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Title: Cheater Bounty Bitgame
Post by: Abang Jago on October 15, 2021, 08:01:15 AM
I found 2 peoples joined same signature with different forum.
Judges, please check this proof

1.Username : Altcoin1998$
Spreadsheet no 38 and 116
POA :
-https://no links to btg/forum/index.php?topic=108647.msg561547#msg561547
And https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=237355.msg1235682#msg1235682

2.Username: Nostoman
Spreadsheet no 34 and 119
POA : https://no links to btg/forum/index.php?topic=108647.msg560731#msg560731 and https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=237355.msg1235695#msg1235695

Spreadsheet bounty https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1kVe_x2VM7EQtILEMxkvfBnhBzdaImlbFT6inzzhh0jI/edit?resourcekey=null#gid=861839579

I hope mods, don't use their power for cheating bounty.
Its very ambrassed.
I think participants  will get less rewards, because one - two person using multi account. They are so greedy hope the account will banned.

Thanks


Title: Re: Cheater Bounty Bitgame
Post by: Jokers on October 15, 2021, 12:11:04 PM
I think participants  will get less rewards, because one - two person using multi account.

Accounts on different forums are not multi account. So the decision is of Bounty Manager. Is BM of this campaign against that practice? If so inform him and he'll do what's needed. If not I'd say that it is not a subject for our forum's court. But of course the judges would deside on their discretion not depending on my position. ???
Title: Re: Cheater Bounty Bitgame
Post by: dragononcrypto on October 15, 2021, 06:04:49 PM
I think participants  will get less rewards, because one - two person using multi account.

Accounts on different forums are not multi account.

Exactly. Although I know Bounty Detective don't approve of it, but it's up to Bitgame to decide whether this is ok or not.

I have PM'd them about the duplicate accounts, users with plagiarism strikes and others suspected of being multi-account accounts however.
They do have a rule about no cheating it's worth noting: "Spam, trolling, cheating are prohibited."
Title: Re: Cheater Bounty Bitgame
Post by: Nostoman on October 15, 2021, 06:33:54 PM
Just kidding, not multi. I am bd mod on bitcoin garden Forum. Just  different forums. So clam down. Abang Jago, don't waste your time for fud reason. I will diffidently contact with bounty manager. Thank for research.
Title: Re: Cheater Bounty Bitgame
Post by: Altcoin1998$ on October 16, 2021, 12:57:28 AM
Abang Jago gentle man please see the forum link ... Altcoin1998$ bitcoingarden account just different forum... Please check it carefully.
Title: Re: Cheater Bounty Bitgame
Post by: alltalk on October 16, 2021, 09:56:23 AM
Basically, it depends on the bounty manager. As far as I know, there is no specific explanation regarding "one person joining the signature campaign with more than 1 account on different forums". On the rules, BM only said "cheating are prohibited". Not sure if using some accounts from different forums is categorized as cheating. In my understanding, only the Bounty Manager or the team member of Bitgame who can decide whether it is cheating or not.
Title: Re: Cheater Bounty Bitgame
Post by: Abang Jago on October 18, 2021, 11:21:44 AM
I know it depends on BM decision.
Join bounty with two accounts even though in two different forums.

Wow..
he's a mod...or Is he mod ?
I think It will have bad effect for the forum.
Impressed altcoinstalk legalize cheaters or greed..

The question is..
is he a mod or a bounty hunter??

Should be considered again to be a mod, because He /she is not a good figure for members.

So it's a bad  precedent  for the forum.

It's better to review the role of mod for greedy people.
Title: Re: Cheater Bounty Bitgame
Post by: Abang Jago on October 18, 2021, 02:08:23 PM
added..

Hello admin, President, VP and Judges,
Do you know why ? not verified accounts can join the bounty here ? why not give them  cheater badge ?
If they are good people and have not verified account, they should fill the KYC.

Is not verified account mean suspected multy account ?? Really?

You should act decisively by labeling cheaters for accounts that are suspected of being multi accounts or must fill the KYC.

of course You should consider the suspicions of BM, who started to leave this forum because of  many multi account here..

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POA : https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=237355.msg1235368#msg1235368

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11. Rockalo
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16. Tamsialu$$
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21. Batch18-19
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POA : https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=237355.msg1235454#msg1235454

22. Maxtel
Profile Link : https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=77045
POA : https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=237355.msg1235459#msg1235459

23. Kangaro45
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POA : https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=237355.msg1235470#msg1235470

24. Lorix
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POA : https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=237355.msg1235474#msg1235474

25. Btceth01
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POA : https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=237355.msg1235503#msg1235503
Title: Re: Cheater Bounty Bitgame
Post by: dragononcrypto on October 18, 2021, 05:20:32 PM
added..

Hello admin, President, VP and Judges,
Do you know why ? not verified accounts can join the bounty here ? why not give them  cheater badge ?
If they are good people and have not verified account, they should fill the KYC.

Is not verified account mean suspected multy account ?? Really?

You should act decisively by labeling cheaters for accounts that are suspected of being multi accounts or must fill the KYC.

Yes, not verified are users suspected of being multi-accounts.

Suspicious Membership Groups

(https://www.altcoinstalks.com/Themes/default/images/notverified.png) => Verification needed, suspected of being a multi-account

Should we label suspected multi's of being cheaters without enough evidence? I doubt it.

of course You should consider the suspicions of BM, who started to leave this forum because of  many multi account here..

Have forwarded your report to the BM. Already PM'd regarding clones & suspected multi accounts but no reply.
Title: Re: Cheater Bounty Bitgame
Post by: Abang Jago on October 18, 2021, 06:18:22 PM
maybe you can give a big label "suspected multi-account", so that BM can  read it and doesn't accept them.  It's better to consider  it , in order that,   our forum is not suspected of being friendly to multiple accounts.
Title: Re: Cheater Bounty Bitgame
Post by: dragononcrypto on October 18, 2021, 06:28:31 PM
maybe you can give a big label "suspected multi-account", so that BM can  read it and doesn't accept them.  It's better to consider  it , in order that,   our forum is not suspected of being friendly to multiple accounts.

I PM'd BM with reference of what not verified stands for: suspected multi-account.
Title: Re: Cheater Bounty Bitgame
Post by: Abang Jago on October 18, 2021, 06:37:46 PM
maybe you can give a big label "suspected multi-account", so that BM can  read it and doesn't accept them.  It's better to consider  it , in order that,   our forum is not suspected of being friendly to multiple accounts.

I PM'd BM with reference of what not verified stands for: suspected multi-account.

I mean, you should replace the label "not verified" which is so small with a big label "suspected multi account" so that BM can see clearly and read it.
Maybe BM doesn't see it right now or didn't know what mean " not verified".
and maybe BM doesn't read your PM, sir.. :(
Title: Re: Cheater Bounty Bitgame
Post by: dragononcrypto on October 18, 2021, 06:39:10 PM
maybe you can give a big label "suspected multi-account", so that BM can  read it and doesn't accept them.  It's better to consider  it , in order that,   our forum is not suspected of being friendly to multiple accounts.

I PM'd BM with reference of what not verified stands for: suspected multi-account.

I mean, you should replace the label "not verified" which is so small with a big label "suspected multi account" so that BM can see clearly and read it.
Maybe BM doesn't see it right now.
and maybe BM doesn't read your PM, sir.. :(

PM admin about it. What you're discussing is an administrative issue.
Title: Re: Cheater Bounty Bitgame
Post by: Nostoman on October 19, 2021, 03:06:26 PM
May be some users have no documents for kyc because some users are teenager and they have no identity card/government national card/ passport . So some users are bitcoin restricted countries , they afraid police case for bitcoin and others forum kyc checking documents.

Before any issues/ comments, one should deeply analysis about multi accounts. You have not enough evidence about it. Some times Guess issues may hamper a lots.

@dragononcrypto don't tag suspected multiple accounts.
Title: Re: Cheater Bounty Bitgame
Post by: ranaprime on October 19, 2021, 03:56:29 PM
Before tag "suspected multiple account" I think everyone should be informed about it by an announcement. Those who will not submitted their required documents with the proper time which is mentioned by the authority will be rejected as well as get the tag.
Title: Re: Cheater Bounty Bitgame
Post by: ranaprime on October 19, 2021, 04:05:10 PM
If the authority give at least 1 week to complete their kyc that should be appreciable. what do you think about it?
Title: Re: Cheater Bounty Bitgame
Post by: dragononcrypto on October 19, 2021, 04:46:10 PM
@dragononcrypto don't tag suspected multiple accounts.

I don't. It's not my remit. You're pointing the finger at the wrong person here.

Before tag "suspected multiple account" I think everyone should be informed about it by an announcement.

Here's your announcement: https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=180760.0

If the authority give at least 1 week to complete their kyc that should be appreciable. what do you think about it?

You have as long as you like. The sooner you complete KYC, the sooner you lose the suspicious tag.
Title: Re: Cheater Bounty Bitgame
Post by: Abang Jago on October 19, 2021, 07:48:27 PM
May be some users have no documents for kyc because some users are teenager and they have no identity card/government national card/ passport . So some users are bitcoin restricted countries , they afraid police case for bitcoin and others forum kyc checking documents.

Before any issues/ comments, one should deeply analysis about multi accounts. You have not enough evidence about it. Some times Guess issues may hamper a lots.

@dragononcrypto don't tag suspected multiple accounts.

why are you bothered by the labeling of suspected multy accounts? 
Are you the owner or know the owner?

I think judges should do investigate for not verified accounts.
Maybe DT can help it..

Or do i have to do it myself ? I'm just a baby steps.. ;D
Title: Re: Cheater Bounty Bitgame
Post by: mnixxo.crypto on October 20, 2021, 07:06:45 PM
I found 2 peoples joined same signature with different forum.
Judges, please check this proof


I don't see any problem with this.

added..

Hello admin, President, VP and Judges,
Do you know why ? not verified accounts can join the bounty here ? why not give them  cheater badge ?
If they are good people and have not verified account, they should fill the KYC.

Is not verified account mean suspected multy account ?? Really?

You should act decisively by labeling cheaters for accounts that are suspected of being multi accounts or must fill the KYC.

of course You should consider the suspicions of BM, who started to leave this forum because of  many multi account here..


And about that. it is up to BM.

Me as bounty manager I would never accept such participants.
Title: Re: Cheater Bounty Bitgame
Post by: Abang Jago on October 20, 2021, 07:33:20 PM
Hello Nostoman..
I will help you to remember those accounts..
Maybe You're Amnesia or  Your sleep was too tilted...

1.Paglamon
https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=46373 (Paglamon + 0xcA98375329F3c359A4871B8AbA1C09aE75E75bD9)
join ETNA or cyclops Bounty
POA : https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=185752.msg1039803#msg1039803

-received BNB 0.0031 BNB ($1.51) from 0x8986b7414640a366b5d3528ae06675f3463f4280=== nostoman
POA : https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=201845.msg1135857#msg1135857
TXN Hash : https://bscscan.com/tx/0x2e97e071b07e912792c31eb3337c1e91402709a4664e88c4ba55f8422905570b
-received ETH 0.001832582 Ether ($7.10) from 0xcee53e9b3d028791a8ba5e68bd51177eccb5a2aa=== Galaxy
POA : https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=211798.msg1172681#msg1172681
TXN Hash : https://etherscan.io/tx/0xcd68cd95015d804ef531ceee0e05582bf626af8e1f4d3654d3906bb072bb46da
-received ETH 0.00175661 Ether ($6.80) from 0x394f7e76c55e0c5bfdfb1ac4dc5565199de98c90=== Tnoy30
POA : https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=208008.msg1159076#msg1159076
TXN has : https://etherscan.io/tx/0x8d176aee0c6f6ff49080119f984a4910b8540a87bbb26f593021b669c8b4e89c
-received ETH 0.00236561 Ether ($9.15) from 0x7eB17817952D5349f32Ef922169604495db469D6===Lenipiw
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TXN hash : https://etherscan.io/tx/0xdf6ec04908a39d4e9c1d57690a3e0331227286a3b3a30e02b451e33175a711c8
-received ETH 0.00221861 Ether ($8.58) from 0xb24aCC2F09b3ef0350A1EaB7f1061c7d913216f1===MRM
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-received ETH 0.00316488 Ether ($12.24) from 0xdc64E159E1Ee952EeB890B409a4c584aA842287C===Riya143
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TXN Hash : https://etherscan.io/tx/0x56dba71f445e64c8f5163bf5dafec34d2f5f199941782ae7e157b5e54d6a03d9

2. Dociko
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join ETNA or cyclops Bounty
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-received BNB from nostoman 0.0031 BNB ($1.51) 0x8986b7414640a366b5d3528ae06675f3463f4280
POA : https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=201845.msg1135857#msg1135857
TXN hash : https://bscscan.com/tx/0x2e97e071b07e912792c31eb3337c1e91402709a4664e88c4ba55f8422905570b
-sent ETH to nostoman 0.258260514084055075 Ether ($998.32) 0x8986b7414640a366b5d3528ae06675f3463f4280
TXN hash : https://etherscan.io/tx/0x003123c58f23a0163836f3c47f68114ca9337c58e102977661a05d21bb7fd72e

3.Tnoy30
https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=52969 (tnoy30 + 0x394f7E76C55e0c5BfdFb1AC4DC5565199de98c90)
join ETNA or cyclops Bounty
POA : https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=185752.msg1039848#msg1039848

#BSC
-Tnoy30 sent BNB to nostoman 0.014568 BNB ($7.08) 0x8986b7414640a366b5d3528ae06675f3463f4280
TXN Hash : https://bscscan.com/tx/0x90ae8c28f5ba4b120ffcbf33d6dc0502703d977da19ae8676969a67b334d7d59
-Tnoy30 sent BNB to Dociko  0.005666 BNB ($2.75) 0x200fdd65bef3b45da236ca24a7e7ee8f3d5cde3a
POA : https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=208008.msg1159105#msg1159105
TXN hash : https://bscscan.com/tx/0xa13bb82ade6fa1f299f4cbd843ec43a50675600176a0dd3502e25dfa441ee820
-Tnoy30 sent BNB to Lenipiw 0.00568 BNB ($2.76)0x144b32eb8efc348c5579245b3ec1472b3d018588
POA : https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=208008.msg1159073#msg1159073
TXN Hash : https://bscscan.com/tx/0xe481f401404aa6abb6ab61b99b1624441d372743bdbe931b138cd6f48f75090c
-Tnoy30 received BNB from nostoman 0.00319218 BNB ($1.55)  0x8986b7414640a366b5d3528ae06675f3463f4280
TXN Hash : https://bscscan.com/tx/0xa13eb942c89c1c17bae279c27ed44e7a0cf1fc9527456c2e17bf65e2b0d19d08
-Tnoy30 received BNB from nostoman 0.0031 BNB ($1.50)  0x8986b7414640a366b5d3528ae06675f3463f4280
TXN Hash : https://bscscan.com/tx/0x3be10a3bee8b25df75a598bc028f437da640c9ce81dcacb5fa7b9ab59204aada
-Tnoy30 sent BNB to nostoman 0.014568 BNB ($7.07) 0x8986b7414640a366b5d3528ae06675f3463f4280
TXN Hash : https://bscscan.com/tx/0x90ae8c28f5ba4b120ffcbf33d6dc0502703d977da19ae8676969a67b334d7d59
-Tnoy30 sent BNB to Dociko 0.005666 BNB ($2.75) 0x200fdd65bef3b45da236ca24a7e7ee8f3d5cde3a
TXN Hash :https://bscscan.com/tx/0xa13bb82ade6fa1f299f4cbd843ec43a50675600176a0dd3502e25dfa441ee820
-Tnoy30 Sent BNB to Lenipiw 0.00568 BNB ($2.76) 0x144b32eb8efc348c5579245b3ec1472b3d018588
TXN Hash : https://bscscan.com/tx/0xe481f401404aa6abb6ab61b99b1624441d372743bdbe931b138cd6f48f75090c

#ERC20
Tnoy30 sent  ETH 0.048473 Ether ($186.78)to 0xc4412d0ba685690d11bd70adcacd4d3e27082e8b ( X wallet )
TXN hash : https://etherscan.io/tx/0x0c430c1756b19d9525bd152baf88ef496ab10e4388ba8248569cb2a6bcf77e19

OKAY

Let's check the transaction of this wallet 0xc4412d0ba685690d11bd70adcacd4d3e27082e8b

   1. received BNB 0.00267478 BNB ($1.30) from Dociko 0xa8c805e679542f166a9092b7edb64d784aeb0bd2
   TXN hash : https://bscscan.com/tx/0x6eb7b8779cfd2d6d48a2f993a61cddaa1ee02159bb09eafae1b8c22f10512836
   2. received BNB 0.00267472 BNB ($1.30) from Galaxy 0xcee53e9b3d028791a8ba5e68bd51177eccb5a2aa
   TXN hash : https://bscscan.com/tx/0xcae5e585ba314493019758a55b15dfed4f364d13cf9c07e3a91b0837123e5e1c
   3. received BNB 0.005204985 BNB ($2.53) from Lenipiw 0x144b32eb8efc348c5579245b3ec1472b3d018588
   TXN hash : https://bscscan.com/tx/0x808458f96b153e1783b847436a14b9069209faf24b0ef6804f71ccf4cf6b08f1
   4. received BNB 5.69 BNB ($2,767.62) from nostoman ====== WOW funtastic
   0x8986b7414640a366b5d3528ae06675f3463f4280
   TXN hash : https://bscscan.com/tx/0x7c1782d4c063e6aad458bd83a57eed718c3275efe7ed1a0c90bee9c25a592e4d

-Tnoy30 sent ETH 0.00175661 Ether ($6.77) to Paglamon 0xca98375329f3c359a4871b8aba1c09ae75e75bd9
TXN hash : https://etherscan.io/tx/0x8d176aee0c6f6ff49080119f984a4910b8540a87bbb26f593021b669c8b4e89c
-Tnoy30 sent ETH 0.345418831552255054 Ether ($1,331.27) to nostoman 0x8986b7414640a366b5d3528ae06675f3463f4280 ====== WOW funtastic
TXN hash : https://etherscan.io/tx/0x55f1835293fae28f6080cc6794a6b0e237aa8735bd54a88423206b4171ce5dc3

4.taniyamariya
https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=52467 (taniyamariya + 0xC277bEAC195881e613720fB7198E3aC6B83f42b3)
join ETNA or cyclops Bounty
POA :https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=185752.msg1039838#msg1039838

-received BNB  0.0031 BNB ($1.51) from nostoman 0x8986b7414640a366b5d3528ae06675f3463f4280
TXN hash : https://bscscan.com/tx/0x9105342e1f38f73d62dd5fc7e329291e23fa55d9e01a092c5216fe23c5bd19bd
for  gas fee , sell ETNA on exchange
TXN hash :
https://bscscan.com/tx/0xf9a5bcbc5f284228a3c740ffa8ad17d34aefc7b3e2a3cd9736f45bf1bd59381f
https://bscscan.com/tx/0x884b9de52d0642ce7a1e735416553a30057c8626b8142ca25bd01870faa93d53
-sent BNB 0.00252478 BNB ($1.23) to Nostoman 0x8986b7414640a366b5d3528ae06675f3463f4280
TXN hash : https://bscscan.com/tx/0xcbcffa415f0815f65053a5f31b1997108f83b9e311cfc2cf738c10c3a9bd7f92

what do you think ???

5. GAlaxy
https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=74552 (galaxy + 0xcEE53e9B3D028791A8ba5E68Bd51177ECCB5A2aA)
join ETNA or cyclops Bounty
POA :https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=185752.msg1039843#msg1039843

the same thypical transaction such as taniyamariya
received BNB 0.0031 BNB ($1.50) from nostoman
TXN Hash : https://bscscan.com/tx/0xad356bd3115b478e5fdd29ceb800e1c32b6e3a7f123e5da592eb6658464d4fb0
then sell ETNA on exchange
TXN Hash :    https://bscscan.com/tx/0xf1ee1747c865c8ef259a00a117492c1674d9aade1bcc763c66fe2e9c4631d877
      https://bscscan.com/tx/0x91f844f463abc261695cf11470ef02241b9ce0f531932739b6fc47316e8f9aea

sent BNB 0.00267472 BNB ($1.30) to galaxy 0xcee53e9b3d028791a8ba5e68bd51177eccb5a2aa
TXN hash : https://bscscan.com/tx/0xcae5e585ba314493019758a55b15dfed4f364d13cf9c07e3a91b0837123e5e1c


Okay..
Lets discussing
all gas  has been transfered from this account

https://bscscan.com/address/0x8986B7414640a366B5D3528aE06675f3463f4280
Do you know who is he ??
Check it
https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=201845.msg1135857#msg1135857

Is your account, Nostoman ? that's funtastic... much WOW
 
Do you  remember  that, Nostoman? Have you woken up from your Amnesia?
 
  Remember this..
Don't underestimate the babystep account.
Baby's steps are sacred, even though in the previous debate there was a mod that underestimated baby's screams..
Unfortunately, I'm junior member now...hhahhaha


Judges,
Please recomd to ban those accounts, they will give bad effect for forum

Paglamon, galaxy, Tnoy30, Lenipiw, ,MRM, Riya143, Dociko, Tanimariya,

Of course nostoman, the man behind the accounts.


 
  Hello Admin, President and VP..
 
 
Can I become a DT  or Scam Buster from this  my investigation...??

I'll share other multy accounts again..
on going..

thanks
Title: Re: Cheater Bounty Bitgame
Post by: dragononcrypto on October 20, 2021, 08:02:40 PM
Don't underestimate the babystep account.

I never did. Much wow.

Judges,
Please recomd to ban those accounts, they will give bad effect for forum

Paglamon, galaxy, Tnoy30, Lenipiw, ,MRM, Riya143, Dociko, Tanimariya,

Of course nostoman, the man behind the accounts.

We don't ban users, only tag or moderate them. Judges will decide over tagging with clone (duplicate profile) or not verified (suspected multi) status.


Hello Admin, President and VP..

Can I become a DT  or Scam Buster from this  my investigation...??

Yes, added to D team for an exceptional investigation. Scam Buster is reserved for scammers rather than mutlti-accounts.

I'll share other multy accounts again..
on going..

Thanks, please do. You can use this thread for any future investigations:
https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=97966.0
Title: Re: Cheater Bounty Bitgame
Post by: Abang Jago on October 20, 2021, 08:50:30 PM

Yes, added to D team for an exceptional investigation. Scam Buster is reserved for scammers rather than mutlti-accounts.

Thank sir, tommorow I'll share connected multy accounts
Title: Re: Cheater Bounty Bitgame
Post by: Nostoman on October 21, 2021, 09:41:31 AM
I am only user of Nostoman account. All of users releted with me. Any anyone need gas fee. I will give them gas fee. Because I am buy-seller on BD. So many transaction will be match with me. So I think this investigation releted with under kindergarten. Because all account already got susfeted tag. So clam down.

(https://i.ibb.co/j3KNv51/IMG-20211021-132845.jpg)



Note: if any BD people need gas fee for transaction, I will give them. And also buy sell. Only my City user allow.


😎. Ice pro
Title: Re: Cheater Bounty Bitgame
Post by: Abang Jago on October 21, 2021, 10:05:53 AM
I am only user of Nostoman account. All of users releted with me. Any anyone need gas fee. I will give them gas fee. Because I am buy-seller on BD. So many transaction will be match with me. So I think this investigation releted with under kindergarten. Because all account already got susfeted tag. So clam down.

(https://i.ibb.co/j3KNv51/IMG-20211021-132845.jpg)



Note: if any BD people need gas fee for transaction, I will give them. And also buy sell. Only my City user allow.


😎. Ice pro

It's funny..
I"m not A child man..

 must believe your story



ETH 0.345418831552255054 Ether ($1,331.27) is gas ??
TXN hash : https://etherscan.io/tx/0x55f1835293fae28f6080cc6794a6b0e237aa8735bd54a88423206b4171ce5dc3

5.69 BNB ($2,767.62) , Is  It gas ??
TXN hash : https://bscscan.com/tx/0x7c1782d4c063e6aad458bd83a57eed718c3275efe7ed1a0c90bee9c25a592e4d

also 0.258260514084055075 Ether ($998.32) is gas ??
TXN hash : https://etherscan.io/tx/0x003123c58f23a0163836f3c47f68114ca9337c58e102977661a05d21bb7fd72e


you always do the same, and at the previous...  admin has forgiven you..
for now I hope no..........


Title: Re: Cheater Bounty Bitgame
Post by: Abang Jago on October 21, 2021, 10:08:42 AM
If the authority give at least 1 week to complete their kyc that should be appreciable. what do you think about it?

Hello....Ranaprime
I want to tell you about fairy tails...
do you want to hear it...
About someone who has multiple accounts..
For now... I think you don't have to fill KYC again

Okay... listen to me... ranaprime

proof :
Ranaprime(0xf49EDB11F718Ae5ccADdDD7a2DDA67773a85a8d0)
POA : https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=181653.msg1021241#msg1021241
>>> ranaprime sent  0.239026791330656231 BNB ($118.70) to 0x71c55cb3713d615cab4c6276e564107d9be48808
TXN hash : https://bscscan.com/tx/0x5502b0fef21131761986c4cb95542c3b6c9187afdba598e73f1f9cffa84e6d98

Lets check this wallet 0x71c55cb3713d615cab4c6276e564107d9be48808 ( Wallet 1 )

>>> 0x0e8dcdde8f9c9e1bed3b6f3b6735e222cd4087c5 sent 0.025 BNB ($12.44) to 0x71c55cb3713d615cab4c6276e564107d9be48808
 TXN hash : https://bscscan.com/tx/0x97bead6554a9c75550e790fbc320dcce201e21d4c2034983816e066f5eced181
Who is 0x0e8dcdde8f9c9e1bed3b6f3b6735e222cd4087c5 ?
Asad
POA : https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=218981.msg1194480#msg1194480


>>>0xa21af62ee6cc95d509fdeebaa06d825103117db4 sent 0.06204425569218877 BNB ($30.90) to 0x71c55cb3713d615cab4c6276e564107d9be48808
Who is 0xa21af62ee6cc95d509fdeebaa06d825103117db4 ?
Logitech50
POA : https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=209485.msg1164770#msg1164770
TXN hash : https://bscscan.com/tx/0x1e1592744c3602d23d8ea1a7557a5391981499062bc75a29fb35b1beacb934cf

>>>0x0e8dcdde8f9c9e1bed3b6f3b6735e222cd4087c5 ( Asad ) sent 0.033 BNB ($16.43) to 0x71c55cb3713d615cab4c6276e564107d9be48808
TXN hash : https://bscscan.com/tx/0x054219a8f6f3e77f7714df13d56e2762ceb5f94e77144211f93013e0f5fbafe7


>>> 0x5d4195ae9cdff7f32501ba82aeb53860c05cc191 sent 0.02417506 BNB ($12.02) to 0x71c55cb3713d615cab4c6276e564107d9be48808
TXN hash : https://bscscan.com/tx/0xfb4a0fa3a249af78bd63af4928451b1a7d51559a3f11e18b05301e3489175a9f

Who is 0x5d4195ae9cdff7f32501ba82aeb53860c05cc191 ??
Let see ...
Dark Knight
POA : https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=228094.msg1217359#msg1217359


Lets check this wallet 0x5d4195ae9cdff7f32501ba82aeb53860c05cc191 ( Dark Knight )

>>>0x4ff56dc5524e89d7ad532b4a89c032a2852fdefe sent 0.000395 BNB ($0.19) to 0x5d4195ae9cdff7f32501ba82aeb53860c05cc191
 Who is 0x4ff56dc5524e89d7ad532b4a89c032a2852fdefe ???
C 98
POA : https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=209765.msg1167310#msg1167310
1. TXN hash : https://bscscan.com/tx/0x19b77f6c250c1f61deb9ea6fa4b301b85599cf45d4af8a760c50bf7bc66b63d5
2. TXN hash : https://bscscan.com/tx/0xae3e02421a50edf1ad3db6d95e7b109b4e56ed87d1304eae0312b198f02915c7
3. TXN hash : https://bscscan.com/tx/0xf0e650b9fdd5ce6ad4b771d10613acef9f0ac8663e9ebc61fc6d4db9bd363f3b
4. TXN hash : https://bscscan.com/tx/0x4729c8136416262f23bef640046a8413f3b7de45c51fcd50642aabcd328aba73


>>>0xb196f890f00a71147e08c71a7d173291c95ec8c9 sent 0.0005566 BNB ($0.27) to 0x5d4195ae9cdff7f32501ba82aeb53860c05cc191
Who is 0xb196f890f00a71147e08c71a7d173291c95ec8c9 ??
Bad leyar
POA : https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=211798.msg1172790#msg1172790
TXN Hash : https://bscscan.com/tx/0xbbd1a0ad4fb4dbd5aff31b9691e7cb5c3048ca73a9b2e772c4ad7ae68bf98f14

>>>0xb196f890f00a71147e08c71a7d173291c95ec8c9 ( Bad Leyar ) sent 0.0005 BNB ($0.24) to 0x5d4195ae9cdff7f32501ba82aeb53860c05cc191
TXN Hash : https://bscscan.com/tx/0x2b04d27e445e861260c4a202029ceefb831cf8f5b30dd61e108a1c49eb650b36

>>>0xb196f890f00a71147e08c71a7d173291c95ec8c9 ( Bad Leyar ) sent 0.00052 BNB ($0.25)0x5d4195ae9cdff7f32501ba82aeb53860c05cc191
TXN Hash : https://bscscan.com/tx/0x727bd820231235d0acad1a29f27c78c9c1eaa3a085be4401d96e43dfc41e1b10

>>>0x22f784419c5729355fbc1b1013164d18af29198c sent 0.001098432 BNB ($0.54) to 0x5d4195ae9cdff7f32501ba82aeb53860c05cc191
Who is 0x22f784419c5729355fbc1b1013164d18af29198c ?
Fighter
POA : https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=216082.msg1196438#msg1196438
TXN Hash : https://bscscan.com/tx/0xa2b886e4dd18c806106f8bf87bfed1426f7b98d68cc6c63170848d265c67e81b


>>>0x751f0bc8892de57cf88b0b559c4a34eb057c4741 sent 0.0007 BNB ($0.34) to 0x5d4195ae9cdff7f32501ba82aeb53860c05cc191
https://bscscan.com/tx/0xc8dcb520677333fc8a2b40260e229fc63719e0450b1cf86e0c9e9bcb1a2b8c49
Who is 0x751f0bc8892de57cf88b0b559c4a34eb057c4741 ?
bmw1
POA : https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=218981.msg1194687#msg1194687


>>>0xe516e26c4066337ac1585a4931855c222cf50bf0 sent 0.000565072 BNB ($0.28) to 0x5d4195ae9cdff7f32501ba82aeb53860c05cc191
Who is 0xe516e26c4066337ac1585a4931855c222cf50bf0 ?
ExtraPoint
POA : https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=211798.msg1172656#msg1172656

TXN hash : https://bscscan.com/tx/0x3749c50c6993f93b8a1ac4c13ec86ec682625dec5aef58f3d6e102586a4c7631


Hello Admin, President, VP and judges..
What do you think ???
In my investigation,
I think 0x71c55cb3713d615cab4c6276e564107d9be48808 is main wallet.
ranaprime, Asad, Logitech50,Dark Knight, C98, Bad Leyar,Fighter, bmw1 , ExtraPoint ..
Their wallet connected..



NEXT..
other multy account will be shared soon..


to be continue...

Title: Re: Cheater Bounty Bitgame
Post by: Jokers on October 21, 2021, 10:54:23 AM
to be continue...

Go on! +karma
It would be interesting to see the entire picture. If all that connections would be only between suspected accounts that would say a lot I guess. ???
Title: Re: Cheater Bounty Bitgame
Post by: Nostoman on October 21, 2021, 10:58:45 AM
I am only user of Nostoman account. All of users releted with me. Any anyone need gas fee. I will give them gas fee. Because I am buy-seller on BD. So many transaction will be match with me. So I think this investigation releted with under kindergarten. Because all account already got susfeted tag. So clam down.

Note: if any BD people need gas fee for transaction, I will give them. And also buy sell. Only my City user allow.


😎. Ice pro

It's funny..
I"m not A child man..

 must believe your story



ETH 0.345418831552255054 Ether ($1,331.27) is gas ??
TXN hash : https://etherscan.io/tx/0x55f1835293fae28f6080cc6794a6b0e237aa8735bd54a88423206b4171ce5dc3

5.69 BNB ($2,767.62) , Is  It gas ??
TXN hash : https://bscscan.com/tx/0x7c1782d4c063e6aad458bd83a57eed718c3275efe7ed1a0c90bee9c25a592e4d

also 0.258260514084055075 Ether ($998.32) is gas ??
TXN hash : https://etherscan.io/tx/0x003123c58f23a0163836f3c47f68114ca9337c58e102977661a05d21bb7fd72e


you always do the same, and at the previous...  admin has forgiven you..
for now I hope no..........



What exactly? Did you read my post well? Didn't I tell here, I am buy-seller on BD?

Because I am buy-seller on BD.

Note: if any BD people need gas fee for transaction, I will give them. And also buy sell. Only my City user allow.


And also buy sell.

Abang Jago, you need read well. Then you can deliver comment.
Title: Re: Cheater Bounty Bitgame
Post by: Abang Jago on October 21, 2021, 11:20:57 AM
hello nostoman,

can you show the conversation during your buying and selling?
I will match all the transactions above..
All transactions above...

okay ... man

I remind you again..
I'm not a child,  I was already playing crypto when you're still asking  money from your parents.

You think  this  Jr. member rank  is a child...
hahahaha...
Don't challenge me to a proof...

Show your prove..
We match together..
If you can...
Title: Re: Cheater Bounty Bitgame
Post by: Nostoman on October 21, 2021, 11:36:27 AM
I love to have fun but not here. I can't throw away all the evidence here. I don't have time to find all the evidence or documents at the moment. There are no children here, everyone is a legendary figure. Put oil your own meshine.
Title: Re: Cheater Bounty Bitgame
Post by: Abang Jago on October 21, 2021, 12:22:37 PM
Every court  is a battle of evidence.
Arguments are needed if there is evidence.
If just have a reason  without proof. 

it's  "bullshit"
Title: Re: Cheater Bounty Bitgame
Post by: Nostoman on October 21, 2021, 02:15:14 PM
Every court  is a battle of evidence.
Arguments are needed if there is evidence.
If just have a reason  without proof. 

it's  "bullshit"

If you want all the evidence, I can give it here. But I have very little time like this. I will post all the evidence here. I'm a little out, will post very soon. However, I will strongly demand the return of some more accounts to the admin. I have no idea or time about all these transactions, I will post only considering the fans.
Title: Re: Cheater Bounty Bitgame
Post by: Nostoman on October 21, 2021, 03:11:14 PM
Every court  is a battle of evidence.
Arguments are needed if there is evidence.
If just have a reason  without proof. 

it's  "bullshit"


I think this is enough.


 (https://i.ibb.co/FJ6NQyn/IMG-20211021-182943.jpg)

(https://i.ibb.co/94P6SnK/received-372533511279663.jpg)

(https://i.ibb.co/37QZydZ/IMG-20211021-183021.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/5WCcQfz/IMG-20211021-181621.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/sJmcDHP/IMG-20211021-181745.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/mCF8MnR/IMG-20211021-181929.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/52J3bjc/IMG-20211021-182013.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/6ByrRdb/IMG-20211021-182104.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/Gp81wY1/IMG-20211021-180016.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/HdkVgZz/IMG-20211021-180031.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/zsW1ZR1/IMG-20211021-180118.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/NCpxh0F/IMG-20211021-180141.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/fFMpjkN/IMG-20211021-180404.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/HhjMBYb/IMG-20211021-180441.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/cC1Q07H/IMG-20211021-180532.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/nQKry2w/IMG-20211021-180551.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/LhRcBky/IMG-20211021-180705.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/DLkWYD2/IMG-20211021-174924.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/b5MkQSd/IMG-20211021-174941.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/87rxfRC/received-160893652849593.gif)
(https://i.ibb.co/6WTrZTD/IMG-20211021-175033.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/9q5JDmW/IMG-20211021-175323.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/Db34X7j/IMG-20211021-175348.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/yQHvzh8/IMG-20211021-175403.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/VHsbt0x/IMG-20211021-175508.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/d6mzKXq/IMG-20211021-175616.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/5j14rYy/IMG-20211021-175707.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/k161Nvg/received-672125403414387.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/2591GXp/IMG-20211021-175816.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/vjVSgpf/IMG-20211021-175845.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/Vp74dmt/IMG-20211021-175928.jpg)







mini bank statement:

(https://i.ibb.co/rygCNjS/IMG-20211021-174624.jpg)

(https://i.ibb.co/FKshLk0/IMG-20211021-174745.jpg)




If anyone want to know about my more documents. They are welcome in my country. I think they need my full document.


I think many and more transaction/address releted with me. Abang Jago if you can find out. You can post here.


And I think you are not jr. Member. Big 4chan player. Clam down. Don't waste your time for fud reason. Because I have no time about this. Because I have many work.
Title: Re: Cheater Bounty Bitgame
Post by: Abang Jago on October 21, 2021, 03:32:27 PM
childish...
really  funny...
those 're not proof...

Show the prove about this transaction..
 which shows the conversation about buy and sale..
date... and show amount
We will match to this TXN hash..

I don't ask about your business, but about your prove...

ETH 0.345418831552255054 Ether ($1,331.27) is gas ??
TXN hash : https://etherscan.io/tx/0x55f1835293fae28f6080cc6794a6b0e237aa8735bd54a88423206b4171ce5dc3

5.69 BNB ($2,767.62) , Is  It gas ??
TXN hash : https://bscscan.com/tx/0x7c1782d4c063e6aad458bd83a57eed718c3275efe7ed1a0c90bee9c25a592e4d

also 0.258260514084055075 Ether ($998.32) is gas ??
TXN hash : https://etherscan.io/tx/0x003123c58f23a0163836f3c47f68114ca9337c58e102977661a05d21bb7fd72e


let the judges to decide....
Title: Re: Cheater Bounty Bitgame
Post by: Nostoman on October 21, 2021, 03:43:57 PM
Really ridiculous.  I have no time mate. You can research. I will focus other work. You can claim justice.
Title: Re: Cheater Bounty Bitgame
Post by: admin on October 21, 2021, 07:57:06 PM
Guys guys ... i see some drama unfolding, i didn't go through everything, not in the mood now

so i will start with answering some questions then when i read the rest will answer any remaining question if left.

this forum is not about exercising authority in an aggressive way, but being fair and clear (sometimes we fail, but we try our best)

- concerning same person on different forums: this issue should be handled by Bounty manager, if it is the same person on our forum it is another story.

- if same person on our forum:
 + if we can prove with ip or something specific like data provided from bounty managers, we label the user accounts as duplicate.
 + if we can not prove, but we highly suspect , we give the need verification (NOT verified badge )

Need verification can be removed by getting a KYC, but thanks to Nostoman the kyc have been paused.

The issue with Nostoman is not a clear cut, he basically has accounts for his entire family and friends, it is more complicated than a simple multi account. Thus some of the accounts that i suspect are associated with him has "duplicate" and some have "not verified".

Should the need verification be changed to something more aggressive? I don't know, but from our side these accounts do not qualify to any of our events, thus a bounty manager should take our advice and ask these accounts to verify.

as i said i used to do KYC, but Nostoman had his friends and family also submit KYC. sensing something is off, i had the KYC on hold since then.

The approach is difficult, because from a technical point of view everything is in accordance with the rule / or can not be proven otherwise.
The only way i can be sure that everything is legit, is to buy a plane ticket and fly to bangladesh to check Nostoman village, and see if they are all working in bounty or it is a single guy pulling the strings.

soon i will be rolling a more sophisticated kyc procedure, then all the need verification can apply for kyc to remove the tag.
Title: Re: Cheater Bounty Bitgame
Post by: admin on October 21, 2021, 08:32:14 PM
Nostoman did lose his moderation over his forum sections due to this, later we granted him a moderation over a new section because he has a lot of drive.

he is probably also a mod on bitcoin garden, and has "his accounts" over there as well, and i am sure he is on bitcointalk with "his accounts" ...

thus this issue is not an issue that concern only our forum, maybe it is more visible here than on bitcointalk because we have less bounties and less members.
but also on our forum, we are helping the bounty managers by labeling thus precisely addressing the potential duplicate accounts, something that is done rarely on btt and not even done on other forums.

There is a solution to all this bounty madness, the project codename is "Nostoman". Hopefully you will hear about it very soon.

this said, the amount of hustle that nostoman does is impressive, in a way i do respect the guy.

for instance, recently, we were trying to reach a partnership deal with a project, and we were surprised that nostoman already offered them our offer (for double the price) , i mean what the freaking ffffk. This dude is really impressive, either he has an army of people or he is living crypto 24/7 on redbulls.

this said, the partnership almost fell through and till now is not yet done just because of nostoman offer, but hey the guy deserves some respect.

Title: Re: Cheater Bounty Bitgame
Post by: Freemind on October 21, 2021, 09:28:48 PM
And those of us who work every day to grow the forum without cheating the rewards and without trying to scam anyone, don't we deserve respect?

You speak without saying anything and you don't care what Nostoman does, and by doing so, this forum will never grow or be taken seriously.
Title: Re: Cheater Bounty Bitgame
Post by: admin on October 21, 2021, 09:49:18 PM
And those of us who work every day to grow the forum without cheating the rewards and without trying to scam anyone, don't we deserve respect?

You speak without saying anything and you don't care what Nostoman does, and by doing so, this forum will never grow or be taken seriously.

guy, first we need to shill, then take a deep breath, then remember we are not here to wage wars,
of course everyone working hard deserves respect .
furthermore, the time i spent on investing nostoman and his network is enough to write a phd dissertation.
nostoman did suffer as i mentioned above, he lost his mod status and his moderation over multiple sections
he also got all the accounts that i know of labeled either duplicate or not verified.

if i can answer this question without hesitation then i would have no problem giving stricter punishment:

The question is:

Are all these accounts run by nostoman, or he is indeed employing his friends and family ?

I had KYC submissions from most of these accounts, and indeed the people submitting the KYC , holding a paper with their username and id , are all unique ....
which leads me to believe that somehow, nostoman is working or employing his friends and family ... but i am not sure
it could be also possible that he is handling all these accounts.
bottom line, i am not sure thus did not give duplicate account on most of them, instead gave them not verified with a warning sign.

concerning ban, we do not do this here, not without a reason like spam, we have multiple fair punishments allowing this forum to stay friendly and fair.
Title: Re: Cheater Bounty Bitgame
Post by: Freemind on October 21, 2021, 10:06:52 PM
And those of us who work every day to grow the forum without cheating the rewards and without trying to scam anyone, don't we deserve respect?

You speak without saying anything and you don't care what Nostoman does, and by doing so, this forum will never grow or be taken seriously.

guy, first we need to shill, then take a deep breath, then remember we are not here to wage wars,
of course everyone working hard deserves respect .
furthermore, the time i spent on investing nostoman and his network is enough to write a phd dissertation.
nostoman did suffer as i mentioned above, he lost his mod status and his moderation over multiple sections
he also got all the accounts that i know of labeled either duplicate or not verified.

if i can answer this question without hesitation then i would have no problem giving stricter punishment:

The question is:

Are all these accounts run by nostoman, or he is indeed employing his friends and family ?

I had KYC submissions from most of these accounts, and indeed the people submitting the KYC , holding a paper with their username and id , are all unique ....
which leads me to believe that somehow, nostoman is working or employing his friends and family ... but i am not sure
it could be also possible that he is handling all these accounts.
bottom line, i am not sure thus did not give duplicate account on most of them, instead gave them not verified with a warning sign.

concerning ban, we do not do this here, not without a reason like spam, we have multiple fair punishments allowing this forum to stay friendly and fair.

I have not spoken of any war. What I have said is that due to Nostoman's bad intentions, trying to scam $ 2,500 from a project, my reputation is not in a good place. I don't know if Nostoman employs Apple staff, I don't care either. To stop being a mod is not to suffer, it is only to lose privileges, and if Nostoman has lost those privileges it is due to his bad intentions.

And now answer me a question please: do you really think that when a BM comes and reads all this they will believe that Nostoman has his village here? when Nostoman didn't want to respond to @Abang Jago's evidence?
Title: Re: Cheater Bounty Bitgame
Post by: admin on October 21, 2021, 10:27:13 PM
And those of us who work every day to grow the forum without cheating the rewards and without trying to scam anyone, don't we deserve respect?

You speak without saying anything and you don't care what Nostoman does, and by doing so, this forum will never grow or be taken seriously.

guy, first we need to shill, then take a deep breath, then remember we are not here to wage wars,
of course everyone working hard deserves respect .
furthermore, the time i spent on investing nostoman and his network is enough to write a phd dissertation.
nostoman did suffer as i mentioned above, he lost his mod status and his moderation over multiple sections
he also got all the accounts that i know of labeled either duplicate or not verified.

if i can answer this question without hesitation then i would have no problem giving stricter punishment:

The question is:

Are all these accounts run by nostoman, or he is indeed employing his friends and family ?

I had KYC submissions from most of these accounts, and indeed the people submitting the KYC , holding a paper with their username and id , are all unique ....
which leads me to believe that somehow, nostoman is working or employing his friends and family ... but i am not sure
it could be also possible that he is handling all these accounts.
bottom line, i am not sure thus did not give duplicate account on most of them, instead gave them not verified with a warning sign.

concerning ban, we do not do this here, not without a reason like spam, we have multiple fair punishments allowing this forum to stay friendly and fair.

I have not spoken of any war. What I have said is that due to Nostoman's bad intentions, trying to scam $ 2,500 from a project, my reputation is not in a good place. I don't know if Nostoman employs Apple staff, I don't care either. To stop being a mod is not to suffer, it is only to lose privileges, and if Nostoman has lost those privileges it is due to his bad intentions.

But from what I see, it doesn't matter...
freemind
if he is accused of scam then the judges will decide not me
but as i stated above, i can not prove that these accounts are run by him
the best i can do is improve the "not verified" badge to make it more clear
Title: Re: Cheater Bounty Bitgame
Post by: Jokers on October 21, 2021, 10:40:36 PM
Are all these accounts run by nostoman, or he is indeed employing his friends and family ?

If mostly anyone can see no difference, then what is a difference? "If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck". ???
Title: Re: Cheater Bounty Bitgame
Post by: admin on October 21, 2021, 10:51:10 PM
Are all these accounts run by nostoman, or he is indeed employing his friends and family ?

If mostly anyone can see no difference, then what is a difference? "If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck". ???
agree
but the issue is that half of them submitted for KYC , and would have passed the kyc if i didn't decide to pause the entire process

now apply this logic anywhere ,
binance ? passed
coinbase ? passed

so i need to take a decision on assumption.
furthermore , the Not verified tag can offer same value as duplicate tag
and leaves the decision in the hand of the BM
Title: Re: Cheater Bounty Bitgame
Post by: Jokers on October 22, 2021, 12:14:25 AM
agree
but the issue is that half of them submitted for KYC , and would have passed the kyc if i didn't decide to pause the entire process

It is not a big surprise that KYC does not work as it could be expected. If those accounts behaved as regular users, there would be no questions from the very begining. But they behave as a "ducks". And that led to suspections, and only after that IP connections or blockchain connections were found as well. There is another one moment: there are tens of accounts with this problem mentioned in this topic, and only two of them came and started to try to deal with it. Statistics says it does not work that way usually. There is no as well topic in Bangali language where these accounts stormed about it (if they are not as good in English). If I would get such a problem I'd definitely first shared my disturbance with others. Is it statistically possible that all those tens of people are with the same calm temperament? I doubt. If all those accounts belonged to a different people there should be a storm topic of many pages where all of them would talk at once sharing their opinions on a common problem. I see "ducks". ???
Title: Re: Cheater Bounty Bitgame
Post by: admin on October 22, 2021, 12:57:23 AM
agree
but the issue is that half of them submitted for KYC , and would have passed the kyc if i didn't decide to pause the entire process

It is not a big surprise that KYC does not work as it could be expected. If those accounts behaved as regular users, there would be no questions from the very begining. But they behave as a "ducks". And that led to suspections, and only after that IP connections or blockchain connections were found as well. There is another one moment: there are tens of accounts with this problem mentioned in this topic, and only two of them came and started to try to deal with it. Statistics says it does not work that way usually. There is no as well topic in Bangali language where these accounts stormed about it (if they are not as good in English). If I would get such a problem I'd definitely first shared my disturbance with others. Is it statistically possible that all those tens of people are with the same calm temperament? I doubt. If all those accounts belonged to a different people there should be a storm topic of many pages where all of them would talk at once sharing their opinions on a common problem. I see "ducks". ???
i was just giving arguments and counterarguments
it is not my say here, judges decide
Title: Re: Cheater Bounty Bitgame
Post by: dragononcrypto on October 22, 2021, 01:42:03 AM
What I have said is that due to Nostoman's bad intentions, trying to scam $ 2,500 from a project, my reputation is not in a good place.
freemind
if he is accused of scam then the judges will decide not me

I've summoned a Judge for the scam accusation referenced by Freemind. I've personally seen enough evidence that Nostoman stepped over the line.
Hopefully the Judges can take this from here. That's why they were elected by the community to judge certain cases.
Ambassador and President is also aware, as this concerns him.

"If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck". ???
Title: Re: Cheater Bounty Bitgame
Post by: admin on October 22, 2021, 02:15:28 AM
What I have said is that due to Nostoman's bad intentions, trying to scam $ 2,500 from a project, my reputation is not in a good place.
freemind
if he is accused of scam then the judges will decide not me

I've summoned a Judge for the scam accusation referenced by Freemind. I've personally seen enough evidence that Nostoman stepped over the line.
Hopefully the Judges can take this from here. That's why they were elected by the community to judge certain cases.
Ambassador and President is also aware, as this concerns him.

"If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck". ???

I am not comfortable with the idea of giving a scam badge for users using multiaccounts to join bounties
scam should be a badge for big scams or scam sites that steal funds.

also jokers have been doing a great job detecting many accounts that are suspicious, and we are flagging them with need verification

this section was created as you can see from section description to detect users that are multi accounts, and thus punish them accordingly by giving them the duplicate badge.

this is the extent of the operation of this section.

i went through all the profiles, and all of them already have "verification needed" thus the objection i see is a frustration on how these users can still join bounties.
the answer, it depends on the bounty manager.

and the suggestion that the badge should be changed into something like suspected multi account, is something that will be working on.

Title: Re: Cheater Bounty Bitgame
Post by: hair on October 22, 2021, 02:28:17 AM
I think the epidence abang jago is clear. this is a matter of forum reputation, if in btt will get negative trust and not allowed to participate in any bounty (except bm who is kind). what about att? does it need to be labeled "cheater"? I feel sorry that honest participants will get a little reward because multi-accounts
Title: Re: Cheater Bounty Bitgame
Post by: Abang Jago on October 22, 2021, 05:13:45 AM
nostoman..
 don't  you feel close to  admin as if  you're unbanned.. you're eternal.......Immortal...

 We're here to talk about the forum's reputation that  being damaged by people like you.

 Many BMs have started to leave this forum because of the many multi-accounts in this forum..

 ALL MODs, GMs, DTs, give your opinion here..
It's  for the  forum..

don't just shut up

Hopefully, Judges decide based on evidence, not just by the reason .

 remember it ...

 Yahoo 62278 doesn't open signature bounty anymore, why??
 check it..
Link :
https://t.me/c/1473369049/2541
https://t.me/c/1473369049/2542
Yahoo62278 said, honestly, cause altcoinstalk has barely any traffic
and half of altcoinstalk are the scammers booted from bitcointalk.

  bounty detective not open signature in altcoinstalks why??

 We are talking about the future of forum..

 Friendly doesn't mean accepting multiple accounts
Traffic doesn't mean allow multiple accounts..

All... it's about reputation..

thanks


note : I'll share other Multy account again.. It will be continued
 I don't care several accounts  attack my karma,
No matter..  ;D
Title: Re: Cheater Bounty Bitgame
Post by: admin on October 22, 2021, 11:03:32 AM
nostoman..
 don't  you feel close to  admin as if  you're unbanned.. you're eternal.......Immortal...

 We're here to talk about the forum's reputation that  being damaged by people like you.

 Many BMs have started to leave this forum because of the many multi-accounts in this forum..

 ALL MODs, GMs, DTs, give your opinion here..
It's  for the  forum..

don't just shut up

Hopefully, Judges decide based on evidence, not just by the reason .

 remember it ...

 Yahoo 62278 doesn't open signature bounty anymore, why??
 check it..
Link :
https://t.me/c/1473369049/2541
https://t.me/c/1473369049/2542
Yahoo62278 said, honestly, cause altcoinstalk has barely any traffic
and half of altcoinstalk are the scammers booted from bitcointalk.

  bounty detective not open signature in altcoinstalks why??

 We are talking about the future of forum..

 Friendly doesn't mean accepting multiple accounts
Traffic doesn't mean allow multiple accounts..

All... it's about reputation..

thanks


note : I'll share other Multy account again.. It will be continued
 I don't care several accounts  attack my karma,
No matter..  ;D

no forum is addressing the issue of multi account properly,
nostoman and the likes also have tons of multi account on bitcointalk and any other forum

anyway, i am fed up with the aggressive approach that is used every-time there is an issue,
we can resolve the conflicts in a much friendlier way, no need for such drama.

on btt they have negative trust, here we have the duplicate badge or not verified badge , same idea
scam badge is reserved and will not be used for bounty and airdrop participation ...

also we talked about the ban, we don't want to have people banned if they make mistakes, there is a proper punishment for everything.

in btt, the negative trust is one solution for all, here we have multiple badges that are much fairer :
- scam badge
- duplicate account badge
- need verification badge
- plagia badge
- spammer badge
- strickes
...

concerning trust, there is no reason to have less trust, as i mentioned above, all the mentioned accounts were labeled 'not verified' it is like being issued neg trust on btt, then it is the BM decision to allow the participation or not.

concerning traffic, true the btt traffic is much bigger, but also more bounties, thus logically same thing.

Title: Re: Cheater Bounty Bitgame
Post by: dragononcrypto on October 22, 2021, 06:51:52 PM
What I have said is that due to Nostoman's bad intentions, trying to scam $ 2,500 from a project, my reputation is not in a good place.
freemind
if he is accused of scam then the judges will decide not me

I've summoned a Judge for the scam accusation referenced by Freemind. I've personally seen enough evidence that Nostoman stepped over the line.
Hopefully the Judges can take this from here. That's why they were elected by the community to judge certain cases.
Ambassador and President is also aware, as this concerns him.

"If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck". ???

I am not comfortable with the idea of giving a scam badge for users using multiaccounts to join bounties
scam should be a badge for big scams or scam sites that steal funds.

This has nothing to do with mutli-accounts. It's about what freemind is referring to, hence Ambassadors and Judges have been made aware of the situation.

for instance, recently, we were trying to reach a partnership deal with a project, and we were surprised that nostoman already offered them our offer (for double the price)

this said, the partnership almost fell through and till now is not yet done just because of nostoman offer

Personally, I don't find losing a partnership deal because of overcharging a project by 100% to be impressive, and neither do others here.
You said it yourself: the partnership is not yet done because of nostoman's offer, while someone else closer to the team was already working on it.
Whether it's scammy behaviour or not is upto Judges to decide, to me it seems disruptive at minimum and was probably for selfish interests.
All in all, it doesn't look good trying to rip off a project. It makes a joke of this forum that a non-representative can act in this way.
Is falsely representing the forum an honourable thing to do? I don't think so. Is it scammy? If dishonourable, quite possibly.

Quote from: Scam Definition
a dishonest scheme; a fraud.
Title: Re: Cheater Bounty Bitgame
Post by: admin on October 23, 2021, 02:07:54 AM


Quote
I have not spoken of any war. What I have said is that due to Nostoman's bad intentions, trying to scam $ 2,500 from a project, my reputation is not in a good place.

trying to sell for a higher price is not scam, that is the concept on which resellers work.

the message you sent me freemind, clearly states that he says he is a mod not a representative.
obviously this is bad when the project in question is in talk with another mod.

but on the flip side, i wish more people did what he did, took initiative to contact projects.

I know some are doing a lot of work, but i guess the blame can be put on me for this one, as i did not precise in the post the way the offer can be resold.

many are wondering why i am defending nostoman.
7 reasons.
1-he is the only user with a donor badge, he worked very hard to get it, given he's from bangladesh that's probably harder than most places (he paid for it partially by selling ad space on our forum).
2- he has a lot of drive, i wish we can direct his drive toward the best interest of everyone.
3- i do believe he is helping his family/friends/village , how do i know that ? i don't, but asking 20 people to stand for a photo with id and username feels like a group operation rather than 1 user thing.
4- he has already been punished, stripped from 5-6 sections moderation and all his multi accounts that i know of have been labeled by duplicate or verification needed.
5- he is being attacked for something that rely on the bounty manager's final say, meaning instead of attacking him, just inform the bounty manager that "verification needed" is like red trust, problem solved.
6- I am not sure all these accounts are in his network, as i suspect they are more than 1 network, but i can't prove it.
7- there will be always reasons to attack others, reasons will evolve till they are ridiculous ... we launched this forum because our project account got banned from btt for something minor. Banning is not a solution, it is the lack of one. It is a sign of a totalitarian reign. A forum that is fair and clear should never resort to banning with regular members.
Title: Re: Cheater Bounty Bitgame
Post by: Nostoman on October 23, 2021, 08:02:09 AM
I don't understand what's going on here. I always value sharing offers with any project, it's great for forum users and for everyone.


24/7 My team works with cryptocurrencies. Earnings, Trading, Design, Advice, Partnership, Promoting, Bounty, and much more.

I can farming many accounts here. But I am not interested. Real where I am a man. If I were a robot, it would be possible. Wasting time taking me here, I think it’s stupid. Concentrate on your work. A lot of people I used to respect here, but they don’t deserve respect. I have multi-accounts in other forums, refrain from researching them here. Do not create a hostile environment for yourself. Because you can have multi-account in different forums. With the same name.
You will not find me on popular forums, transactions will not match. Because I'm not stupid. Only Bounty Hunters will match many transactions. Can I find out many multi but I am not interested. Please be careful you are not angel.


I have already offered five projects. He had bounty on two projects. Bounty is already going to start from btt. There were partnerships here on two more projects. I have canceled them because of such discussions. Those who do research on these bring work to the forum. I don't care about this account. Nastoman is dead. Think about it. Advise the admin to kill the account. I agree. Otherwise give duplicate tags. If killed, I will one day return to this forum with a much bigger project. The reality is that I have made my mark in the cryptocurrency industry, working, helping each other, getting acquainted with digital transactions. Giving someone else bamboo, or running after them with a sharp knife. Avoid these. Concentrate on yourself. Do something for the future community and for yourself.

I have made double offers on any project, not for fraud or scam. Those who have posted here with such mentality, if you can bring the partnership by trying it yourself.

5000 + 5000= 10k.

There was partnership. The discussion was already over though. But when my mind is being hit here, those are the ones I rejected them. Again another project partnership has been canceled by a representative or moderator. It's blame? Anyone can apply ban for me to the admin.

@admin, please give them power, like noob accounts. I haven't no idea that is new multi. That will make something for Forum.

Apologies guys, i just dopped this topic. dont ask me question.
Title: Re: Cheater Bounty Bitgame
Post by: ranaprime on October 23, 2021, 08:07:49 AM
If the authority give at least 1 week to complete their kyc that should be appreciable. what do you think about it?

Hello....Ranaprime
I want to tell you about fairy tails...
do you want to hear it...
About someone who has multiple accounts..
For now... I think you don't have to fill KYC again

Okay... listen to me... ranaprime

proof :
Ranaprime(0xf49EDB11F718Ae5ccADdDD7a2DDA67773a85a8d0)
POA : https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=181653.msg1021241#msg1021241
>>> ranaprime sent  0.239026791330656231 BNB ($118.70) to 0x71c55cb3713d615cab4c6276e564107d9be48808
TXN hash : https://bscscan.com/tx/0x5502b0fef21131761986c4cb95542c3b6c9187afdba598e73f1f9cffa84e6d98

Lets check this wallet 0x71c55cb3713d615cab4c6276e564107d9be48808 ( Wallet 1 )

>>> 0x0e8dcdde8f9c9e1bed3b6f3b6735e222cd4087c5 sent 0.025 BNB ($12.44) to 0x71c55cb3713d615cab4c6276e564107d9be48808
 TXN hash : https://bscscan.com/tx/0x97bead6554a9c75550e790fbc320dcce201e21d4c2034983816e066f5eced181
Who is 0x0e8dcdde8f9c9e1bed3b6f3b6735e222cd4087c5 ?
Asad
POA : https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=218981.msg1194480#msg1194480


>>>0xa21af62ee6cc95d509fdeebaa06d825103117db4 sent 0.06204425569218877 BNB ($30.90) to 0x71c55cb3713d615cab4c6276e564107d9be48808
Who is 0xa21af62ee6cc95d509fdeebaa06d825103117db4 ?
Logitech50
POA : https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=209485.msg1164770#msg1164770
TXN hash : https://bscscan.com/tx/0x1e1592744c3602d23d8ea1a7557a5391981499062bc75a29fb35b1beacb934cf

>>>0x0e8dcdde8f9c9e1bed3b6f3b6735e222cd4087c5 ( Asad ) sent 0.033 BNB ($16.43) to 0x71c55cb3713d615cab4c6276e564107d9be48808
TXN hash : https://bscscan.com/tx/0x054219a8f6f3e77f7714df13d56e2762ceb5f94e77144211f93013e0f5fbafe7


>>> 0x5d4195ae9cdff7f32501ba82aeb53860c05cc191 sent 0.02417506 BNB ($12.02) to 0x71c55cb3713d615cab4c6276e564107d9be48808
TXN hash : https://bscscan.com/tx/0xfb4a0fa3a249af78bd63af4928451b1a7d51559a3f11e18b05301e3489175a9f

Who is 0x5d4195ae9cdff7f32501ba82aeb53860c05cc191 ??
Let see ...
Dark Knight
POA : https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=228094.msg1217359#msg1217359


Lets check this wallet 0x5d4195ae9cdff7f32501ba82aeb53860c05cc191 ( Dark Knight )

>>>0x4ff56dc5524e89d7ad532b4a89c032a2852fdefe sent 0.000395 BNB ($0.19) to 0x5d4195ae9cdff7f32501ba82aeb53860c05cc191
 Who is 0x4ff56dc5524e89d7ad532b4a89c032a2852fdefe ???
C 98
POA : https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=209765.msg1167310#msg1167310
1. TXN hash : https://bscscan.com/tx/0x19b77f6c250c1f61deb9ea6fa4b301b85599cf45d4af8a760c50bf7bc66b63d5
2. TXN hash : https://bscscan.com/tx/0xae3e02421a50edf1ad3db6d95e7b109b4e56ed87d1304eae0312b198f02915c7
3. TXN hash : https://bscscan.com/tx/0xf0e650b9fdd5ce6ad4b771d10613acef9f0ac8663e9ebc61fc6d4db9bd363f3b
4. TXN hash : https://bscscan.com/tx/0x4729c8136416262f23bef640046a8413f3b7de45c51fcd50642aabcd328aba73


>>>0xb196f890f00a71147e08c71a7d173291c95ec8c9 sent 0.0005566 BNB ($0.27) to 0x5d4195ae9cdff7f32501ba82aeb53860c05cc191
Who is 0xb196f890f00a71147e08c71a7d173291c95ec8c9 ??
Bad leyar
POA : https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=211798.msg1172790#msg1172790
TXN Hash : https://bscscan.com/tx/0xbbd1a0ad4fb4dbd5aff31b9691e7cb5c3048ca73a9b2e772c4ad7ae68bf98f14

>>>0xb196f890f00a71147e08c71a7d173291c95ec8c9 ( Bad Leyar ) sent 0.0005 BNB ($0.24) to 0x5d4195ae9cdff7f32501ba82aeb53860c05cc191
TXN Hash : https://bscscan.com/tx/0x2b04d27e445e861260c4a202029ceefb831cf8f5b30dd61e108a1c49eb650b36

>>>0xb196f890f00a71147e08c71a7d173291c95ec8c9 ( Bad Leyar ) sent 0.00052 BNB ($0.25)0x5d4195ae9cdff7f32501ba82aeb53860c05cc191
TXN Hash : https://bscscan.com/tx/0x727bd820231235d0acad1a29f27c78c9c1eaa3a085be4401d96e43dfc41e1b10

>>>0x22f784419c5729355fbc1b1013164d18af29198c sent 0.001098432 BNB ($0.54) to 0x5d4195ae9cdff7f32501ba82aeb53860c05cc191
Who is 0x22f784419c5729355fbc1b1013164d18af29198c ?
Fighter
POA : https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=216082.msg1196438#msg1196438
TXN Hash : https://bscscan.com/tx/0xa2b886e4dd18c806106f8bf87bfed1426f7b98d68cc6c63170848d265c67e81b


>>>0x751f0bc8892de57cf88b0b559c4a34eb057c4741 sent 0.0007 BNB ($0.34) to 0x5d4195ae9cdff7f32501ba82aeb53860c05cc191
https://bscscan.com/tx/0xc8dcb520677333fc8a2b40260e229fc63719e0450b1cf86e0c9e9bcb1a2b8c49
Who is 0x751f0bc8892de57cf88b0b559c4a34eb057c4741 ?
bmw1
POA : https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=218981.msg1194687#msg1194687


>>>0xe516e26c4066337ac1585a4931855c222cf50bf0 sent 0.000565072 BNB ($0.28) to 0x5d4195ae9cdff7f32501ba82aeb53860c05cc191
Who is 0xe516e26c4066337ac1585a4931855c222cf50bf0 ?
ExtraPoint
POA : https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=211798.msg1172656#msg1172656

TXN hash : https://bscscan.com/tx/0x3749c50c6993f93b8a1ac4c13ec86ec682625dec5aef58f3d6e102586a4c7631


Hello Admin, President, VP and judges..
What do you think ???
In my investigation,
I think 0x71c55cb3713d615cab4c6276e564107d9be48808 is main wallet.
ranaprime, Asad, Logitech50,Dark Knight, C98, Bad Leyar,Fighter, bmw1 , ExtraPoint ..
Their wallet connected..



NEXT..
other multy account will be shared soon..


to be continue...

@Abang jago
Dear, I summited my kyc last year and i don't know why it was not approved. Though I didn't inform the authority about it later.

@Ababg Jago, First of all i would like to thank for your work. I understand that you have entered in this forum to mark out duplicates account that is really appreciable. I know that you are a very experience one. Although your position in this forum as a junior member. I truly thank you. However you must provide authentic information. Otherwise many real users may be destroyed . You have got something related to my account. I am happy, you can tag it as soon as possible but sadly you will fail. I have no multy account. I am very surprised you to find some users with my account. Definitely you will find more and more account which are duplicates but remembers do not do anything that is prone to violence or suspicion. It is true that most of the times normally sell our assets with fill amount some time didn't have necessary gas fees as well. In this regard the trisection may mass for gas fee requirement. But i really want to the betterment for the forum as a legend. I have talked with various boutny managers. They point out some problems. I think those problems should be solved frist. Multiple account is certainly prohibited in this forum. To prevent it authority have to provide strict rules or laws in a innovative way. No more today. if you need any assistance in this regard i can help you. Thanks for your contribution. 
Title: Re: Cheater Bounty Bitgame
Post by: Freemind on October 23, 2021, 11:35:41 AM


Quote
I have not spoken of any war. What I have said is that due to Nostoman's bad intentions, trying to scam $ 2,500 from a project, my reputation is not in a good place.

trying to sell for a higher price is not scam, that is the concept on which resellers work.

the message you sent me freemind, clearly states that he says he is a mod not a representative.
obviously this is bad when the project in question is in talk with another mod.

but on the flip side, i wish more people did what he did, took initiative to contact projects.

I know some are doing a lot of work, but i guess the blame can be put on me for this one, as i did not precise in the post the way the offer can be resold.

many are wondering why i am defending nostoman.
7 reasons.
1-he is the only user with a donor badge, he worked very hard to get it, given he's from bangladesh that's probably harder than most places (he paid for it partially by selling ad space on our forum).
2- he has a lot of drive, i wish we can direct his drive toward the best interest of everyone.
3- i do believe he is helping his family/friends/village , how do i know that ? i don't, but asking 20 people to stand for a photo with id and username feels like a group operation rather than 1 user thing.
4- he has already been punished, stripped from 5-6 sections moderation and all his multi accounts that i know of have been labeled by duplicate or verification needed.
5- he is being attacked for something that rely on the bounty manager's final say, meaning instead of attacking him, just inform the bounty manager that "verification needed" is like red trust, problem solved.
6- I am not sure all these accounts are in his network, as i suspect they are more than 1 network, but i can't prove it.
7- there will be always reasons to attack others, reasons will evolve till they are ridiculous ... we launched this forum because our project account got banned from btt for something minor. Banning is not a solution, it is the lack of one. It is a sign of a totalitarian reign. A forum that is fair and clear should never resort to banning with regular members.

You still don't know if Nostoman is lying to you about the users or not, which he already did once because of what you said, if you look at the PoAs they will give you a clue, but they sure are coincidences of life, right?

Is this how a reseller works? Since when am I a reseller? LOL

I make deals without thinking of my own benefit, I make them with the benefit of the forum in mind.

When project reps see a price on the thread you wrote and then someone else asks for double the money, what do you think they will think?.

I have put the projects in contact with you directly, I have not asked for money, it is the BIG difference, but it does not matter, it will not happen again.

From my point of view, a "regular member" is the person who always (always) contributes something to the forum, not the person who only appears when there are bounties.
Title: Re: Cheater Bounty Bitgame
Post by: Abang Jago on October 23, 2021, 11:41:22 AM
I think this forum only need one member.
Who is he??
Nostoman....
So whatever the investigation that you did,
won't apply to nostoman..

Nostoman is never wrong..
     He  is an angel for this forum..

 So, free mind...
what you did honestly  for this forum is not worth than  nostoman cheating..

case closed
I won't continue the investigation... it's useless
Title: Re: Cheater Bounty Bitgame
Post by: admin on October 23, 2021, 12:29:42 PM
I think this forum only need one member.
Who is he??
Nostoman....
So whatever the investigation that you did,
won't apply to nostoman..

Nostoman is never wrong..
     He  is an angel for this forum..

 So, free mind...
what you did honestly  for this forum is not worth than  nostoman cheating..

case closed
I won't continue the investigation... it's useless


I am out of this discussion, i presented my points, let the judges and president decide.
however, if it is scam accusation, please open a post in the forum court section not in this one. this one is only for suspected multi accounts.

furthermore, Abang Jago, i do not like your attitude not one bit, i explained to you the reasoning and then you hover back like a little child throwing big titles and stirring nonsense. We talk with reason in these sections not emotions.

Freemind, obviously the offer should not be changed, but it is not within my powers, i now asked nicely from nostoman not to change the price, anyone is free to add an extra sum for management or keeping the section active or growing the section as long it is clear that this is not in the original price (original price can also be voting, thus the the project should decide what they want).

We do not have power and should not have power over what users do outside our forum, this is a point that i raised last time when the forum decided to grant a scam badge for a user that scammed a project that he was a member of. Who are we to put ourselves policemen of the crypto world ?
from my perspective, we need to only punish what is done on our forum, no more no less.


Title: Re: Cheater Bounty Bitgame
Post by: Freemind on October 23, 2021, 01:27:41 PM
Freemind, obviously the offer should not be changed, but it is not within my powers, i now asked nicely from nostoman not to change the price

You wrote the prices and now you say they shouldn't be changed, but you have allowed Nostoman to do so. THIS is the last time you insult my intelligence.
Title: Re: Cheater Bounty Bitgame
Post by: admin on October 23, 2021, 01:44:01 PM
Freemind, obviously the offer should not be changed, but it is not within my powers, i now asked nicely from nostoman not to change the price

You wrote the prices and now you say they shouldn't be changed, but you have allowed Nostoman to do so. THIS is the last time you insult my intelligence.
what the f* are you talking about
do you not understand what i am f*ing saying?
Nostoman went on and tried to sell the offer that is listed publically
when you sent me the screenshot it told him this is not acceptable and that the price should not be modified, and that his fees for moderation and such should be separated from the price of the package that should remain unchanged.

listen, i am not god, and i do not plan to be,
we deal with the shit users do on forum, it is not our business to deal with what they do off forum,
if i am selling a car for 10K and someone decided to offer it for 20k, it is not that i can do anything about it, the most i can do it block the sale once i know, but if i don't know i can't even do anything.
Title: Re: Cheater Bounty Bitgame
Post by: Freemind on October 23, 2021, 01:53:12 PM
Freemind, obviously the offer should not be changed, but it is not within my powers, i now asked nicely from nostoman not to change the price

You wrote the prices and now you say they shouldn't be changed, but you have allowed Nostoman to do so. THIS is the last time you insult my intelligence.
what the f* are you talking about
do you not understand what i am f*ing saying?
Nostoman went on and tried to sell the offer that is listed publically
when you sent me the screenshot it told him this is not acceptable and that the price should not be modified, and that his fees for moderation and such should be separated from the price of the package that should remain unchanged.

listen, i am not god, and i do not plan to be,
we deal with the shit users do on forum, it is not our business to deal with what they do off forum,
if i am selling a car for 10K and someone decided to offer it for 20k, it is not that i can do anything about it, the most i can do it block the sale once i know, but if i don't know i can't even do anything.

You must take care of your education when you speak, at no time have I read anyone saying fuck or things like that in this thread, you must be an example of good behavior as an administrator of this forum.

I know that Nostoman did it alone, but instead of punishing him you have said that you cannot control everything, and that is another insult because YOU are the administrator of this forum.

One last thing, you have told Nostoman not to change the prices, right?. I'm sure Nostoman will keep his word, as he did last time with the clones.
Title: Re: Cheater Bounty Bitgame
Post by: admin on October 23, 2021, 02:07:51 PM
Freemind, obviously the offer should not be changed, but it is not within my powers, i now asked nicely from nostoman not to change the price

You wrote the prices and now you say they shouldn't be changed, but you have allowed Nostoman to do so. THIS is the last time you insult my intelligence.
what the f* are you talking about
do you not understand what i am f*ing saying?
Nostoman went on and tried to sell the offer that is listed publically
when you sent me the screenshot it told him this is not acceptable and that the price should not be modified, and that his fees for moderation and such should be separated from the price of the package that should remain unchanged.

listen, i am not god, and i do not plan to be,
we deal with the shit users do on forum, it is not our business to deal with what they do off forum,
if i am selling a car for 10K and someone decided to offer it for 20k, it is not that i can do anything about it, the most i can do it block the sale once i know, but if i don't know i can't even do anything.

You must take care of your education when you speak, at no time have I read anyone saying fuck or things like that in this thread, you must be an example of good behavior as an administrator of this forum.

I know that Nostoman did it alone, but instead of punishing him you have said that you cannot control everything, and that is another insult because YOU are the administrator of this forum.

One last thing, you have told Nostoman not to change the prices, right?. I'm sure Nostoman will keep his word, as he did last time with the clones.

I am not a judge, my role in this forum is only administrative (fight spam, bot, cleaning database, executing orders from president, forum modifications) and strategic planning.
thus in this specific case i think judges are more qualified and surely more tempered to address this issue.
i trust their decision will be the right one.
i did my part presenting the facts as i see them, let the judges decide.
however i do request, if possible to have this case taken to the court section instead of duplicate accounts accusations section.
Title: Re: Cheater Bounty Bitgame
Post by: Mbah Jenggot on October 23, 2021, 02:15:28 PM
Keep calm guys,
Judges will have good decision for this case soon
I'll follow up it with dragon VP
We all here to improve this forum, together

Thanks for all,
I think this discussion  should be closed and waiting the judges decision.
me, VP, admin cannot intervience judges decision
Title: Re: Cheater Bounty Bitgame
Post by: dragononcrypto on October 23, 2021, 05:11:23 PM
the message you sent me freemind, clearly states that he says he is a mod not a representative.
obviously this is bad when the project in question is in talk with another mod.

To clarify;
The message I saw was clearly stating "I am a moderator here. I will moderate on ** section".
Being that he is not part of the mod team, I consider this dishonest impersonation.
It should be up to President who becomes mod of the section, not the seller.

many are wondering why i am defending nostoman.
7 reasons.

I see the good, the effort and what he has done for the forum.
Unfortunately, I also see the cost of this which is very high.
Title: Re: Cheater Bounty Bitgame
Post by: Master107 on October 23, 2021, 05:19:12 PM
Hello everybody,,, ;D
Keep calm and relax.

The forum is just 4th yr old and here we are discussing something serious matter which beyond my imagination particularly the business offer. Since we are just starting we should be firm to create good reputation (if possible no sense of so much greediness) Why? We start to build the future where we can see the forum in a much wow bounties, projects, partnerships, community and ads...

(Honestly, I were once/twice/trice dealing with some projects promoting Altcoinstalks. Not seeking for any appreciation I did it for the forum good.) Skip ;D

Well, multi account may forgivable as we know this issue is not a brand new even in another forum (let the judges judge). What then the unforgivable? If he/she join all of his accounts in one bounties (disrespectful and greediness is clear).

About the fixed price offer:
It should not be change as it is the forum price not the price of a single person otherwise he is working secretly for bravery. I hope the forum reputation is more important than for temporary price/pleasure.

Looking forward for 10 years to see Altcoinstalks in a much wow bounties, partnership, ads and community. I guess, there we can do more business and can double the price since the forum is rooted and popular. Traffic matters....

Not to mention the forum is a friendly environment and not a greedy place.

Peace be with you all ;D
Title: Re: Cheater Bounty Bitgame
Post by: Nostoman on October 23, 2021, 06:38:21 PM
Again,

I have already given various offers to many projects. Not just in this forum. However,,,, there was no official pricing. I have demanded more than the stipulated price. They are for the fund of the forum and for the development of the forum. Already two partnerships were canceled yesterday. Because of this topic. Because I don't like the last discussion, the discussions about the partnership. I have already made five offers considering that the forum will get much more than the price from a partnership. The two agreed to a project partnership (5k). This is not official. So it's a scandal. Am I stupid? Scam before the partnership??? I am not the most knowledge-able person. There are many wise people here. Show respect for each other.
Title: Re: Cheater Bounty Bitgame
Post by: Nostoman on October 23, 2021, 06:50:03 PM
Freemind, obviously the offer should not be changed, but it is not within my powers, i now asked nicely from nostoman not to change the price

You wrote the prices and now you say they shouldn't be changed, but you have allowed Nostoman to do so. THIS is the last time you insult my intelligence.
what the f* are you talking about
do you not understand what i am f*ing saying?
Nostoman went on and tried to sell the offer that is listed publically
when you sent me the screenshot it told him this is not acceptable and that the price should not be modified, and that his fees for moderation and such should be separated from the price of the package that should remain unchanged.

listen, i am not god, and i do not plan to be,
we deal with the shit users do on forum, it is not our business to deal with what they do off forum,
if i am selling a car for 10K and someone decided to offer it for 20k, it is not that i can do anything about it, the most i can do it block the sale once i know, but if i don't know i can't even do anything.

You must take care of your education when you speak, at no time have I read anyone saying fuck or things like that in this thread, you must be an example of good behavior as an administrator of this forum.

I know that Nostoman did it alone, but instead of punishing him you have said that you cannot control everything, and that is another insult because YOU are the administrator of this forum.

One last thing, you have told Nostoman not to change the prices, right?. I'm sure Nostoman will keep his word, as he did last time with the clones.

@Freemind,,,,,please calm down. The person who is currently managing the Nostoman account does not lie. There were some misunderstandings in Nostoman community,,,. so the decisions were reversed.
Title: Re: Cheater Bounty Bitgame
Post by: Freemind on October 23, 2021, 06:56:20 PM
@Freemind,,,,,please calm down. The person who is currently managing the Nostoman account does not lie. There were some misunderstandings in Nostoman community,,,. so the decisions were reversed.

I can only say LOL.
Title: Re: Cheater Bounty Bitgame
Post by: Nostoman on October 23, 2021, 06:57:05 PM
judges, President, VP, Admin will make good decision. Because we have Forum court. If I am stupid, I want get ban. Please, don't give periroty your personal interest.
Title: Re: Cheater Bounty Bitgame
Post by: Jokers on October 23, 2021, 07:27:51 PM
The way how often and easily people are talking about punishment and bans frustrates a bit. Altcoinstalks is not a huge forum where you just have no time for personal decisions, so we just are not in need of having an obligatory punishment idea. If some things are not going right we just need to make them go right. If we can fix a situation without any punishment it would be the best decision (yes, sometimes there is no other way, like when we talk about spamers of different sorts). What do we need for real, to fix problems or to make a simulacrum of solving problems? Punishment as main idea is a form of escapuism. Main idea is to maintain forum right, other decisions should be based on that. Right? ???
Title: Re: Cheater Bounty Bitgame
Post by: dragononcrypto on October 23, 2021, 11:11:36 PM
The person who is currently managing the Nostoman account does not lie.

 :o :o :o
Title: Re: Cheater Bounty Bitgame
Post by: damsix on October 24, 2021, 01:26:23 AM
The person who is currently managing the Nostoman account does not lie. There were some misunderstandings in Nostoman community

I've read this thread from the beginning and am quite confused as to how to find the Best Solution.

After I last read the reply to the thread in Quotes, it looks like this is a New Case again, will this case continue to roll like a snowball rolling from the top of Mount Everest to the Mariana Trench  ??
Title: Re: Cheater Bounty Bitgame
Post by: hair on November 08, 2021, 11:21:15 PM
#proof 1
https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=238265.msg1242055#msg1242055 
 
1. Nostoman 
Profile Link : https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;area=summary;u=49842
2. Paglamon
Profile Link : https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;area=summary;u=46373
3. Dociko
Profile Link : https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;area=summary;u=74595
4. Tnoy30 
Profile Link : https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;area=summary;u=52969
5. Tanimariya 
Profile Link : https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;area=summary;u=52467
6. Galaxy 
Profile Link : https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;area=summary;u=74552
7. Lenipiw
Profile Link : https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;area=summary;u=74365
8. MRM 
Profile Link : https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;area=summary;u=74409
9. Riya143
Profile Link : https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;area=summary;u=52652
 
#proof 2
https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=238265.msg1242405#msg1242405
 
1. ranaprime   
Profile Link : https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;area=summary;u=47774
2. Asad72
Profile Link : https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;area=summary;u=80433
3. Logitech50
Profile Link : https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;area=summary;u=76418
4. Dark Knight 
Profile Link : https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;area=summary;u=78475
5. C 98 
Profile Link : https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;area=summary;u=79071
6. Bad leyar 
Profile Link : https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;area=summary;u=77745
7. Fighter 
Profile Link : https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;area=summary;u=79035
8. bmw1 
Profile Link : https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;area=summary;u=77851
9. ExtraPoint
Profile Link : https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;area=summary;u=78930

After discussing with the judges and do investigation the account that has been mentioned has been proven to have committed fraud by participating in a bounty with multiple accounts.   the evidence is clear and valid. All accounts that are connected to each other.
I suggest admin for them to get a big cheater label to make it easier for BM to know it 
+ add to label duplicate  and  suggest MULTY Account or CHEATER badge  ( BIG LABEL )
+ get negative karma. ( make -100 ) 
+ Remove their KYC.   
+ We also consider that they can't allow use their signature (blocked their signature column)
Title: Re: Cheater Bounty Bitgame
Post by: hair on November 08, 2021, 11:26:47 PM
Case closed. I locked this thread. I suggest of abang jago get rewards +50 karma for his/her actions to find this multi account.
Thanks