Quote from: bettercrypto on April 11, 2024, 01:19:54 AM

Quote from: Garden on March 11, 2024, 01:24:40 PM

I don't believe this is the last bull market for Bitcoin. Its capitalization is only growing, more and more people are investing in Bitcoin and its price is rising accordingly. The price is already showing new highs. I think that there will certainly be downward corrections; the price will not rise without them. But I don't think the market will collapse.

Why did the OP say that it was the last bull run when he did not give any concrete reason for this matter? Why does the halving stop every 4 years? And I am pretty sure that everyone will not agree with what he said.

Because usually, right in the bull we're going through, many community investors buy Bitcoin and other altcoins that are on the top listing in the market because they know they'll get a profit from it, right?

There are definitely pros and cons to the OP's opinion, but let everyone have their own predictions, the point is for this season, don't ever experience losses due to mistakes, what usually happens is a high level of greed to achieve profits, but if we hold on for the long term it won't the problem of determining high profits

Anyone can do their own analysis and, believe it or not, everything will be returned to us, as well as the current bullishness, which is said to be the last, perhaps for the current halving period.
So can be true, we are told to be prepared so that we don't miss out on the time that is right before our eyes, like 2021, which felt that it would reach $100K and didn't know it didn't happen, where many people missed out on being able to achieve Maximum that profit.
I agree with you, don't be greedy!!! If you have obtained the expected profit, it is better to release it immediately and not keep waiting until it is higher.

You are right that bitcoin is safe to invest in, while altcoin is riskier but has a greater chance of making a profit.
Responding to whether bitcoin needs altcoins? I think the two have a complementary relationship, because there are many altcoin technologies that Bitcoin doesn't have.

No one doubts that Bitcoin is the safest investment with the smallest risk compared to others, especially when compared to altcoins.
You are right, that bitcoin and altcoins need each other and will not be able to exist until now, because they both complement each other in their respective strengths and weaknesses.
With a high enough price, all those who cannot invest in bitcoin will look for altcoins and when they are new enough they will move to bitcoin.

Quote from: yohananaomi on April 29, 2024, 09:44:38 PM

There is no discrimination in being able to invest in Bitcoin. Anyone who has more funds can do that if they are interested, so there are no restrictions for certain people.
I agree that if you really want to learn how to make initial investments, it can be from capital obtained from airdrops or bounties, so that there is no fear of losing, because the capital comes from prize money.
Indeed, it would be better if you invest using funds that are not connected to your daily needs, aka extra funds, not precisely the funds needed for your needs. It will be detrimental if you make a mistake in your analysis.

Analysis is always the main key in investing, because analysis errors will make us lose. Investing using prize funds from bounties and airdrops is also a good step because we don't need to use money from our salary in the real world, because our living needs are also high, unless they are rich people who have more funds.

If you diligently carry out analysis and are willing to execute it, it will be an experience for you to be more courageous in the future to do whatever you want to do.
Investment can have many sources that can be used. If there are no funds available from the results of real work, of course. Of are other alternatives that can be used and airdrops, bounties are one of them.
I agree, with the situation still being inflationary, the needs are quite large, it is not feasible to use funds for daily needs.

Quote from: Gyrgen on April 29, 2024, 11:38:46 PM

Are you serious now? Even the top ones shouldn’t be trusted, there are a lot of precedents. You should keep there exactly as much as you think you need for trading. Everything else is not in any case. And the point is not even that the exchange can be hacked, the exchange itself can stupidly freeze your funds in connection with any proceedings.

Yes, exchanges can freeze our funds for their own reasons, considering it money laundering or suspicious transactions. and we can also appeal to this matter.
I agree with your suggestion, we should use the funds we need to trade on the exchange, don't store excess funds in the exchange wallet.

Even though the stock exchange has the authority to freeze every fund we have, they will not be careless because it could have a negative side for themselves, so that many people move. Of course, the stock exchange that has been started well will be abandoned. It is not as easy as they think.
I agree, there is no suggestion using the stock exchange as a place to store your funds for a long time, because at any time the stock exchange may experience unpleasant developments so that your funds are lost. It is still safer in your wallet.

Quote from: yohananaomi on April 24, 2024, 10:49:20 PM

Yes, that's Elon who has the advantage of doing everything, by combining everything into his business where, as long as it is profitable, it will be done.
But I don't have confidence that Elon will use doge for his real business interests.
After Tesla, the current X will be used for its own purposes, by providing the opportunity for Doge to become a means of payment.
Elon has done his business well and will continue to do all the issues to increase the desired prestige.

Elon is a businessman, he only makes a profit from everything he does. And what was done in the past by tweeting about Doge to make the price of Doge rise and become more popular was the intervention of Elon Musk, influencing many people.

Elon is too smart for a business executive, he does whatever can benefit his company and that cannot be denied. Doge was big because the tweet was made to lead his followers to believe and caused prices to rise it high and Elon enjoyed the first profit because he had done it earlier, but now perhaps not many people believe in him anymore, because he is only manipulating for his own benefit.

Quote from: yohananaomi on April 24, 2024, 11:24:09 PM

Not only manipulation, but unfavorable news can also influence it and everything cannot be avoided, and that is the law of economics, where the big ones will be able to arrange everything for interests that can be profitable. But it must be remembered that the market also plays an active role in being able to break everything if done together and simultaneously.
But if countries cannot accept bitcoin, it is more because regulations do not yet exist and cannot control it, because bitcoin cannot be intervened by institutions, because it moves due to trade.

And this is the government's consideration for not allowing bitcoin as a payment method, because bitcoin cannot be controlled.
and as you said whales can manipulate the market with news, if they intend to make the market fall by spreading bad news, and vice versa

That's right, with the government not having the ability to control Bitcoin, of course,. is very fearful that if a problem occurs, the state will also be the one to bear everything, because it has wrongly implemented the rules it has made. So it's not easy to accept bitcoins to be used or recognized as legal payment. Maybe it doesn't prohibit trading, but if you want to use it, you have to use money that is legal and recognized by the government by exchanging it first.
Bitcoin is very vulnerable to information that occurs at any time and can change with the situation, even though trading is something that can make a direct contribution to Bitcoin.

Quote from: Captain Corporate on April 25, 2024, 12:13:38 AM

Way too many people are talking about it, I remember the time when China wasn't against bitcoin, and they had bunch of miners, almost all of bitcoin mining was there, that wasn't like 100 years ago, its recent memory, and bitcoin did well but not like something unreal happened. We should definitely consider that as a good news if it ever happens again, it would be something to celebrate, but do not expect like overnight a million dollars per coin type of thing, maybe a small increase but that's about it. I don't get why people suddenly started to talk about this, and not only that but hype the possibility as well.

There is a lot of talk about something like this which is also very good at building hype itself. because if a discussion is being held here about this then in other places the same discussion may also be taking place. And yes, this hype is what sometimes drives adoption itself.
And talking about China, of course this increasingly advanced economic country always attracts global attention nowadays. so every policy always attracts a lot of media news. So there's no mistaking it if China starts supporting crypto then it will be quite hype news. but yeah that won't make prices rise rapidly. Maybe a few percent increase is possible. And slowly returning to normal after the hype is over.

We cannot deny that China is a large country and has a very rapidly developing economy, so any news about that country will make a contribution to what is reported, as well as the question of the return of bitcoin may return there, so this news will inevitably make a big contribution to the development of bitcoin itself.
Hopefully, this is not just news, but will indeed be enforced because up to now, it has only been heard as news, but there has been no official decision. With just the news there has been a contribution made, moreover it will be determined later. Of course, we will see this contribution to the development of Bitcoin in the future.

Quote from: rizqillah on April 25, 2024, 11:35:42 AM

If it is prohibited in other countries, such as what you call China, many of its citizens invest there. The Chinese government should have a policy that protects its citizens from investing in crypto by providing investment permits.

Even though they have more citizens than other countries, they know the level of risk that can occur when trading and there also implement very strict regulations regarding the use of cryptocurrency so that the residents there are very compliant with these rules.

It's true, even though the population is the second largest after India, they can apply all the rules well, so that their citizens don't violate the rules that have been made, all because they are supported by their officials who can be disciplined in implementing the rules, including crypto, which is prohibited, and the officials there are not trapped to carry out manipulation.
So it is not surprising that they are able to become a country with very fast economic growth.