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Crypto Discussion Forum => Cryptocurrency discussions => Topic started by: Bobcrypto on March 10, 2021, 02:47:27 PM
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Many of us had learnt some of the signs of a possible bounty projects scams, like no or poor white papers, identity of project team members etc, but I think that the biggest sign of a bounty scam is the hunters telegram ban by project team for speaking out about the coin/token distributions. I have experienced this situations severally and I think that it is the biggest sign of a bounty scam in recent times. What do you think?
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Good topic Bro, but banning hunters from the main telegram group is not the sign that they are scam. Majority of bounties has a rules that hunters must not ask questions in the main group specifically if the question is about for hunters. If there is a rule, then they have the right to ban hunters asking question about bounty concern. However, if hunters asked question not related to bounties. Instead related to the project team and the platform. It is about time to doubt them and leave the group is there is a strong sign of scam.
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These are indeed signs of possible fraud, since the absence of the team's personalities on the official website may indicate that their intentions are not very good.
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What's should we do mate ? A lots of bounty campaigns are available in the cryptocurrencies market but very different to understand. Many reputed bounties campaigns Manager managed scams bounty campaigns.
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In addition to these signs, there is still a possibility that the project will not be able to get the necessary amount of money during the token sale and will return all the collected funds to investors, well, bounty hunters will be left with nothing.
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I don't think banning of members that speaks about distribution is a sign of bounty scam. Didn't they read the general rules that asking a questions about the bounty in the official channel this can lead them to ban. Most of the bounties has this rules so it's not a sign of scam to me. Research the project is only way that we can determined if the project is a scam or legit.
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Many of us had learnt some of the signs of a possible bounty projects scams, like no or poor white papers, identity of project team members etc, but I think that the biggest sign of a bounty scam is the hunters telegram ban by project team for speaking out about the coin/token distributions. I have experienced this situations severally and I think that it is the biggest sign of a bounty scam in recent times. What do you think?
This is not a yard stick to measure scam because if that is the case many projects do this, they ban any account that ask any challenging questions regarding their project, the truth is crypto space is full of insecurity, any little thing anyone says people tag it as fud and request you to be banned from the group ,
So in my opinion this is very common to crypto space and do not determine a project to be scam.
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Another mistake that scammers make a lot is partially copying another project's white paper. On many occasions that has been the key point to hunt them down and mark them negatively, also the banning of users as indicated by the OP, the silence of moderators and administrators, excuses of any kind, half truths, "soon" answers...
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Some of them are the signs of scam bounties/projects, but it didn't always happen in all scam bounties/projects. If you saw that the team members on their official telegram group are not really active to post the progress of the projects, it can be one of the signs of scam projects. Moreover, if the team members service the members there in a bad way.
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If the project team doesn't enable comments on telegram, I think the project is a scam.
They are not ready with a number of questions from community members, a lot of questions about products and a list of coins in the next exchange.
this is where the patience and professionalism of the team will be tested, so that we will find out which projects are cheating and which are not.
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In some cases, yes it is. But basically the sign that you are in scam project is they offers cheaper price with promising promises. Scammers will use the psychological approach to attract buyers. They are inconsistent, no transparency, and leave the tg for any seems valid reasons. Beware for that kind of tactics.
I recommend if you are not sure if they are scammers, much better to buy just small amount. Do not put whole of your asset in unknown project. Do not put your trust to wavering team. Be wise enough to protect your funds.
Remember:
- Clear whitepaper is a must.
- Transparency is a must.
- Consistency is a must.
- Social pages, Linkin, youtube, with daily(if possible) updates is a must.
Without the mentioned above could be a clear scam. Exit immediately and don't trust your guts if there's already a clear manifestation that you are in scam team.
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In some cases, yes it is. But basically the sign that you are in scam project is they offers cheaper price with promising promises. Scammers will use the psychological approach to attract buyers. They are inconsistent, no transparency, and leave the tg for any seems valid reasons. Beware for that kind of tactics.
I recommend if you are not sure if they are scammers, much better to buy just small amount. Do not put whole of your asset in unknown project. Do not put your trust to wavering team. Be wise enough to protect your funds.
Remember:
- Clear whitepaper is a must.
- Transparency is a must.
- Consistency is a must.
- Social pages, Linkin, youtube, with daily(if possible) updates is a must.
Without the mentioned above could be a clear scam. Exit immediately and don't trust your guts if there's already a clear manifestation that you are in scam team.
Very helpful informative my friend, thank you for your sharing with regards bounty campaign. I haven't yet earned through bounty but, i think we have the same signature there's a big possible i could pay out soon once the project succes and launch into the market.
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No I do not think so. It's just that some bounty hunters do not know how to wait and constantly spam into their official group, so they have to forbid them to write there.
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@Andruha1993 I think bounty hunters have every right to ask for their reward. When a team or rewards manager starts changing dates, changes the rules, or just doesn't respond. It is the bounty manager's duty to keep the bounty hunters informed at all times, because the bounty hunters have already done their part of the job, and if there is a problem that the bounty manager cannot solve on his own, he should talk to people and try to solve it together.
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The ban in bounty Telegram channels is not basically because they are scam in the bounty campaign I think the basic of the ban is because of so much spammers in the channels,but for that case the admins should also be able to give answer to every questions instead of banning people in the bounty channels.
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Well, it can be a red flag though it is not automatic that if a project is banning one person in their Telegram account it is already a big scam as there can also be some reasons why a person can be kicked out. In my experience, it is always on the team behind the project, usually those who do not have the credibility and most especially those who are using fake names...those are surely guaranteed factors to look for a possible scam. Right now, DeFi is still getting hotter and soon NFTs can be the talk of the town...and in due time we can see some scam projects playing on this big market.
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The existence of unclear development of the project, the team is not active in answering questions from members. And also a setback in bounty payments. I think this shows a bad project and could be a scam.
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@Arendra those are some of the first symptoms always, the really sad thing is that even so there are people who believe in this project without thinking for themselves, that is another big problem, people who believe everything they are told.
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The existence of unclear development of the project, the team is not active in answering questions from members. And also a setback in bounty payments. I think this shows a bad project and could be a scam.
True. Sometimes it is funny to read how the team (or at least telegram group admin or forum representatives) can not answer simple project related questions. Or team being rude when questioning them.
I remember asking total token supply, as whitepaper was under development (first sign, huh) and on the webpage there where no info. Admin in telegram told me "to google it"...
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The existence of unclear development of the project, the team is not active in answering questions from members. And also a setback in bounty payments. I think this shows a bad project and could be a scam.
Do such projects exist? For the last 4 months that I have been participating, I have not noticed such projects. Of course, what you say is a bad sign, but there are specific examples of such projects.
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We have to be careful when choosing a project, don't let our time and money be lost because of a fraudulent project, always be vigilant and I think the project must have a clear road map so that the team can provide good product details if the project really has a good product. real, they don't need to do that, just a fake project will do that and they will immediately get the karma from the action they did.
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Many of us had learnt some of the signs of a possible bounty projects scams, like no or poor white papers, identity of project team members etc, but I think that the biggest sign of a bounty scam is the hunters telegram ban by project team for speaking out about the coin/token distributions. I have experienced this situations severally and I think that it is the biggest sign of a bounty scam in recent times. What do you think?
^ I also very often experience events like this, for example, the ZAC token campaign, in the telegram group the developers say that the hunters have no impact on their campaigns, so they won't distribute the reward. these things were the daily diet of the hunters "lol"
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Many of us had learnt some of the signs of a possible bounty projects scams, like no or poor white papers, identity of project team members etc, but I think that the biggest sign of a bounty scam is the hunters telegram ban by project team for speaking out about the coin/token distributions. I have experienced this situations severally and I think that it is the biggest sign of a bounty scam in recent times. What do you think?
Plenty scams over on Telegram, remain vigilant always...spam becomes unbearable
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Recently, the CMT token, one of the projects running a bounty campaign on ALTS forum, also banned me from their Telegram group chat when I asked for information about the project team. Then I couldn't access their website either, and now it seems CMT is very easy to be a project scam.
Sometimes this can't claim to be a scam project, but the project team overreacted when asked about important project-related issues such as the token price, the future of the project, to Project staff, partners... It is very suspicious.
In addition we can also check out their website, documents & partners. In particular, if the project team does not appear in AMAs or crypto/blockchain events, I think we should not be interested in that project.
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In some cases, yes it is. But basically the sign that you are in scam project is they offers cheaper price with promising promises. Scammers will use the psychological approach to attract buyers. They are inconsistent, no transparency, and leave the tg for any seems valid reasons. Beware for that kind of tactics.
I recommend if you are not sure if they are scammers, much better to buy just small amount. Do not put whole of your asset in unknown project. Do not put your trust to wavering team. Be wise enough to protect your funds.
Remember:
- Clear whitepaper is a must.
- Transparency is a must.
- Consistency is a must.
- Social pages, Linkin, youtube, with daily(if possible) updates is a must.
Without the mentioned above could be a clear scam. Exit immediately and don't trust your guts if there's already a clear manifestation that you are in scam team.
Thank you very much for the information. I added this to my notes. From this topic, I also learned a little new for myself
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I still haven't figured out what the scam is. That you were banned from the main telegram group for asking about bounty distribution? In any project, it is said that you can not talk about bounty, in the main chat of the project. Why didn't you write down which company you were involved in and which chat you were banned from?
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The main thing to pay attention is to understand whether a blockchain is needed in this project. If project can do perfectly well without blockchain, then this project is usually doomed to failure.
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Well, bounty scam is always everywhere whatever we want to avoid. Sometimes, they really have a very interesting and great package of the bounty, but it turns into scams. I personally will only follow the trusted BM and also project that is really valuable, making good research on it and try not to be interested in very promising rewards.
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Actually we can minimize getting caught up in a scam Bounty campaign by studying the project from the start, but this is not an easy job. Because often we see a good project at the beginning but in the end a scam behind. So we have to be able to accept whatever happens with the Bounty project that we are participating in, but of course our hope is that we get a suitable payment.
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Hunters are not allowed to ask for tokens in the core group, is not that there has always been a rule from me, I know the bounty has also read the rules,
however If the project team does not enable comments on telegram, I think the project is a scam. I think
They are not ready with lots of questions from community members, lots of questions about products and a list of coins in the next exchange.
this is where the patience and professionalism of the team will be tested, so that we will know which projects are cheating
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Good topic Bro, but banning hunters from the main telegram group is not the sign that they are scam. Majority of bounties has a rules that hunters must not ask questions in the main group specifically if the question is about for hunters. If there is a rule, then they have the right to ban hunters asking question about bounty concern. However, if hunters asked question not related to bounties. Instead related to the project team and the platform. It is about time to doubt them and leave the group is there is a strong sign of scam.
Sometimes hunters asking on main groups are forced. What do you expect a bounty hunter to do when the bounty manager ignores him and even sending pms to the project team are also ignored. Desperate times calls for desperate measures. I have been a victim severally
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Many of us had learnt some of the signs of a possible bounty projects scams, like no or poor white papers, identity of project team members etc, but I think that the biggest sign of a bounty scam is the hunters telegram ban by project team for speaking out about the coin/token distributions. I have experienced this situations severally and I think that it is the biggest sign of a bounty scam in recent times. What do you think?
I totally agree with you, if they don't see themselves as scammers, why will a bounty hunter that have helped you to promote your project cannot asked a genuine question with regards to what they don't understand about the bounty program or needs some clarification on? I think bounty hunters should be mindful of bounties where Instructions like "YOU WILL BE BAN IF YOU ASK SUCH AND SUCH QUESTION" are the instructions in their telegram forum.
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I agree with you @Anonylz, but sometimes scammers change the rules quickly with little time for people to react. I have seen it many times, the last time I saw a change in the rules of a channel was only two days ago, and now the channel despite having many users is practically silent. Changing the rules is another red flag.
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I don't think banning of members that speaks about distribution is a sign of bounty scam. Didn't they read the general rules that asking a questions about the bounty in the official channel this can lead them to ban. Most of the bounties has this rules so it's not a sign of scam to me. Research the project is only way that we can determined if the project is a scam or legit.
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Most noticeable is the distribution time, where usually the scam bounty is confirmed will not pay and then the team will just disappear.
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It's a pity many hunters don't bother to research about a project before embarking on their promotion a simple Google search will reveal a lot of information about that project those without a whitepaper is a sign for hunters to keep off while the nonchalant behavior of the admin on telegram is also good to determine the legitimacy of the campaign above all DYOR is the key to avoiding a bounty scam
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@gabbie2010 what you just said is what we've been talking about for weeks in other threads. People do not read (most of them) the rules or regulations of rewards, they do not know what to do or where to do it, they do not worry about spending a few hours of their time to verify if a project is legitimate or not, then when they get scammed or just kicked out of the bounties, they complain, and it's just their fault.
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though we cant say that sometime, because their some community moderator that are very strict and they dont like repitition, but you might be right also.
some project gives unnecessary to receive rules to receive reward just clipx.
closing of telegram group. and the likes
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Recently there was an unpleasant precedent (I don't remember the name of the project, the management was carried out by Bounty Detective) so there the project made a Swap, initially the payment was made in old coins, and after the bounty the pool decreased by 100 times it seems. Total: investors were not affected, but the hunters were deceived. It seems Bounty Detective was never able to get what they(we) needed from those scammers.
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Most noticeable is the distribution time, where usually the scam bounty is confirmed will not pay and then the team will just disappear.
I hear you and I recently was a victim of one of such scan. The bounty managers actually distributed the first batch of the bounty and later ask bounty hunters to even download their app for the second distribution but that never came and the bounty manager has refused to respond to any message till date.
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@GREENch85 I saw what you say a few days ago, I saw it on Telegram. What has happened to that project and its team is another example of human greed, they saw that the token would reach a good price and they used the excuse of the swap to not send the new tokens and deceive everyone. You can report that project on every site you can, including Coinmarketcap.
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Recently there was an unpleasant precedent (I don't remember the name of the project, the management was carried out by Bounty Detective) so there the project made a Swap, initially the payment was made in old coins, and after the bounty the pool decreased by 100 times it seems. Total: investors were not affected, but the hunters were deceived. It seems Bounty Detective was never able to get what they(we) needed from those scammers.
Hey mate you indicated bintex futures project which already scammed with bounty hunters provided old tokens which have no value.
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Recently there was an unpleasant precedent (I don't remember the name of the project, the management was carried out by Bounty Detective) so there the project made a Swap, initially the payment was made in old coins, and after the bounty the pool decreased by 100 times it seems. Total: investors were not affected, but the hunters were deceived. It seems Bounty Detective was never able to get what they(we) needed from those scammers.
Even when the tokens are in the hands of a reliable bounty manager, this does not guarantee that the tokens will not be swapped. I think it is necessary in every possible way to put a stick in the wheels of this project, and not to pass by. So that next time the projects do not think to deceive the bounty hunters.
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From my little knowledge, for the banning of bounty participants from the project's telegram group isn't the sign of scam, because every project has some rules and regulations which is only for their project if the bounty hunters can break it then he or she will banned from the telegram group because team can't suffer the once mistakes of their telegram group.
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Recently there was an unpleasant precedent (I don't remember the name of the project, the management was carried out by Bounty Detective) so there the project made a Swap, initially the payment was made in old coins, and after the bounty the pool decreased by 100 times it seems. Total: investors were not affected, but the hunters were deceived. It seems Bounty Detective was never able to get what they(we) needed from those scammers.
Even when the tokens are in the hands of a reliable bounty manager, this does not guarantee that the tokens will not be swapped. I think it is necessary in every possible way to put a stick in the wheels of this project, and not to pass by. So that next time the projects do not think to deceive the bounty hunters.
There is no hope for solidarity and mutual assistance in the bounty hunter community. As the practice of the last few years shows, everyone here is for himself.
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@GREENch85 I do not agree with you in what you say. I have personally warned some users here about the mistakes they have made while participating in a bounty, I do not say it so that you think that I am better than others, I am saying this because we should help each other whenever we can.
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Just look at the team information by googling. If you don't get enough information about them, then it is a big sign of a scam bounty and project. The information related to team member identities must be one of the focuses to see the trust of a bounty or a crypto project, mate.
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If you don't get enough information about them, then it is a big sign of a scam bounty and project.
Yeah, it can be a sign of scam bounty or project but it is not always like that. Sometimes you need more effort to know the information about a team member of the crypto project because they are not famous people. Then, we need other things to consider whether it is a scam or not, check also the information of the project in detail.
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always many scams there.
If it is about the baned in telegram group because of asking about distributions I think that it will depend on the project itself. Sometimes, there have been announcements about the distribution time or reasons why they are delaying the distribution. But if every second a member or similar members ask about the distribution with dirty words, I am sure that they re deserved to be baned.
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The most significant sign of scams projects
Inactive team management/ community
Pligrism whitepaper
No definite roadmap
Fake promise
No ieo arrangements
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Bounty is scammed it's usually because of their team they can't campaign properly many of the groups in the group scam if there is no match between the groups and can not campaign properly many bounty hunters are affected. But now the bounties are improving but not all.
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Yes i agree with you in this regard. Some telegram channel restrict user but why? What is the reason? I think those team are not keep their word they are the scammer. Now bull run on going scammers are trying to scam in this time because investor are investing huge money. If they become success then will get huge money.
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The most significant sign of scams projects
Inactive team management/ community
Pligrism whitepaper
No definite roadmap
Fake promise
No ieo arrangements
I agree with your opinions, As you said bounty scam has significant sign. inactive management team, plagiarism white paper, not active social media account. And take promise. I think Awe must be careful If we see the bounty project
Clearly it is scam project
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one must also look at social networking sites. The fact is that they are on Facebook, not Twitter or other pages on social networks at all, and do not provide information to the community about the work of the team on the project. In addition, Telegram groups in most cases are bought initially with a large number of subscribers. Although it happens that a group is created from scratch, no one is interested in it.
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@GREENch85 I do not agree with you in what you say. I have personally warned some users here about the mistakes they have made while participating in a bounty, I do not say it so that you think that I am better than others, I am saying this because we should help each other whenever we can.
I'm talking about solidarity, and the fact that bounty hunters are not ready to unite and start anti-PR and defending their interests. 98% forget about the failures and move on.But I would be interested to hear about your experience. what happened to achieve, etc. Maybe we can take part of your experiments here on the forum if there is another precedent
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What's should we do mate ? A lots of bounty campaigns are available in the cryptocurrencies market but very different to understand. Many reputed bounties campaigns Manager managed scams bounty campaigns.
Yes, very many of these bounty projects are not sincere and it is quite unfortunate that hunters faces this issue, I just hope that scam bounties can be eliminated some day. However, I think that if we participate in any bounty that return to be in a fraudulent or scam of projects, we can only but move in our life because we may not research the best campaign, seeing that they are very numerous bounties but few are legit this days.
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From my personal experience, project or bounty manager banning bounty campaign participants on their telegram channel or group is not necessarily an indicator that the project it self is a scam, there are many participants that like asking unnecessary questions and many even like breaking the rules of the group or channel, so when this kind of people are banned from the group, it does not mean the project or bounty is a scam, I have participated in a bounty campaign where I got banned in the group chat, but later got my payment and sold for some money
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Another mistake that scammers make a lot is partially copying another project's white paper. On many occasions that has been the key point to hunt them down and mark them negatively, also the banning of users as indicated by the OP, the silence of moderators and administrators, excuses of any kind, half truths, "soon" answers...
The silence part is the most obvious. Also the white paper plagiarism, little or no social media presence, absent or fake project team, and these days, fake partnerships, are all indicators of the actions of bad actors
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You are right @Jaephoenix, especially in fake partnerships, but fortunately that is something easy to discover, since when they use that tactic they usually do it with big names in the crypto sphere, and it is easy to know if it is true or not. The latest scams in which they did something similar were very quickly unmasked by Binance, scammers claimed their project would be on Binance in a few days.
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i dont bothery self by looking for scam or trusted bounties,i just follow trusted bounty managers and they will do the job for me because they have more experiance with bounties , good solution
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i dont bothery self by looking for scam or trusted bounties,i just follow trusted bounty managers and they will do the job for me because they have more experiance with bounties , good solution
Trusted managers are also cheated. Recently faced with another type of fraud. The bounty detective recently led a bounty campaign for the Bintex Futures project and the team previously sent them their BNTX tokens as escrow. Therefore, the Bounty detective wrote in his bounty thread that they guarantee the receipt of tokens to the bounty hunters after the work is done. Three months have passed, we do not see any tokens. It turns out that the Bintex Futures team turned out to be scammers, they changed their tokens, and the sent ones turned out to be useless and without any price. Now the bounty detective in the telegram says that the Bintex Futures team is joking about them and in every possible way avoids sending them their changed tokens. I have not heard of such a scam even with an escrow.
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i dont bothery self by looking for scam or trusted bounties,i just follow trusted bounty managers and they will do the job for me because they have more experiance with bounties , good solution
Trusted managers are also cheated. Recently faced with another type of fraud. The bounty detective recently led a bounty campaign for the Bintex Futures project and the team previously sent them their BNTX tokens as escrow. Therefore, the Bounty detective wrote in his bounty thread that they guarantee the receipt of tokens to the bounty hunters after the work is done. Three months have passed, we do not see any tokens. It turns out that the Bintex Futures team turned out to be scammers, they changed their tokens, and the sent ones turned out to be useless and without any price. Now the bounty detective in the telegram says that the Bintex Futures team is joking about them and in every possible way avoids sending them their changed tokens. I have not heard of such a scam even with an escrow.
Bintex Futures are scammers, the bounty pool was very small in my opinion and it shouldn't be a problem for them to pay a well-deserved reward.
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@yurez I have read about the Bintex problem. Cases like this show us that no one is safe from scammers, not even bounty managers, what those affected can do is report them in all possible places, especially in Coinmarketcap, so that the Bintex team has enough problems and have to reconsider the payment.
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Yes, very often in recent companies or bounty managers deceive us not to pay rewards or reduce them very much, you need something to combat this
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We cannot do anything with companies that deceive us. Each time the campaigns have a different face and unfortunately, it is impossible to track this down. And unscrupulous managers do not really care what and who thinks or says about them. They do what they want and nothing happens to them for it. I simply do not participate in the companies of such managers. I work only with those I trust.
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@Galley I think otherwise we can do something against those teams that scam the bounty hunters. We can (and should) report them everywhere and tell people what they have done so they don't do it again. I know it is not a 100% effective method, but it is better than doing nothing.
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We cannot do anything with companies that deceive us. Each time the campaigns have a different face and unfortunately, it is impossible to track this down. And unscrupulous managers do not really care what and who thinks or says about them. They do what they want and nothing happens to them for it. I simply do not participate in the companies of such managers. I work only with those I trust.
And how did you create such a trust list? Do you come from your own experience?
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@Galley I think otherwise we can do something against those teams that scam the bounty hunters. We can (and should) report them everywhere and tell people what they have done so they don't do it again. I know it is not a 100% effective method, but it is better than doing nothing.
Some will just pass by, not in the first one.These are whiners who are ready that they will wipe their feet on them. And there are fighters who will write articles, create groups and invite people there to harm the reputation of the company. I think that's the only way to fight. If there is a lot of haight around, then people will bypass the company.
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I am very disappointed if the telegram group admin locks the chat, they don't know that the project is successful because they have a lot of community members and the coins they create can be used by users, I agree if the developers lock the telegram channel then the project is a Fraud project.
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...but I think that the biggest sign of a bounty scam is the hunters telegram ban by project team for speaking out about the coin/token distributions. ..
I don't think this is. The biggest scam is when the ICO is ended and they disappeared, their social media, telegram, and anything about the project are disappeared. This is truly SCAM.
But about banned from telegram group because of asking for the distribution, I think that the team has warned them or even they have given the announcement about the distributions, asking more and more commonly will be banned because there has been enough ann to distribute
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Yes, very often in recent companies or bounty managers deceive us not to pay rewards or reduce them very much, you need something to combat this
Hi mate, you have to think before blame any bounty manager, because Bounty managers are our representatives. They don't decrease bounty budget, they decrease after they receive direction or order from the team. Maximum times, team cheat with bounty hunters lie Digital Bits(XDB) cheated with Bounty hunters although BM tried his best.
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The Recently there was an unpleasant precedent (I don't remember the name of the project, the management was carried out by Bounty Detective) so there the project made a Swap, initially the payment was made in old coins, and after the bounty the pool decreased by 100 times it seems. Total: investors were not affected, but the hunters were deceived. It seems Bounty Detective was never able to get what they(we) needed from those scammers this project.
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I agree with this lot of a big sign are bounty scam in recent time and I want to settled this kind of bounty campaign can stopped in the blockchain to avoid the image of altcoins will not shutdown right away because of illegal scammers joining in the projects campaign.
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Every Bounty hunter at some point in time will experience promoting and doing tasks for a poorly run or a scam projects. And that has already been hitting a new heights in recent times. The most important thing I feel every bounty hunter should do firstly is to belong to a progressive bounty community. Then, for each project to be taken on, in-depth research should be careful conducted.
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I think it will be when we really don't accept the coins as rewards when the project doesn't even list their coin on exchanges, and also when all sources of the projects are missed and we cannot find out about them anymore That is so sad to know it but it is too common
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The most important thing I feel every bounty hunter should do firstly is to belong to a progressive bounty community. Then, for each project to be taken on, in-depth research should be careful conducted.
I agree to that buddy, to become part in big tg hunter community is a good way to know the potential bounties. Then research the project is another way to determine the team and the project. However, still not guarantee the 100% success at the end of the campaign.
Research is good. The beginning is good. But the end matters the most. Ending is the season to see the clearer view to become part in the project success. In some case even the project hit the amplitude and yet the team can decide to pay us or not. There's a lot of risks for hunters with regards to good bounty, real team, and profitable payment.
Nevertheless, win or lose that's should not be the reason to stop and give up our support in the forum. Let us always be active and post to rank up in the perfect time. ;)
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I think it will be when we really don't accept the coins as rewards when the project doesn't even list their coin on exchanges, and also when all sources of the projects are missed and we cannot find out about them anymore That is so sad to know it but it is too common
it seems that this has become a common thing, it is comedicable for certain people who are indeed looking to profit from something that has been done, even as best as possible. but destroyed with unsympathetic intent. we see that this has become a permanent job and it is very difficult to prevent it.
there is no preventive action from all who may have the authority so that it does not happen again and again.
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but I think that the biggest sign of a bounty scam is the hunters telegram ban by project team for speaking out about the coin/token distributions. I have experienced this situations severally and I think that it is the biggest sign of a bounty scam in recent times. What do you think?
Of course, this is the biggest sign! But unfortunately, it always happens after we completed all the bounty tasks like sharing their projects on our social media accounts which is bad because we were doing a free job ;D
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In my opinion, the rewards that are not distributed, the reward amounts reduced by swap are all frauds.
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@madenci_34 teams that do that are clearly a scam, but they don't do it out of fear that the bounty hunters will sell, they do it so they can sell it themselves, which is a sign of greed. After they do it, they say 100 excuses and lies to cover their backs or they just don't say anything, so they deserve to be reported on all possible sites.
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In my opinion, the rewards that are not distributed, the reward amounts reduced by swap are all frauds.
what you say is one of the few ways an irresponsible offender seeks to benefit himself and his co-workers. they've made things like this a normal job. because there is no correction from all institutions that have the authority to reduce these bad habits.
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The first sign that a bounty scam is a change in the conditions for a bounty, verification before the accrual of tokens. After distribution, all sorts of swaps are carried out and, as a result, on the wallet of tokens for 1-2 dollars.
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I really don't think so. This is only probably misunderstanding or even breaking the rules of the group.
The biggest scam is that the investment scam. Many newbies are scammed from the group or channel or YouTUbe that they offer investment wth very big profits. Do you know how much money that commonly newbies offer? There is so much money and they are scammed. This is much more fear than the case of being kicked from a bounty group
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Every bounty's official telegram channel is seriously being restricted to bounty hunters from making comments or post about the projects campaign concerning payments of rewards, and that is seriously not being tolerated from any campaign managers or group admin. And at most times, it is stated. I have observed one concerning a project that was a scam, there's was deleting their telegram bounty group, channel and official telegram group. With this action, it was made clear that they are completely scam, but what makes it funny was their softcap and hardcap where successfully archived smoothly.
Also, when the group admins are no more active, or no reply from the main team members of the project, then things fishy are going on.
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A lots of scamming cryptocurrencies projects around us but all cryptocurrencies projects don't easy to identify. But pligrism whitepaper, fake team management, community and fake promise of roadmap the best sign of scams projects.
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...but I think that the biggest sign of a bounty scam is the hunters telegram ban by project team for speaking out about the coin/token distributions. ..
I don't think this is. The biggest scam is when the ICO is ended and they disappeared, their social media, telegram, and anything about the project are disappeared. This is truly SCAM.
But about banned from telegram group because of asking for the distribution, I think that the team has warned them or even they have given the announcement about the distributions, asking more and more commonly will be banned because there has been enough ann to distribute
In the described case, the scammers disappear and the problems are forgotten after a while. However, the case of Bintex Futures is quite unique. Here the scammers stayed, their BNTX cryptocurrency is even growing in value and they even openly scoff at the bounty manager they hired and everyone who participated in these companies. I think that such a case should not be left. We need to make sure that information about Bintex Futures as scammers is everywhere and no one wants to cooperate with them.
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Bintex Futures reminds me of the Miracle Tele project when, due to fraudulent actions, the teams turned a promising project into a scam, and the project manager disappeared with the money. Something similar may be here.
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Bintex Futures reminds me of the Miracle Tele project when, due to fraudulent actions, the teams turned a promising project into a scam, and the project manager disappeared with the money. Something similar may be here.
Miracle Tele at least paid the participants of the Bounty Campaign, and Bintex Futures may never pay. Every day I go to coingco.com/en/coins/bintex-futures and clashing a finger down.
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Bintex Futures reminds me of the Miracle Tele project when, due to fraudulent actions, the teams turned a promising project into a scam, and the project manager disappeared with the money. Something similar may be here.
Miracle Tele at least paid the participants of the Bounty Campaign, and Bintex Futures may never pay. Every day I go to coingco.com/en/coins/bintex-futures and clashing a finger down.
Of course, Merakle Tele has practically died today, but we not only received our reward, but also had the opportunity to receive dividends for a certain period and withdraw them to our wallet. At least I was able to recover my loss.
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Sometimes the person or people running the scams are the same people, I think it was in 2018 when several cases carried out by the same group of people in 2 or 3 different projects were discovered. There were even people who might have access to their phone numbers, but I don't know what happened, so when we see scams, don't be surprised that they are organized teams.
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Always look at the team. That is the surest way to check out a suspicious project. Some teams are transparent on their activities and roadmap, and the more rugpull tending projects tend to be 'darkish' in their dealings and answering questions
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Always look at the team. That is the surest way to check out a suspicious project. Some teams are transparent on their activities and roadmap, and the more rugpull tending projects tend to be 'darkish' in their dealings and answering questions
Yes, actually the project team profile and identity is a crucial area in getting to know if a bounty project is genuine, but there are some of these projects team that had craftily hide their true identity and profile to device participants. Some of these hidden strategy from certain bounty campaign has been identity by some few smart hunters/investors, however, the scammers still can find their ways to launch fake campaigns. We learn everyday and there are still chances for hunters and investors to improve their searches on getting good projects. Thanks.
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I agree with you. Many still constantly ignore the messages of the bounty hunters and this is very sad (
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At the moment the campaign for Bounty projects is being successfully completed. The team of more projects is not doing any kind of fraud. Currently most of the project teams work in a very honest way. So projects are much more successful flowers. So I think the bounty is happening the most at the moment. Because the condition of the currency market is much better.
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Always look at the team. That is the surest way to check out a suspicious project. Some teams are transparent on their activities and roadmap, and the more rugpull tending projects tend to be 'darkish' in their dealings and answering questions
Of course, team is the main factor for project successful. We should check profile and identity of their team. I see many projects have failed, because didn't have good team and several scam project with scam people.
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@banser I partly agree with what you say, but on occasion we have also seen verified teams (all members) end up becoming scammers. Some don't mind showing their faces and names to end up scamming people, taking investor funds and leaving the bounty hunters without their reward.
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Though will not take banning hunter from telegram group as a sign of scam, that doesnt mean will accept it, because some hunters are naughty sometimes, but what of if the telegram group is muted for anybody to write their.
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Hunters can get banned for multiple reasons. Your reason(getting banned for complaining about distribution) is a grey area. The project team can say the hunter broke a rule by complaining in the main group, which is a well known bounty rule. But sometimes the project team and bounty manager do not cover themselves in glory with the way they field hunter questions. Some completely ignore the hunters, without explanation
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You made alot of good points there mate, but I would have to disagree with you on the part that when bounty hunters get banned it means the project is a scam, sometimes those bounty hunters that get banned go against the rules of that Telegram group, most times they go there to talk about price of the coin which isn't allowed or samtry to fud just because the project delayed in payment or something,other than that I agree with everything you stated there.
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In my opinion, the rewards that are not distributed, the reward amounts reduced by swap are all frauds.
I would also classify such actions of new project teams as fraudulent. Recently, I have seen that many teams delay not only the payment of their tokens to wallets, but even the accrual of the number of earned tokens in the tables. Until now, I have not received tokens from Plastic Finance projects, although I have already passed the previously unspecified KYC, SHREW, SPASEK, Xircus. How to evaluate the team of these projects if there have been no payments for many months?
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Many of us had learnt some of the signs of a possible bounty projects scams, like no or poor white papers, identity of project team members etc, but I think that the biggest sign of a bounty scam is the hunters telegram ban by project team for speaking out about the coin/token distributions. I have experienced this situations severally and I think that it is the biggest sign of a bounty scam in recent times. What do you think?
of course, we must be careful, there are many bounty scams Although bounty manager is reputated, but the team project is scam.
We all here heard about what this bounty. After their project is successful, they didn't pay as their promise
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What do you think about coins on Hotbit?
HALF just started bounty air-drop event right now.
And PancakeGames on Uniswap is doing bounty event too.
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I agree with you. Because the big scandals happen in the current bounty projects. Because there are a lot of scandalous projects. If you ask about the payment of those who are banned in the telegram.They are one of the scandalous projects. I think everyone should be aware. Before working on or investing in any project must be properly verified.
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I agree with you. Because the big scandals happen in the current bounty projects. Because there are a lot of scandalous projects. If you ask about the payment of those who are banned in the telegram.They are one of the scandalous projects. I think everyone should be aware. Before working on or investing in any project must be properly verified.
It is very difficult to choose a good project for work and earning money. After all, many colorful promises hide deceivers. With experience, it becomes easier to determine a quality project, but this does not guarantee that you will be paid money upon its completion.
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Many of us had learnt some of the signs of a possible bounty projects scams, like no or poor white papers, identity of project team members etc, but I think that the biggest sign of a bounty scam is the hunters telegram ban by project team for speaking out about the coin/token distributions. I have experienced this situations severally and I think that it is the biggest sign of a bounty scam in recent times. What do you think?
Well IMO. that's only a few signs, you forget to include the poor bounty template and design and many others, but honestly speaking it is pretty hard to determine if the project is a scam or not because most of the bounty projects nowadays are all the same, and preferably complete in all sorts of information including whitepapers and list of the team members.
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Hunters can get banned for multiple reasons. Your reason(getting banned for complaining about distribution) is a grey area. The project team can say the hunter broke a rule by complaining in the main group, which is a well known bounty rule. But sometimes the project team and bounty manager do not cover themselves in glory with the way they field hunter questions. Some completely ignore the hunters, without explanation
There are a lot of things to consider before to come up into conclusion that may result to banning or maybe something necessary to change the budget allocation due to the fact that hunters has a multiple entries.
With regards to managerial aspect, we cannot verdict the accurate opinion since we deal in this decentralized world. It means managers may not or maybe the reason behind all of the uncertainties. However, it may happen in vice versa.
The managers may be the channel why the project great fully succeeded with the help of hunters.
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To me, one of the red flags of a bounty scam is the inactivity or poor social media presence of a project. Most of the time, they are in their way out. I just usually stop the bounty and observe
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To me, one of the red flags of a bounty scam is the inactivity or poor social media presence of a project. Most of the time, they are in their way out. I just usually stop the bounty and observe
indeed one form of prevention that you might be able to do, but not infrequently they complete all activities through social media and others and even packaged well.
but in the end it also does not guarantee that they will not cheat, because the opportunity is always there and they continue to do because there is no movement to give them a deterrent and will not do it again.
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I think even the team ban you from their telegram it is not bug deal to assume they are scam. Maybe sometime if you ask relevant question about team details and whitepaper then they cannot answer instead they kicked you out from their group. It is possible they are scammers and does not want to tell the truth.
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Many of us had learnt some of the signs of a possible bounty projects scams, like no or poor white papers, identity of project team members etc, but I think that the biggest sign of a bounty scam is the hunters telegram ban by project team for speaking out about the coin/token distributions. I have experienced this situations severally and I think that it is the biggest sign of a bounty scam in recent times. What do you think?
Bounty scam, we must distinguish about the team of project or the team of manager.
Because I have joined bounty, the project is successful, the team of manager is reputated, but the project didn't pay the rewards.
Bounty manager is still exist until now, they are good team.
The team project is scammer
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In inclusion to these signs, there is howber a probability that the project will not remain capable of to acquire the required quantity of money through the token sale and will come back whole the controlled capitals to investors, good , bounty hunters will be left hand with negative.
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I do not at all think that the ban on talking about rewards and, in general, about the bounty campaign in the main group is something suspicious. In the conditions, everything is clearly stipulated, where and what to ask. For questions, there is a bounty campaign chat. The organizers do not want to turn the chat about the project, roughly speaking, into a dump. Everyone knows perfectly well that there is a bounty chat, and what questions are constantly asked there. Who might like it, I think I shouldn't answer.
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I do not at all think that the ban on talking about rewards and, in general, about the bounty campaign in the main group is something suspicious. In the conditions, everything is clearly stipulated, where and what to ask. For questions, there is a bounty campaign chat. The organizers do not want to turn the chat about the project, roughly speaking, into a dump. Everyone knows perfectly well that there is a bounty chat, and what questions are constantly asked there. Who might like it, I think I shouldn't answer.
I completely agree with you. It is very annoying to see how the main group of a project is filled with users always asking the same thing. When airdrop? when distribution? when...?. These things cause potential investors to lose credibility when they see that there is no "seriousness." Users who do those things should be penalized in some way, like receiving only 50% of the reward or receiving nothing, unfortunately I think that's the only way they would learn to ask questions in the appropriate place.
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Many of us had learnt some of the signs of a possible bounty projects scams, like no or poor white papers, identity of project team members etc, but I think that the biggest sign of a bounty scam is the hunters telegram ban by project team for speaking out about the coin/token distributions. I have experienced this situations severally and I think that it is the biggest sign of a bounty scam in recent times. What do you think?
Bounty scam, It's always be there.
We must be careful to join bounty campaign, see the bounty manager, reputatee BM or new BM.
Learn their projects, white paper, roadmap and the man behind the project.
If you joined scam bounty, It's waste of time.
That's really annoying.
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I think even the team ban you from their telegram it is not bug deal to assume they are scam. Maybe sometime if you ask relevant question about team details and whitepaper then they cannot answer instead they kicked you out from their group. It is possible they are scammers and does not want to tell the truth.
If the team didn't answer your question, They are scammer. As member we have right to ask about white papeer nad detail thier project.
Sometime they ban several member that always ask several main question.
Follow their social media account, you will get clue about their project adn team.
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I think even the team ban you from their telegram it is not bug deal to assume they are scam. Maybe sometime if you ask relevant question about team details and whitepaper then they cannot answer instead they kicked you out from their group. It is possible they are scammers and does not want to tell the truth.
If the team didn't answer your question, They are scammer. As member we have right to ask about white papeer nad detail thier project.
Sometime they ban several member that always ask several main question.
Follow their social media account, you will get clue about their project adn team.
Of course that's one way to find out what's going on from their team, but now they also know that and they can anticipate what might happen. we really shouldn't be one step behind them, because they can do everything perfectly and without gaps.
all things can be done but actually more perfect is with protection from all colleagues who if indeed already know that this is a scam project, because it is seen from the team involved or maybe there is an accurate analysis. to immediately inform all participants of this matter so that they do not take the opportunity to gain unscrupulous profits.
With all playing a role, it is certain that gradually all those who cheat will at least reduce, because before it develops, interventions have been carried out so that no one supports it. the problem is that there is no desire from those who know to be able to carry out the intervention.
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In general, I try not to ask about the payment of tokens when I participate in bounty companies, because usually bounty managers themselves say when there will be payment of tokens for participation in bounty program, and of course there have always been a lot of scam projects which making bounty companies and unfortunately nothing has changed to date.
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Thank you for giving the information to identify the bounty scam sign. I want to tell you that I think that the biggest scam is the telegram. Telegram is full of scammers. I do not use the telegram because I have been scammed too many times from this bull shit. What do you think?
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In general, I try not to ask about the payment of tokens when I participate in bounty companies, because usually bounty managers themselves say when there will be payment of tokens for participation in bounty program, and of course there have always been a lot of scam projects which making bounty companies and unfortunately nothing has changed to date.
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In order not to get into a fraudulent project, you need to study it competently before joining. Communication on the forum always helps me to understand how reliable the project is, as well as its developers. But you can't be one hundred percent sure, so sometimes my work in the project remains unpaid, but I get experience.
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Thank you for giving the information to identify the bounty scam sign. I want to tell you that I think that the biggest scam is the telegram. Telegram is full of scammers. I do not use the telegram because I have been scammed too many times from this bull shit. What do you think?
Telegram is just one more tool among the many that scammers use, it is not responsible for anything, such as Twitter or any other application or social network of the many existing ones. No matter what tools we use, chats, forums or social networks, we must always be vigilant, because there are always scammers willing to steal our funds and a mistake can cost us a lot. We do not have to believe, we must verify absolutely everything.
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It's just that it all depends on the scammer's hummingbird. If some are very simple, then they certainly won't work too hard either on the website or on the team's portfolio. For hamsters, it's okay. And if a well-prepared scam, then nothing will help, everything is so will be done that you will never guess that this is a scam.
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It's just that it all depends on the scammer's hummingbird. If some are very simple, then they certainly won't work too hard either on the website or on the team's portfolio. For hamsters, it's okay. And if a well-prepared scam, then nothing will help, everything is so will be done that you will never guess that this is a scam.
Yeah, It's really difficult to guess the scammers. But we can anticipate , by learning their white paper, man behind the project and always follow their social media.
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Many of us had learnt some of the signs of a possible bounty projects scams, like no or poor white papers, identity of project team members etc, but I think that the biggest sign of a bounty scam is the hunters telegram ban by project team for speaking out about the coin/token distributions. I have experienced this situations severally and I think that it is the biggest sign of a bounty scam in recent times. What do you think?
I agree with your opinion above.
I think there are several sign the scam project.
As you said poor white paper and activities their team at Tele group.
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I don't think banning of members that speaks about distribution is a sign of bounty scam. Didn't they read the general rules that asking a questions about the bounty in the official channel this can lead them to ban. Most of the bounties has this rules so it's not a sign of scam to me. Research the project is only way that we can determined if the project is a scam or legit.
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The forum is currently hosting a two-week NFTanks subscription campaign. The second week is already ending, and then yesterday the manager of the subscription campaign in the telegram group fixed the message that this project was fraudulent and advised the bounty hunters not to continue working. In the morning, he wrote that he had contacted the project team and that there was an opportunity to finish what he had started. At the same time, he added that he was not sure of anything, and perhaps everything would be fine. If managers are not sure whether the team will cheat us, then how can we figure it out. Recently, teams sometimes simply refuse to fulfill the conditions of bounty campaigns.
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The forum is currently hosting a two-week NFTanks subscription campaign. The second week is already ending, and then yesterday the manager of the subscription campaign in the telegram group fixed the message that this project was fraudulent and advised the bounty hunters not to continue working. In the morning, he wrote that he had contacted the project team and that there was an opportunity to finish what he had started. At the same time, he added that he was not sure of anything, and perhaps everything would be fine. If managers are not sure whether the team will cheat us, then how can we figure it out. Recently, teams sometimes simply refuse to fulfill the conditions of bounty campaigns.
Bounty managers are human, just like you and me, they can't see into the future. No matter how good a bounty manager's job is (and Yahoo is one of the best), the final decision to pay or not pay is up to the team, be it a scam project or a last minute team decision. There are times when bounty managers do nothing if participants are not paid, but this is not one of those cases.
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The forum is currently hosting a two-week NFTanks subscription campaign. The second week is already ending, and then yesterday the manager of the subscription campaign in the telegram group fixed the message that this project was fraudulent and advised the bounty hunters not to continue working. In the morning, he wrote that he had contacted the project team and that there was an opportunity to finish what he had started. At the same time, he added that he was not sure of anything, and perhaps everything would be fine. If managers are not sure whether the team will cheat us, then how can we figure it out. Recently, teams sometimes simply refuse to fulfill the conditions of bounty campaigns.
Bounty managers are human, just like you and me, they can't see into the future. No matter how good a bounty manager's job is (and Yahoo is one of the best), the final decision to pay or not pay is up to the team, be it a scam project or a last minute team decision. There are times when bounty managers do nothing if participants are not paid, but this is not one of those cases.
These are the situations that show what a bounty company manager is. Those who do not care what and how will happen to the campaign will simply not react to changes in the situation, and will not fight for those who believed them. And Yahoo is an indicator of the quality and integrity of the company. Here's an example to follow.
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Many of us had learnt some of the signs of a possible bounty projects scams, like no or poor white papers, identity of project team members etc, but I think that the biggest sign of a bounty scam is the hunters telegram ban by project team for speaking out about the coin/token distributions. I have experienced this situations severally and I think that it is the biggest sign of a bounty scam in recent times. What do you think?
It's always be classic problem, several time we have discussed about how to detect bounty scam. But I think It's really difficult.
When the projects are quiet, we will join the bounty project soon, without learn white paper, the team , and project.
Because several bounties are limited. We must join quickly.
It's dilemma. I think
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You need to start from the managers of the company, but there are also managers who initially had bad bounties, but then they shot very well. So now it is very difficult to guess which project will be fired from the manager.
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If only bounty hunters can stick together and pick projects that they will market or work on. i think all these mess will stop. it is highly recommended for hunters to know bounty mangers that can help them or those that are lazy and after their own pocket. i believed that some projects and bounty managers made agreement. they will pay the manager and claim that they have not made any payment. hunters will always move on.
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If only bounty hunters can stick together and pick projects that they will market or work on. i think all these mess will stop. it is highly recommended for hunters to know bounty mangers that can help them or those that are lazy and after their own pocket. i believed that some projects and bounty managers made agreement. they will pay the manager and claim that they have not made any payment. hunters will always move on.
It is very important to choose the project #DevelopmentTeam that can guarantee the reliability of payments in the future for the work done. Many developers have already done high-quality projects that have proved themselves and continue their work. A lot of participants are immediately declared in such projects, since there is a guaranteed prospect in them.
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Many of us had learnt some of the signs of a possible bounty projects scams, like no or poor white papers, identity of project team members etc, but I think that the biggest sign of a bounty scam is the hunters telegram ban by project team for speaking out about the coin/token distributions. I have experienced this situations severally and I think that it is the biggest sign of a bounty scam in recent times. What do you think?
Yes, I think we should learn white papaer of the bounty project that we join, It' s really difficult.
I have joined bounty campaign since 2015 but until now didnt know A big sign od a bounty scam while join the campaign.
maybe senior can share their experience here.
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Many of us had learnt some of the signs of a possible bounty projects scams, like no or poor white papers, identity of project team members etc, but I think that the biggest sign of a bounty scam is the hunters telegram ban by project team for speaking out about the coin/token distributions. I have experienced this situations severally and I think that it is the biggest sign of a bounty scam in recent times. What do you think?
Many projects run their marketing secretly and they do not want to share all the information about it. I have seen many good projects set rules in their bounty campaign that hunters can not talk about the bounty in the main group. They did that because sometimes it creates panic within investors because as soon as bounty token distributed price will dump.
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Many projects run their marketing secretly and they do not want to share all the information about it. I have seen many good projects set rules in their bounty campaign that hunters can not talk about the bounty in the main group. They did that because sometimes it creates panic within investors because as soon as bounty token distributed price will dump.
It's true what you say, many teams fear that investors will not buy or buy small amounts for fear that the bounty hunters will sell, but that's really a team lack of foresight problem. When a team is afraid that their coins/tokens will sell and cause a dump, the simplest solution is to pay the bounty with any stablecoin or Ethereum or BNB for example, so that their product does not lose value.
After the team performs the ICO, IDO or whatever, they will have enough funds to pay with any other coin without any problem. It is not a lack of solutions, it is a lack of foresight.
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Well it is not the time of 2016 where everything is in favour of us but now a lot of BM scammer that's scamming with their community I think we need to take some action against them making a list about all the bounty scammers and aware our community to don't join their bounty
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Well it is not the time of 2016 where everything is in favour of us but now a lot of BM scammer that's scamming with their community I think we need to take some action against them making a list about all the bounty scammers and aware our community to don't join their bounty
Yes, We must against scammers.
Scammers always look for the way to scam, but we personally should have knowledge to detect scammers first.
Be careful and always learn the projects.
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Well it is not the time of 2016 where everything is in favour of us but now a lot of BM scammer that's scamming with their community I think we need to take some action against them making a list about all the bounty scammers and aware our community to don't join their bounty
Yes, We must against scammers.
Scammers always look for the way to scam, but we personally should have knowledge to detect scammers first.
Be careful and always learn the projects.
Scammers are always on the wrong side. Even if they are very smart, there will always be decent people who will recognize them and inform others. We should all unite so that scammers have no chance to harm our finances.