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Is it possible to check ?
« on: April 08, 2024, 08:54:06 PM »
I don't know if I repeating the question if ask before here.
I just wanna know that is it possible to do check the user avatar and signature wearing log?
It can be any tools or anything added up on the forum what can show user's signature logs? I can be plus point for the campaign managers to monitoring his campaign.

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Is it possible to check ?
« on: April 08, 2024, 08:54:06 PM »

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Re: Is it possible to check ?
« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2024, 11:03:25 PM »
I don't know if I repeating the question if ask before here.
I just wanna know that is it possible to do check the user avatar and signature wearing log?
I never saw this was possible in other forums and it should not be any different here, but why would you need such thing?
Scraping and archiving all this data from profiles would take serious time and space, and members are changing signatures and profile images all the time.
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Re: Is it possible to check ?
« Reply #2 on: April 09, 2024, 12:05:21 AM »
I don't know if I repeating the question if ask before here.
I just wanna know that is it possible to do check the user avatar and signature wearing log?
I never saw this was possible in other forums and it should not be any different here, but why would you need such thing?
Scraping and archiving all this data from profiles would take serious time and space, and members are changing signatures and profile images all the time.

I think PX-Z might be scraping this data, or maybe he can start doing so.

I don't see much use for this kind of data. Maybe for campaign managers? But even for them, i don't see much users cheating (like changing signature/avatar during campaign and trying to get paid)
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Re: Is it possible to check ?
« Reply #3 on: April 09, 2024, 12:33:51 AM »
I don't see much use for this kind of data. Maybe for campaign managers? But even for them, i don't see much users cheating (like changing signature/avatar during campaign and trying to get paid)
As Bitmover said, this is not a pressing issue to the community. If such tool exists, it will be of more help to campaign managers and the number of campaigns and campaign participants is not very large that it will become untrackable by the manager. In the other forum, a project hired upto 100 participants and still track them. The case of cheating by swapping signature doesn't happen often. All through my stay in the other forum, I think it happened just twice. To me, removing and wearing signature here is not an easy task, although nothing is difficult for a cheat.
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Re: Is it possible to check ?
« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2024, 12:42:45 AM »
I don't expect this to be possible, I don't know if this is available in the admin logs either because I expect it requires special tools.

But why would this be important to campaign managers? I mean what would campaign managers gain from tracking a user's avatar history and signature wear history? This will be an additional burden on them and will not be of much benefit, I think.

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Re: Is it possible to check ?
« Reply #5 on: April 09, 2024, 01:52:22 AM »
I didn't scrape this data but i can. Although yes, this will eat much storage but its feasible. If campaign manager/s somewhat need it.

But with the help of the community, reporting it to the manager will probably help just like what others do in bitcointalk, screenshots will help.
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Re: Is it possible to check ?
« Reply #6 on: April 09, 2024, 06:24:15 AM »
Yes, I believe it's possible to do and if you read the above comment of PX-Z then you can see that he's able to do that. But, I don't think that there is any need of such type of scrapping but if  some managers find it useful then I'm very sure that PX-Z is the one who could help with such logs.

He has already made some good tools for this forum and for Bitcointalk that many of us find helpful, and I'm very sure if some managers ask for such tool then he may make that for them without any hesitation.
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Re: Is it possible to check ?
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« Reply #7 on: April 09, 2024, 03:27:59 PM »
I didn't scrape this data but i can. Although yes, this will eat much storage but its feasible. If campaign manager/s somewhat need it.

But with the help of the community, reporting it to the manager will probably help just like what others do in bitcointalk, screenshots will help.

If I am not wrong Loycev offered such services to the campaign managers in BTT to find the cheaters who is abusing the campaigns by switching codes on the post counting day and he offered it for a paid subscription that cheaters get caught. So you can try to offer the same and managers will love to such and will not encourage abusers to take part in their campaign.
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Re: Is it possible to check ?
« Reply #8 on: April 11, 2024, 07:54:29 PM »
Right now there is no tool for that (I don't know if the forum software comes with some kind of default tool for this purpose or if some script can be loaded). But I guess @PX-Z could do something if he could. If he needed any kind of special permission to access the logs, he would simply have to talk to the administrator. In these cases, before starting to work on a new tool, it is best to ask the administrator if something is already available.
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Re: Is it possible to check ?
« Reply #9 on: April 12, 2024, 12:17:32 PM »
If there were more campaigns and competition between payrates, there might be a use for this tool. I don't really think anyone is going to risk their spot in a campaign at this point though.
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Re: Is it possible to check ?
« Reply #10 on: April 12, 2024, 01:25:58 PM »
If there were more campaigns and competition between payrates, there might be a use for this tool. I don't really think anyone is going to risk their spot in a campaign at this point though.

I agree. We are a very small community with very few active campaigns
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Re: Is it possible to check ?
« Reply #11 on: April 12, 2024, 04:24:08 PM »
Based on my experience, users/participants of a signature campaign are quite proactive in reporting a cheater in a campaign that they're participating in. At least I remember one case where a forum member reported another member changing his signature but claimed they didn't do that. Cases like this one are pretty rare though, and judging from how most campaign managers conduct their campaign on Bitcointalk, they may not feel the urgency to have a tool like this. If there are plans to make one and integrate it into this forum, maybe we can shorten the logs to 7-8 days so the resources to manage it are not that big.

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Re: Is it possible to check ?
« Reply #12 on: April 13, 2024, 10:38:38 AM »
Based on my experience, users/participants of a signature campaign are quite proactive in reporting a cheater in a campaign that they're participating in. At least I remember one case where a forum member reported another member changing his signature but claimed they didn't do that. Cases like this one are pretty rare though, and judging from how most campaign managers conduct their campaign on Bitcointalk, they may not feel the urgency to have a tool like this. If there are plans to make one and integrate it into this forum, maybe we can shorten the logs to 7-8 days so the resources to manage it are not that big.

If a user changes their signature and avatar while participating in another campaign, it's as easy as taking a screenshot of that user's last post and sending it to the campaign manager, and if there are several users who send screenshots better, that will dispel any type of doubt. It would be much easier to use a log where the campaign manager could compare all the users enrolled in their campaigns (something that would increase the load on the server even minimally, which worries the administrator), but at the moment we do not have that tool.
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Re: Is it possible to check ?
« Reply #13 on: April 14, 2024, 10:07:28 PM »
I don't know if I repeating the question if ask before here.
I just wanna know that is it possible to do check the user avatar and signature wearing log?
It can be any tools or anything added up on the forum what can show user's signature logs? I can be plus point for the campaign managers to monitoring his campaign.
Well, this a completely new idea, as I personally have never come across or heard of any of such tools, even in the other forums that I am a user of.

I agree though, and I also think it will be a very helpful tool for campaign managers, as it will help them to monitor a user and see or when the user changed his or her signature, such a tool can be used to catch signature campaign cheaters easily, those who participate in two different campaigns at the same time and switch signatures at the end of each campaign quota so as to quality for payment.

If it's possible, I believe this is a tool any user can build for the community, personally, I don't have any experience with coding, I would have loved to devote myself to making sure such tool is built and made available for the forums to use.
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Re: Is it possible to check ?
« Reply #14 on: April 14, 2024, 11:20:21 PM »

a telegram bot might be able to do that but the campaigns must require participants to activate the telegram bot which is an addition to what participants will do. that bot will check everynow and then for the avatar and the siggy and in case they remove it then the bot will log it that the user for a time being had removed them.

a telegram coder i guess is needed for it.  there is  telegram notifier in the forum. i think the campaign can contact that coder to make something like this for the campaign.

 

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