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Cryptocurrency Ecosystem => Bitcoin Forum => Topic started by: troll on June 04, 2019, 08:59:24 PM
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Followup to Satoshi Nakamoto and the Origins of Bitcoin (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=119756.0)
The man who disrupted the financial system for good, simply disappeared.
But why then?
His moving away from the project in 2010 and then coming back in 2011 to state that he will no longer be involved means that Satoshi knew he can no longer be involved, either due to terminal disease or due to becoming extra wealthy or due to being imprisoned.
Becoming extra wealthy, does not prevent him from seeking the billions he has!
Satoshi’s bitcoin address contains about 1,000,000 bitcoins. In December 2017, when the price peaked, he had more than 19 billion dollars. For that short moment, Nakamoto was 44th richest person in the world! And to this day he hasn’t cashed a single bitcoin.
Being imprisoned does not prevent him from cashing out some of them, we all know that computers are available in prisons.
The only possible outcome is that he is dead!
Hal Finney (https://web.archive.org/web/20110531173653/http://www.finney.org/~hal/) is the probable person behind bitcoin.
Finney was diagnosed with ALS in 2009 and he fought the disease until his death in 2014.
He started the financial revolution but had to retreat when the disease progressed.
When you see his bio in 2011 he mentions his 2009 ALS diagnosis:
https://web.archive.org/web/20110531173653/http://www.finney.org/~hal/
his 2007 bio, shows his interest and skills in cryptography and interest in politics and digital money:
https://web.archive.org/web/20071222202212/http://www.finney.org/~hal/
There are many other clues that point to Hal Finney:
- He was involved in the early crypto community
- He was a computer scientist, libertarian and cypherpunker
- He created his own digital money in the 1990s called CRASH (CRypto cASH)
- He created first reusable proof of work system
- He was advocate of decentralization after the fall of DigiCash
- He posted the first affirmative message about Bitcoin on the forum, he was the first one on the bitcoin network, first one to mine bitcoin, and he received the first bitcoin transaction
- He lived in the same town as Dorian Prentice Satoshi Nakamoto, which name he used to conceal his own
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Thank you for your suggestion on behalf of Hal Finney as Satoshi Nakamoto.
Thank you also for your wrong guess because with this I can only laugh and be confused.
* It's better if Satoshi Nakamoto is hidden and no need to be published *
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Making findings on whom Nakamoto is, is not really a good idea to the health of crypto currency and the crypto system at large. Hal Finney as a guess of yours to be Satoshi Nakamoto could be true, but what will be the result of having a single person in control of the crypto ecosystem? To me, it will simply lead to a deadend of losses and insecurity.
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Thank you for your suggestion on behalf of Hal Finney as Satoshi Nakamoto.
Thank you also for your wrong guess because with this I can only laugh and be confused.
* It's better if Satoshi Nakamoto is hidden and no need to be published *
If no one still knows about the personality of Satoshi, we can suppose that it was a group of guys under this name. Probably, when the last BTC is mined we will learn about it.
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Probably, when the last BTC is mined we will learn about it.
Not !
Even Bitcoin when it runs out in the mine still won't be able to reveal who Satsohi Nakamoto is.
And I'm sure Satoshi Nakamoto is not alone, but many or have a group because it is impossible for one to create a Bitcoin that has a difficult level of complexity.
This is my Assumptions . Cheerss !
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Craig is definitely going to be pissed off by this post.
There are some good connections to point that he is the real Satoshi but all these are still speculations.
In his last days, he could have simply told any of his trusted relative or friend about bitcoin and handed over the priv. keys. Why did he not do it?
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I don’t think that people will ever know who this person really is, I think that he has already died long ago. Or it’s not just one person at all, but a group of people who created it. There are legends that bitcoin was also created by the US special services.
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This name satoshi Nakamoto is the inventor of bitcoin, and his identity remain unknown till date. Many guys has claimed or has been pointed out as Satoshi Nakamoto, unfortunately, all these claims has remain very doubtful.
Main while, i think that satoshi identity is not important as far as crypto ecosystem is considered because, in my opinion, the identity may probably affect the progress of crypto. A group of person or an individual that succeed this claims may result to a hevy influence on bitcoin or crypto at large.
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Hal Finney is the creator of Bitcoin?
Is Hal Finney the creator of the Sirin Lab Token?
Because the name Sirin Lab Token creates a Smartphone called Finney. LOL
https://news.bitcoin.com/sirin-labs-launches-finney-the-blockchain-centric-smartphone/
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I am sorry to say that the real Satoshi seems another one. I advise forgetting Hal Finney, I doubt if he is the real one. There are many people state that they are the real Satoshi as well. But I just think they want popularity only. Let's the real Satoshi to hide his identity, no need to look for about him.
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Only one can prove who Satoshi Nakamoto is.
He is the owner of a satoshi account in another forum,but he will remain silent and avoid people who are not happy with it because Bitcoin is very annoying to the banking system because crypto is not managed by anyone with P2P and blockchain systems that can be trusted to store all data transaction
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Here we go again....
We don't know, we won't ever know. And even if we somehow eventually learn the truth, most of people wouldn't believe in that, because Satoshi is already an urban legend.
But making business on this is a different thing - especially if we look on Btitcon SV situation (https://www.spam blocked b/bitcoin-sv-lets-speculate/?utm_source=forum&utm_medium=refferal) after Wright's "coming out"
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Satoshi Nakamoto has his own rationale for his action to remain unabated, and that’s enough not to look for him. Perhaps in this way he is trying to maintain bitcoin decentralization or for some other reason. I think that it is necessary to stop his search altogether. For a decentralized cryptocurrency it will be much better.
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I think that letting Satoshi Nakamoto's identity undisclosed will add some mystery to bitcoin. People maybe curious about Satoshi but their curiosity will bring him a lot of unwanted troubles and even put his life in danger. Forget all about those prediction and use bitcoin as its real purpose is the best way to memorize Satoshi Nakamoto.
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Forget all about those prediction and use bitcoin as its real purpose is the best way to memorize Satoshi Nakamoto.
It should also be like that because knowing Satoshi Nakamoto was definitely not necessary to know.
Let Satoshi Nakamoto rest and do not need to be disturbed, he also needs calm and peace in his life.
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So far, there are some people claiming as Satoshi. personally, I don't care about it. I'm not interested to know who is exactly Satoshi Nakamoto. I only thank him or them that they or he has created Bitcoin and lead the crypto world to start and be right now.
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So far, there are some people claiming as Satoshi. personally, I don't care about it. I'm not interested to know who is exactly Satoshi Nakamoto. I only thank him or them that they or he has created Bitcoin and lead the crypto world to start and be right now.
Nothing will be changed if someone learns finally who is Satoshi Nakamoto. It does not make sense to get this information. We are simply happy with his Bitcoin. And waiting when it will rise to 1 000 000 dollars!
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Its an amazing history, very interesting the history of Satoshi Nakamoto and also Bitcoin.
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I don't think we need to look for Satoshi Nakamoto at all. Firstly, he himself hides his real name and whatever the reasons for this act, his opinion must be respected. Secondly, for a decentralized cryptocurrency it will even be better not to have any applicants for obtaining a patent for the invention of Bitcoin. Let it remain national wealth.
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it is absolutely true that Satoshi Nakamoto is still mysterious in its existence or original identity, and it is still a debate until now, but I feel Satoshi Nakamoto must have been a very rich person.
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I don't think we need to look for Satoshi Nakamoto at all. Firstly, he himself hides his real name and whatever the reasons for this act, his opinion must be respected. Secondly, for a decentralized cryptocurrency it will even be better not to have any applicants for obtaining a patent for the invention of Bitcoin. Let it remain national wealth.
Of course, it will be better for cryptocurrency in general if the creator of Bitcoin, which is known under the pseudonym Satoshi Nakamoto, remains unknown. This will be consistent with his desire, and the preservation of the principle of decentralization of cryptocurrency.
And it is unlikely that many current applicants for this name will be able to prove something already. After ten years it is almost impossible.
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it is absolutely true that Satoshi Nakamoto is still mysterious in its existence or original identity, and it is still a debate until now, but I feel Satoshi Nakamoto must have been a very rich person.
Yes, in fact, no one knows who Satoshi exactly. He is still mysterious whether he is a man or a woman. There is luck information to know about him and even where he comes from. But yes, of course, he is a rich man. He created Bitcoin, and Bitcoin has been in the high rate now.
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Nakamoto remains to be anonymous for such a long time, and although speculations remain so rampant to whom he is now I don't think that's brief information rather.
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I admired Hal Finey and Kudos to what he has done on crypto. It really revolutionize the finance industry. However, I don't think his the real Satoshi.
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Well it is really very interesting question..who is real Satoshi.. it means fake Satoshi also exists.. well i heard that he wanted to keep himself secret. Then people wants to know about him..
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many people claiming to be satoshi nakamoto. They want the fame and popularity of being a pioneer and creator of bitcoin. Actually those claiming are all fraud. Satoshi will no reveal himself for security purpose. He will be and idiot if he reveal himself in the public.
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Its an amazing history, very interesting the history of Satoshi Nakamoto and also Bitcoin.
Agree. It is always interesting to discuss the history of Bitcoin and Satoshi as the creator. But recently, too many fake Satoshi who want to be popular only or take advantages by claiming the owner of Bitcoin. I think this makes us bored and not interested anymore to discuss about them.
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It is difficult to find who the real Satoshi is, but I prefer he remains silent and hiding because there will be many people looking for who the real Satoshi is, if the figure of Satoshi Nakamoto is revealed, maybe the price of Bitcoin will not be like this time.
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It is difficult to find who the real Satoshi is, but I prefer he remains silent and hiding because there will be many people looking for who the real Satoshi is, if the figure of Satoshi Nakamoto is revealed, maybe the price of Bitcoin will not be like this time.
Correct. He seems to never state his identity to the public. I can understand him, the main reason must be about the his security and the sustainability of Bitcoin itself. There are too many people who may want to take advantages by knowing him. So, it is better to hide Satoshi's identity.
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Craig is definitely going to be pissed off by this post.
There are some good connections to point that he is the real Satoshi but all these are still speculations.
In his last days, he could have simply told any of his trusted relative or friend about bitcoin and handed over the priv. keys. Why did he not do it?
I doubt he be pissed up by this post, because many people are still claming to be satoshi nakamoto, and obviously this claims will be endless seeing that bitcoin is gaining popularity on a daily basis. I think he should give up strongling to get satoshi nakamoto but remain focus, may be he might get the name through the crypto community support.
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If Satoshi Nakamoto chooses so they will eventually reveal themselves, if not we will have to continue speculating.
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Yes, the name satoshi Nakamoto remains anonymous, at least, for the good of crypto grwoth. Whoever comes up now as the real satoshi may hinder the progress made so far in crypto development and growth. I think Satoshi Nakamoto identity may be revealed in the future.
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Thank you for your suggestion on behalf of Hal Finney as Satoshi Nakamoto.
Thank you also for your wrong guess because with this I can only laugh and be confused.
* It's better if Satoshi Nakamoto is hidden and no need to be published *
I agree, Satoshi Nakamoto keeps hiding himself, because if he presents himself it could endanger him, in fact many companies don't like cryptocurrency like banks.
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Well, they haven't done anything illegal, I am not sure how it would endanger them?
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No one knows who this person is and no one will possibly know it. Many say this is not a person but a whole community. This will remain a mystery to all to the end.
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Satoshi nakamoto is a individual person who invented bitcoin but none can know who is Satoshi nakamoto. There are no images and information about Satoshi nakamoto. Many people describe many varieties of information about Satoshi nakamoto...
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In my opinion, it will be much better for cryptocurrency if the real name of Satoshi Nakamoto remains unidentified. In order for Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies to remain decentralized, no one should have a patent for this invention.
Since the creation of Bitcoin has passed. more than ten years and therefore it is unlikely that Satoshi Nakamoto will ever be installed.
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I am not interested anymore to know who satoshi is, bitcoin has been on for long with lots of trials without satoshi and now its of no use to know
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The mystery behind Nakamoto’s identity has only grown, as the Bitcoin community speculates who it could potentially be. Satoshi Nakamoto claims to be Japanese. There is a probability Nakamoto is a single person or a group of individuals.
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it isn't important who is satoshi nakamoto. the fact that we don't know who is he, is one of the biggest advantages of the bitcoin. i don't want to know his identity.
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Bitcoin inventor Satoshi nakamoto is a imaginary person or group for all people. Some people think Satoshi nakamoto is a individual person and some people don't think it.. They say Satoshi nakamoto is a group of talented people.
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People have been saying many things about Satoshi Nakamoto over the years, nothing has been confirmed though.
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I don't think your guess is right since it is a decentralized system and he has good knowledge to hide himself. He don't have any diseases or any problem from Govt, just want to hide from public. I would suggest leave him alone, why we need to research and cry for him.
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Their invention changed the world, I think it's natural to be curious.
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Bitcoin inventor wants to remain anonymous and this is his choice. Perhaps someday in the future events will occur that will explain to us the reason for this decision. However, I do not think that we can already find out exactly who is hiding behind the name of Satoshi Nakamoto. Too much time has passed for this. There will be many versions later, but all of them will remain at the version stage.
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Satoshi Nakamoto has no real public, but according to the opinion of the people, he is believed to be the father of bitcoin, which brought revolution in the crypto world.
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Actually Satoshi nakamoto is hidden phenomenon in cryptocurrency. He /she is a virtual man/women /groups in our imagination. Some people called Satoshi is individual person, some called a group of talented people which invented bitcoin feedbacking Bank investment. Some called Satoshi nakamoto is nothing but a virtual imagination.
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No one knows who it is. And is it a man at all. There was a lot of speculation in the news. And no one can still give an exact answer. And I think we’ll never know who Satoshi Nakamoto is anyway.
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For me it is unknown.
Bitcoin was created decentralized and investors are anonymous.
Nowadays, the system is changing and yet nobody knows the real Satoshi Nakamoto.
There are a lot of speculations and ideas about him that remain untold.
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Anyone that brought this kind of innovation will want to hide from prosecution. There is no need to be finding Satoshi as Bitcoin itself is anonymous.
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What can they prosecute Satoshi Nakamoto for though?
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~~ There are many other clues that point to Hal Finney: ~~
Some clues seem reasonable even if they are still debatable. But we still cannot get a strong proof that all people agree he is the real Satoshi.
~~ It's better if Satoshi Nakamoto is hidden and no need to be published ~~
I agree that it is no need to publish something like this. It won't gain anything and surely we must support his privacy. Since crypto world is formed in a decentralized concept, all crypto users must respect his privacy. Moreover, he is the founder of Bitcoin.
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If Satoshi Nakamoto wishes to reveal himself (assuming it's just one person) that's their business, but if not, I think the rest of us should respect his privacy.