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The role of Luck vs. Skill in casino games
« on: April 05, 2024, 10:15:36 PM »
Hi everyone,
Ever wonder how much of your success at the casino is due to luck, and how much you can actually attribute to skill?

I want to dissect and debate the elements of luck and skill across various games. How does one’s skill level alter the odds in games traditionally seen as purely chance-based?

Can a well thought out strategy truly make a difference, or are we all at the mercy of the gambling gods?

Are there any games you’ve mastered to the point where you feel luck plays a secondary role?

Or perhaps you have insights into how casinos design games to balance these elements and attract different types of players

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The role of Luck vs. Skill in casino games
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Re: The role of Luck vs. Skill in casino games
« Reply #1 on: April 05, 2024, 10:51:00 PM »
How does one’s skill level alter the odds in games traditionally seen as purely chance-based?
Skills in games that require luck or chance are completely useless because no matter how skillful you are, you do not win by your own personal efforts or knowledge but by chance and luck. This is why they are called luck based games. Skills are only relevant in skill based games where your chances of winning increases with how better your skill becomes. As a gambler, know the one you are playing, so that you do make practice skills for a game based on luck.
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Re: The role of Luck vs. Skill in casino games
« Reply #2 on: April 05, 2024, 11:28:39 PM »
For me luck is 90% skill 10% in gambling nothing is purely due to skill.

The gambling game that is mastered now is of course Sportsbook and that is what we understand now that we like the sport of football matches so we have a little skill in analyzing the team although not an expert but I believe in this victory is not about skill but luck again.

Many people say that skills in gambling can be done if he is an expert, yes it comes back to him because we know gambling is almost entirely luck.

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Re: The role of Luck vs. Skill in casino games
« Reply #3 on: April 06, 2024, 01:30:45 AM »
In casino games there is nothing like skill, because it depends on luck full time, talking about skill in game, you could have mission poker and card games which also do not always work out with skills. But in casino, the casino machines are in dull time control of the wins, so you don't require any skill to play casino games.

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Re: The role of Luck vs. Skill in casino games
« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2024, 03:05:37 AM »
I think it is interesting talking about how luck and skill work together in casino games. Luck is important like slots and roulette but in some games like you can say poker and blackjack needs skill to help players to win. If players practice more and understand games well they can get better. But It is also good to know that luck is part of gambling and there is no specific way to win every time.Casinos try to make games that mix of luck and skill which gain different kind of players who come and play games. Some games are about luck while others need more skills. In end I will say that mix of luck and skill makes casino games fun or you can say it makes casinos probably fair. Luck can bring surprises but skill can make players feel in control. This balance is what makes players keep coming back for more excitement.

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Re: The role of Luck vs. Skill in casino games
« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2024, 02:43:27 PM »


Are there any games you’ve mastered to the point where you feel luck plays a secondary role?

Or perhaps you have insights into how casinos design games to balance these elements and attract different types of players

Not really that I mastered the game but rather I became knowledgeable and that was horse racing back then besides the racing programs I have notebooks and I categorize each horse and disc jockey.
I have fair results but I cannot accumulate enough winnings to win the Winner Take All another one is boxing, but I'm not into online betting I prefer what you call peer-to-peer its fast and easy money because here in our neighborhood there are people who likes peer to peer betting.
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Re: The role of Luck vs. Skill in casino games
« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2024, 02:51:25 PM »
If you play roulette - what are the skills here? Yes, maybe statistics somehow influence the result, but skills? Just luck. If we are talking about poker - here it is very important to be able to bluff, you need excellent knowledge of cards and the ability to calculate mathematical probabilities.

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Re: The role of Luck vs. Skill in casino games
« Reply #7 on: April 06, 2024, 02:59:55 PM »
Are there any games you’ve mastered to the point where you feel luck plays a secondary role?
There is nothing like skills when it comes to casino game or betting in general, gambling is all about luck.
No gambler is an expert in gambling, gambling is 99% luck and 1% skills,if there is anything called skill in gambling. That's my opinion.

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Re: The role of Luck vs. Skill in casino games
« Reply #8 on: April 06, 2024, 03:25:34 PM »
In my opinion, skill without luck will not enable us to win at gambling. Luck without skill will actually make us win.

For example, in sports betting, we will definitely analyze who will win, we can look at statistics, team strength, player quality and so on. However, if we have done that but luck is not on our side, then that will make us lose. So luck plays a big role in gambling.

in a slot game for example, what skills do we need? there aren't any, right?

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Re: The role of Luck vs. Skill in casino games
« Reply #9 on: April 06, 2024, 03:48:15 PM »
I think the OP either doesn't know casino games very well or is one of those who believes that by doing certain things before betting, such as cross himself and the like, he's going to get 'lucky'. But as several colleagues have said there is no skill that influences the results of casino games, just as there is no skill that helps you to guess the lottery numbers. There are people who believe that by choosing certain numbers, they will be 'lucky' and will hit the jackpot, but the results are purely random and any supposed relationship between them and the way of choosing the numbers, whether lottery or roulette, is pure chance.

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Re: The role of Luck vs. Skill in casino games
« Reply #10 on: April 06, 2024, 03:58:52 PM »
Hi everyone,
Ever wonder how much of your success at the casino is due to luck, and how much you can actually attribute to skill?

Casino games are different:
- slots, roulette, dice it's all about luck
- blackjack, poker, baccarat it's about sixty-forty let's say
You can be the best poker or blackjack player if you get the bad card you're going to lose to a newbie, the same time if you're really lucky you're going to beat everyone at the table with minimal knowledge, but still on the long run an experienced player will beat your average dealer.

I think the OP either doesn't know casino games very well or is one of those who believes that by doing certain things before betting, such as cross himself and the like, he's going to get 'lucky'. But as several colleagues have said there is no skill that influences the results of casino games, just as there is no skill that helps you to guess the lottery numbers.

Traditionally casino games include card games, with those it's not just luck, as unlike roulette when it's either red or black you can still win even if you have the worse hand, or maximize winnings and minimize loss if you know how to play, balancing those odds and bets can make the difference.
With slots, yeah, no matter what you do long-term you're going to lose money, that's how the game is designed!
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Re: The role of Luck vs. Skill in casino games
« Reply #11 on: April 06, 2024, 08:25:27 PM »
I think the OP either doesn't know casino games very well or is one of those who believes that by doing certain things before betting, such as cross himself and the like, he's going to get 'lucky'. But as several colleagues have said there is no skill that influences the results of casino games, just as there is no skill that helps you to guess the lottery numbers. There are people who believe that by choosing certain numbers, they will be 'lucky' and will hit the jackpot, but the results are purely random and any supposed relationship between them and the way of choosing the numbers, whether lottery or roulette, is pure chance.

Ah, you’ve got me pegged as a luck believer, and maybe there’s a bit of truth in that! In the grand casino of life and games, I tend to think there’s always a sprinkle of luck involved, whether you’re spinning slots, picking lottery numbers, or sitting down for a game of poker.

But hey, let’s not sell the magic of luck short. Sure, the roll of the dice, the spin of the roulette wheel, and the shuffle of the cards are governed by the whims of chance. I won’t argue with science or statistics; they’ve got their place, marking out the battlefield where luck and probability dance. Yet, in that dance, isn’t there room for a little ritual, a little personal magic? Maybe crossing myself before a bet is more for me than the outcome, a way to step into the game with confidence, a smile, and that thrill of ‘what if.’

Now, when it comes to skill, of course, it matters in games like poker and blackjack. There’s a real art to reading the table, to bluffing, to making those smart plays. But even the best-laid strategies can be upturned by an unexpected card, a stroke of what you might call pure luck.
In my opinion, skill without luck will not enable us to win at gambling. Luck without skill will actually make us win.

For example, in sports betting, we will definitely analyze who will win, we can look at statistics, team strength, player quality and so on. However, if we have done that but luck is not on our side, then that will make us lose. So luck plays a big role in gambling.

in a slot game for example, what skills do we need? there aren't any, right?

Yet, here’s a thought: while luck can indeed lead us to win without skill, I believe that having skill can enhance the joy and satisfaction of gambling. It adds depth to the experience, especially in games where strategy does play a part. Even knowing that luck is the ultimate decider, the skill involved in making informed decisions, in trying to predict the unpredictable, is what gambling is all about.

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Re: The role of Luck vs. Skill in casino games
« Reply #12 on: April 06, 2024, 10:42:59 PM »
The games you can win by skills are hand held game such as motor racing, bike racing and bicycle racing if only you are taking part in these games then you can showcase your skills and talents to win them by yourself. Or possibly a game like whot, ludo, chess game any other similar games can be won by skills if you are skillful enough to play them. A game like football, Basketball or any game that involves teams players it's very hard to detects the outcome knowing too well that there are lot of people who  determines the results not just a single user. Single player such as wrestling or boxing all these game are skill based game. So, betting on these game can likely be that risky if you don't trust the players.

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Re: The role of Luck vs. Skill in casino games
« Reply #13 on: April 07, 2024, 12:20:21 AM »
Still luck for me, as most of the games that we found on casino floors or online are based on it, slots, roulettes, craps and anything that man invented. And so with that even in card games, you still need some luck to win. You can count cards in a black jack and have the advantage, but it will take long on your end to win. And people who think that there is a pattern in baccarat is wrong, odds might be good as compare to slots but still there still a chance that you will lose and have string of losses. Poker, what are the chance that you will get A-A and then you still don't know if you are going to win? So still there is this element of luck although there are so called professional players.

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Re: The role of Luck vs. Skill in casino games
« Reply #14 on: April 07, 2024, 02:31:43 PM »
In my opinion, skill without luck will not enable us to win at gambling. Luck without skill will actually make us win.

For example, in sports betting, we will definitely analyze who will win, we can look at statistics, team strength, player quality and so on. However, if we have done that but luck is not on our side, then that will make us lose. So luck plays a big role in gambling.

in a slot game for example, what skills do we need? there aren't any, right?

Yet, here’s a thought: while luck can indeed lead us to win without skill, I believe that having skill can enhance the joy and satisfaction of gambling. It adds depth to the experience, especially in games where strategy does play a part. Even knowing that luck is the ultimate decider, the skill involved in making informed decisions, in trying to predict the unpredictable, is what gambling is all about.
Yes, that may apply to certain types of games, but still at the end we have to have luck. In analyzing sports matches, we definitely need knowledge about the two teams that will compete, but we can only analyze without knowing what will happen.

Maybe we have a slight difference in point of view, but that's not a problem for me, because it's fine when we have differences of opinion like that. But what is clear is that we must remain careful.

 

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