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Re: 🍁 Jambler.io - Create your own Bitcoin Mixer ' FREE
« Reply #45 on: July 04, 2024, 07:58:33 AM »
Perhaps Jambler could add the link of their Altcoinstalks ANN to their homepage.

For the moment, only the locked Bitcointalk thread is present.
I think that's a good advice and it could be useful for Jambler.io as well. Since we all know that now Jambler.io has moved to Altcoinstalks an that's why it's better to have this announcement thread's link at their homepage. +1

I wonder why I haven't seen Jambler themselves on this thread for so long.

It's quite strange how many representatives have to migrated over to Altcoinstalks after the ban, and are instead relying on the campaign managers to do all the heavy lifting for them.

I believe it's important for project representatives to be especially active in order to be able to answer the queries of users.
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« Reply #46 on: July 04, 2024, 01:33:28 PM »
It's quite strange how many representatives have to migrated over to Altcoinstalks after the ban, and are instead relying on the campaign managers to do all the heavy lifting for them.

I believe it's important for project representatives to be especially active in order to be able to answer the queries of users.
It is interesting how few projects pay more attention to regular communication with users. Only a few have a dedicated person responsible for active participation on social media, forums, etc.
It is one thing to have a manager who will lead campaigns, open ANN and possibly mediate in the most critical cases, and it is quite another to have someone who will keep communication channels active.
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Re: 🍁 Jambler.io - Create your own Bitcoin Mixer ' FREE
« Reply #47 on: July 04, 2024, 05:11:56 PM »
It's quite strange how many representatives have to migrated over to Altcoinstalks after the ban, and are instead relying on the campaign managers to do all the heavy lifting for them.
I think that for some reason most of the project representatives are still not trusting Altcoinstalks forum enough, so they are not even registering accounts here.
They all decides to use campaign managers for communication, but maybe this will change in future.
Bitcointalk forum is much better with this, but even there I don't see team members active all the time.
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« Reply #48 on: July 05, 2024, 11:50:26 AM »
I think that for some reason most of the project representatives are still not trusting Altcoinstalks forum enough, so they are not even registering accounts here.
They all decides to use campaign managers for communication, but maybe this will change in future.
Bitcointalk forum is much better with this, but even there I don't see team members active all the time.

I'm thinking the same thing: if I were a mixer owner, I'd be very suspicious when a platform banned mixers and everyone migrated overnight to a new platform (where admin is unknown and not deleting logs). If I were them, I'd be afraid of a honeypot. Being a member of a signature campaign is one thing, owning a mixer is quite different in terms of real risks...
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Re: 🍁 Jambler.io - Create your own Bitcoin Mixer ' FREE
« Reply #49 on: July 05, 2024, 12:11:35 PM »
I'm thinking the same thing: if I were a mixer owner, I'd be very suspicious when a platform banned mixers and everyone migrated overnight to a new platform (where admin is unknown and not deleting logs). If I were them, I'd be afraid of a honeypot. Being a member of a signature campaign is one thing, owning a mixer is quite different in terms of real risks...
The new platform, a new beginning. Isn't it even safer to start from the beginning, this time with complete control over what you will allow to be known?
It is quite possible that the owners of the mixer at some point came to Btt with real IP addresses and regardless of whether they "know" who the administrator is, there is no guarantee that there is no log with such data and that they will not be handed over on request. You come to Altt for the first time and you are sure that there is no critical log about your accesses, that should be an advantage, I guess.
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« Reply #50 on: July 05, 2024, 01:17:01 PM »
I'm thinking the same thing: if I were a mixer owner, I'd be very suspicious when a platform banned mixers and everyone migrated overnight to a new platform (where admin is unknown and not deleting logs).
I think this forum has been running since 2018, so it is not new. What has changed is that bitcointalk banned mixing services, while altcointalk did not decide to ban them.
The data that the forum may collect is the IP address and cookies, and I believe that mixing services are able to bypass this basic data, which is the same data that Telegram collects, yet they have accounts there.

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« Reply #51 on: July 05, 2024, 01:32:37 PM »
I'm thinking the same thing: if I were a mixer owner, I'd be very suspicious when a platform banned mixers and everyone migrated overnight to a new platform (where admin is unknown and not deleting logs). If I were them, I'd be afraid of a honeypot. Being a member of a signature campaign is one thing, owning a mixer is quite different in terms of real risks...

That can be mitigated by using a VPN and a user agent spoofer, and by encrypting private messages with PGP if sensitive messages are to be shared.

Hell, you could do this to communicate on Twitter if you absolutely had to.
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« Reply #52 on: July 05, 2024, 02:15:28 PM »
That can be mitigated by using a VPN and a user agent spoofer, and by encrypting private messages with PGP if sensitive messages are to be shared.

Hell, you could do this to communicate on Twitter if you absolutely had to.

Agree yeah, but my point was that it is still probably easier / safer to have a manager in first line on a forum, at least when you have a trusted manager in your contacts list.

I would also prefer to see the respective team for each projet registered on the forum however, but I can imagine why it is like it is now
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Re: 🍁 Jambler.io - Create your own Bitcoin Mixer ' FREE
« Reply #53 on: July 05, 2024, 02:18:54 PM »
Passed the information to the Jambler team (link to this thread should be added soon).

Perhaps Jambler could add the link of their Altcoinstalks ANN to their homepage.

For the moment, only the locked Bitcointalk thread is present.


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Re: 🍁 Jambler.io - Create your own Bitcoin Mixer ' FREE
« Reply #54 on: July 05, 2024, 06:44:22 PM »
a link to this thread has been added  ;)
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Re: 🍁 Jambler.io - Create your own Bitcoin Mixer ' FREE
« Reply #55 on: July 05, 2024, 07:29:42 PM »
I'm thinking the same thing: if I were a mixer owner, I'd be very suspicious when a platform banned mixers and everyone migrated overnight to a new platform (where admin is unknown and not deleting logs). If I were them, I'd be afraid of a honeypot. Being a member of a signature campaign is one thing, owning a mixer is quite different in terms of real risks...
Especially after being banned on bitcointalk forum everyone could be thinking that the same thing could happen in all other forums.
I think that admin in AltcoinsTalks publicly said he won't do anything similar like mass ban even if he received threats from regulators.
Jambler should be fine as long as they keep the current campaign manager.

you could do this to communicate on Twitter if you absolutely had to.
You think that we can't trust Elon?  :o
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Re: 🍁 Jambler.io - Create your own Bitcoin Mixer ' FREE
« Reply #56 on: July 05, 2024, 08:47:02 PM »
It's quite strange how many representatives have to migrated over to Altcoinstalks after the ban, and are instead relying on the campaign managers to do all the heavy lifting for them.
I think that for some reason most of the project representatives are still not trusting Altcoinstalks forum enough, so they are not even registering accounts here.
They all decides to use campaign managers for communication, but maybe this will change in future.
Bitcointalk forum is much better with this, but even there I don't see team members active all the time.
You are completely right actually, I think it's more like them seeing Altcointalks as a copy cat, I myself usually do not have respect for copycats 😁.

Or should I say, it's just like Bitcoin and Altcoin, there are many in this industry that are into bitcoin and bitcoin alone, anything else outside of bitcoin that is still a cryptocurrency is  regarded as a shitcoin.
So maybe that is how they are seeing this forum at the moment, but like you rightly said, all that can change in the future, altcoinstalks just need to keep improving, get more popular with significant increase in traffic here, on board more business willing to advertise here, and then representatives can decide to join here knowing fully well that they have a lot of users/customers that are users of this forum outside of bitcointalk.
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Re: 🍁 Jambler.io - Create your own Bitcoin Mixer ' FREE
« Reply #57 on: August 06, 2024, 01:24:16 PM »
Although Jambler does not have its representatives officially registered here, I believe that at some point they still follow the discussion here.

As a large number of currently active mixers are Jambler's partners, what would you recommend to them as an improvement of the platform?

For example, to begin with, I would like to see something in the direction of reducing the fixed network fee, which (as far as I know) is 0.0007 BTC/per address with all Jambler partners. I know that in the whole process, there are a lot of costs, such as partner and investor fees, and finally signatures and other promotions on forums. However, I have the impression that there could be a correction here, especially at a time when network fees are cheap.

Also, the affiliate program is quite lacking. I know that this is a considerable decrease in earnings, but it would certainly popularize the promotion.
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Re: 🍁 Jambler.io - Create your own Bitcoin Mixer ' FREE
« Reply #58 on: August 11, 2024, 12:04:07 AM »
It's quite strange how many representatives have to migrated over to Altcoinstalks after the ban, and are instead relying on the campaign managers to do all the heavy lifting for them.

I believe it's important for project representatives to be especially active in order to be able to answer the queries of users.
It is interesting how few projects pay more attention to regular communication with users. Only a few have a dedicated person responsible for active participation on social media, forums, etc.
It is one thing to have a manager who will lead campaigns, open ANN and possibly mediate in the most critical cases, and it is quite another to have someone who will keep communication channels active.
What do you expect when they have all boss up, leaving their community to managers to deal with all the workload for them, even at bitcointalk.org before the mixer ban, I rearly see project team members being all that active, what we see most is that they may be active in the first few page of their Ann, but along the lines, they tend to fold back and become inactive.

I thinyit high time that they began to engage with their community, for a fact I visited this thread just to know the current status of this project if they are still active or not.

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Re: 🍁 Jambler.io - Create your own Bitcoin Mixer ' FREE
« Reply #59 on: August 18, 2024, 02:15:30 PM »
Bump!
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