Khatam e Nubuwwat ﷺ vs Supreme Court

[Themepen]

Khatam e Nubuwwat ﷺ vs Supreme Court

مَّا كَانَ مُحَمَّدٌ أَبَآ أَحَدٖ مِّن رِّجَالِكُمۡ وَلَٰكِن رَّسُولَ ٱللَّهِ وَخَاتَمَ ٱلنَّبِيِّـۧنَۗ وَكَانَ ٱللَّهُ بِكُلِّ شَيۡءٍ عَلِيمٗا

ترجمہ: محمد ﷺ تمہارے مردوں میں کسی کے باپ نہیں ہیں لیکن اللہ کے رسول ہیں اور سب نبیوں کے آخر میں تشریف لانے والے ہیں اور اللہ سب کچھ جاننے والاہے۔

Asslamualaikum...!
Dosto kaya haal hen?

Sab sy pehly to ham sab janty hen ky Khatam e Nubuwwat ﷺ hmara imaan hai. Or iss kaa inkaar kuffar hai.

To dosto halya dino my Pakistan my ek masla bohat zyada zere behas hai to my ny socha iss ko cover karun taa ky ap sab ko bhi pata lagy ky asal muamla kaya tha? Or kaya fesla huwa or kaya kiya jaa raha hai? Or jin logon ko yani yahan jin members ko abhi nai pata un ko bhi pata lag jaye...

Where It Starts From?

To bhaio ye muamla shuru huwa ek Mubarak Saani naami ek shaks sy jo ky qadyani hai or is ny ek tafseer sagheer ky naam sy Quran e Pak ki tafseer hai yani ye Qadyanyon ki tarag sy likhi gai hai jis my kamino ny apny joothy nabi ko Nauzubillah Nabi sabit karny ki koshish ki. Acha ye us ny wo tafseer logon my bantna bhi shuru kar di. Lekn jab logon ko pata chala to logon ny us ky khilaf report ki us ky khilaf FIR Darj ho gai. Wo case chalta araha tha or Justice Qazi Faiz Esa shuru sy hi Qadyanyon kaa chamcha raha hai ny us ko khabees ko relief deny ki koshish ki.

What our Law says?

Lekn hmara qanun kehta hai ky ye Qadyani apny ghaleez aqeedy ko phela nai sakty apni ibadat gahon ko masjid nai keh sakty. Muslmanon ky events hen jesy qurbani karna wagera nai kar sakty. Yani in ko ye relief nai hai. Kiu ky ham in ko aqliyyat bhi nai maanty ye to aqliyyat kehlany ky bhi laaiq nai hen. Baqi ap ye pic dekhen ky hmara qanun kaya kehta hai?

Judgement of Supreme Court

Acha to ab baat aati hai fesly ki. Yaani esa kaya fesla huwa jiss ko dekh kar hmari awam my ghamo gussa paya jaa raha hai or kal Parliament my bhi iss ky baary my achi khaasi tqareer hui hen. Acha yahan my btata chalun ky is case ka kaya fesla huwa kissi ko pata nai tha. Lekn ek mazhbi syasi jamat TLP ny sab sy pehly is par ejtijaj kiya or supreme court ky fesly ko mstrd kiya. Or ye bat logon tak media tak or parliament tak tab pohnchi jab TLP ky Naaib Ameer ny Justice Qazi Faiz Esa ky sar ki qeemat lgai jo ky 1crore thi lekn bad my wo 5 crore tak pohnch gai. Phr logon ny iss my dilchaspi li or logon ko pata chala ky un ky to imaan par hamla huwa. 

My mukamal judgement to share kar dun lekn wo bohat zyada hai iss liye my wo hissa jis par log barham hen wo send kar deta hun taa ky ap ko bhi samaj ajaye. Or mulahiza ki jiye.



Ap parhen gy to ap ko alfaz kaa esa istemal nazar aye gaa ky jesy pata nai kaya hi likha huwa hai lekn aakhir oar yehi matlab niklta hai ky un ko apny deen ki tarveej karny ki ijazat hai. Lekn esa hargiz nai hai.

What should we do?

Ab iss my hmara kaya fareeza hai. Hmara fareeza ye hai ky agar Supreme court apny fesly par qaaim rehti hai to agar koi bhi yani koi bhi party kahin ehtijaj kary to us my shareek ho kar apny imaan ki hifazat karen. Or next logon ko is ky baary my agahi den jin ko iss hassas masly kaa nai pata taa ky wo in ghaleez logon ki baaton my naa ajaen.

ye masla kaafi zere behas tha to my ny socha iss ky baary my kuch cover karun taa ky hmari BTT ki community ko bhi pata chaly. My ny koshish to ki hai sab kuch cover karny ki agar kuch reh gaya ho to mazrat. Baaqi Agar kissi bhai kaa koi swal ho to wo puch sakta hai. Or agar koi qadyani hai yahan to wo kaafir zara door hi rahy.

Note: my ny size jo tha original images kaa nai change kiya iss liye ky sab ko samaj aye or baqi sizes bhi my ny apny mutabiq hi rakhy hen to please iss par koi behas naa kary shukriya. Or han may be kuch kafzi galtiyan hon to nazar andaz kar di jiye ga.

Source: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=232519.msg64377225#msg64377225

[Themepen]

Jesa ky ap sab jaanty hen ky my ny BTT par bhi ye information share ki hai. To my ny zruri samja ky idhar bhi is ko share kiya jaye. Or idhar ek alehda topic hai so sab apni apni raaye bhi dy sakty hen.

Wahan aaj nai to kal meri post back par chali jaye gi.

[Hamza2424]

Asslam o Alikum, bhai jaan saab see phele bohat bohat shukriyaa itne important information koo share karne kaa lia, abi main nee complete reading nai kii haa but i will do it for sure, soon. Bhai aik thodi sii help chaiye apki apne same topic yahan paar discuss kiaa haa, iske kia rules hain mere pass bohat sare un-attended topics hain joo ka BTT par zyda discussion attract nai kar payee, main sooch raha thaa yahan move karon for another point of view.

Magar mujhe rules ka idea nai haa, agar app help karo too bohat achaa hoga, I'll be waiting for it.

[snowpega]

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Assalam-o-Alaikum brother!

apny ya topic yaha share kiya apka bohat shuriya or mai ny read kiya almost saara ka sara case jo apny share kiya hai, Acha brother apki post read krny k baad ya andaza ho gaya hai mujhy k ya log gair muslim hain jo k ya mantay hain k ya muslim hain, Astagfirullah ya bohat bhari gustakhi hai k Allah k payari Nabi Hazarat Muhammad SAW k bad koi ya baat bolay k wo Allah ka Rasool hai meray khayal sy esko mar daina chaheya.

But brother mujhy asa lag rha hai k kanoon ny bohat dheel di howie hai enko yaha, as jo kanoon pas howa hai agar hum usko dakahain to hamain pata chalay ga k enko koi right nahi hai k ya apny najaiz deen k tableeg krain mai or jo case mai ny apka read kiya hai usky dakhty howay to yahe andza howa rha hai ya case apen he es binna par howa hoga k ya log apni harkatoo sy baaz nahi aa rhy jis sy muraad kanoon enko dheel dy rha hai. kiya khayal hai apka es baray mai? Halanky enko us ensaan ko pakarna chaheya jo najaiz toor par khud ko Rasool bol raha hai Astagfirulla.

Baki brother mai ak hor point add krta chalo mai ny kuch din pehly ak thread create kiya tha yo k asi he discussion k liya banaya gaya tha agar ap apna ya topic waha share karty to meray khayal mai zayada behtar hota as takreeban waha zain, junaid bhai or mai mil kar asi batai discuss kar rhy thy jin k maloom hoonaa zaroori hai, Baki mai thread ka link apko share kr daita hoo ap ak baar dakh lain khud b. Shukriya!

Note: bhai jan apsy pehly he Zain bhai ny apki ya wali post ka mehfoom waha share kiya howa hai mai abhi open kiya to pata chala, unho ny apki ya post BTT sy read kr k waha share ki hai or unka b shukriya k unho ny apka massage agy convey kiya Jazzak-Allah!

Link to the thread: Deen / duniya / Akhrat.

Baki +1 for you. as apny ya case kafi achy tareeky sy share kiya hai, or jo mai ny thread create kiya hai waha b mai ny rules asy he banaye hain k chezo ka reffernce kar karna bohat zaroori hai baat ko strong banay k liya or ap ny ba khoobi ya case waiy he share kiya hai.

[Themepen]

Asslam o Alikum, bhai jaan saab see phele bohat bohat shukriyaa itne important information koo share karne kaa lia, abi main nee complete reading nai kii haa but i will do it for sure, soon. Bhai aik thodi sii help chaiye apki apne same topic yahan paar discuss kiaa haa, iske kia rules hain mere pass bohat sare un-attended topics hain joo ka BTT par zyda discussion attract nai kar payee, main sooch raha thaa yahan move karon for another point of view.

Magar mujhe rules ka idea nai haa, agar app help karo too bohat achaa hoga, I'll be waiting for it.

Bhai Idea to mujy bhi nai hai. My ny to masla bohat hassas tha to ap sy share kar diya.
Phr bhi I think admin sy ap puchen gy to wo answer dy dy ga.

Assalam-o-Alaikum brother!

Walaikumuslam...!
Ab ap moderator ko btao gy ky kaya karna hai... Hahaha

Are nai bhai asal my naa ye topic bohat hassas or zruri tha iss liye my ny iss ko alehda topic bnaya. Taa ky agar koi new members bhi aen to wo easy sy read kar paen. Agar kissi thread my post karta to wo value naa milti.
My to issy pin karny ki soch raha tha lekn wo bhi munasib nai hai.
Bss issi liye ek alehda topic hona bohat zruri tha.

[JunaidAzizi]

Khatam e Nubuwwat ﷺ vs Supreme Court

Walaiqumassalm sir kaise Hain ap. Ma be Tek tak hun buhat shukarya.
Bahi apne ne waqt ke lehaz se buhat hassas masle per bat cheet shuro kar di ha aur ye hamre Leye baheseyat musalman buhat zarori ha ke es ko hum samje aur aur es ke defagh ma Kuch kare.  Ma ne dhpihr ko es parliamentarian ki speech sun li wo be esi topic per bat kar raha ta. Wo Keh raha ta speaker sahab se ke es hawale se koi rolling de take ye Jo qanon ma rewrite keia geya ha wo wapes kar le supreme court. Supreme court ne ye ejazat de ke ye log apne gharo ma Jo chahe kar sakte ha ye en ke Leye relief ha per muje lagta ha ke ye hamre judges ki sub se badi ghalti ha Jo hame serf o serf tabhe ki tarf lay jayenge.

Ab agr koi qadyani apne Ghar ma baita quran Shareef ke sath Kuch Radu badal kar le tu supreme court ke mutabiq os ko Kuch nahe kaha Jayega q ke wo apke Ghar ma Jo chahe kar Sakta ha per hum tu musalman ha hum tunes ki ejazat nahe dai Sakte ke koi kafir hamre Quran ke sath Cher khani kare aur humra eman Etna kamzure hoke ke hum os ko Kuch be na kahe ye aur Kuch nahe balke hamri eman ki kamzuri hogi aur na es Dunia ma balke akherat ma be hum ruswa honge . 

Supreme court ko ye chahye ke wo apni decision wapes Le aur dubra es masle per ghaor kare aur ye make sure kar le ke qadyani jaise logo ko kabi be es qesam ka relief kabi na deia jaye.

[ZAINmalik75]

Supreme court ne ye ejazat de ke ye log apne gharo ma Jo chahe kar sakte ha ye en ke Leye relief ha per muje lagta ha ke ye hamre judges ki sub se badi ghalti ha Jo hame serf o serf tabhe ki tarf lay jayenge.

Supreme court ko ye chahye ke wo apni decision wapes Le aur dubra es masle per ghaor kare aur ye make sure kar le ke qadyani jaise logo ko kabi be es qesam ka relief kabi na deia jaye.

Ab pata Nahi iss buddy ka dimagh kaam Karna band kardiya ya Kya wajah haa , aisy agr daikha jai ky garo Mai Bando Jo bhi kary ussy kuch Nahi Kaha jai ga yeh relief haa toh bs phir toh log sharab aur joowy ky addy apny Garo Mai banwa dyngy as relief haa yeh Kaise bahooda baat haa yani MATLAB kuch bhi yar. Phir toh hum Sy Iran behtr Howa km Sy km koi islami akhaamat Ki khilaf warzi Nahi kar sakta na koi kaam karsakta ha Jo Islam ky khilaf ho

Aur yaha toh kharab cheezo ko Sahi Karna ka chooro yeh toh Sahi cheezo ko bhi kharab kar rahy haa aur Abhi Mai ny news daikhe ky jis TLP ky sarbarah NY chief justice ky srr ka inaam rakha ta ussy arrest Karliya taaky inky irady kamzoor hojai but mujy Nahi laghta jaha hamary NABI aur ISLAM Ki baat aate ha waha jazby asamaan ko choo rahy hoty ha aur jis tarah parliament Mai opposition ny iski mukhalfat Ki Dil Kush kardiya

[Hamza2424]

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Haha, that funny aik taraf aap pega koo bool rehe kaa app moderator ko batao gee, i know in fun tone keh rehe matlab mazak maa still app keh too rehe dosri taraf main nee moderator sir see question kiaa too unhon nee kaha kaa mujhe idea nai haa topic important tha too main nee post kar dia, bai confirmation kaa liaa admin see pooch saktee, khair abi PM to main nai likh raha as filhaal kafi alte hoo gyaa, soba time nikaal kaa zaror likhon gaa.

Wessy baat too haa. kia kehte hoo haa ka nai moderator koo ye question hamare behlaf paa karna chaiye admin see.

[Themepen]

Haha, that funny aik taraf aap pega koo bool rehe kaa app moderator ko batao gee, i know in fun tone keh rehe matlab mazak maa still app keh too rehe dosri taraf main nee moderator sir see question kiaa too unhon nee kaha kaa mujhe idea nai haa topic important tha too main nee post kar dia, bai confirmation kaa liaa admin see pooch saktee, khair abi PM to main nai likh raha as filhaal kafi alte hoo gyaa, soba time nikaal kaa zaror likhon gaa.

Wessy baat too haa. kia kehte hoo haa ka nai moderator koo ye question hamare behlaf paa karna chaiye admin see.

Hamza bhai ab aap mujy btaen kaya my salon sy moderator hun?
Yaa pehly my ny kabhi moderation ki ho. Ye to wo kehty hen naa galinsy utha kar muhy masnad par bitha diya wo wala seen hai. Zyada tar to rules mujy bhi nai pata hen ky aakhir hen kaya.?
Yani matlab my still yahan nee hi hun. Han mujy jiss cheez kaa ilam hoga my zrur btaun ga. Ab meri activity cross ki 1000+ to my admin sy kaha ky legendary member kar do wo kehta hai automatic system hai. Ap ho jao gy promote yani ab mujy nai btaya ky kaya criteria hai. Or abhi tak hidden hi hai.

Admin hi janta hai yaa kuch main bandon ko shayad pata ho. Fill haal is ka criteria ka nai pata kissi ko bhi un k ilawa. Ab mujy jiss chz ka nai pata hoga my kesy bata dun ga. ?

Or mujy to koi umeed bhi nai thi yaa zehno ghuman my bhi nahi tha ky my bhi moderator bnaya jaa sakta hun. Or abhi tak ye bhi confirm nai hai ky kab tak mujy moderator rakhen gy or kab hata den gy. Koi pata naii...

[ZAINmalik75]

Yani matlab my still yahan nee hi hun. Han mujy jiss cheez kaa ilam hoga my zrur btaun ga. Ab meri activity cross ki 1000+ to my admin sy kaha ky legendary member kar do wo kehta hai automatic system hai. Ap ho jao gy promote yani ab mujy nai btaya ky kaya criteria hai. Or abhi tak hidden hi hai.

Admin hi janta hai yaa kuch main bandon ko shayad pata ho. Fill haal is ka criteria ka nai pata kissi ko bhi un k ilawa. Ab mujy jiss chz ka nai pata hoga my kesy bata dun ga. ?

Or mujy to koi umeed bhi nai thi yaa zehno ghuman my bhi nahi tha ky my bhi moderator bnaya jaa sakta hun. Or abhi tak ye bhi confirm nai hai ky kab tak mujy moderator rakhen gy or kab hata den gy. Koi pata naii...

Yar Jani ap fikr q kar rahy haa na hum kis Liya haa hum apko yeh maloomat farahmm karyngy aur apko bataingy ky apky legendary rank ky Liya Kya Kya cheezy required haa, ik TOH apky account ko Kuch karma milny chahiya isky ilawa ap ny km iz km ik ya iss Sy zyada thread open ki ho aur usky baad jo sab Sy ahm haa woh yeh haa ky apko 1250 activity poore Karni Hoge jo har ik post ky Sath ik barte haa.

Yani ky apko around 250 aur post karny paryngy tabhi jaaky apko apka rank mil jai ga isliya na admin sy poochny ki zaroorat na Kisi AUR Sy yeh cheezy filled kardy aur phir agr na Howa TOH Mai jurmana 😜. Khair Mai aur hamza bhia bohout qareeb haa hammy around 80 to 90 posts required ha kis sy maire activity 1250 hojaii ge aur yeh around Mai 3 weeks Ami kar lunga Baki istarh hamza Bhai bhi ha TOH tasalli raky hojai ga sab.

Baki aise moderatoree ko Mai laat Maar Raha hu ap isky Liya soochty bhi haa jis Mai na salary haa na Kuch aur bandy pahly Sy nahi haa yaha toh bs normal members aur moderator bs almost same hogai haa, Khair tension na ly ap lamba rehny wlay ha

[Themepen]

Yar Jani ap fikr q kar rahy haa na hum kis Liya haa hum apko yeh maloomat farahmm karyngy aur apko bataingy ky apky legendary rank ky Liya Kya Kya cheezy required haa, ik TOH apky account ko Kuch karma milny chahiya isky ilawa ap ny km iz km ik ya iss Sy zyada thread open ki ho aur usky baad jo sab Sy ahm haa woh yeh haa ky apko 1250 activity poore Karni Hoge jo har ik post ky Sath ik barte haa.

Yani ky apko around 250 aur post karny paryngy tabhi jaaky apko apka rank mil jai ga isliya na admin sy poochny ki zaroorat na Kisi AUR Sy yeh cheezy filled kardy aur phir agr na Howa TOH Mai jurmana 😜. Khair Mai aur hamza bhia bohout qareeb haa hammy around 80 to 90 posts required ha kis sy maire activity 1250 hojaii ge aur yeh around Mai 3 weeks Ami kar lunga Baki istarh hamza Bhai bhi ha TOH tasalli raky hojai ga sab.

Baki aise moderatoree ko Mai laat Maar Raha hu ap isky Liya soochty bhi haa jis Mai na salary haa na Kuch aur bandy pahly Sy nahi haa yaha toh bs normal members aur moderator bs almost same hogai haa, Khair tension na ly ap lamba rehny wlay ha

Chalen ji bohat shukriya ap kaa ap ny btaya ab zara senior members kaa bhi criteria bata den. Taa ky wo bhi ilam my ho baqi ap ny kissi thread my dekha ye? Agar han to link provide ki jiye ga.
Or rahi bat my kon sa yahan par din raat ek kar raha hun yahan koi new user nai hai jo rules ko break kary. To meri moderation to hai hi nai. Bsss wo kehty hen naa naam kaa hi moderator hun. Or naam hi kaafi hai... Hahaha.

Or yahan moderators ki bharmaar hai. Itt chukko ty moderator niklda ay... Hahaha.

Kher koi bat nai 250 kon saa door hen. Every week 30+ posts to ho hi rahi hen so wo din bhi aa hi jaye gaa ky ham legendary member ho jaen gy. Haha. Ap to pehly ho jaen gy. Hamza bhai bhi. To congratulations in advance.

[ZAINmalik75]

@Themepen Jani sr members aur sab ka ik scene ha Yani Wohi same ky apko karma required hongy Kuch usky ilawa ap ny thread banwany haa local ya bahir jaha ap chahy usky elawa ap ny activity poore Karne hoge. Bitcointalk Mai activity aur post completely change hoty haa but choonky hum yaha teleport howy ha aur post zero ha aur haamy woh same rank daina ha Bitcointalk wlaa toh unho ny activity barha ky waha ky posts ky barber karde Yani (activity = number of posts)

TOH apko batata chalu senior members ky Liya mairy khyal sy 280 activity pa hota taa isee Tarah hero ka 600 around pa aur legendary la 1250 around toh bs yahi formula ab sab pa apply kary Baki sab clear hojai ga

[Hamza2424]

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Jani gussa kuu kartee hoo haha, I know kafi old post haa pata nai kesa mood thaa orr kiaa sceen tha khair, app yee batain mujhe news milli kaa woo faislaa too wapis hoo gyaa thaa. Kia yee sach news haa recently dost ka sath baat akrtee howe mujhe yee pata chala baqi koi surity nai haa mujhee.

baqi moderator too hoo app, abb badi post badi zimadarii kiaa kehtee hoo. Khair ahca haa saab achaa haa.

[Themepen]

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Jani gussa kuu kartee hoo haha, I know kafi old post haa pata nai kesa mood thaa orr kiaa sceen tha khair, app yee batain mujhe news milli kaa woo faislaa too wapis hoo gyaa thaa. Kia yee sach news haa recently dost ka sath baat akrtee howe mujhe yee pata chala baqi koi surity nai haa mujhee.

baqi moderator too hoo app, abb badi post badi zimadarii kiaa kehtee hoo. Khair ahca haa saab achaa haa.

Hahaha... Wohi to my ny kaha bhai ky sirf naam kaa moderator hun. Baqi mujy kuch pata to hai nai. Or bhai jaan my ny gussa nai kiya just bat ki hai ky ap bhi janty hen my kon saa yahan saalon sy hun. Wo to bss mazahtan my ny bat ki ky ap ki kher nai  yani snowpega ko. hahaha.
Baqi no issue boss ji.

Or rahi bat abhi tak written fesla nai aya. Sirf bat ki gai hai ky fesly my sy 2 paragraphs jo ky mutnaze thy un ko khatam kiya jaye ga. Lekn sara fesla hi wrong hai kuch wukla or kuch ulama ky nazdeek. To jab tak written fesla nai aata. Or phr us ko parh kar wukla or ulama mutaffiq nai hoty tab tak samaj len muamla wahin hai. Ab dekhty hen written fesla kab tak ataa hai.

[Publictalk792]

@Themepen Jani sr members aur sab ka ik scene ha Yani Wohi same ky apko karma required hongy Kuch usky ilawa ap ny thread banwany haa local ya bahir jaha ap chahy usky elawa ap ny activity poore Karne hoge. Bitcointalk Mai activity aur post completely change hoty haa but choonky hum yaha teleport howy ha aur post zero ha aur haamy woh same rank daina ha Bitcointalk wlaa toh unho ny activity barha ky waha ky posts ky barber karde Yani (activity = number of posts)

TOH apko batata chalu senior members ky Liya mairy khyal sy 280 activity pa hota taa isee Tarah hero ka 600 around pa aur legendary la 1250 around toh bs yahi formula ab sab pa apply kary Baki sab clear hojai ga

Acha to ye seen hy. MATLAB mujy BHI koi topic start Karna chahye MATLAB mujy Abhi mazeed posts bnani hon gi Agar my Sr Member kaa rank hasil Karna Hy to.
West my ny bohat dhundna Tha iss forum par KY mujy mil Jaye koi esi post jis my criteria mil Jaye par mujy nai Mila.

My pinned posts my BHI Dekha par wahan BHI forum Ki taraf sy raaz Likha huwa Tha. Yani koi wahan BHI kuch nai Mila chalen Shukria sir ap ny btaya chalen ye to huwa KY EK direction mil Gai or Hona BHI ESA hi chahye yani pata Hona KY Han is KY bad rank mily Ga to mehnat Karny kaa Maza ata hy