[ANN] Mixero.io | Best Bitcoin Mixer | Extra Layer of Privacy by XMR Bridge

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It's quite a unique method to mix Bitcoin, and I'm sure it will add an extra layer of privacy but I would like to know what will happen if a centralized exchange finds out that a user is doing conversion for a mixer service?

I mean won't it put any risk to the account that's registered on a centralized exchange which's going to be performing the mixing of Monero to Bitcoin. However, if the exchange can't find out that then it would be a great mixing.

You seem to have not understood the best of what is happening here.
You as a user send BTC to Mixer and they send clean coins to your BTC address. So, you have nothing with any exchange.
In the background, Mixer will send your Bitcoin (as Mixero) to a decentralised exchange swap it for XMR, then send those XMR to the centralised exchange and swap XMR to BTC. That BTC can be called "clean" because it comes from a centralized exchange.

CEX (the most risky point of the whole process) cannot track XMR, so there is no reason to block funds. It seems like a good solution, now the only question is how much all the transactions will cost.

[SamReomo]

You seem to have not understood the best of what is happening here.
You as a user send BTC to Mixer and they send clean coins to your BTC address. So, you have nothing with anYou seem to have not understood the best of what is happening here.
You as a user send BTC to Mixer and they send clean coins to your BTC address. So, you have nothing with any exchange.
In the background, Mixer will send your Bitcoin (as Mixero) to a decentralised exchange swap it for XMR, then send those XMR to the centralised exchange and swap XMR to BTC. That BTC can be called "clean" because it comes from a centralized exchange.

CEX (the most risky point of the whole process) cannot track XMR, so there is no reason to block funds. It seems like a good solution, now the only question is how much all the transactions will cost.y exchange.
In the background, Mixer will send your Bitcoin (as Mixero) to a decentralised exchange swap it for XMR, then send those XMR to the centralised exchange and swap XMR to BTC. That BTC can be called "clean" because it comes from a centralized exchange.

CEX (the most risky point of the whole process) cannot track XMR, so there is no reason to block funds. It seems like a good solution, now the only question is how much all the transactions will cost.

Man, I understood the whole thing what I was trying to say that the account that they use on centralized exchange for converting of XMR to BTC might get caught by the exchange as that happened with someone in past who swapped BTC to XMR via a decentralized exchange and then converted that XMR to BTC again but this time via a centralized exchange.

By keeping that I mind I asked that what if the centralized exchange somehow finds that account which is going to be used to convert XMR back to BTC and then withdraw it to Mixero's wallet? I mean the probability of centralized exchange to find it is very high because they will suspect that only XMR comes in and Bitcoin goes out then something if fishy. I think you also know that some exchanges might consider XRP to BTC transactions risky because they believe that if only XMR comes in and BTC goes out then something can be wrong.

[Mixero.io]

You seem to have not understood the best of what is happening here.
You as a user send BTC to Mixer and they send clean coins to your BTC address. So, you have nothing with anYou seem to have not understood the best of what is happening here.
You as a user send BTC to Mixer and they send clean coins to your BTC address. So, you have nothing with any exchange.
In the background, Mixer will send your Bitcoin (as Mixero) to a decentralised exchange swap it for XMR, then send those XMR to the centralised exchange and swap XMR to BTC. That BTC can be called "clean" because it comes from a centralized exchange.

CEX (the most risky point of the whole process) cannot track XMR, so there is no reason to block funds. It seems like a good solution, now the only question is how much all the transactions will cost.y exchange.
In the background, Mixer will send your Bitcoin (as Mixero) to a decentralised exchange swap it for XMR, then send those XMR to the centralised exchange and swap XMR to BTC. That BTC can be called "clean" because it comes from a centralized exchange.

CEX (the most risky point of the whole process) cannot track XMR, so there is no reason to block funds. It seems like a good solution, now the only question is how much all the transactions will cost.

Man, I understood the whole thing what I was trying to say that the account that they use on centralized exchange for converting of XMR to BTC might get caught by the exchange as that happened with someone in past who swapped BTC to XMR via a decentralized exchange and then converted that XMR to BTC again but this time via a centralized exchange.

By keeping that I mind I asked that what if the centralized exchange somehow finds that account which is going to be used to convert XMR back to BTC and then withdraw it to Mixero's wallet? I mean the probability of centralized exchange to find it is very high because they will suspect that only XMR comes in and Bitcoin goes out then something if fishy. I think you also know that some exchanges might consider XRP to BTC transactions risky because they believe that if only XMR comes in and BTC goes out then something can be wrong.

Centralized exchanges will never be able to determine that these funds originate from our service, as previously explained, we utilize a completely empty intermediate wallet with no transaction history. Moreover, due to Monero's (XMR) design, it is impossible for the exchange to identify the existence of the source address. This means they do not know where the funds are coming from. Therefore, they cannot block the funds since they do not have access to the history and cannot trace the funds' history.

It is crucial to acknowledge that even though some centralized exchanges might use heuristic patterns to identify and block transactions they deem suspicious, we proactively ensure that this does not happen. We carefully select exchanges that do not employ such filtering based on specific patterns of incoming and outgoing transactions (for example, only XMR coming in and BTC going out). By doing so, we minimize the risk of our transactions being flagged as suspicious, thus ensuring a smoother and safer conversion process for our users from XMR to BTC.

[SamReomo]

Centralized exchanges will never be able to determine that these funds originate from our service, as previously explained, we utilize a completely empty intermediate wallet with no transaction history. Moreover, due to Monero's (XMR) design, it is impossible for the exchange to identify the existence of the source address. This means they do not know where the funds are coming from. Therefore, they cannot block the funds since they do not have access to the history and cannot trace the funds' history.

It is crucial to acknowledge that even though some centralized exchanges might use heuristic patterns to identify and block transactions they deem suspicious, we proactively ensure that this does not happen. We carefully select exchanges that do not employ such filtering based on specific patterns of incoming and outgoing transactions (for example, only XMR coming in and BTC going out). By doing so, we minimize the risk of our transactions being flagged as suspicious, thus ensuring a smoother and safer conversion process for our users from XMR to BTC.

Thanks for the detailed answer, I wish you guys best of luck in choosing those exchanges which might not have such filters, I guess all major centralized exchanges have some kind of filters where they can easily find such transactions suspicious but surely there might be many centralized exchanges that don't really care much about XMR coming in and BTC going out because they will be earning their revenue by the fees and they don't care much about such transactions or they might intentionally allow such transactions.

I hope if such mechanism is followed properly then Mixero's mixing process will assure the users to have completely clean coins and with 0% chance of tracing. I think another option Mixero has to use multiple centralized exchanges and multiple accounts on those exchanges to make the task more smooth. That's going to be a much better approach because a single account can still be tagged if the transactions take place multiple times thus multiple accounts will most probably solve the issue.

[dkbit98]

After exchanging your BTC for XMR, we direct the funds through an intermediary wallet. This strategy ensures that the exchanges involved in the BTC to XMR and XMR back to BTC transactions remain unaware of this intermediary wallet, making it difficult for them to link any transaction details associated with this intermediary. Furthermore, due to Monero's built-in privacy features, exchanges are inherently unable to determine the source address of a Monero transaction. Our approach of using an intermediary wallet bolsters this privacy, offering an extra layer of security and anonymity in the transaction process.

Can you tell us what sources are you using to get monero coins that you are using for Advanced mixing service?
Binance and few other bigger centralized exchanges have delisted monero and it is getting harder to get coins when you need them fast.
I wonder what happens if you don't have any XMR and someone wants to use advanced mixing option.

[Mixero.io]

After exchanging your BTC for XMR, we direct the funds through an intermediary wallet. This strategy ensures that the exchanges involved in the BTC to XMR and XMR back to BTC transactions remain unaware of this intermediary wallet, making it difficult for them to link any transaction details associated with this intermediary. Furthermore, due to Monero's built-in privacy features, exchanges are inherently unable to determine the source address of a Monero transaction. Our approach of using an intermediary wallet bolsters this privacy, offering an extra layer of security and anonymity in the transaction process.

Can you tell us what sources are you using to get monero coins that you are using for Advanced mixing service?
Binance and few other bigger centralized exchanges have delisted monero and it is getting harder to get coins when you need them fast.
I wonder what happens if you don't have any XMR and someone wants to use advanced mixing option.

Hello, we can't tell you exactly what service we're using as we feel it may affect the anonymity of our customers but all we can tell you is that we're using instant exchanges.

[SamReomo]

Can you tell us what sources are you using to get monero coins that you are using for Advanced mixing service?
Binance and few other bigger centralized exchanges have delisted monero and it is getting harder to get coins when you need them fast.
I wonder what happens if you don't have any XMR and someone wants to use advanced mixing option.

Hello, we can't tell you exactly what service we're using as we feel it may affect the anonymity of our customers but all we can tell you is that we're using instant exchanges.

@dkbit98 If I'm not wrong then Monero won't be delisted from all exchanges since it's a good and valuable coin which provides 100% as compare to other coins. I know some exchanges are taking action against it because of the stress that centralized institutions give them.

@Mixero I think we understand that privacy is very important and thus it's not needed to be announced that which sources are being used for the purpose. However, I must say that @dkbit98's question was a quite useful one. And, I guess you already somehow answered us that you're using instant exchanges. I'm pretty sure that they will never delist Monero and we may see it listed again on centralized exchanges maybe in future.
 

[dkbit98]

Hello, we can't tell you exactly what service we're using as we feel it may affect the anonymity of our customers but all we can tell you is that we're using instant exchanges.

OK, good to know.
So that basically means that you down own any larger amount of monero coins, and you need to buy them when you have demand  for mixing.
There are not many instant exchanges and I have a good idea what exactly you are using

[Mixero.io]

Hello, we can't tell you exactly what service we're using as we feel it may affect the anonymity of our customers but all we can tell you is that we're using instant exchanges.

OK, good to know.
So that basically means that you down own any larger amount of monero coins, and you need to buy them when you have demand  for mixing.
There are not many instant exchanges and I have a good idea what exactly you are using

We have established a Monero reserve to facilitate faster transactions and lower costs on our end. This reserve is currently effective for small amounts, as it is still in the "test" phase. Our goal is to create a substantial reserve to expedite exchanges. With such a reserve, we would only need to convert Monero into Bitcoin for the user, significantly enhancing anonymity and processing speed.

Concerning the instant exchanges we don't rely on a single exchange platform; instead, we evaluate several exchanges to identify the one offering the most favorable rates and lowest fees.

[Yamane_Keto]

We have established a Monero reserve to facilitate faster transactions and lower costs on our end. This reserve is currently effective for small amounts, as it is still in the "test" phase. Our goal is to create a substantial reserve to expedite exchanges. With such a reserve, we would only need to convert Monero into Bitcoin for the user, significantly enhancing anonymity and processing speed.

This could be bad as governments could look for services that supply Monero and then they could make large, frequent transactions and monitor who is requesting Monero to determine more information about you.
Mixers are based on trust, so Mixero.io users must trust that you are doing any thing correctly and that you are deleting logs.

[Cantsay]

@mixero.io & @AB de Royse777, I stumbled across a site today - I’ve gone through the app to see if it’s mixero’s mirror link but I couldn’t find any information about it.

The site: https(//mixera(.)io/

One thing I noticed was that they kept using the same deposit address no matter how many times you restarted the procedure from the beginning; we also saw this behaviour on multiple phishing links we reported for Unijoin back then in Bitcointalk.org.

I simply wanted to let you know in case it does not belong to you, so that proper action may be taken to avoid anyone from losing money to it.

[Yamane_Keto]

One thing I noticed was that they kept using the same deposit address no matter how many times you restarted the procedure from the beginning; we also saw this behaviour on multiple phishing links we reported for Unijoin back then in Bitcointalk.org.

Anyone can create phishing links and try to make its name look like the service, design something similar to the service and promote it so that it appears first in the search engine. you must click on the link through the signatures under ALTT users or at least bookmark the ANN page.

[Freemind]

@mixero.io & @AB de Royse777, I stumbled across a site today - I’ve gone through the app to see if it’s mixero’s mirror link but I couldn’t find any information about it.

The site: https(//mixera(.)io/

One thing I noticed was that they kept using the same deposit address no matter how many times you restarted the procedure from the beginning; we also saw this behaviour on multiple phishing links we reported for Unijoin back then in Bitcointalk.org.

I simply wanted to let you know in case it does not belong to you, so that proper action may be taken to avoid anyone from losing money to it.

Thank you for the information. It would be interesting and positive for the community if you opened a thread about this problem in the subforum Reputation, scams and phishing. That way more users could be alert about these types of threats.

What you have found will help prevent some users from losing their funds and you will help the Mixero team.

+1

[Cantsay]

It would be interesting and positive for the community if you opened a thread about this problem in the subforum Reputation, scams and phishing. That way more users could be alert about these types of threats.

I actually can’t do that right now since I haven’t gotten any confirmation from mixero.io if the site belongs to them or not.

If we should get a negative response and the go ahead, then we can report the site for it to be taken down by the registrar for being a phishing site, but for now we wait for mixero’s response.

[Mixero.io]

@mixero.io & @AB de Royse777, I stumbled across a site today - I’ve gone through the app to see if it’s mixero’s mirror link but I couldn’t find any information about it.

The site: https(//mixera(.)io/

One thing I noticed was that they kept using the same deposit address no matter how many times you restarted the procedure from the beginning; we also saw this behaviour on multiple phishing links we reported for Unijoin back then in Bitcointalk.org.

I simply wanted to let you know in case it does not belong to you, so that proper action may be taken to avoid anyone from losing money to it.

Hello this site is indeed a phishing/scam (mixera.io) it seems that several customers have already fallen into the trap, we will report this site. Stay away from this service and double check the domain name you are visiting.