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COPA vs Wright: What's at Stake as the Trial to Determine Satoshi's Identity Wraps Up
This week attorneys representing bitcoin developers and the Crypto Open Patent Alliance (COPA), an organization that says it is fighting for "freedom from threats" on crypto technology, will tell a judge that Craig S. Wright is not, in fact, Bitcoin creator Satoshi Nakamoto. Wright, who declared he was Nakamoto in 2016, will close his case arguing he did create what is now the world's largest and most valuable cryptocurrency. Read more here (https://www.coindesk.com/policy/2024/03/12/copa-v-wright-whats-at-stake-as-the-trial-to-determine-satoshis-identity-wraps-up/).
After about a month, the trial will be wrapped up soon. I don't know about you, but i think it's obvious COPA will win where i hope it's true it'll legally prevent wright from falsely claim himself as Satoshi. Your opinion is greatly appreciated.
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Is Craig wright Satoshi?
If he is Satoshi, he is very foolish for not been able to prove it. All we needed was not court case but prooves. He was unable to prove anything but giving excuses.
With the email that Sirius released recently, we should know that Wright is not Satoshi.
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Is Craig wright Satoshi?
If he is Satoshi, he is very foolish for not been able to prove it. All we needed was not court case but prooves. He was unable to prove anything but giving excuses.
On top of that, he got caught performing forgery where he also attempt to shift the blame to someone else. And it seems COPA also plan continue to pursuing wright due to forgery attempt[1].
With the email that Sirius released recently, we should know that Wright is not Satoshi.
His attitude and lack of technical knowledge alone should be enough to make average people convinced that he's not Satoshi.
[1] https://www.coindesk.com/policy/2024/03/12/craig-wright-committed-perjury-in-uk-trial-over-satoshi-claims-copa-says/ (https://www.coindesk.com/policy/2024/03/12/craig-wright-committed-perjury-in-uk-trial-over-satoshi-claims-copa-says/)
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After about a month, the trial will be wrapped up soon. I don't know about you, but i think it's obvious COPA will win where i hope it's true it'll legally prevent wright from falsely claim himself as Satoshi. Your opinion is greatly appreciated.
I am also quite positive that eventually the court will be siding with COPA on this issue so that Craig Wright can finally go home and just cry a river as he would officially be called as NOT Satoshi. Actually, there is nothing new with all the claims of Mr. Wright and his defense even utilized his supposed autism as an advantage which is to me is quite a very low form of strategy. The whole crypto industry is spewing Craig Wright all because we know that he can never be the real Satoshi Nakamoto since he could present any verifiable fact to support his claim. In my view, this man is just seeking fame and riding on the popularity of Satoshi Nakamoto as he is sure that even if he will not be recognized to be the real one he can still make good money out of his adventure.
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Bitcoiners who understand the network already know that Wright isn't Satoshi and it is sad that this case has to even be defended in court, i don't know why Wright continues to pursue this case, harassing BTC developers and crypto firms along the way. As a true bitcoiner i can only hope to see the end of this, which would surely be a total loss for Faketoshi. Wright does not have close to the technical knowledge needed to create something like BTC, and that is all the proof that i need.
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I am also quite positive that eventually the court will be siding with COPA on this issue so that Craig Wright can finally go home and just cry a river as he would officially be called as NOT Satoshi.
At this point, i don't he'll simply going home and cry. He already spend some time/money and the news state wright can make an appeal.
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Faketoshi lost his case obviously, but I am sure he is going to continue with his circus show, maybe in other countries.
At this point only his cult supporters trust him with anything, but I wouldn't be surprised to see him back working with vegetables again :)
Time to forget about this clown:
UK judge said Dr. Wright is not the author of the Bitcoin White Paper and was not the person behind the pseudonym Satoshi Nakamoto.
https://decrypt.co/221724/craig-wright-did-not-invent-bitcoin-not-satoshi-nakamoto
Case closed.
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Faketoshi lost his case obviously, but I am sure he is going to continue with his circus show, maybe in other countries.
At this point only his cult supporters trust him with anything, but I wouldn't be surprised to see him back working with vegetables again :)
Time to forget about this clown:
UK judge said Dr. Wright is not the author of the Bitcoin White Paper and was not the person behind the pseudonym Satoshi Nakamoto.
https://decrypt.co/221724/craig-wright-did-not-invent-bitcoin-not-satoshi-nakamoto
Case closed.
Not closed yet, when faketoshi could appeal and COPA could ask for injustice relief. And i agree we should forget him, at least until he wrongfully attempt to sue someone else again.
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Not closed yet, when faketoshi could appeal and COPA could ask for injustice relief. And i agree we should forget him, at least until he wrongfully attempt to sue someone else again.
Appealing with no concrete evidence. Not just with no concrete evidence but without any evidence. That man is a loser. If he his wise enough, he should know he will fail as he continues to fail. If he appeal for anything about this in court, he will fail again. COPA need to ask for injustice relief. A man that did not create bitcoin that wanted to take the glory and threatening bitcoin developers. But he made name already from it because most people may not know this man if not because of him trying to claim what he is not the owner. Clearly he is a liar.
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COPA vs Wright: What's at Stake as the Trial to Determine Satoshi's Identity Wraps Up
This week attorneys representing bitcoin developers and the Crypto Open Patent Alliance (COPA), an organization that says it is fighting for "freedom from threats" on crypto technology, will tell a judge that Craig S. Wright is not, in fact, Bitcoin creator Satoshi Nakamoto. Wright, who declared he was Nakamoto in 2016, will close his case arguing he did create what is now the world's largest and most valuable cryptocurrency. Read more here (https://www.coindesk.com/policy/2024/03/12/copa-v-wright-whats-at-stake-as-the-trial-to-determine-satoshis-identity-wraps-up/).
After about a month, the trial will be wrapped up soon. I don't know about you, but i think it's obvious COPA will win where i hope it's true it'll legally prevent wright from falsely claim himself as Satoshi. Your opinion is greatly appreciated.
COPA will definitely win this case because there have not been any tangible evidence to serve as reason why Wright should win the case, a single man cannot win the entire community of bitcoin, i also thought about this that was it because Satoshi have remained always been anonymous that give the effrontery of Craig claiming to be the creator of bitcoin, unlike the other crypto projects in which we know their creators.
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He has gained undeserved fame, and I believe that this is the main purpose of his claim to be Satoshi, otherwise most of us would not know who Craig S. Wright is. Shouldn't a charge of impersonation be issued as soon as it is proven that he is not Satoshi? This charge is punishable by imprisonment for about 5 years.
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Not closed yet, when faketoshi could appeal and COPA could ask for injustice relief. And i agree we should forget him, at least until he wrongfully attempt to sue someone else again.
Yeah he might appeal, with how Faketoshi has been behaving all these years, it has now become difficult for us to believe that he would simply accept defeat and go home. He loves the drama, because at this point i believe that Faketoshi knows within himself that he would never win this fake claim, and maybe all these drama and lawsuits just helps him sleep better at night.
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Not closed yet, when faketoshi could appeal and COPA could ask for injustice relief. And i agree we should forget him, at least until he wrongfully attempt to sue someone else again.
Appealing with no concrete evidence. Not just with no concrete evidence but without any evidence. That man is a loser. If he his wise enough, he should know he will fail as he continues to fail. If he appeal for anything about this in court, he will fail again. COPA need to ask for injustice relief. A man that did not create bitcoin that wanted to take the glory and threatening bitcoin developers. But he made name already from it because most people may not know this man if not because of him trying to claim what he is not the owner. Clearly he is a liar.
It's obvious he's not wise when he pick fight with giant like COPA and talks so much when silence is better option. IMO he's going to "double down" in fight against COPA, although he don't realize it's not worth it.
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Not closed yet, when faketoshi could appeal and COPA could ask for injustice relief. And i agree we should forget him, at least until he wrongfully attempt to sue someone else again.
Appeal for what?
He doesn't have any proof for his stupid claims, so he can do whatever he wants.
COPA presented actual evidence in court and that is why they won the case, unlike Faketoshi who only had hear-say to present.
Even people who followed him for years and abandoning him now.
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2 small updates.
- Faketoshi need to pay 6 million British pound to cover COPA's court cost.
- UK court freeze faketoshi asset to make sure he'll make the payment.
Let's hope it'll make faketoshi reconsider before making false claim or falsely suing someone again.
Source,
https://bitcoindefense.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/COPA-v-Wright-WFO-Approved-Judgment-28.03.2024.pdf (https://bitcoindefense.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/COPA-v-Wright-WFO-Approved-Judgment-28.03.2024.pdf) page 5
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/craig-wright-assets-frozen-uk-113522311.html (https://finance.yahoo.com/news/craig-wright-assets-frozen-uk-113522311.html)
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We all know that a court decision is one thing, but that it is something else entirely to implement that decision. Faketoshi must have tried to "hide" most of what he owns (which can be read in the article), and I sincerely doubt that COPA will be able to get the money that was awarded to them.
However, we finally experienced that one judge understood what was going on here and decided to end the more than obvious maltreatment of the court with something that could realistically have been established from the evidence a few years ago.
I'm just interested in what will happen in the event that there is simply no money, or that it is not available in the amount that the judge ruled? In some countries, the practice is that if you don't have the money to pay the fine, you go to prison - and £6m is a lot of days in jail ::)
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We collectively cared about this long enough if you ask me. I mean we shouldn't have spent even a day on this and we have spent weeks, even months following this situation. Thankfully its over and what we know came out to be the truth, what a shocker! I mean we already knew that he wasn't satoshi, we said that for years now and he just wanted to still keep going like he was satoshi anyway. The weird part is, dude was ridiculed and mocked everywhere he goes, nobody ever took him seriously, and he still does it. If I was humiliated like this ever, I would not only stop, but also put myself in my home and never contact anyone.
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- Faketoshi need to pay 6 million British pound to cover COPA's court cost.
- UK court freeze faketoshi asset to make sure he'll make the payment.
No more cheap tricks from him?!
Freezing his assets was a smart decision from court, but that should not be a problem for him if he created Bitcoin like he lied... Bitcoin can't be frozen 8)
I think it would be more effective if they held his passports, like they are doing with CZ in US.
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The weird part is, dude was ridiculed and mocked everywhere he goes, nobody ever took him seriously, and he still does it. If I was humiliated like this ever, I would not only stop, but also put myself in my home and never contact anyone.
Considering BSV price and few backing he had, it means there were few people who took him seriously.
- Faketoshi need to pay 6 million British pound to cover COPA's court cost.
- UK court freeze faketoshi asset to make sure he'll make the payment.
No more cheap tricks from him?!
Freezing his assets was a smart decision from court, but that should not be a problem for him if he created Bitcoin like he lied... Bitcoin can't be frozen 8)
I think it would be more effective if they held his passports, like they are doing with CZ in US.
Yeah, it's definitely smart decision considering faketoshi lied many times in the trial. And as reminder, BSV can be confiscated stolen "legally"[1].
[1] https://blog.bitmex.com/bitcoin-sv-hardfork-significant-security-risks/ (https://blog.bitmex.com/bitcoin-sv-hardfork-significant-security-risks/)
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2 small updates.
- Faketoshi need to pay 6 million British pound to cover COPA's court cost.
- UK court freeze faketoshi asset to make sure he'll make the payment.
These are really good updates and it should slow Wright down, if he starts 'paying' for his lies and deceit, he would not be able to sustain it for much longer. Wright is a conman, so i am sure he will still seek ways to avoid paying this money as ordered by the court. His defeat is surely a win for BTC and i hope we see the end of Wright very soon.
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We collectively cared about this long enough if you ask me. I mean we shouldn't have spent even a day on this and we have spent weeks, even months following this situation. Thankfully its over and what we know came out to be the truth, what a shocker!
You think COPA people would have achieved anything if they had ignored CW Faketoshi? The whole thing has actually been going on since 2016 as far as I know, and if you ignore the lie it will eventually become the truth, especially if the one who wants to make the truth out of a lie has a lot of money at his disposal.
I mean we already knew that he wasn't satoshi, we said that for years now and he just wanted to still keep going like he was satoshi anyway. The weird part is, dude was ridiculed and mocked everywhere he goes, nobody ever took him seriously, and he still does it. If I was humiliated like this ever, I would not only stop, but also put myself in my home and never contact anyone.
How did no one take it seriously when a court in the UK ruled that the Bitcoin whitepaper must be removed from bitcoin.org because no one disputed the claim that it was written by CW Faketoshi? In addition, CW Faketoshi was declared Satoshi Nakamoto by some institute (or something) in Colombia.
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/04/03/VJzHN.jpeg)
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2 small updates.
- Faketoshi need to pay 6 million British pound to cover COPA's court cost.
- UK court freeze faketoshi asset to make sure he'll make the payment.
These are really good updates and it should slow Wright down, if he starts 'paying' for his lies and deceit, he would not be able to sustain it for much longer. Wright is a conman, so i am sure he will still seek ways to avoid paying this money as ordered by the court. His defeat is surely a win for BTC and i hope we see the end of Wright very soon.
He'll have to work very hard then in order to convince judge to unfreeze his asset.
I mean we already knew that he wasn't satoshi, we said that for years now and he just wanted to still keep going like he was satoshi anyway. The weird part is, dude was ridiculed and mocked everywhere he goes, nobody ever took him seriously, and he still does it. If I was humiliated like this ever, I would not only stop, but also put myself in my home and never contact anyone.
How did no one take it seriously when a court in the UK ruled that the Bitcoin whitepaper must be removed from bitcoin.org because no one disputed the claim that it was written by CW Faketoshi? In addition, CW Faketoshi was declared Satoshi Nakamoto by some institute (or something) in Colombia.
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/04/03/VJzHN.jpeg)
Actually it was declared by Council of Bogota[1], which is government institute. It also shows that council is either corrupt or stupid.
[1] https://www.cryptoglobe.com/latest/2019/06/bogota-welcomes-satoshi-nakamoto-in-the-guise-of-craig-wright/ (https://www.cryptoglobe.com/latest/2019/06/bogota-welcomes-satoshi-nakamoto-in-the-guise-of-craig-wright/)
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Actually it was declared by Council of Bogota[1], which is government institute. It also shows that council is either corrupt or stupid.
[1] https://www.cryptoglobe.com/latest/2019/06/bogota-welcomes-satoshi-nakamoto-in-the-guise-of-craig-wright/ (https://www.cryptoglobe.com/latest/2019/06/bogota-welcomes-satoshi-nakamoto-in-the-guise-of-craig-wright/)
Maybe it's both ::)
However, if we look at the fact that CW Faketoshi at one point managed to convince Gavin Andersen that he is the real Satoshi, and that he was the closest associate of the real Satoshi to whom he left Bitcoin, then we should not be surprised that these "geniuses" decided to believe in a bunch of lies.
I wonder how they feel now after the UK court ruling...