they've got enough reviews that I can rely on. I want a new phone that's going to be used for the long term and with such trends, I am not going to buy it asap and that's why I'll wait for more inquiries and feedback about the phone themselves. I've known someone that has purchased it but it's solely for the thought of the hype that he won't miss a lot of airdrops that can be interconnected by the phone manufacturer.
Title: Re: Web3-phones trend: are you ready to participate?
Post by: KryptoBull on March 24, 2024, 10:16:43 PM
I want that phone but I will only buy them once they've got enough reviews that I can rely on. I want a new phone that's going to be used for the long term and with such trends, I am not going to buy it asap and that's why I'll wait for more inquiries and feedback about the phone themselves. I've known someone that has purchased it but it's solely for the thought of the hype that he won't miss a lot of airdrops that can be interconnected by the phone manufacturer.
As I have seen from Sagaphone's review, the quality of these phones is average and the security is similar to what is currently available on Android OS. We cannot expect anything more powerful. If you believe that they will bring airdrops, you can buy Chapter 2. Jambophones from Aptos and Ninety Eight do not come with the same expectations.

There are always optimists who believe in good things in this market. I also hope that he will get many rewards from future airdrops, or at least Web3-phone will also help him have more love for this market and earn profits from smart investment strategies.
Title: Re: Web3-phones trend: are you ready to participate?
Post by: Gyrgen on March 25, 2024, 10:25:12 PM
I think I can just use the phone I already have,
as there have been projects like this but none have been successful,
as you said, a telephone that doesn't have a name lacks trust because it hasn't been proven to work, we should see in the next 1-2 years whether the web 3 telephone project is successful, if it is successful and a well-known cellphone is involved, maybe I will think about buying it, for now I think just using a Samsung is more than enough for me
I think the majority are like you. But those who bought these smartphones didn’t really lose anything. The hardware that costs about the same is worth it, and the costs were paid off due to drops. And it’s an excellent marketing ploy that didn’t leave anyone at a loss.
Title: Re: Web3-phones trend: are you ready to participate?
Post by: KryptoBull on March 28, 2024, 01:24:51 AM
I think the majority are like you. But those who bought these smartphones didn’t really lose anything. The hardware that costs about the same is worth it, and the costs were paid off due to drops. And it’s an excellent marketing ploy that didn’t leave anyone at a loss.
I think this is only true for Sagaphone when the BONK airdrop has a value equivalent to its price. However, with Chapter 2, I'm not sure if things will repeat themselves because the new memecoins in the Solana ecosystem haven't announced any airdrops for Chapter 2 yet.

With the $100 Jambophone from Aptos and Ninety Eight, we haven't had any announcements about NFTs for buyers, so it's possible that this Jambophone will only have pre-installed applications of crypto projects instead of having any NFTs that bring future benefits to the owner.
Title: Re: Web3-phones trend: are you ready to participate?
Post by: 1020kingz on March 28, 2024, 02:16:21 AM
  • Are you willing to buy Web3-phones?
  • Will Web3-phones become a trend for other blockchains to follow?
  • Are Web3-phones really necessary for the crypto/blockchain market?

1. No, i already i have a phone and i don't think i need another one. Besides, there's no guarantee there'll be another interesting airdrop for owner of those web3-phone.
2. Probably no. I agree with @joniboini that total sales/pre-order seems to be inflated. And since some of web3-phones have expensive price, i expect many cryptocurrency owner would rather buy iPhone.
3. No, we could just use regular smartphone and install web3 apps on it.
I rather have my new iphone and install a non custodial wallet to store my assets. I think why there's a lot of demand for this web3 phone because of it's token compensation from projects in their ecosystem to their mobile users. I'm still holding back to purchase some of these phones, but who knows i might buy one if the tech of it's phone can be upgraded to higher versions that can compete the tech of the latest Android phones we have right now.
Title: Re: Web3-phones trend: are you ready to participate?
Post by: bitterguy28 on March 28, 2024, 07:25:46 AM
  • Are you willing to buy Web3-phones?
  • Will Web3-phones become a trend for other blockchains to follow?
  • Are Web3-phones really necessary for the crypto/blockchain market?

1. No, i already i have a phone and i don't think i need another one. Besides, there's no guarantee there'll be another interesting airdrop for owner of those web3-phone.
2. Probably no. I agree with @joniboini that total sales/pre-order seems to be inflated. And since some of web3-phones have expensive price, i expect many cryptocurrency owner would rather buy iPhone.
3. No, we could just use regular smartphone and install web3 apps on it.
I rather have my new iphone and install a non custodial wallet to store my assets. I think why there's a lot of demand for this web3 phone because of it's token compensation from projects in their ecosystem to their mobile users. I'm still holding back to purchase some of these phones, but who knows i might buy one if the tech of it's phone can be upgraded to higher versions that can compete the tech of the latest Android phones we have right now.
I agree in this mate, I already have my phone and there are also airdrops everywhere that we can gather tokens for compensation , i don't need this web3 phones because  i don't want my mobile using be compromized with this offer , my Iphone security is more than enough for this using .
Title: Re: Web3-phones trend: are you ready to participate?
Post by: KryptoBull on March 30, 2024, 01:03:03 AM
I agree in this mate, I already have my phone and there are also airdrops everywhere that we can gather tokens for compensation , i don't need this web3 phones because  i don't want my mobile using be compromized with this offer , my Iphone security is more than enough for this using .
I am an iPhone user and I have no reason to trust Android OS, sorry Android users but this is my feeling. But maybe other crypto investors believe that they will continue to receive many airdrops in the future with a value greater than the price of the Saga and Chapter-2 itself, they will buy them to receive airdrops rather than for daily use or storage crypto. I also wish them to have great rewards from airdrops in the future, I am happy with my iPhone but also do not hinder their investment decision.