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Cryptocurrency Ecosystem => Bitcoin Forum => Topic started by: Peter90 on April 20, 2024, 04:23:42 PM

Title: What Happened To Bitcoin?
Post by: Peter90 on April 20, 2024, 04:23:42 PM
"Those who involved themselves in Bitcoin markets after 2017 encountered a different operation and ideal than those who came before. Today, no one much cares about what came before, speaking of 2010-2016. They are only watching the upward price momentum and are thrilled for the increase in the asset valuation of their portfolio.

Gone is the talk of separating money and state, of a market-based means of exchange, of genuine revolution that would extend from money to the whole of politics the world over. And gone is the talk of changing the operation of money as a means of changing the prospects for freedom itself. The enthusiasts around Bitcoin have different goals in mind.

And during this entire period, the exact time when this digital asset might have protected multitudes of users and businesses from rapacious inflation growing out of the worst and most globalized experience of corporatist statism in modern history, made possible due to the money monopoly of central banks that funded the operation, the original asset that carries the symbol BTC was systematically diverted from its original purpose.

So, yes, I became an early enthusiast, writing hundreds of articles, even publishing a book in 2015 called Bit By Bit: How P2P Is Freeing the World.

I could not have known it at the time, but those were in fact the last days of the ideal and just before the protocol came to be controlled by a consolidated group of developers who jettisoned entirely the idea of peer-to-peer cash to turn it into a high-earning digital security, not a competitor with state-based money but rather an asset designed not to use but hold with third-party intermediaries controlling access."

zerohedge.com (https://www.zerohedge.com/crypto/what-happened-bitcoin)
Title: Re: What Happened To Bitcoin?
Post by: Peter90 on April 20, 2024, 04:29:25 PM
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"The story you will read here is of tragedy, the chronicle of an emancipationist monetary technology subverted to other ends. It’s a painful read, to be sure, and the first time this story has been told with this much detail and sophistication. We had the chance to free the world. That chance was missed, likely hijacked and subverted.

Those of us who watched Bitcoin from the earliest days saw with fascination how it gained traction and seemed to offer a viable alternative path for the future of money. At long last, after thousands of years of government corruption of money, we finally had a technology that was untouchable, sound, stable, democratic, incorruptible, and a fulfillment of the vision of the great champions of freedom from all history. At last, money could be liberated from state control and thus achieve economic rather than political goals—prosperity for everyone versus war, inflation, and state expansion.

That was the vision in any case. Alas, it did not happen. Bitcoin adoption is lower today than it was five years ago. It is not on a trajectory of final victory but on a different path to gradually increase in price for its earlier adopters. In short, the technology was betrayed by small changes that hardly anyone understood at the time."

zerohedge.com (https://www.zerohedge.com/crypto/what-happened-bitcoin)

Title: Re: What Happened To Bitcoin?
Post by: Peter90 on May 01, 2024, 12:28:18 AM
What a coincidence

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Title: Re: What Happened To Bitcoin?
Post by: TomPluz on May 03, 2024, 02:35:37 PM
Gone is the talk of separating money and state, of a market-based means of exchange, of genuine revolution that would extend from money to the whole of politics the world over. And gone is the talk of changing the operation of money as a means of changing the prospects for freedom itself. The enthusiasts around Bitcoin have different goals in mind.

As a humble and simple observer of Bitcoin and one who has still many things to learn and understand on this matter, I think there is a big merit to this analysis, much more in 2024 compared to many years preceding. Right now, Bitcoin is officially recognized by the traditional financial sector as an asset - just like gold, stooks or forex - that can be bought, traded and made a good profits from. Many people are associating the value of Bitcoin with its ups and downs on the price and not so much of the things that can benefit the people and the society. I would fairly say that greed is now the moving factor with most of the people involved with Bitcoin and I would also say that it would be this can be true for years to come.


Title: Re: What Happened To Bitcoin?
Post by: Lucius on May 03, 2024, 06:20:55 PM
I think we will very easily agree that we have already moved quite far from the time when Satoshi and Hal paved the way for Bitcoin and that for years (especially after 2017) we have been moving in a direction that takes us away from what Bitcoin should have been. I think that people are generally not ready, or maybe it's better to say that they don't want anything like Bitcoin, because most of them are heavily influenced by their governments and politicians and listen to them in practically everything.

Therefore, it is logical that Bitcoin went in the only possible direction in which it could survive - because if the majority did not want to use it as a currency, and at the same time there was no interest from the big players, I wonder if we would be here today discussing Bitcoin.

Given that I have been with Bitcoin for almost 10 years, I think that, like many others, I remember that time with a bit of nostalgia - because people were with Bitcoin not only because of the price, which was incomparably lower then than today - but because they felt some kind of freedom in in the sense that they can be their own bank.
Title: Re: What Happened To Bitcoin?
Post by: MrSpasybo on May 04, 2024, 10:38:40 PM
I think we will very easily agree that we have already moved quite far from the time when Satoshi and Hal paved the way for Bitcoin and that for years (especially after 2017) we have been moving in a direction that takes us away from what Bitcoin should have been. I think that people are generally not ready, or maybe it's better to say that they don't want anything like Bitcoin, because most of them are heavily influenced by their governments and politicians and listen to them in practically everything.

Therefore, it is logical that Bitcoin went in the only possible direction in which it could survive - because if the majority did not want to use it as a currency, and at the same time there was no interest from the big players, I wonder if we would be here today discussing Bitcoin.

Given that I have been with Bitcoin for almost 10 years, I think that, like many others, I remember that time with a bit of nostalgia - because people were with Bitcoin not only because of the price, which was incomparably lower then than today - but because they felt some kind of freedom in in the sense that they can be their own bank.
Yeah, as Satoshi laid out: BTC can be anything that is useful to the world in the future, the potential of BTC is not just limited to a means of payment or the ability to transfer money across borders. BTC can be used for Inscription or something more interesting, so I believe that every decision of the community is the best thing for the future of BTC, including the decision to keep the block size the same in 2017.

BTC is for everyone, which means that large organizations can also participate in the BTC ecosystem: buying or selling BTC, accumulating BTC, manipulating the BTC price. They can do whatever they want, just like I can transfer my BTC without asking for permission from BlackRock or the US government. That is the decentralized and neutral nature of BTC, and while we respect it, we must also accept the participation and impact of bigboys in the market.
Title: Re: What Happened To Bitcoin?
Post by: electronicash on May 04, 2024, 10:57:37 PM

gone are the days when the silent revolution supposedly grow after KYC and then it becomes the normal already where its now suppress. in fact more people are siding governments because of the thinking that we need the government for the adoption of crypto.

there is truth to it though but still BTC can stand on its own without the government but then the community becomes more divided when there were forks done.
Title: Re: What Happened To Bitcoin?
Post by: Google+ on May 05, 2024, 10:14:23 AM

gone are the days when the silent revolution supposedly grow after KYC and then it becomes the normal already where its now suppress. in fact more people are siding governments because of the thinking that we need the government for the adoption of crypto.

there is truth to it though but still BTC can stand on its own without the government but then the community becomes more divided when there were forks done.
The public deliberately encourages the government to provide support for cryptocurrency, but you must know that the government will not make decisions without considering the risks that might occur. The government is aware that the unstable movement of up and down cryptocurrency prices is very dangerous for its citizens.
Title: Re: What Happened To Bitcoin?
Post by: Lucius on May 05, 2024, 03:27:14 PM
~snip~
BTC is for everyone, which means that large organizations can also participate in the BTC ecosystem: buying or selling BTC, accumulating BTC, manipulating the BTC price. They can do whatever they want, just like I can transfer my BTC without asking for permission from BlackRock or the US government. That is the decentralized and neutral nature of BTC, and while we respect it, we must also accept the participation and impact of bigboys in the market.


There is no doubt about that, the market is completely open and everyone can participate in it - but it is also an indisputable fact that in this, if we can call it a competition, ordinary people have little or almost no chance compared to the big players. It seems to me that more and more BTC ends up in the hands of those who do not see the problem in the fact that 1 BTC costs $60k, while such a high price for ordinary people mostly results in the expression "it's simply expensive". Of course, everyone can buy only a small part of BTC, but people have a tendency to believe that 1 (any coin) is more than, say, 0.0054748 BTC, which is often not true.

What I want to say is that the high price of BTC pushes more and more people towards altcoins, and that more and more BTC ends up in the hands of rich people who will probably own a significant number of BTC in the years to come.
When we add to that that companies like BlackRock are buying significant shares in the largest mining farms, it becomes a little clearer in which direction Bitcoin could go.
Title: Re: What Happened To Bitcoin?
Post by: Peter90 on May 06, 2024, 07:53:54 PM
Great posts everybody


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So, I feel confident in saying that the adoption of BTC as everyday money - 15 years after its launch - is basically zero.
Where I live, if my only money were BTC I'd starve.
Or have a very limited, exotic diet  :D

As an investment, BTC has been a success story.
As a currency, a failure.


I'm a fan of good money, money which doesn't lose purchasing power.
I'm a fan of p2p - which means privacy, not secrecy.
BTC was hope.


Imo BTC has failed as currency because of its volatility.
Think of a business - a dentist, barber, taxi driver, shoe seller - having on average a 3-5% profit out of each transaction.
Accepting BTC he could lose - given BTC volatility - all of that within 1 day.
Nobody likes to work for nothing.
Why take the risk.
Why accept BTC and then be forced to convert it as quick as possible in a stable currency.
Title: Re: What Happened To Bitcoin?
Post by: yhiaali3 on May 06, 2024, 10:02:16 PM
In fact, it is a painful article, but it is very expressive of the bad reality that Bitcoin has reached after it was hijacked by some greedy people, and now things are getting worse because of governments that have begun to contain Bitcoin in a circumventing way.

Most people currently only care about the price of Bitcoin and do not care about the other unique features of Bitcoin, and because of their greed, governments have been able to control Bitcoin by controlling centralized and decentralized third-party services.

I see that Satoshi's dream is about to be lost, and Bitcoin today is very different from Satoshi's vision when it was created
Title: Re: What Happened To Bitcoin?
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on May 06, 2024, 10:34:19 PM
Well, when talking about bitcoin, yes, it is normal that many people, institutions, because it is something that can be done focused only on the price, the only interest is that the investment goes up and up, it is an asset that is given by speculation of the market, Regarding the characteristics and everything that Bitcoin represents, there are many things that people do not know, but also some services have been in charge of privatizing certain things that have to do with Bitcoin, the fact of complying with KYC and the fact Doing all kinds of things focused on knowing who handles bitcoin is what has also damaged this, there are many things that Satoshi would not have liked and that continue to happen he
Title: Re: What Happened To Bitcoin?
Post by: Lucius on May 07, 2024, 05:08:51 PM
So, I feel confident in saying that the adoption of BTC as everyday money - 15 years after its launch - is basically zero.
Where I live, if my only money were BTC I'd starve.
Or have a very limited, exotic diet  :D
As an investment, BTC has been a success story.
As a currency, a failure.


I would not agree that the adaptation in terms of using it as a currency is completely zero - but that it still depends on where you are and how big the crypto community is around you. If there are enough people who want to pay with crypto-currencies and they organize themselves and visit merchants with a request to add such a payment method, sometimes it happens.

I don't know how familiar you are with the example of Arnhem Bitcoin City (https://adoptingbitcoinarnhem.com), but I heard that there are similar places in the EU where Bitcoin really took off because people asked for it and sellers recognized it.

Imo BTC has failed as currency because of its volatility.
Think of a business - a dentist, barber, taxi driver, shoe seller - having on average a 3-5% profit out of each transaction.
Accepting BTC he could lose - given BTC volatility - all of that within 1 day.
Nobody likes to work for nothing.
Why take the risk.
Why accept BTC and then be forced to convert it as quick as possible in a stable currency.


Volatility is an advantage when trading, but of course a disadvantage when paying with Bitcoin - but that's why there are payment processors that serve to overcome that problem. The buyer pays with cryptocurrency, and the seller gets fiat, so it's a win-win situation for both.

It is true that there are not too many physical stores that accept BTC because we also have the problem that on-chain transactions are not instant, but that is why we have thousands of online sellers that accept BTC. Imagine living in a country where you can buy almost anything you want for BTC (https://bazzar.hr), and you don't have to pay taxes if 2+ years have passed since you invested in any cryptocurrency - it seems unrealistic, but it's true ;)
Title: Re: What Happened To Bitcoin?
Post by: Aanuoluwatofunmi on May 07, 2024, 08:12:36 PM
"Those who involved themselves in Bitcoin markets after 2017 encountered a different operation and ideal than those who came before. Today, no one much cares about what came before, speaking of 2010-2016. They are only watching the upward price momentum and are thrilled for the increase in the asset valuation of their portfolio.

Have you then consider the reason why many people do this, its because they have realized that the past is gone already and there is nothing you can do towards that again, but we all have the ability to influence the future right now from our decision taken today, that is why those that invested lately never consider themselves as late investors, because they realized that opportunity in bitcoin network is a continuous expectation they can always achieve with time.
Title: Re: What Happened To Bitcoin?
Post by: bayu7adi on May 08, 2024, 09:48:54 AM
Honestly, your dedication to spreading knowledge about Bitcoin deserves to be appreciated. Yes, I also realize that cryptocurrency users are currently experiencing a quite worrying transition, where currently many people are more interested in making price predictions and taking advantage of using exchanges. Few care about financial freedom or the decentralized mechanisms that Satoshi Nakamoto is trying to put forward today.

But neither we nor Satoshi can prevent this, because according to his predictions, Bitcoin in the future will have two possibilities, namely dying or becoming as big as it is now. And I think the status of Bitcoin right now is to be big.
Title: Re: What Happened To Bitcoin?
Post by: SmartGold01 on May 08, 2024, 10:34:50 AM
"Those who involved themselves in Bitcoin markets after 2017 encountered a different operation and ideal than those who came before. Today, no one much cares about what came before, speaking of 2010-2016. They are only watching the upward price momentum and are thrilled for the increase in the asset valuation of their portfolio.

Have you then consider the reason why many people do this, its because they have realized that the past is gone already and there is nothing you can do towards that again, but we all have the ability to influence the future right now from our decision taken today, that is why those that invested lately never consider themselves as late investors, because they realized that opportunity in bitcoin network is a continuous expectation they can always achieve with time.
Whom to be blame themselves or the creator of bitcoin?
We know this and even before now they never believed in bitcoin because then many of them where seeing it as something that is so manipulative and some point could lose their investment and yes they don't really get convinced just like that, let say someone just came up something you never had experience of or even know how it looks like and asked you to invest or put your money would you just put your money or you would wait to monitor how that thing works first, and maybe would want to be thoroughly convinced before you could do that so, same thing is applicable to the current world where people are wanting to delve into bitcoin investment not just of utilizing the true nature of it but both in profits and they believed is going place and here to stay.
Title: Re: What Happened To Bitcoin?
Post by: 0t3p0t on May 08, 2024, 03:54:46 PM
"Those who involved themselves in Bitcoin markets after 2017 encountered a different operation and ideal than those who came before. Today, no one much cares about what came before, speaking of 2010-2016. They are only watching the upward price momentum and are thrilled for the increase in the asset valuation of their portfolio.

Have you then consider the reason why many people do this, its because they have realized that the past is gone already and there is nothing you can do towards that again, but we all have the ability to influence the future right now from our decision taken today, that is why those that invested lately never consider themselves as late investors, because they realized that opportunity in bitcoin network is a continuous expectation they can always achieve with time.
I agree. I think one of the reason why people are only watching the price momentum because of the fact that we treat Bitcoin as the best investment rather than using it as payment method. The potential of making Bitcoin as an investment is quite huge and it offers tons of opportunities we can grab compared to using it as a payment system dwhich is for me not an option anymore due to some reasons like high fees.
Title: Re: What Happened To Bitcoin?
Post by: Peter90 on May 08, 2024, 08:03:45 PM
The potential of making Bitcoin as an investment is quite huge and it offers tons of opportunities we can grab compared to using it as a payment system which is for me not an option anymore due to some reasons like high fees.

Thanks 0t
so, high fees, that of course prevents any coin to be used as a currency.
I read of layer2 networks, where BTC can be transacted quickly and at low fees.
Title: Re: What Happened To Bitcoin?
Post by: Peter90 on May 08, 2024, 08:36:17 PM
Crypto people rejoicing about the arrest of Roger Ver

Roger Ver has been arrested  (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=320949.msg1553900#msg1553900)


These dudes are clearly completely ignorant about the case,
they simply side with authorities and mainstream media because it's convenient.

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Title: Re: What Happened To Bitcoin?
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on May 08, 2024, 09:47:08 PM
"Those who involved themselves in Bitcoin markets after 2017 encountered a different operation and ideal than those who came before. Today, no one much cares about what came before, speaking of 2010-2016. They are only watching the upward price momentum and are thrilled for the increase in the asset valuation of their portfolio.

Have you then consider the reason why many people do this, its because they have realized that the past is gone already and there is nothing you can do towards that again, but we all have the ability to influence the future right now from our decision taken today, that is why those that invested lately never consider themselves as late investors, because they realized that opportunity in bitcoin network is a continuous expectation they can always achieve with time.
Whom to be blame themselves or the creator of bitcoin?
We know this and even before now they never believed in bitcoin because then many of them where seeing it as something that is so manipulative and some point could lose their investment and yes they don't really get convinced just like that, let say someone just came up something you never had experience of or even know how it looks like and asked you to invest or put your money would you just put your money or you would wait to monitor how that thing works first, and maybe would want to be thoroughly convinced before you could do that so, same thing is applicable to the current world where people are wanting to delve into bitcoin investment not just of utilizing the true nature of it but both in profits and they believed is going place and here to stay.

Most people who get into bitcoin do it because they want to see and feel the profit, that is why they make large investments in bitcoin because they know that at Any time they cannot make a lot of money with it, it is presumed that it can reach more than $200k and that It is a very good incentive, just having 1 sol or bitcoin is enough , now those who have more than 10BTC, that is something that not everyone has the privilege, that is why it is so valued , perhaps because of the speculative market, not bad that many of them are looking for money, to have more money, you can't blame them and thank them because the value of bitcoin decreases, no, Some are still enthusiasts, others enemies of bitcoin, but in the real world, everything is money.
Title: Re: What Happened To Bitcoin?
Post by: Gladitorcomeback on May 09, 2024, 08:42:39 PM
We know this and even before now they never believed in bitcoin because then many of them where seeing it as something that is so manipulative and some point could lose their investment and yes they don't really get convinced just like that, let say someone just came up something you never had experience of or even know how it looks like and asked you to invest or put your money would you just put your money or you would wait to monitor how that thing works first, and maybe would want to be thoroughly convinced before you could do that so, same thing is applicable to the current world where people are wanting to delve into bitcoin investment not just of utilizing the true nature of it but both in profits and they believed is going place and here to stay.

No doubt about that, people need to do their research before they get involved in Bitcoin or any other cryptocurrency in general if they have never heard of them before or don't know what they are, how they work, where they are stored, etc. There is nothing wrong with a person saying that they will first need to understand them before they decide whether they want to get involved or not.

To be honest, I don't think that a person wise enough to understand basic things and realize actual potential wouldn't stay away once they do enough research about Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies, especially after they check its price history because it's insane.
Title: Re: What Happened To Bitcoin?
Post by: Faisal2202 on May 09, 2024, 10:26:36 PM
That's because the hype of BTC was too much that one day or another, it has to be adopted by governments, and will be legalized. So when that happens or happening now, the government wants to control it, they want to control it because that's how they can control people. But to control BTC they have to manipulate people's minds and provide them with more and more centralized platforms so that they can take over the funds of people anytime.

To keep yourself anonymous and save your funds from CEXs, new platforms are coming, for example, obfuscating platforms (mixers) DEXs, and other DeFi wallets, open source, and decentralized ones. But still, governments are targeting these platforms in the name of providing security to the people and to some extent they are at right because some bad actors are taking bad advantage of this technology. Besides BTC did not lose its purpose, mainly not because of the people after 2017, it's because of the people before 2017. Like they are holding hundreds of BTC why? Why did they not used them for p2p or other buying and selling purposes. They are the one who set's a base in the minds of upcoming peoples. CMIIW.
Title: Re: What Happened To Bitcoin?
Post by: vegasus on May 09, 2024, 10:40:23 PM
Whom to be blame themselves or the creator of bitcoin?
We know this and even before now they never believed in bitcoin because then many of them where seeing it as something that is so manipulative and some point could lose their investment and yes they don't really get convinced just like that, let say someone just came up something you never had experience of or even know how it looks like and asked you to invest or put your money would you just put your money or you would wait to monitor how that thing works first, and maybe would want to be thoroughly convinced before you could do that so, same thing is applicable to the current world where people are wanting to delve into bitcoin investment not just of utilizing the true nature of it but both in profits and they believed is going place and here to stay.
When it comes to the losses they experienced, if people blame Bitcoin's creators, then that is quite stupid. But it's true, there are still people who think about this. Yes, once again, once a hater will be hated whatever the conditions. then I will always hate the existing situation. But basically, we understand that if someone who is new to crypto immediately starts investing in Bitcoin without sufficient understanding first, and has very little patience, and doesn't want to learn and understand it first, then this will actually be a deeper misconception. Again. because their benchmark is investing and taking profits. but does not consider the process aspects of the investment.
Title: Re: What Happened To Bitcoin?
Post by: enwi on May 10, 2024, 11:58:37 AM
Whom to be blame themselves or the creator of bitcoin?
We know this and even before now they never believed in bitcoin because then many of them where seeing it as something that is so manipulative and some point could lose their investment and yes they don't really get convinced just like that, let say someone just came up something you never had experience of or even know how it looks like and asked you to invest or put your money would you just put your money or you would wait to monitor how that thing works first, and maybe would want to be thoroughly convinced before you could do that so, same thing is applicable to the current world where people are wanting to delve into bitcoin investment not just of utilizing the true nature of it but both in profits and they believed is going place and here to stay.
When it comes to the losses they experienced, if people blame Bitcoin's creators, then that is quite stupid. But it's true, there are still people who think about this. Yes, once again, once a hater will be hated whatever the conditions. then I will always hate the existing situation. But basically, we understand that if someone who is new to crypto immediately starts investing in Bitcoin without sufficient understanding first, and has very little patience, and doesn't want to learn and understand it first, then this will actually be a deeper misconception. Again. because their benchmark is investing and taking profits. but does not consider the process aspects of the investment.
It's true, the losses experienced by traders are of course their own fault because they are too easily influenced by the situation in the market and they enter bitcoin without further knowledge, bitcoin has a very high risk therefore before buying bitcoin you must do it. research first.
Title: Re: What Happened To Bitcoin?
Post by: bitterguy28 on May 10, 2024, 12:45:32 PM
This year bitcoin once again brings good jump for all investors so I guess what is happening in bitcoin  is just a resting for what better coming in the next months or at least a year.
so I know that I can wait a little more before feeling frustrated at least.

So there is no article that will change my mind about what I need to deal in the future.
Title: Re: What Happened To Bitcoin?
Post by: SmartGold01 on May 10, 2024, 01:24:22 PM
Whom to be blame themselves or the creator of bitcoin?
We know this and even before now they never believed in bitcoin because then many of them where seeing it as something that is so manipulative and some point could lose their investment and yes they don't really get convinced just like that, let say someone just came up something you never had experience of or even know how it looks like and asked you to invest or put your money would you just put your money or you would wait to monitor how that thing works first, and maybe would want to be thoroughly convinced before you could do that so, same thing is applicable to the current world where people are wanting to delve into bitcoin investment not just of utilizing the true nature of it but both in profits and they believed is going place and here to stay.
When it comes to the losses they experienced, if people blame Bitcoin's creators, then that is quite stupid. But it's true, there are still people who think about this. Yes, once again, once a hater will be hated whatever the conditions. then I will always hate the existing situation. But basically, we understand that if someone who is new to crypto immediately starts investing in Bitcoin without sufficient understanding first, and has very little patience, and doesn't want to learn and understand it first, then this will actually be a deeper misconception. Again. because their benchmark is investing and taking profits. but does not consider the process aspects of the investment.
It's true, the losses experienced by traders are of course their own fault because they are too easily influenced by the situation in the market and they enter bitcoin without further knowledge, bitcoin has a very high risk therefore before buying bitcoin you must do it. research first.
So at all cost would always want to venture into bitcoin investment, but the success of their investment depends on their level of information they have through the period of their investment. There are people who doesn't go information and just jump into market since he knew that people are going into bitcoin investment, even though he decided to go for long time investment but without knowing the right things could fall out of fate. So, any person(s) who is wanting to invest would should go for knowledge to have it sufficiently enough to manage their holdings.
Title: Re: What Happened To Bitcoin?
Post by: Gurujebs on May 10, 2024, 02:00:16 PM
I agree. I think one of the reason why people are only watching the price momentum because of the fact that we treat Bitcoin as the best investment rather than using it as payment method. The potential of making Bitcoin as an investment is quite huge and it offers tons of opportunities we can grab compared to using it as a payment system dwhich is for me not an option anymore due to some reasons like high fees.

On chain Bitcoin network can't be use as a normal transaction, as long as Bitcoin network is designed to prioritize transactions, it wouldn't work. You don't expect people to pay $10 dollar because they want to get something across street and they have to wait for the transaction to be comfirm in some minutes and if mempool get charge with more transactions, you will have to wait until it cool off with transactions.

Bitcoin can only be as utility investment to the people and not really as settlement currency but maybe you can say Lightening network but it doesn't have liquidity like the main chain.
Title: Re: What Happened To Bitcoin?
Post by: Jamal Aezaz on May 10, 2024, 08:50:47 PM
It's true, the losses experienced by traders are of course their own fault because they are too easily influenced by the situation in the market and they enter bitcoin without further knowledge, bitcoin has a very high risk therefore before buying bitcoin you must do it. research first.

Such types of people are trapped in wrong investment strategies because they believe blindly on others but don't take time to learn and investigate so if they are serious about their money then they will not put their money in any type of investment without doing their own research.

The main focus of people these days is just to make more money so they will not search and will do what others do but this is not a wise investment strategy because maybe the other person did research before Investment so he will achieve his target while you will be deprived of your profit.
Title: Re: What Happened To Bitcoin?
Post by: EthereumDev_ on May 11, 2024, 07:00:17 PM
This year bitcoin once again brings good jump for all investors so I guess what is happening in bitcoin  is just a resting for what better coming in the next months or at least a year.
so I know that I can wait a little more before feeling frustrated at least.

So there is no article that will change my mind about what I need to deal in the future.
Usually when you want to make a price decrease there will be a pump again and after that it will enter a bearish period, for now I see the graph that has happened, there is no pump happening again, it will probably happen in the middle of this year or maybe it could happen at the end of the year This.
Title: Re: What Happened To Bitcoin?
Post by: JISAN on May 11, 2024, 07:11:04 PM
This year bitcoin once again brings good jump for all investors so I guess what is happening in bitcoin  is just a resting for what better coming in the next months or at least a year.
so I know that I can wait a little more before feeling frustrated at least.

So there is no article that will change my mind about what I need to deal in the future.
Usually when you want to make a price decrease there will be a pump again and after that it will enter a bearish period, for now I see the graph that has happened, there is no pump happening again, it will probably happen in the middle of this year or maybe it could happen at the end of the year This.
The more dip the price of bitcoin is seen, the bigger the opportunity for us to save bitcoin. We have already lost many big opportunities before, but even at this time, if we don't take advantage of the dip season of bitcoin, it will be a big failure for us. so, instead of panicking, you should be more happy to see the price of Bitcoin falling. and should invest in Bitcoin as per the ability which can bring a good result in future. so just buy bitcoin without any worrying
Title: Re: What Happened To Bitcoin?
Post by: TopT3ns on May 12, 2024, 10:56:33 AM
The more dip the price of bitcoin is seen, the bigger the opportunity for us to save bitcoin. We have already lost many big opportunities before, but even at this time, if we don't take advantage of the dip season of bitcoin, it will be a big failure for us. so, instead of panicking, you should be more happy to see the price of Bitcoin falling. and should invest in Bitcoin as per the ability which can bring a good result in future. so just buy bitcoin without any worrying
That's right, therefore we now have to immediately prepare USD to get ready to buy bitcoin and other coins that have cheap prices when the bearish season comes. This fall in the price of bitcoin must have bad news that can trigger whales to manipulate the coin price in the market so that it appears to have fallen very deeply.
Title: Re: What Happened To Bitcoin?
Post by: Peter90 on May 13, 2024, 06:07:08 PM
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Title: Re: What Happened To Bitcoin?
Post by: akeemqaz on May 13, 2024, 08:17:12 PM
BTC has been a game-changer, enabling not just peer-to-peer transactions but also revolutionizing various financial domains. Its utility extends far beyond a mere currency. Personally, I prefer pairing my assets with BTC on Bitget's smart portfolio to accumulate more BTC whenever the paired assets pump against it, because of it enduring value.
Title: Re: What Happened To Bitcoin?
Post by: Peter90 on May 14, 2024, 04:48:21 PM
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I don't consider BTC a Ponzi scheme.
I like the comment of "Eric Olson".
Title: Re: What Happened To Bitcoin?
Post by: NotATether on May 15, 2024, 10:43:03 AM
Personally, I prefer pairing my assets with BTC on Bitget's smart portfolio to accumulate more BTC whenever the paired assets pump against it, because of it enduring value.

I actually do all of my transactions in bitcoin and never buy or sell any, as I don't have the means to do so. So it's out of necessity, really. It is quite limiting but that was the way it was intended to be used.
Title: Re: What Happened To Bitcoin?
Post by: akeemqaz on May 16, 2024, 02:43:49 AM
I actually do all of my transactions in bitcoin and never buy or sell any, as I don't have the means to do so. So it's out of necessity, really. It is quite limiting but that was the way it was intended to be used.
My country is starting to ban P2P as well. But my exchange still supports it. And you are right. That was the way it was intended to be used, and using it that way seems to affect fiat currency a lot. Maybe that is one of the reasons why my country has decided to start going against P2P.
Title: Re: What Happened To Bitcoin?
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on May 16, 2024, 11:05:24 PM
The more dip the price of bitcoin is seen, the bigger the opportunity for us to save bitcoin. We have already lost many big opportunities before, but even at this time, if we don't take advantage of the dip season of bitcoin, it will be a big failure for us. so, instead of panicking, you should be more happy to see the price of Bitcoin falling. and should invest in Bitcoin as per the ability which can bring a good result in future. so just buy bitcoin without any worrying
That's right, therefore we now have to immediately prepare USD to get ready to buy bitcoin and other coins that have cheap prices when the bearish season comes. This fall in the price of bitcoin must have bad news that can trigger whales to manipulate the coin price in the market so that it appears to have fallen very deeply.

But the price is not bad at all, it has recovered satisfactorily and things are going well, at a price of $65k things are looking at par, that means that another good impulse can be generated to reach $70k, yes , there has been a big volatility, but it is normal, $62k to $65k is not bad at all, I personally have always said something, the more patient you are, the better results you can expect, bitcon is the safest investment in the world for My, that's clear to me, that's why the price doesn't worry me, I only worry because I don't have more fiat money to buy when those corrections are made.
Title: Re: What Happened To Bitcoin?
Post by: Jamal Aezaz on May 17, 2024, 08:15:18 AM
That's right, therefore we now have to immediately prepare USD to get ready to buy bitcoin and other coins that have cheap prices when the bearish season comes. This fall in the price of bitcoin must have bad news that can trigger whales to manipulate the coin price in the market so that it appears to have fallen very deeply.

All the coins were lower in price but now they are steadily pumping to attain their top positions because Bitcoin has been increased from 62k$ towards 66k$.

This slight pump suggests that bear season has not yet started but still people can buy their favorite coins as the price is not as high as everyone was expecting before halving.

This little increase means that the market is recovering now but the whales are trying a lot to change the market condition by making their trades on large scales. We have to accumulate our coins and then have to let the profit take in future when the price goes higher.