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Further Discussions => Economics , Sociology & Politics => Topic started by: sologub on January 11, 2021, 08:58:25 PM
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Is your social media account yours?
I am very interested in the issue of owning an account on a social network. Should the account belong to the person who registered it or is it the property of the company that owns the platform? Let's think it over.
Some people, for example, invest in design, promotion and content creation for their account. If we assume that the account does not belong to a person, then it turns out that his investments are very doubtful. If we assume that a person's account is his property, then we need a mechanism to hold them accountable for displaying prohibited content.
Let's try to compare a social media account and a house (an ordinary house, or an apartment that you own). If you posted on your house a call to violence in letters that are visible from many meters away, the police would come (after the complaint) to you. Home is yours, no one questions it. But you will be asked to withdraw the call. In this case, you are sure that your house will not be demolished, even if you refuse to withdraw the call. Other sanctions will follow, but your house will remain standing even if you go to jail for a ride to resist the police.
What do you think of it?
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I initially felt, how would you borrow someone social media account to make campaign and you will have constant access to the account such that you will fulfil your assignments here accordingly.but I remember some people use to hack account to get it done.
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Yes it's mine full time.
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Is your social media account yours?
I am very interested in the issue of owning an account on a social network. Should the account belong to the person who registered it or is it the property of the company that owns the platform? Let's think it over.
Some people, for example, invest in design, promotion and content creation for their account. If we assume that the account does not belong to a person, then it turns out that his investments are very doubtful. If we assume that a person's account is his property, then we need a mechanism to hold them accountable for displaying prohibited content.
Let's try to compare a social media account and a house (an ordinary house, or an apartment that you own). If you posted on your house a call to violence in letters that are visible from many meters away, the police would come (after the complaint) to you. Home is yours, no one questions it. But you will be asked to withdraw the call. In this case, you are sure that your house will not be demolished, even if you refuse to withdraw the call. Other sanctions will follow, but your house will remain standing even if you go to jail for a ride to resist the police.
What do you think of it?
Just read the Offer/Contract/EULA and you will realize - NO, you do not own your account. When you register online you often check the box "I agree to the terms of use". But a fraction of a percent, follow the link to that document and read it. And believe me, there's a lot of "interesting" stuff in there. If you read it, then with a high probability you will learn - that everything that is on the site (your posts, your data, your photos and videos, ...) belong to.... not to you, but to the company that owns this social network/platform. Even if it is not written in big letters in the first paragraph "User Rights", it will be written in the document implicitly or implicitly.
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But having social media and having an apartment/house are two different things. When you own a house/apartment then you have a contract before you occupy it. The contract explains that you are the permanent/contractual owner of the house/apartment and you have full rights to the place.
Meanwhile, when you have a social media account, even though the account represents you, the account is not actually yours, because there is an agreement at the beginning which states that the platform has the full right to limit or close the account if there are things that are not in line with their regulations. So even though we have the right to post or various other activities using our account, the platform has full rights to that account.
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Yes, is my if it is been registered by me! But I know one day it won’t be my again or even be bound from using it after a several years of not being login on it, which can either be of my death, or notice to have been hacked by hackers, will wish to dump it for another one to avoid being Manipulated. This my own view in the said topic.
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But having social media and having an apartment/house are two different things. When you own a house/apartment then you have a contract before you occupy it. The contract explains that you are the permanent/contractual owner of the house/apartment and you have full rights to the place.
Meanwhile, when you have a social media account, even though the account represents you, the account is not actually yours, because there is an agreement at the beginning which states that the platform has the full right to limit or close the account if there are things that are not in line with their regulations. So even though we have the right to post or various other activities using our account, the platform has full rights to that account.
This is exactly what I was talking about a little earlier! All users of social networks, having created an account there are not OWNERS, we are all RENTERS of some services ! And the biggest problem is that:
1. 99,99 did not read the license agreement
2. All rights to the content that you create belong, according to the same license agreement, to the owner of this social network !
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Yes, it is mine. I opened it and have been operating it. So far so good. Any post or comment from this account is from me. If incidentally it is hacked, the needful should be report to admins and also announce to the public so as to prevent hackers from scamming other people with it.
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OP, I think I read you correctly and I perfectly understand your point. What I want you to know is that the social medias are centralized platforms which operates on different rules, terms and policies. Those customer (individuals) who create accounts on those social media are only there to there to be regulated by the terms and policy of that company, if you don't agree with those terms, then don't create account. If you create account and violate any of their terms, you may put your account at risk. Centralized platforms usually have authorities that are in charge, so I don't see any confusion here mahn.
The account you have on social media is yours and can be yours for lifetime as long as you don't violate any other the platform's rules. I have been using my Facebook account for more than 8 years now and it's just there.
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But having social media and having an apartment/house are two different things. When you own a house/apartment then you have a contract before you occupy it. The contract explains that you are the permanent/contractual owner of the house/apartment and you have full rights to the place.
Meanwhile, when you have a social media account, even though the account represents you, the account is not actually yours, because there is an agreement at the beginning which states that the platform has the full right to limit or close the account if there are things that are not in line with their regulations. So even though we have the right to post or various other activities using our account, the platform has full rights to that account.
This is exactly what I was talking about a little earlier! All users of social networks, having created an account there are not OWNERS, we are all RENTERS of some services ! And the biggest problem is that:
1. 99,99 did not read the license agreement
2. All rights to the content that you create belong, according to the same license agreement, to the owner of this social network !
I agree and this is the reason why instead of creating a normal and legit account I prefer mine as dummy ones on social media. 😅 And I don't get it when OP compare or make house as an example in relation to the socmed accounts we own as we all know they are totally different.
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But having social media and having an apartment/house are two different things. When you own a house/apartment then you have a contract before you occupy it. The contract explains that you are the permanent/contractual owner of the house/apartment and you have full rights to the place.
Meanwhile, when you have a social media account, even though the account represents you, the account is not actually yours, because there is an agreement at the beginning which states that the platform has the full right to limit or close the account if there are things that are not in line with their regulations. So even though we have the right to post or various other activities using our account, the platform has full rights to that account.
This is exactly what I was talking about a little earlier! All users of social networks, having created an account there are not OWNERS, we are all RENTERS of some services ! And the biggest problem is that:
1. 99,99 did not read the license agreement
2. All rights to the content that you create belong, according to the same license agreement, to the owner of this social network !
I agree and this is the reason why instead of creating a normal and legit account I prefer mine as dummy ones on social media. 😅 And I don't get it when OP compare or make house as an example in relation to the socmed accounts we own as we all know they are totally different.
I agree that social networks should not give away their real data, considering how and for what purpose they started researching them. In the initial stages, yes, it was a delight, the opportunity to find your neighbors from childhood, classmates at school, classmates at the institute, former employees and in general people with whom you have long lost touch but would like to find. That's how it was at the start. But then social networks began to use the accumulated data. And they began to use them not only for basic advertising, according to my interests, but also my correspondence, personal data, etc., went into "work". And I didn't like it. That's why I still have 1 real account in one social network, and it remained only for searching people. I do not use this network constantly or even often, so, occasionally, when there is a need to find someone from the people.... This is the end of my relationship with social networks through my real data.
Forums and other resources are tied to absolutely virtual data....
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What do you think of it?
Your illustration is buyable and considerate. If a tenant in a landlords house does something atrocious and could not be found, the landlord who wasn't part of the action would be questionable.
About owning an online account in a site, I keep saying this on repeated note even across the radio stations and other means that speculates public infos that they should verily verified individuals which tends to influence the audience in any form either by adverts, entertainment or otherwise because most audience falls victims in different ways due to the fact that they believe such communication sites or stations are reputable and trustworthy and so, whatever that comes out or through them are legit and trusted. But these sites are either not after the welfares of the audiences neither are they firm to reputable clients to their sites. All they just wanted over and over is making the incomes and yet, obviously running an untransperency operational system between them, the clients and the audiences. All just so selfish.
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If you post on almost any blog or social media you are pretty much giving the content away.
Which is why have a signature is a decent idea as the coins you get pay something to your ideas and content.
"Speaking of content I just watched Astrid on amazon if was 9 episodes in French dubbed with subtitles.
I liked it and recommend watching on amazon prime for free." The quotes are my opinion and review which I do not own anymore I gave it away. But not for free as I have a signature.
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Of course it's mine full time.
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Of course it's mine full time.
Hmm, not actually I may own it now but with time it won't be my again, that is in the case of my death, that is because am the only one that have access to it unless may be I disclose it to my kids or love ones when I was alive then they can be able to access it and gain or learn from it also to be able to have full control of everything pertaining to it when am not more. So it's sometimes good to share some of your secrets with your child expecially if he or she is next of your kin. But also be extra ordinary careful because now are days some children are so awesome that they will do something that even you the parents will never expect such from them. So my social media is my now but with time it won't be my again.
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Yes it is mine l, and I have been operating with it ...
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Yeah my password and name is mine, but I do not fully control it. I AM SUBJECT TO WEBSITE RESTRICTIONS. I can no longer say use a mixer on bitcointalk.org. The website bans it.
That is one example of what they do to my account.
On this website I can't lock an out of date thread that is one example of this websites control of my account.
the lists are longer but they show I have partial control not full control of philipma1957 at both altcoinstalks.com and bitcointalk.org
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Hmm, not actually I may own it now but with time it won't be my again, that is in the case of my death, that is because am the only one that have access to it unless may be I disclose it to my kids or love ones when I was alive then they can be able to access it and gain or learn from it also to be able to have full control of everything pertaining to it when am not more. So it's sometimes good to share some of your secrets with your child expecially if he or she is next of your kin. But also be extra ordinary careful because now are days some children are so awesome that they will do something that even you the parents will never expect such from them. So my social media is my now but with time it won't be my again.
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I don't think we are to consider this factor, because when creating any social media accounts, there are some terms and conditions which you as the user will accept, and by accepting that, the account belongs to you and you will have full control over it, except you shear your logins to someone.
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Owning an account. Is it like the decentralization that you want to do? I'm getting that vibe. It's really yours unlike the ones in the current social media thing that it's yours but you are not the owner of the things there.
I saw some projects that are building social media now in the cryptocurrency space. I'm not completely sure how it works but I have read it.
Are those kinds of projects you are talking about?
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Is your social media account yours?
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What do you think of it?
I could say i own it but the platform has full control of it like if they want to ban it then they could do it.
Something like a custodial wallet where i have the address but have no control of the company, that's how i view my social media account.
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Is your social media account yours?
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What do you think of it?
I could say i own it but the platform has full control of it like if they want to ban it then they could do it.
Something like a custodial wallet where i have the address but have no control of the company, that's how i view my social media account.
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I wonder if someone has to make a decentralized social networking site or is there an existing one? Just like how we did it with our cryptocurrency wallets with private keys. 😅