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Which assets will you invest in?

Bitcoin (BTC)
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I'm Michael Saylor, just want to check voting result :)

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Re: Would you invest in BTC or MicroStrategy MSTR?
« Reply #15 on: March 20, 2024, 06:58:09 PM »
I would invest in Bitcoin directly, rather than buying through a company. If I invest in bitcoins I will have complete control over my bitcoins means I will control my own money. And I am confident about the potential of Bitcoin, I think that at some point Bitcoin will give more than expected results. Bitcoin has a lower profit return than MSTR, but Bitcoin investors value Bitcoin more than MSTR and will continue to value Bitcoin in the future.

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Re: Would you invest in BTC or MicroStrategy MSTR?
« Reply #15 on: March 20, 2024, 06:58:09 PM »

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Re: Would you invest in BTC or MicroStrategy MSTR?
« Reply #16 on: March 20, 2024, 08:20:39 PM »
I am not really a professional trader, and besides, as far as I know about Microstrategy, it is an American company that provides IT related services and its owner is Michael J. Saylor, who is one of the biggest whales in bitcoin holding competition. First of all I have mentioned that I am not a professional trader and have no idea of investing in stock market, I am just investing in Bitcoin DCA method. Since my knowledge of technical analysis is less and the concept of stock market is less, I do not see any other way except to maintain this long term holding strategy on my bitcoin. So I will only invest in Bitcoin for now.

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Re: Would you invest in BTC or MicroStrategy MSTR?
« Reply #17 on: March 21, 2024, 06:55:21 PM »
BTC Spot ETF is having a huge impact on BTC price, it is even said to be the reason why BTC has created a new ATH before Halving - something that has never happened in the past. Besides, Michael Saylor's MicroStrategy company is also extremely famous for its BTC accumulation strategy and is racing against BlackRock in terms of the amount of BTC held [1, 2]. We can say that Saylor is the most famous diamond hands in the global crypto community at this time, even more famous than the president of El Salvador, Nayib Bukele.

Saylor has previously made clear the differences between investing in MicroStrategy's MSTR stock and a BTC Spot ETF, and of course Saylor points out the advantages of MSTR that a BTC Spot ETF cannot have [3]. We still have one more question: between MSTR, a stock with most of its value backed by the number of BTC held in reserve, and BTC itself, which is the better investment?

  • In terms of profit: Since MicroStrategy started investing in BTC in August 2020, MSTR has increased by more than 1220%, while BTC has only increased by about 500%. Thus, the data shows that investing in MSTR generates more profit than investing in BTC, because MicroStrategy allows investors to leverage their investment with debt, which allows MicroStrategy to amplify its gains from BTC's price appreciation.

  • In terms of credibility: Some people believe that MicroStrategy is more credible than Bitcoin because MicroStrategy is a company with a proven track record. Therefore, investors in MicroStrategy are not just investing in BTC, they are also investing in the expertise and experience of MicroStrategy's management team [4]. I disagree with this view. The Bitcoin network is decentralized and has existed for more than a decade. It is not dependent on any individual, organization, or government. I trust the Bitcoin network more than a public company.

So, even though MSTR could generate higher returns, I will still continue to self-custody my BTC instead of investing in MicroStrategy's MSTR and then putting my faith in Michael Saylor's decisions. And even though Michael Saylor has asserted that MicroStrategy will never sell BTC [5], I think the question is only "when" and not "if".


I would like to know your views on investing in BTC and MSTR:
  • Do you choose to invest in BTC or MSTR? Why?
  • Will MSTR continue to generate better returns than BTC?
  • Is an investment in MSTR safer than an investment in BTC?

References:
[1] BlackRock and MicroStrategy in Neck and Neck Race As Firms’ Bitcoin Holdings Soar to Over $29,170,000,000 in BTC
[2] Public Companies that Own Bitcoin
[3] MicroStrategy Makes Its Case as Alternative to Spot Bitcoin ETFs
[4] Is MicroStrategy (MSTR) A Better Investment Than Bitcoin? Experts Debate
[5] Michael Saylor Suggests MicroStrategy Will Never Sell Its Bitcoin

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  • My opinion was posted first in that topic, on Bitcointalk
  • I leave the source link to avoid plagiarism accusation.
  • I excluded/ included minor things from an original thread if necessary.


Bitcoin is really a great project and good investment. Bitcoin has a huge network effect, and it safe to invest in the crypto space.i would rather invest in BTC than MSTR.

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Re: Would you invest in BTC or MicroStrategy MSTR?
« Reply #18 on: March 21, 2024, 10:48:28 PM »
Bitcoin is really a great project and good investment. Bitcoin has a huge network effect, and it safe to invest in the crypto space.i would rather invest in BTC than MSTR.
Exactly, with the advantages that Bitcoin has, the influence of the bitcoin supply is very limited and ultimately provides extraordinary price movements so that it provides a lot of profit for those who still have very large amounts of bitcoin.

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Re: Would you invest in BTC or MicroStrategy MSTR?
« Reply #19 on: March 23, 2024, 08:06:31 PM »
So, even though MSTR could generate higher returns, I will still continue to self-custody my BTC instead of investing in MicroStrategy's MSTR and then putting my faith in Michael Saylor's decisions. And even though Michael Saylor has asserted that MicroStrategy will never sell BTC [5], I think the question is only "when" and not "if".

I would like to know your views on investing in BTC and MSTR:
  • Do you choose to invest in BTC or MSTR? Why?
  • Will MSTR continue to generate better returns than BTC?
  • Is an investment in MSTR safer than an investment in BTC?
I'm not based in the US so I can't invest in MSTR, but it's really attractive if chosen based on profit performance.

1. If possible, I would choose both: a majority holding in BTC for safety and high returns, and a smaller portion to buy MSTR with higher risk but also proven higher returns by data.

2. In a bull run, the rising price of BTC will drive up the price of MSTR, especially through financial leverage and thanks to the large number of investors and strong capital flow on the stock exchanges, MSTR will increase in price even more than BTC.

3. As you mentioned, I also don't believe MSTR is safer than BTC. That means investing in MSTR is no safer than investing in BTC, it's just more accessible to traditional investors who want to diversify their portfolio with a BTC-related stock.
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Re: Would you invest in BTC or MicroStrategy MSTR?
« Reply #20 on: March 23, 2024, 10:06:59 PM »
I would like to know your views on investing in BTC and MSTR:
  • Do you choose to invest in BTC or MSTR? Why?
  • Will MSTR continue to generate better returns than BTC?
  • Is an investment in MSTR safer than an investment in BTC?

As long as I am capable of holding onto my Bitcoin safely and securely, I don't need to invest in MSTR because it is just better that you hold onto your asset by yourself with the determination not to sell unless you have accumulated the amount of profit you desire. 

If an individual invests in MSTR for a certain amount, I think they will still have the amount of profit that is equal to their capital if they invest in Bitcoin and hold until the price has surged to the same price that MSTR would sell their holdings. 

It depends on the individual's ability to store their assets in such a way that they will not fall victim to hacks or thefts that can result in the loss of funds. Apart from that, investing and having your Bitcoin in your custody is the best. 

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Re: Would you invest in BTC or MicroStrategy MSTR?
« Reply #21 on: March 24, 2024, 11:52:43 AM »
BlackRock already has 239,252 BTC worth 15.6bn$ on its balance sheet as collateral for a spot Bitcoin ETF - that's more than 1.1% of the final issuance of the first cryptocurrency.

Source: https://www.ishares.com/us/products/333011/ishares-bitcoin-trust

In the meantime:

Technology company MicroStrategy also holds more than 1% of the total BTC supply - the company's first cryptocurrency reserves total 214,246 BTC.

Source: https://dropstab.com/p/microstrategy-crypto-portfolio-4crikwkuk4
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Re: Would you invest in BTC or MicroStrategy MSTR?
« Reply #21 on: March 24, 2024, 11:52:43 AM »


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Re: Would you invest in BTC or MicroStrategy MSTR?
« Reply #22 on: March 24, 2024, 03:37:48 PM »
Personally I am invested in bitcoin, although if I had considerably more money I wouldn't mind having a small percentage in MSTR shares, as it is like adding a potential risk that also gives you a higher potential return. These things always have to be done with a small percentage of your portfolio, ideally no more than 5%, and that's why I say I could do it at some point.
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Re: Would you invest in BTC or MicroStrategy MSTR?
« Reply #23 on: March 26, 2024, 06:00:33 PM »
  • Do you choose to invest in BTC or MSTR? Why?
  • Will MSTR continue to generate better returns than BTC?
  • Is an investment in MSTR safer than an investment in BTC?
1. I will choose BTC because I am not familiar with the US stock market. Holding BTC in my account makes me feel more comfortable being in control of my assets.

2. In the past, MSTR has generated better returns than BTC, and this may continue in the uptrend due to Saylor's promotional ability.

3. For people who are not experienced in using blockchain, buying MSTR is easier and safer for them, because everything is in their brokerage account. On the other hand, people who understand blockchain will prefer to self-custody BTC because Bitcoin blockchain is more secure than the exchange management system.
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Re: Would you invest in BTC or MicroStrategy MSTR?
« Reply #24 on: March 27, 2024, 06:46:55 PM »
Personally I am invested in bitcoin, although if I had considerably more money I wouldn't mind having a small percentage in MSTR shares, as it is like adding a potential risk that also gives you a higher potential return. These things always have to be done with a small percentage of your portfolio, ideally no more than 5%, and that's why I say I could do it at some point.
When you choose Bitcoin as a place to invest then it is the right choice, so far Bitcoin has provided a lot of profit for those who buy Bitcoin at a cheap price. Imagine if you knew in 2010 that Bitcoin would become this expensive then at that time you will buy very large amounts of bitcoin.

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Re: Would you invest in BTC or MicroStrategy MSTR?
« Reply #25 on: March 29, 2024, 12:39:52 AM »
As long as I am capable of holding onto my Bitcoin safely and securely, I don't need to invest in MSTR because it is just better that you hold onto your asset by yourself with the determination not to sell unless you have accumulated the amount of profit you desire.

If an individual invests in MSTR for a certain amount, I think they will still have the amount of profit that is equal to their capital if they invest in Bitcoin and hold until the price has surged to the same price that MSTR would sell their holdings.

It depends on the individual's ability to store their assets in such a way that they will not fall victim to hacks or thefts that can result in the loss of funds. Apart from that, investing and having your Bitcoin in your custody is the best.
Currently, thanks to financial leverage, we see MSTR generating higher returns than BTC, I believe this will still be true in the 2024-2025 uptrend. Traditional investors may be attracted to this, while experienced crypto investors will choose BTC for its security and self-custody capabilities.

I think investors can allocate assets to both BTC and MSTR to get the benefits of both while still ensuring high returns and low risk.

Regarding the possibility of MS selling crypto: I think we will soon have an answer from MS in 2026.

 

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