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Karma 0 = your rank will go up
« on: May 21, 2021, 02:22:11 PM »
Hi,

here I am with another of my stupid ideas...

I see every day how many users with negative karma do absolutely nothing to improve it, some do not even realize it, but most do not care, especially those who are only interested in participating in the bounties, a user told me that when he gets a high rank he will stop posting shit (already warned).

Is it possible to associate karma with increasing rank?. That the minimum karma to rank up is at least 0 or more?.

Thanks to everyone who reads me :o.
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Re: Karma 0 = your rank will go up
« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2021, 04:08:03 PM »
I think it could be reasonable at least for ranks over Member. If someone spams forum and disturbs others a lot it is not good to send a signal that misbehaving is okay in our forum. Being a friendly forum means preventing misbehaving also. IMHO. :)
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Re: Karma 0 = your rank will go up
« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2021, 09:20:32 PM »
I think Hero and above requires non-negative karma, but could be wrong. There has always been the sentiment here that general ranks will not determined by karma, to avoid a karma-based rank system, which over the years I've learnt to agree with (admin's principles). Ideally, bounties should merely enclude members with negative karma, thus high rank would be of no value with -K. This would solve the problem and make the issue of rank less relevant.

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Re: Karma 0 = your rank will go up
« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2021, 11:25:21 AM »
~ a user told me that when he gets a high rank he will stop posting shit (already warned).
It's one thing to make many posts in a day to try to rank up quickly. It's a different matter when you post complete shit to pad up activity. Can you share profile of this user? Perhaps I could dish out -K as well.

Is it possible to associate karma with increasing rank?. That the minimum karma to rank up is at least 0 or more?.
It's already part of the ranking system but I still don't know how it's calculated. IIRC, no details were provided by admin other than online days + karma.

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Re: Karma 0 = your rank will go up
« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2021, 01:03:22 PM »
~ a user told me that when he gets a high rank he will stop posting shit (already warned).
It's one thing to make many posts in a day to try to rank up quickly. It's a different matter when you post complete shit to pad up activity. Can you share profile of this user? Perhaps I could dish out -K as well.

Is it possible to associate karma with increasing rank?. That the minimum karma to rank up is at least 0 or more?.
It's already part of the ranking system but I still don't know how it's calculated. IIRC, no details were provided by admin other than online days + karma.

The user's profile is this: https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=80213. I warned him through PM and he answered me what is seen in the report, I do not know whether to laugh or cry.

It may already be associated with karma (not sure), but it doesn't seem to work.
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Re: Karma 0 = your rank will go up
« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2023, 12:48:50 AM »
I think it could be reasonable at least for ranks over Member. If someone spams forum and disturbs others a lot it is not good to send a signal that misbehaving is okay in our forum. Being a friendly forum means preventing misbehaving also. IMHO. :)
I think a forum with much freedom for newbies will encourage growth as many other newbies will tend to register. Also, the forum has a way to combat spam for beginners and that is solving some mathematical problems each time you want to post. Extending for more time before it disappears may help.

As against Op suggestion, if karma is attached to ranking up just as merit in BTT, it will create room for karma abuse.
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Re: Karma 0 = your rank will go up
« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2023, 03:41:07 AM »
As against Op suggestion, if karma is attached to ranking up just as merit in BTT, it will create room for karma abuse.

What was suggested is to prevent rank up of those who have negative balance of karma, it is totally not the same as merit system. And we don’t know exactly what the requirements for the highest ranks are.

As for karma abuse, it can lead to unpleasant penalties, so if some will try they'll get a chance to see that it was a bad idea.
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Re: Karma 0 = your rank will go up
« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2023, 03:41:07 AM »


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Re: Karma 0 = your rank will go up
« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2024, 02:23:39 PM »
I think a forum with much freedom for newbies will encourage growth as many other newbies will tend to register. Also, the forum has a way to combat spam for beginners and that is solving some mathematical problems each time you want to post. Extending for more time before it disappears may help.

As against Op suggestion, if karma is attached to ranking up just as merit in BTT, it will create room for karma abuse.

My original idea was not that, It is not about converting karma into the BTT merit system. As you well know, karma is not necessary here for the accounts to grow. I was referring to a measure against aggressive spam that we have been fighting against in this forum (with a lot of frustration) for quite some time, fortunately we have the moderating machine known as @Jokers.

Anyway, the idea received almost no attention as you can see and I'm not sure it was something easy to implement on the forum either.
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Re: Karma 0 = your rank will go up
« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2024, 10:11:41 PM »
~ a user told me that when he gets a high rank he will stop posting shit (already warned).
It's one thing to make many posts in a day to try to rank up quickly. It's a different matter when you post complete shit to pad up activity.
Truly but I guess as the forum continues to grow there will also be at least few good members that would support in the community service of bursting spammers and this is simply to reduce because in a nutshell the merit system in btt didn't really stop spammers though tit reduce it but there are still more spammers and is the job for volunteering members of the Forum to get them.
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Re: Karma 0 = your rank will go up
« Reply #9 on: January 15, 2024, 06:47:42 AM »
Karma system probably doesn't play any role in rank up as here only post increase increases rank. But I don't know much about the working of Karma system but maybe Karma system was invented to mean post quality.

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Re: Karma 0 = your rank will go up
« Reply #10 on: January 16, 2024, 09:03:13 PM »
Truly but I guess as the forum continues to grow there will also be at least few good members that would support in the community service of bursting spammers and this is simply to reduce because in a nutshell the merit system in btt didn't really stop spammers though tit reduce it but there are still more spammers and is the job for volunteering members of the Forum to get them.

I agree. For a few weeks now, with the growth we are currently observing, there are some users who are concerned about the quality of the posts and the forum in general, reporting LQP (Low Quality Post). It is something that I will always appreciate since these users not only care about the quality of the forum, but it also makes the work of the moderators easier when those posts have to be deleted or we have to warn or advise a user.
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Re: Karma 0 = your rank will go up
« Reply #11 on: January 17, 2024, 12:04:31 AM »
I think a forum with much freedom for newbies will encourage growth as many other newbies will tend to register. Also, the forum has a way to combat spam for beginners and that is solving some mathematical problems each time you want to post. Extending for more time before it disappears may help.

As against Op suggestion, if karma is attached to ranking up just as merit in BTT, it will create room for karma abuse.

My original idea was not that, It is not about converting karma into the BTT merit system. As you well know, karma is not necessary here for the accounts to grow. I was referring to a measure against aggressive spam that we have been fighting against in this forum (with a lot of frustration) for quite some time, fortunately we have the moderating machine known as @Jokers.

Anyway, the idea received almost no attention as you can see and I'm not sure it was something easy to implement on the forum either.
Maybe this idea could be implemented in the future. One thing about implementations is that the more things you implement, the more need for moderation. Now that many bounty managers have joined this forum, they will be the ones to help the forum fight spam. They will do this by only hiring people who do not spam or dismissing people who spams.
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Re: Karma 0 = your rank will go up
« Reply #12 on: January 19, 2024, 08:40:34 PM »
Karma system probably doesn't play any role in rank up as here only post increase increases rank. But I don't know much about the working of Karma system but maybe Karma system was invented to mean post quality.

Exactly @LDL, karma is not related to users' rank, but I thought it might be. Karma is a way to "reward" or "punish" a user for the quality of their posts. My original idea was to make a user's rank only grow if their karma was 0 (neutral). In this way, users would make an effort to write posts with more content and quality, which is what a community and a forum need to attract new users. Just an "idea" to try to improve the overall quality. Maybe in the (not too distant) future we can implement something similar.
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Re: Karma 0 = your rank will go up
« Reply #13 on: January 26, 2024, 03:01:26 AM »
It really is the user's knowledge and informative posts that determine who a member is. Karma isn't necessary just to rank up, but you're blessed if others cool off and gift you with positive karma. There is no positive and negative karma matter comments which will be judged by unique members, if members like it they will definitely gift us as a gift.
Our main goal here is to live with confidence, we have lived with this forum for a long time.

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Re: Karma 0 = your rank will go up
« Reply #14 on: January 29, 2024, 10:26:02 AM »
Our main goal here is to live with confidence, we have lived with this forum for a long time.
Unfortunately, many members believe they are being misused, for example making posts by copying and pasting but not providing the source.
Or they are confident like replying to a topic but using AI features, this may be possible but replying using AI tends to be unconstructive. This is my Opinion. :)
After they make a mistake, they are then reprimanded by all the Modz and given -Karma but these members are confident and do things repeatedly with Spam or Plagiarism mistakes.
Many members believe themselves to be strong and have a good attitude towards the forum, but there are also members who believe themselves to be strong but their attitude is not good, that's how life is in the digital world and we have to try to be better at obeying the rules in the altcoinstalks forum. :)

 

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