Are too active badges a bad Idea?

[philipma1957]

When I got active here and joined a signature campaign I made an effort to earn a lot of badges. One that I earned was 25 posts in a day too active badge.

While I was looking to earn that and the 50 post badge on another day I came across the burst post rules and I decided to not try to do the 50 post badge.

I was reading various posts today and came across the thread pointing out manna and his over postings. Its locked. But he did 61 on one day and 46 on another day. which in terms of earning the two badges 25 in a day and 50 a day he did that.

I kind of think maybe he had a shit ton of poor posts including some that were not true.

But one could argue he was a bit stupid and was only trying to earn the two badges.


which means the reporting thread should have waited for three high posts days not two.

Since he manna could have defending himself by claiming I just wanted to earn the badges.

Am I making any sense here?  I voted maybe as I believe trying to win the badges is okay as long as the posts are good.

[Mia Chloe]

When I got active here and joined a signature campaign I made an effort to earn a lot of badges. One that I earned was 25 posts in a day too active badge.
While I was looking to earn that and the 50 post badge on another day I came across the burst post rules and I decided to not try to do the 50 post badge.
I was reading various posts today and came across the thread pointing out manna and his over postings. Its locked. But he did 61 on one day and 46 on another day. which in terms of earning the two badges 25 in a day and 50 a day he did that.
I kind of think maybe he had a shit ton of poor posts including some that were not true.
But one could argue he was a bit stupid and was only trying to earn the two badges.
which means the reporting thread should have waited for three high posts days not two.
Since he manna could have defending himself by claiming I just wanted to earn the badges.
Am I making any sense here?  I voted maybe as I believe trying to win the badges is okay as long as the posts are good.

Well the forum has badges for active posters doesn't actually call for shit posting and spamming. In fact logically I think the idea of both badges is not to encourage people to spam or make a ton of shit post rather it's more like a challenge to the forum users to try making 50 quality posts on that forum in a day which sincerely isn't easy at all.
Some users may see it as an avenue to shit post but the fact is it isn't. Let's not also ignore the fact that there are different kind of posters on the forum. Some post to meet up with either a personal target or probably that of a signature campaign, some post only when they find an interesting topic or have an interesting discussion to share.
For now I don't think badges are yet a big deal on the forum so it's a little like no one really cares.

[Cantsay]

Am I making any sense here?  I voted maybe as I believe trying to win the badges is okay as long as the posts are good.

If the user (or any other user) made those post in an attempt to earn that badge (for whatever reasons that they wanted the badge for in the first place) and then made sure that all the posts they made throughout the +50 posts were always on topic and not spam’s then it shouldn’t be an issue.

But in the case of Manna he’s a full member (currently) and we could argue that his goal of making that numerous posts in a single day was not to earn the badge instead it was for them to increase their ranking in a short duration of time - remember that the forum uses just activity points and lots of newbies/newcomers might just come to the forum and try to spam their way to a high rank in a short duration of time and that was what manna was trying to do.

P.s. I voted for “ no as long as the 25 or 50 posts are good.” I don’t see any issue with a good poster being too active.

[dragononcrypto]

This has been discussed before, and generally it's considered "not good" to get these. There is an irony that 25 posts is "too active" and 50 posts is "super active", as the latter certainly sounds like an achievement compared to the former. Users should always be aware these badges, particularly the latter, serve as a "honey pot" for admin to monitor overly active members. He has used it before to identify spammers and I wouldn't be surprised if he still regularly monitors members getting this badge or receives a notification. He sneeky like that, so word to the wise, if you're aiming to get the badge it might not be worth the hassle, as one of the most recent receivers has discovered it seems.

It should also be noted that it is also possible to legitimately gain these badges without shitposting, so the achievement itself isn't really good or bad in itself imo. The badge otherwise remains useful for quickly identifying shitposters and spammers, so I voted that they are not a bad idea to have, even if I don't agree that this achievement is inherently good either.

Disclaimer: I have both badges 

[hugeblack]

it is rare to find someone who makes more than 25 posts per day and they are of high quality, so this badge should be dedicated to someone who deserves it, so 25 per day is supposed to be the maximum.


The activity badge is supposed to measure the number of consecutive days you post and the number of posts, so someone who posts 2 posts per day is better than someone who posts 50 posts once a month.

[Hatchy]

P.s. I voted for “ no as long as the 25 or 50 posts are good.” I don’t see any issue with a good poster being too active.

I was going to also ask what the badges were used for. I think I've been surfing through the forum for long now and stil can't find any place where the badges comes in play. So it obviously makes no sense why he would want to spam just for the badges. Most members due to the increase of campaign launch on the forum, might currently be creating alts since to it's easier compared to btt to rank an account up( you only need activity). That could be the only reason manna decided to spam. I guess there might be other plans for the karma  in the future, once the forum gets even more traffics and visits.

[bayu7adi]

Let's say 50 posts as a benchmark... wouldn't it be better to just pin a simple "+50" badge? This certainly makes people more interested in seeing the contents of the posts made by the person concerned... and it can also mark the person concerned about the purpose of his/her over-activity, because we can't generalize that people who are overly active are always related to spam... it could be that those posts are really good quality and always stay on topic...

I choose "no as long as the 25 or 50 posts are good." I don't want to see friends here who are very active in writing quality posts lose their enthusiasm... however, it is inevitable, there will be some spammers who are after something... so the "+50" badge is enough, for quality checking, let other users judge... whether it is a spammer or a quality poster who really wants to learn or interact in this forum.

[_act_]

Am I making any sense here?  I voted maybe as I believe trying to win the badges is okay as long as the posts are good.

Yes if the posts are good, your account on this forum is good also. Even you can see people that will give you positive karma on your posts if it is helpful of useful.

But what I see is that the more someone is posting, the more the posts can have less quality. I think we should not think of making 50 posts but we should let it come naturally without thinking of it. Like me l do not care about the badges.

[Faisal2202]

This has been discussed before, and generally it's considered "not good" to get these. There is an irony that 25 posts is "too active" and 50 posts is "super active", as the latter certainly sounds like an achievement compared to the former. Users should always be aware these badges, particularly the latter, serve as a "honey pot" for admin to monitor overly active members. He has used it before to identify spammers and I wouldn't be surprised if he still regularly monitors members getting this badge or receives a notification. He sneeky like that, so word to the wise, if you're aiming to get the badge it might not be worth the hassle, as one of the most recent receivers has discovered it seems.

It should also be noted that it is also possible to legitimately gain these badges without shitposting, so the achievement itself isn't really good or bad in itself imo. The badge otherwise remains useful for quickly identifying shitposters and spammers, so I voted that they are not a bad idea to have, even if I don't agree that this achievement is inherently good either.

Disclaimer: I have both badges 

So as a spammer, if I want to make it a little more difficult for admin to find me I will make only 24 posts and will not get the 25 posts badge, and hurray, I might get some more time and can scam more people hahaha. Just kidding, although it's a good and easy way to catch spammers burst to post. But if the main concern here is to catch those bad actors, then I really don't think we should get these badges even if there is a legitimate possible way, which can be, in your opinion?

I make around 30 to 34 posts per week, and that's a lot for me if I don't have time, but when I have time, I think I can easily make 30 per day, but I am not going to make that many posts. One thing I have picked from the members' replies is that they think a person will be making that many posts will definitely make useless and spammy posts while I think that's not fully true. With more posts comes more knowledge that can be used within one another.

[philipma1957]

This has been discussed before, and generally it's considered "not good" to get these. There is an irony that 25 posts is "too active" and 50 posts is "super active", as the latter certainly sounds like an achievement compared to the former. Users should always be aware these badges, particularly the latter, serve as a "honey pot" for admin to monitor overly active members. He has used it before to identify spammers and I wouldn't be surprised if he still regularly monitors members getting this badge or receives a notification. He sneeky like that, so word to the wise, if you're aiming to get the badge it might not be worth the hassle, as one of the most recent receivers has discovered it seems.

It should also be noted that it is also possible to legitimately gain these badges without shitposting, so the achievement itself isn't really good or bad in itself imo. The badge otherwise remains useful for quickly identifying shitposters and spammers, so I voted that they are not a bad idea to have, even if I don't agree that this achievement is inherently good either.

Disclaimer: I have both badges 

Thats funny you have both.
I am a heavy duty poster. Over 50,000 posts on bitcointalk.
Over 6,000 on mac rumors
Over 1,000 on evga
Over 4,000 on parts express
Over 2,000 on 123 mac mini =  this is a dead forum
over 2,000 on anandtech = this forum is ending

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I wanted to earn tons of badges here and make a lot of posts.

I earned the 25 as I made like 28 just because I know how to write a decent post.

I do not need to do 25 in a day for my signature.
I do not need to do 50 in a day for my signature.

While I like earning badges getting in trouble to earn them seems to be an issue.

[Findingnemo]

I am also tempted to have this badge but I know I never posted such amount of posts in 24 hours in 6-7 years of bitcointalk so it's kind of bad though if I try to post just for the sake of getting that badge.

But it's okay as long as those posts carry decent value because it helps the forum activity. For now, it's okay to have, but in the future, it should be removed because it will definitely lead people to post more low-value one-liner generic posts that are of no use to anyone.

[KingsDen]

Let's not also ignore the fact that there are different kind of posters on the forum. Some post to meet up with either a personal target or probably that of a signature campaign, some post only when they find an interesting topic or have an interesting discussion to share.
For now I don't think badges are yet a big deal on the forum so it's a little like no one really cares.

Honestly, there are different types of posters in the forum as you said;
Some posts to meet up campaign quota;
Some post when they see interesting topics to discuss;
Some posts when they have topic to share.
Some are just using here like a normal forum.
I honestly do not know about the badges and how many I got. It is after reading this post that I went to my profile to check the badges I earned. Some, I don't even know how I earned them. I refuse to believe that someone can just make 50 posts in a day in order to get a badge.

[bitterguy28]

Am I making any sense here?  I voted maybe as I believe trying to win the badges is okay as long as the posts are good.

for sure there are many people who would just post low quality ones just for the sake of having many posts i don’t know if we should be careless in awarding this types of badges it’s so easy to have 25 or 50 posts if you just post without any substance

it takes time and effort to actually find a good thread and contribute something of essence maybe there should be a minimum of how many characters should there be in a post for it to be considered or counted for the badge

[bayu7adi]

Am I making any sense here?  I voted maybe as I believe trying to win the badges is okay as long as the posts are good.

for sure there are many people who would just post low quality ones just for the sake of having many posts i don’t know if we should be careless in awarding this types of badges it’s so easy to have 25 or 50 posts if you just post without any substance

it takes time and effort to actually find a good thread and contribute something of essence maybe there should be a minimum of how many characters should there be in a post for it to be considered or counted for the badge

I agree more that posts that are counted and deserve a badge are those that have substance, not based on the number of characters... there are still many posts that have a lot of characters, but there is no point or substance expressed... it is better to focus on good posts, which stay on topic and provide knowledge for their readers...

In forums, we cannot just rely on quantity, but must be guided by the quality and also the seriousness of the writers in discussing.

[PX-Z]

I agree more that posts that are counted and deserve a badge are those that have substance, not based on the number of characters...

This is i guess, programmatically hard, but although still possible, you will just need some criteria of your own or from the community's opinions to consider whether a post has substance or not, comparing a post with quantity characters than a post with a substance that is composed by one sentence only (smaller character count). Since +karma-based posts can be abused, many users have been caught already tbh.