Green candle showing again after bitcoin halving. I think now we are going slowly to bull session. Bitcoin history tell us after bitcoin halving Bitcoin price increased huge. So we can easily think this halving bitcoin price will increase i have no doubt about it.

So i think gradually bitcoin market being positive and Green candle showing. And i think it will be continue till 2025. I believe within short time bitcoin price will hit $100k. So candle will green.

The bull run session probably won't happen this season, maybe it will happen next year, because usually like last year, the bull run occurs one year after the halving has occurred, so you can be sure that the bull run this time will follow its history like that.

Quote from: TomPluz on April 21, 2024, 09:15:05 AM

(...) As for me, the situation you mentioned above will not have a direct effect on the price of Bitcoin as it is the shares of that company that got sold and is not really the Bitcoin being held by the company in question. (...)

Just to clarify, I only meant pure supply/demand market mechanisms, not the psychological effect (such as losing confidence etc).

Let's try to break it down:
So what would happen if such dump caused the price of shares to go below the price of bitcoin (ie. they would be traded below company's market value)? If the arbitrage could be applied, i.e. new shareholders could force the company to sell bitcoins - then all is clear. But if new shareholders could not make the decision to sell, then the only impact on BTC price would be that some potential BTC buyers would choose to buy cheaper company shares instead (so reducing demand for BTC and causing the price to drop).

I can't think of any other factors.

Arbitrage seems to be very difficult to do because currently you have to look at transaction costs which are quite expensive which will make many traders who use the arbitrage method consider sending assets using bitcoin. If you buy shares in a cheaper company, it seems like only a few people will choose that because the profits they get are less than investing in bitcoin.

Saran om rico ane rasa udah pas, judulnya juga udah oke menurut ane. Cuma penasaran aja apa ga ada kasus di Indo alias kasus lokal yang bisa dijadikan contoh dan apakah kita bisa memproses pelaku yang bersangkutan, jadi ada dorongan buat orang lapor kalau nemu kasus serupa. Kalau ga salah di thread lain pernah ada cerita member yang berusaha buat nasihatin atau ngasih tahu kemungkinan MLM/penipuan berkedok kripto tapi ujungnya ga ada proses hukum alias korban dapet rugi saja. Cuma kalau dirasa udah agak meluas sih mungkin ga perlu sampai kesitu juga, cuma diambil nama proyek/kasusnya aja buat bahan bacaan.

Intinya mengenali model scam terkait cryptocurrency, jadi kalaupun misalkan kedepannya ditemukan ada proyek yang mirip-mirip cara kerjanya baik itu dari lokal ataupun luar, minimalnya (untuk diri sendiri) bisa lebih aware kalau itu kemungkinan berujung scam.

Sementara perihal apakah selanjutnya pelaku scam bisa diproses hukum dll. saya kira itu bahasannya sudah meluas.

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Btw, Onecoin dari yang saya baca, punya nama lain, yakni Onelife* dan pernah bergerak juga di Indonesia: http://onelife.co.id - situsnya sudah tidak ada namun tadi sempat browsing dan menemukan informasi lainnya di https://www.facebook.com/onelifeglobal/?locale=id_ID (bisa dilihat bagaimana tulisan mereka masih saja meyakinkan orang lain bahwa tuduhan penipuan yang di alamatkan ke mereka tidaklah benar).

* https://bitcoinmedia.id/mantan-member-onecoin-galang-petisi-tutup-onecoin-dan-onelife/

coin salınımı çok ince bir detaya sahip, ben çok beğendim, bitcoin'de kimsenin olaydan haberi yokken çatır çutur dağıtılmış gibi bir durum var, musluklardan tek tıka 50 btc alanlar var ve bu durum birçok kişi için büyük bir hayal kırıklığıdır... hac bunu ortadan kaldıran bir salınıma sahip ve bu benim hoşuma gitti...

biraz btc atıp hold etsem alacağım diamondlara ek olarak btc'leri mi de kilitlemiş olacağım ama sistem kaynaklı sorunlar oluşabilir ve benim btclerim buhar olur korkusu var içimde...

peşin edit: btc atacağım, btc'lerim şöyle böyle olur dediğim detay, sıfır virgül birkaç sıfırdan sonra görünür hale gelen kırıntılardır, btclerim ifadesi genel maksadı ile eklenmiştir.

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The truth is that I have never had experience with casinos that are through telegram, it is something strange because I have always been in contact on telegram but it is like something strange to play like that, the truth is that one day I tried to get into one but I did not feel confident, so it is preferable to be in casino euqe it is normal that they have their own App and that they can establish a higher degree of trust for anyone who wants to enter and make their own strategy normally, but based on the fact that it is a reliable, well-known casino, with a good reputation, it is difficult to really trust in casinos like this, because I always take into consideration that Ann has a thread on btt or even here on altcoinstalk, but otherwise I don't trust casinos that are of that style.

 I am not also comfortable with telegram casino reason being that telegram platform so far has been a hub for scammers who can easily swindle people to take possession of their assets but I was looking at it this way if casinos should have that telegram aspect as an option for those who deem it fit for them to play there and also have an app for gamblers who would also find it conducive for themselves and for those who are okay playing on their website can do that as well. On my own, I think it would not be conducive for me until I do some findings in the telegram casino before I can be fully convinced because of the experience I have had in the past.

What happens is that things now with Telegram have been greatly affected by the issue of scammers, almost no one trusts Telegram Anymore because for them it is likely that they can be stolen and that is something that everyone is on the defensive About this  When I see that there are more messages from people who do not identify themselves or Something like that, it is a reason to be alarmed, and to be very careful, I don't know if these people suddenly launch an encrypted program just by saying hello and stealing data or something like that , now the thing It is very focused on this type of scam and although my phone does not handle wllets or anything related to money, I Still think that you have to be careful.

That's why everything about the casino on Telegram is something that doesn't suit me and I wouldn't know how to play because it would be somewhat uncomfortable.

No one really trust telegram anymore because of the activities of scammers out there who have infiltrated the platform with their nefarious act. Imagine you playing on telegram casino  and win and all of a sudden, you can not log into your account or you discovered that your account is logged in elsewhere where on another device  and your assets and funds are drained without your knowledge how would you feel. It would be very devastating and frustrating because you can not be able to do anything and maybe the casino have no guarantee of being able to restore your fund's and assets stolen.

I better save myself the stress of losing my funds and assets than to get into a mess and mistake I can hardly solve or think of banking on the casino to come to my rescue when they themselves can not guarantee as well.

Wait to see how they develop, what Whitepaper they have , how things can happen, If that is not Clear to me , then things can change for the worse , I deal with these things because many things have happened in casinos, and it is something that must be seen and with that, have a lot of moderation when investing money.

I think one waiting to see how the casino develops is a good measure to ones safety so as not to fall victim of scams. When a project or casino is at the earliest stage of development, they sometimes need investors who would come to invest in their project and In some cases, they decide to open their casino if I am not mistaken so they could start generating funds when they know that their casino is not fully developed to run. Little wonder sometimes they have bugs and when gamblers discover it sometimes they take advantage of the casino loophole to undo them. Likewise the casino too sometimes takes advantage of the gamblers ignorance and negligence too.

In all,  one needs to take time to do their own delligence before engaging in or with any casino they deem fit gambling with as it would be very disappointing to hear stories after depositing or winning and being refused or denied withdrawal.