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Title: Regarding demoting Global Mods and mods
Post by: admin on November 08, 2019, 06:45:03 PM
This is a community forum, thus you are here because you like it, or at least i hope so ...

A lot of times i demote mods, usually it's because they are not doing their task well, in some cases it's about abuse of power and in very rare cases it's because of more complex issues.

Few times i even demoted global mods, in all these cases, it was never about the mod involvement in this forum, because to become a global mod you had to be really the top of the top. So why have i been unjust ?
It is because of conflict on interests. You can not be riding a race horse and betting on another, as simple as that.

Crypto forums have been popping up like crazy since 2 years, and every time a new one pops up, they pitch our top mods, and many of them accept to join the new forums, especially if they are being paid for their time - which till this point we haven't really done here on this forum.

This said, i usually avoid to have a global mod here, who is an admin or global mod on some new forum,
why ? because everytime it happened it led to the exodus of many of our members and weakening of this forum.

We are not a huge forum, we can not afford to keep losing active members ...
Title: Re: Regarding demoting Global Mods and mods
Post by: bubbalex on November 08, 2019, 06:54:08 PM
But you actually losing active members even when you removing people from mods, especially for removing. They helped to launch bounty campaigns here, now they will not be such interested, as well as people who trusted them. I'm not going to tell you how to be an admin of the forum, I just want to post my opinion, as a part of this forum community. And there is no problem at all to be a member of couple forums, more platforms = more opportunities.

I'm trusted manager on other forums, but I'm interested in altcoinstalks as well, and this interest from my side exist because of good russian mods, who removed from their status recently. I think bounty campaigns is a huge part of crypto forum existing, without them there will be much less activity.

It's just an opinion, I hope I'll not receive ban for that, I need to finish current campaign here first 😅
Title: Re: Regarding demoting Global Mods and mods
Post by: Jokers on November 08, 2019, 07:07:46 PM
This said, i usually avoid to have a global mod here, who is an admin or global mod on some new forum,
why ? because everytime it happened it led to the exodus of many of our members and weakening of this forum.

We are not a huge forum, we can not afford to keep losing active members ...

Yes, but we do loose. And this is not because of these really good for our forum guys, but because of your decision. These users are among pillars of our community, and while you make them leave this forum, you make the whole community decide what to do. Everything was good yesterday. We all knew about new forum, but mostly everyone preferred to communicate here, because of our community, we liked this place with a friendly atmosphere. Today we see, that you attack the people we respect and consider as important part of our community. The forum becomes an unfriendly place. You deleted two topics where community unanimously said that we do support Bigpat and epidemia. Your decision makes this forum weaker. Don't do it.
Title: Re: Regarding demoting Global Mods and mods
Post by: admin on November 08, 2019, 07:08:32 PM
But you actually losing active members even when you removing people from mods, especially for removing. They helped to launch bounty campaigns here, now they will not be such interested, as well as people who trusted them. I'm not going to tell you how to be an admin of the forum, I just want to post my opinion, as a part of this forum community. And there is no problem at all to be a member of couple forums, more platforms = more opportunities.

I'm trusted manager on bitcointalk, but I'm interested in altcoinstalks as well, and this interest from my side exist because of good russian mods, who removed from their status recently. I think bounty campaigns is a huge part of crypto forum existing, without them there will be much less activity.

It's just an opinion, I hope I'll not receive ban for that, I need to finish current campaign here first 😅

of course, i value your opinion
both mods are still mods, i never removed them from mods status,
however global mod status is a bit tricky, thus i explained my point of view above
also, most members are also on btt, and of course it's not an issue, some members are mods, and some mods are mods somewhere else, again that's not an issue.
But global mod here, i prefer to keep it for mods that are not mods somewhere else.
Title: Re: Regarding demoting Global Mods and mods
Post by: admin on November 08, 2019, 07:10:45 PM
This said, i usually avoid to have a global mod here, who is an admin or global mod on some new forum,
why ? because everytime it happened it led to the exodus of many of our members and weakening of this forum.

We are not a huge forum, we can not afford to keep losing active members ...

Yes, but we do loose. And this is not because of these really good for our forum guys, but because of your decision. These users are among pillars of our community, and while you make them leave this forum, you make the whole community decide what to do. Everything was good yesterday. We all knew about new forum, but mostly everyone preferred to communicate here, because of our community, we liked this place with a friendly atmosphere. Today we see, that you attack the people we respect and consider as important part of our community. The forum becomes an unfriendly place. You deleted two topics where community unanimously said that we do support Bigpat and epidemia. Your decision makes this forum weaker. Don't do it.

noted, i will be considering this action, and will have discussions with some team members concerning this issue
Title: Re: Regarding demoting Global Mods and mods
Post by: bubbalex on November 08, 2019, 07:11:17 PM
But you actually losing active members even when you removing people from mods, especially for removing. They helped to launch bounty campaigns here, now they will not be such interested, as well as people who trusted them. I'm not going to tell you how to be an admin of the forum, I just want to post my opinion, as a part of this forum community. And there is no problem at all to be a member of couple forums, more platforms = more opportunities.

I'm trusted manager on bitcointalk, but I'm interested in altcoinstalks as well, and this interest from my side exist because of good russian mods, who removed from their status recently. I think bounty campaigns is a huge part of crypto forum existing, without them there will be much less activity.

It's just an opinion, I hope I'll not receive ban for that, I need to finish current campaign here first 😅

of course, i value your opinion
both mods are still mods, i never removed them from mods status,
however global mod status is a bit tricky, thus i explained my point of view above
also, most members are also on btt, and of course it's not an issue, some members are mods, and some mods are mods somewhere else, again that's not an issue.
But global mod here, i prefer to keep it for mods that are not mods somewhere else.
Well, now your position is at least clear. Thanks for the explanation.
I still don't understand how the position of the global moderator prevents someone from being a moderator of another forum, but this is your decision.
Nevertheless, I agree with the Jokers, such actions in relation to the epidemia and Bigpat, make the whole community, which they helped to think about. I really like this forum, but such sanctions with similar arguments make me think that tomorrow you may limit me here, just because I am a manager somewhere else.
A bad precedent is being created.
Title: Re: Regarding demoting Global Mods and mods
Post by: GREENch85 on November 08, 2019, 07:13:39 PM
I’ll venture to suggest that most users will lose all or part of the forum’s interest if bubbalex ceases to publish its bounty companies on it, and this may happen due to an aggressive policy on the part of the administration. And because of what it will happen ....
Title: Re: Regarding demoting Global Mods and mods
Post by: admin on November 08, 2019, 07:17:12 PM
I’ll venture to suggest that most users will lose all or part of the forum’s interest if bubbalex ceases to publish its bounty companies on it, and this may happen due to an aggressive policy on the part of the administration. And because of what it will happen ....

don't threaten me, i am listening to inputs but refuse to be threatened
Title: Re: Regarding demoting Global Mods and mods
Post by: bubbalex on November 08, 2019, 07:23:17 PM
I’ll venture to suggest that most users will lose all or part of the forum’s interest if bubbalex ceases to publish its bounty companies on it, and this may happen due to an aggressive policy on the part of the administration. And because of what it will happen ....

don't threaten me, i am listening to inputs but refuse to be threatened
It's just his opinion, I want to clarify that I’m not going to threaten you, I just expressed an opinion about people whose departure from this forum will be critical for me. These people raise a lot of activity here, and although this is not critical, I’m sure that fact they are being deprived of their status as a global moderator for such reason (I don't think your opinion is wrong, I mean that the reason is not a violation of their duties) - it offends them in a certain degrees, and these people obviously will not want to invest as much effort further.
Title: Re: Regarding demoting Global Mods and mods
Post by: admin on November 08, 2019, 07:27:12 PM
in few similar cases i banned the mods, and other mods were removed from duties, however i am currently have a discussion with the team to see if the action i took was appropriate and if not what are the alternatives
Title: Re: Regarding demoting Global Mods and mods
Post by: GREENch85 on November 08, 2019, 07:28:50 PM
I’ll venture to suggest that most users will lose all or part of the forum’s interest if bubbalex ceases to publish its bounty companies on it, and this may happen due to an aggressive policy on the part of the administration. And because of what it will happen ....

don't threaten me, i am listening to inputs but refuse to be threatened
What does the threat have to do with it? Do not take everything so aggressively! I expressed my vision of the situation and suggested what could happen next, no more and no less!
Title: Re: Regarding demoting Global Mods and mods
Post by: admin on November 08, 2019, 07:30:59 PM
I’ll venture to suggest that most users will lose all or part of the forum’s interest if bubbalex ceases to publish its bounty companies on it, and this may happen due to an aggressive policy on the part of the administration. And because of what it will happen ....

don't threaten me, i am listening to inputs but refuse to be threatened
What does the threat have to do with it? Do not take everything so aggressively! I expressed my vision of the situation and suggested what could happen next, no more and no less!

ok noted, tensions are high, sorry for misunderstanding
Title: Re: Regarding demoting Global Mods and mods
Post by: bubbalex on November 08, 2019, 07:35:59 PM
in few similar cases i banned the mods, and other mods were removed from duties, however i am currently have a discussion with the team to see if the action i took was appropriate and if not what are the alternatives
Any discussion is already good.

I will write here the last message:

1. They did not exceed their authority
2. They cope with their duties
3. They not promoting here other forum which they working in
4. They are respected and important to their community
5. They objectively made a huge contribution to the development of this forum
6. They are leading whole Russian community, which almost most active here, without them - forum will lose active members, what is not your goal, as you noted in first message

I respect your right to ban anyone here for violating the rules, to deny the status of a moderator for abuse of authority or for not managing duties, but! To deprive people, who put so much effort into this forum absolutely free of charge, of their status only because they want to earn somewhere else?
Title: Re: Regarding demoting Global Mods and mods
Post by: Jokers on November 08, 2019, 07:40:44 PM
in few similar cases i banned the mods, and other mods were removed from duties, however i am currently have a discussion with the team to see if the action i took was appropriate and if not what are the alternatives

It depends on exact users. As I'm active in Serbian subforum recent time, I know that there is a moderator there. But if you would remove him from that subforum oneday... well, I'm not sure that I would find that out. Not because that moderator is bad, but because I know too little about him as a user of our forum. Even while 73.81% of posts in Serbian subforum are made by me. The situation with Bigpat and epidemia is different.
Title: Re: Regarding demoting Global Mods and mods
Post by: admin on November 08, 2019, 07:47:28 PM
in few similar cases i banned the mods, and other mods were removed from duties, however i am currently have a discussion with the team to see if the action i took was appropriate and if not what are the alternatives

It depends on exact users. As I'm active in Serbian subforum recent time, I know that there is a moderator there. But if you would remove him from that subforum oneday... well, I'm not sure that I would find that out. Not because that moderator is bad, but because I know too little about him as a user of our forum. Even while 73.81% of posts in Serbian subforum are made by me. The situation with Bigpat and epidemia is different.

Bigpat and epidemia, are valuable members of our forum no doubt about that,
and until the removal from global mods, they were valuable members of team, no doubt
this said, i have opened a discussion channel to see this with the other team members
Title: Re: Regarding demoting Global Mods and mods
Post by: epidemia on November 08, 2019, 07:56:47 PM
I'm here) I read everything) Admin, do you have a further development plan for the forum? :)
Title: Re: Regarding demoting Global Mods and mods
Post by: bubbalex on November 08, 2019, 07:56:52 PM
in few similar cases i banned the mods, and other mods were removed from duties, however i am currently have a discussion with the team to see if the action i took was appropriate and if not what are the alternatives

It depends on exact users. As I'm active in Serbian subforum recent time, I know that there is a moderator there. But if you would remove him from that subforum oneday... well, I'm not sure that I would find that out. Not because that moderator is bad, but because I know too little about him as a user of our forum. Even while 73.81% of posts in Serbian subforum are made by me. The situation with Bigpat and epidemia is different.

Bigpat and epidemia, are valuable members of our forum no doubt about that,
and until the removal from global mods, they were valuable members of team, no doubt

this said, i have opened a discussion channel to see this with the other team members
After this post, I understand even less why they were stripped of their status if they are such valuable members.

I will be waiting for your decision after discussion with your team, thank you for listening to opinions.

The sooner this happens, the better, because the debate on this topic will continue and without a final decision on your part, it will not be constructive. Because most of us want to be given them status back, but it’s not in our powers, now we have expressed our opinion in the hope of influencing your decision, but the decision is still yours and we will have to come to terms with it.

Now surely last message here from me until your final decision.
Title: Re: Regarding demoting Global Mods and mods
Post by: admin on November 08, 2019, 08:03:57 PM
I'm here) I read everything) Admin, do you have a further development plan for the forum? :)
what do you mean exactly by a dev. plan ?
Title: Re: Regarding demoting Global Mods and mods
Post by: epidemia on November 08, 2019, 08:14:57 PM
what do you mean exactly by a dev. plan ?

1. How to invite new projects to the forum?
2. How to invite new people to the forum?
3. What needs to be done to ensure that active forum users stay here?
4. What to do to make the forum token valuable? It's a crypto, there’s no way without "candy wrappers" :)

Answer me at least these questions. You are a clever man, but during my time on the forum, I still have not received answers to these questions.
Title: Re: Regarding demoting Global Mods and mods
Post by: admin on November 08, 2019, 08:32:35 PM
what do you mean exactly by a dev. plan ?

1. How to invite new projects to the forum?
2. How to invite new people to the forum?
3. What needs to be done to ensure that active forum users stay here?
4. What to do to make the forum token valuable? It's a crypto, there’s no way without "candy wrappers" :)

Answer me at least these questions. You are a clever man, but during my time on the forum, I still have not received answers to these questions.

1. that's a lot of leg work, not easy
2. we had different promotions in the past - thus this is answered
3. good question, i don't know the answer.
4. still figuring this part out, however for this to happen all 3 previous questions should be resolved
Title: Re: Regarding demoting Global Mods and mods
Post by: bubbalex on November 08, 2019, 08:36:06 PM
what do you mean exactly by a dev. plan ?

1. How to invite new projects to the forum?
2. How to invite new people to the forum?
3. What needs to be done to ensure that active forum users stay here?
4. What to do to make the forum token valuable? It's a crypto, there’s no way without "candy wrappers" :)

Answer me at least these questions. You are a clever man, but during my time on the forum, I still have not received answers to these questions.

1. that's a lot of leg work, not easy
2. we had different promotions in the past - thus this is answered
3. good question, i don't know the answer.
4. still figuring this part out, however for this to happen all 3 previous questions should be resolved
I know the answer to the third question, at least do not impose sanctions against the most active and respected users, creating tension in the community.

Sorry, I twice promised not to write anything else until your final decision, but I just can’t stay away, I work here and the whole situation is extremely important to me.
Title: Re: Regarding demoting Global Mods and mods
Post by: admin on November 08, 2019, 08:55:49 PM
what do you mean exactly by a dev. plan ?

1. How to invite new projects to the forum?
2. How to invite new people to the forum?
3. What needs to be done to ensure that active forum users stay here?
4. What to do to make the forum token valuable? It's a crypto, there’s no way without "candy wrappers" :)

Answer me at least these questions. You are a clever man, but during my time on the forum, I still have not received answers to these questions.

1. that's a lot of leg work, not easy
2. we had different promotions in the past - thus this is answered
3. good question, i don't know the answer.
4. still figuring this part out, however for this to happen all 3 previous questions should be resolved
I know the answer to the third question, at least do not impose sanctions against the most active and respected users, creating tension in the community.

Sorry, I twice promised not to write anything else until your final decision, but I just can’t stay away, I work here and the whole situation is extremely important to me.

well the sanctions are not arbitrary, i am not a dictator,
however in certain cases tough actions should be taken,

few months ago, we had a global mod in charge of the junior spartans, i discovered that her friend had launched a competing forum, and as per miracle half the junior spartans have became active members on that forum.
Before that, our 2 top philipino mods, one was forum team, also teamed up with a guy to lunch a competing forum, and we lost many members that went to the new forum.
i had to act fast in both cases, still we lost many active users, even top active users.
both forums are now inactive, but from the users that left only very few came back.

So yeah, that's the issue
Title: Re: Regarding demoting Global Mods and mods
Post by: bubbalex on November 08, 2019, 09:14:46 PM
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well the sanctions are not arbitrary, i am not a dictator,
however in certain cases tough actions should be taken,

few months ago, we had a global mod in charge of the junior spartans, i discovered that her friend had launched a competing forum, and as per miracle half the junior spartans have became active members on that forum.
Before that, our 2 top philipino mods, one was forum team, also teamed up with a guy to lunch a competing forum, and we lost many members that went to the new forum.
i had to act fast in both cases, still we lost many active users, even top active users.
both forums are now inactive, but from the users that left only very few came back.

So yeah, that's the issue
Well, if people continuing to leave forum, maybe the problem in forum, not in people?

Anyway, I still think that deprive people, just for being active on other forum - not solving an issue, it's just makes them stay on another forum, as altcoinstalks even worse for them now after depriving of status or ban.

In any case, this is already your personal business with the epidemia and Bigpat, there was a precedent and we, as a community, spoke out, now you heard us and entered into a dialogue with them, then it is up to you and them to solve this issue. I want to believe that the issue will be solved well for everyone, but we'll see.
Title: Re: Regarding demoting Global Mods and mods
Post by: admin on November 08, 2019, 09:36:32 PM
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well the sanctions are not arbitrary, i am not a dictator,
however in certain cases tough actions should be taken,

few months ago, we had a global mod in charge of the junior spartans, i discovered that her friend had launched a competing forum, and as per miracle half the junior spartans have became active members on that forum.
Before that, our 2 top philipino mods, one was forum team, also teamed up with a guy to lunch a competing forum, and we lost many members that went to the new forum.
i had to act fast in both cases, still we lost many active users, even top active users.
both forums are now inactive, but from the users that left only very few came back.

So yeah, that's the issue
Well, if people continuing to leave forum, maybe the problem in forum, not in people?

Anyway, I still think that deprive people, just for being active on other forum - not solving an issue, it's just makes them stay on another forum, as altcoinstalks even worse for them now after depriving of status or ban.

In any case, this is already your personal business with the epidemia and Bigpat, there was a precedent and we, as a community, spoke out, now you heard us and entered into a dialogue with them, then it is up to you and them to solve this issue. I want to believe that the issue will be solved well for everyone, but we'll see.

it's not an issue of something wrong with the forum, but everytime that this happens i see members following the mods to a new forum
same with epidemia and bigpat, many of our legends have followed them to the new forum, "you" are also on the other forum

thus the 100 million $ question... if all these global mods that joined other forums were really just joining another forum without backstabbing this one, then none of the other members should have followed them, because none would have been informed.
but once you inform the gang, hey let's go to this new forum. that's technically backstabbing.
This wouldn't matter for a forum like bitcointalk, but for a small forum like ours that's devastating, and have been happening too frequently.
why? i don't know ... maybe at bitcointalk all the global mods are so rich in btc that they would disregard any such attempt to lure them.
for the cases of epidemia and bigpat, i understand that they are getting paid as a work, thus makes things less bloody than in the other 2-3 cases!

the funny part, is that our decline have been precisely caused by these backstabbing events, the forum once had 1000 members logged in simultaneously, now we barely have a 100 - and that's if.
 
Title: Re: Regarding demoting Global Mods and mods
Post by: bubbalex on November 08, 2019, 10:12:16 PM
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it's not an issue of something wrong with the forum, but everytime that this happens i see members following the mods to a new forum
same with epidemia and bigpat, many of our legends have followed them to the new forum, "you" are also on the other forum

thus the 100 million $ question... if all these global mods that joined other forums were really just joining another forum without backstabbing this one, then none of the other members should have followed them, because none would have been informed.
but once you inform the gang, hey let's go to this new forum. that's technically backstabbing.
This wouldn't matter for a forum like bitcointalk, but for a small forum like ours that's devastating, and have been happening too frequently.
why? i don't know ... maybe at bitcointalk all the global mods are so rich in btc that they would disregard any such attempt to lure them.
for the cases of epidemia and bigpat, i understand that they are getting paid as a work, thus makes things less bloody than in the other 2-3 cases!

the funny part, is that our decline have been precisely caused by these backstabbing events, the forum once had 1000 members logged in simultaneously, now we barely have a 100 - and that's if.
You completely wrong, first, non of us learned about this new forum (which we can't talk about here) because epidemia or Bigpat told us - hey, join new forum! This is ridiculous. This forum doing big promotion campaign on bitcointalk right now, they paying people for posting and doing signature campaign on bitcointalk, I even created those signatures for them. That's how everyone learned about this new forum.

Second, you not the one who can decide where I can join and where I can't. You can restrict me here, but I'm paid worker offering services and you not the one who paying me, so I'm looking for places where I can earn money, as well as all others.

The more platforms = the more opportunities, there is no problem, any project wants to be promoted on as much platforms as possible, I'm managing bounty campaigns here now, but I'm doing bounty campaigns on bitcointalk as well.
Why do I joined altcoinstalks, if I can work on bitcointalk? - Because altcoinstalks also a good platform, and not because altcoinstalks censorship other forums. We all know about all other forums, ok? We don't need epidemia or Bigpat or any other mods to tell us about new good forum, if forum good - we will know about it anyway.

I can tell you facts:

1. epidemia is the one who bring me here, because of that I did Ferrum Network bounty campaign here.
2. Bigpat helped me when I was newbie here, he is the one who convinced the Agareum team to conduct a bounty campaign here, now I am conducting the second bounty campaign here.
4. I managing second bounty campaign on this forum and bringing my own community of bounty hunters.
3. You demoted them only because they work on another forum, although here you don’t pay them at all.
4. Neither I nor anyone else was going to leave altcoinstalks just because another forum appeared. It's just as stupid as leaving bitcointalk because of altcoinstalks.
5. Your legends following other legends/mods and leaving this forum, because legends are always looking for opportunities.
6. Now, after this case all of us thinking about leaving this forum and this is not a threaten, this is fact. I can speak only for myself, why do I thinking about leaving this forum? - because admin of this forum can restrict me just because I'm working on other forums too. I don't want to launch bounty campaign on forum, where I'm not sure about tomorrow. All my campaigns here supported by Russian community and epidemia and Bigpat personally. Without them there will be no sense to launch bounty here, there is no active people without ru community and now all Russian community disappointed, because most trusted members restricted for no logic reason.

Who is helping this forum to stay active after all? I do appreciate your work, you created this forum, but restricting most active users of this forum will leads to activity decreasing, not increasing.

I hope to finish my current bounty campaign here without any restrictions, but I'm not sure that I will launch any new campaign, since no one will join. I have responsibility to the project's team - I need to show them good activity, otherwise they will not pay for promotion here, nor me, nor participants. I'm done with this issue, it's not my business anymore, wish you luck with development. I'm just a manager who wants stable platform to stay stable.

Wow. Full Member already, yahoo!  ;D
Title: Re: Regarding demoting Global Mods and mods
Post by: admin on November 08, 2019, 10:46:52 PM
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it's not an issue of something wrong with the forum, but everytime that this happens i see members following the mods to a new forum
same with epidemia and bigpat, many of our legends have followed them to the new forum, "you" are also on the other forum

thus the 100 million $ question... if all these global mods that joined other forums were really just joining another forum without backstabbing this one, then none of the other members should have followed them, because none would have been informed.
but once you inform the gang, hey let's go to this new forum. that's technically backstabbing.
This wouldn't matter for a forum like bitcointalk, but for a small forum like ours that's devastating, and have been happening too frequently.
why? i don't know ... maybe at bitcointalk all the global mods are so rich in btc that they would disregard any such attempt to lure them.
for the cases of epidemia and bigpat, i understand that they are getting paid as a work, thus makes things less bloody than in the other 2-3 cases!

the funny part, is that our decline have been precisely caused by these backstabbing events, the forum once had 1000 members logged in simultaneously, now we barely have a 100 - and that's if.
You completely wrong, first, non of us learned about this new forum (which we can't talk about here) because epidemia or Bigpat told us - hey, join new forum! This is ridiculous. This forum doing big promotion campaign on bitcointalk right now, they paying people for posting and doing signature campaign on bitcointalk, I even created those signatures for them. That's how everyone learned about this new forum.

Second, you not the one who can decide where I can join and where I can't. You can restrict me here, but I'm paid worker offering services and you not the one who paying me, so I'm looking for places where I can earn money, as well as all others.

The more platforms = the more opportunities, there is no problem, any project wants to be promoted on as much platforms as possible, I'm managing bounty campaigns here now, but I'm doing bounty campaigns on bitcointalk as well.
Why do I joined altcoinstalks, if I can work on bitcointalk? - Because altcoinstalks also a good platform, and not because altcoinstalks censorship other forums. We all know about all other forums, ok? We don't need epidemia or Bigpat or any other mods to tell us about new good forum, if forum good - we will know about it anyway.

I can tell you facts:

1. epidemia is the one who bring me here, because of that I did Ferrum Network bounty campaign here.
2. Bigpat helped me when I was newbie here, he is the one who convinced the Agareum team to conduct a bounty campaign here, now I am conducting the second bounty campaign here.
4. I managing second bounty campaign on this forum and bringing my own community of bounty hunters.
3. You demoted them only because they work on another forum, although here you don’t pay them at all.
4. Neither I nor anyone else was going to leave altcoinstalks just because another forum appeared. It's just as stupid as leaving bitcointalk because of altcoinstalks.
5. Your legends following other legends/mods and leaving this forum, because legends are always looking for opportunities.
6. Now, after this case all of us thinking about leaving this forum and this is not a threaten, this is fact. I can speak only for myself, why do I thinking about leaving this forum? - because admin of this forum can restrict me just because I'm working on other forums too. I don't want to launch bounty campaign on forum, where I'm not sure about tomorrow. All my campaigns here supported by Russian community and epidemia and Bigpat personally. Without them there will be no sense to launch bounty here, there is no active people without ru community and now all Russian community disappointed, because most trusted members restricted for no logic reason.

Who is helping this forum to stay active after all? I do appreciate your work, you created this forum, but restricting most active users of this forum will leads to activity decreasing, not increasing.

I hope to finish my current bounty campaign here without any restrictions, but I'm not sure that I will launch any new campaign, since no one will join. I have responsibility to the project's team - I need to show them good activity, otherwise they will not pay for promotion here, nor me, nor participants. I'm done with this issue, it's not my business anymore, wish you luck with development. I'm just a manager who wants stable platform to stay stable.

Wow. Full Member already, yahoo!  ;D

Well in the case of this new forum, they did indeed spend a lot of money promoting
But in the case of the 2 other forums, there was none, users were recruited by the mods

This said, as i said i am discussing the issue, thus it's not a finished deal

Concerning campaigns, you are free to post your campaigns here of course, if you followed the rules no one will bother you, whether in the future you want to launch new bounties it's up to you.

There is a lot of pressure from the community, i see that, thus taking the time to analyse differents points.

6- the most trusted members are not restricted, they just lost global mod rank!  and if you take this issue to 100 forum admin, all of them would have done the same if not worse.



Title: Re: Regarding demoting Global Mods and mods
Post by: admin on November 09, 2019, 01:18:11 PM
The forum team have voted
and thus both epidemia and bigpat are being restored as global mods

I was against this, because there is a clear conflict of interest
however this forum have been set to be for the people and by the people, thus the team vote overrides my decision
i hope epidemia and bigpat will not disappoint all those that have raised their voices to support them.
Title: Re: Regarding demoting Global Mods and mods
Post by: Jokers on November 09, 2019, 01:30:23 PM
I hail this decision! It is good for our community, doesn't matter what would be in the future! It is strengthening our forum today!👍
Title: Re: Regarding demoting Global Mods and mods
Post by: bubbalex on November 09, 2019, 02:18:18 PM
The forum team have voted
and thus both epidemia and bigpat are being restored as global mods

I was against this, because there is a clear conflict of interest
however this forum have been set to be for the people and by the people, thus the team vote overrides my decision
i hope epidemia and bigpat will not disappoint all those that have raised their voices to support them.
Good solution, will see what happens in near future. I hope that this forum will stay such good place as it is now and even become better.
Title: Re: Regarding demoting Global Mods and mods
Post by: AMG. on November 10, 2019, 01:17:05 PM
The forum team have voted
and thus both epidemia and bigpat are being restored as global mods

I was against this, because there is a clear conflict of interest
however this forum have been set to be for the people and by the people, thus the team vote overrides my decision
i hope epidemia and bigpat will not disappoint all those that have raised their voices to support them.

Your actions are worthy of respect. I was very concerned about the decision, a big plus in karma ;)
Title: Re: Regarding demoting Global Mods and mods
Post by: dragononcrypto on November 10, 2019, 01:22:48 PM
I voted for your reinstatements so please don't let me down epidemia and bigpat  :P
Respect to admin for acceptance of being overruled by global mods  8)
Title: Re: Regarding demoting Global Mods and mods
Post by: alltalk on November 13, 2019, 04:08:03 AM

1. How to invite new projects to the forum?
2. How to invite new people to the forum?
3. What needs to be done to ensure that active forum users stay here?
4. What to do to make the forum token valuable? It's a crypto, there’s no way without "candy wrappers" :)

Answer me at least these questions. You are a clever man, but during my time on the forum, I still have not received answers to these questions.

Great questions. I agree that those should have the answers (solutions) and must take serious attention. Especially for question number 1 and number 3. These can be some keys to make our forum continues to survive & improve.

Basically, not only need more active users but also the local board mods are needed to be more active. For example in my local board, I rarely saw the activity of the mods. The local board mods also have a big contribution to keep the local community alive and active.

Anyway, commonly the reason for people to stay in a forum is about the project. Since I assume many members are bounty hunters and investors, we need to ensure there will be regular new projects and bounty programs.   

For question number 4, I suggest listing the forum tokens on a better exchange.
Title: Re: Regarding demoting Global Mods and mods
Post by: endlasuresh on December 19, 2019, 07:15:24 PM

of course, i value your opinion
both mods are still mods, i never removed them from mods status,
however global mod status is a bit tricky, thus i explained my point of view above
also, most members are also on btt, and of course it's not an issue, some members are mods, and some mods are mods somewhere else, again that's not an issue.
But global mod here, i prefer to keep it for mods that are not mods somewhere else.
You should ask the members permission before doing anything in forums, if they saw something which hurts them, then start to leave this forums. I would suggest to you a voting system and see what people wants from this forum.
Everyone is equal and everyone should follow the forums rules.