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Title: Government Lotteries are a Scam!
Post by: notblox1 on February 03, 2024, 12:42:52 AM
This may be hard to accept but I watched a great video explaining how government Lotteries are literally a SCAM and I fully agree with that.

It was not enough for them to extort all the taxes from people so they created this scheme of milking more money from poor people.

Statistics say that  you have better chance of  being killed by vending machine than winning the lottery



Just ignore all ads in this video  ;D
Title: Re: Government Lotteries are a Scam!
Post by: robelneo on February 03, 2024, 03:43:27 PM
The government takes everything when they are the one running the lotteries, they tax the bets deduct 20% from the winners, and cheat and manipulate the results when the prize skyrockets because in our country the winner/winners are not allowed to show their faces to protect themselves, because of this they can connive and make it appear there's already a winner and when there is none yet.
Our lawmakers are doing investigations right now, but there's a growing concern that there is cheating and manipulation on the results but of course, they will do everything to conceal it.
Title: Re: Government Lotteries are a Scam!
Post by: Cryptsafe on February 03, 2024, 08:01:40 PM
It is obvious that the government no longer have the trust of their citizens as a result of their insincerity. I have never seen any where were a citizen speaks something positive of their government. It is always negative So I would not be surprised if the case here is still against the government. The rate at which corrupt practices are being abetted by government officials,  is not encouraging. Little wonder citizens no longer trust or depend on the government because of what they do.
Title: Re: Government Lotteries are a Scam!
Post by: notblox1 on February 03, 2024, 11:38:55 PM
The government takes everything when they are the one running the lotteries, they tax the bets deduct 20% from the winners
I think tax deduction can be even higher than 20% in some countries.
They sell lottery tickets to everyone with tax, they collect all the money and they charge tax again, brilliant scheme ;D

It is obvious that the government no longer have the trust of their citizens as a result of their insincerity. I have never seen any where were a citizen speaks something positive of their government.
No need to speak good or bad about any government, just look at the facts and numbers.
They are pretending to want protection of people from gambling with different laws and limitations, and in same time they are promoting state lottery gambling ripoff scheme.
Dont buy their tickets and dont participate in their lotteries.
Title: Re: Government Lotteries are a Scam!
Post by: Altcoin1998$ on February 04, 2024, 03:36:56 AM
This is basically if the government releases lottery tickets for special events, there is no system of cheating in the case of lottery on the occasion of Independence Day, lottery on the occasion of World Cancer Day, lottery on the occasion of World Mother's Day, lottery on the occasion of World Environment Day. No cheating by the government in these cases.  There is no chance to do it but if any organization is selling lottery on behalf of the government outside of these working days, there is certainly a possibility of cheating.
In my country there are occasional cases of scam lottery sales and news of millions of dollars being stolen from the common man.  If legal measures are taken in this case, then no decision is taken by the government, then it is evident that the government has a big contribution in scamming.
Title: Re: Government Lotteries are a Scam!
Post by: Zed0X on February 04, 2024, 09:39:51 AM
The video would have been better if not sponsored by another lottery. Anyway, it's not the type of scam that I was expecting.

From where I'm from, there's a conspiracy theory that our National Lottery (Philippine Charity Sweepstakes Office) is being used to fund the current Government's attempt to change our constitution (as a bribe). I don't blame them because there has been a surge of winners from last year to present. Almost every week, you see one lucky winning ticket. There are suspicions that majority of those winners are fake/accomplice. Recently, the PCSO was even caught editing a picture of a supposed winner. Last year, they were also questioned about the 433 people that won the jackpot (the same draw).
Title: Re: Government Lotteries are a Scam!
Post by: LDL on February 04, 2024, 12:00:53 PM
It was not enough for them to extort all the taxes from people so they created this scheme of milking more money from poor people.
It is a type of oppression of the government because the government collects money from the people in various ways even after taking taxes from the people. Maybe giving such a lottery to the government is an alternative method of collecting such a tax.
In my country also the government organizes various such lotteries but till date I have not seen the draw of that lottery then I will assume it is some kind of scamming by the government.
Title: Re: Government Lotteries are a Scam!
Post by: Mr. Magkaisa on February 04, 2024, 04:38:26 PM
        -   If we expand our understanding, that can happen. Especially if, for example, the sitting highest official in the lotteries is a corrupt person. Apart from the fact that the tax that they will deduct from the amount that will be won in the lottery is already large, they can even release that the winner is not known to them, but the truth is that it could be a distant relative of the official.

This is just my guess of what a leading official in the government lottery can do, but if the people know about it, it is sure that the people will encourage them in that regard. And maybe no one bought the lottery because of that system if that is true.
Title: Re: Government Lotteries are a Scam!
Post by: Stompix on February 04, 2024, 04:56:15 PM
This may be hard to accept but I watched a great video explaining how government Lotteries are literally a SCAM and I fully agree with that.

Why is it a scam?
Did they promise you will definitely win?
Did they guarantee you a prize when you bought a ticket?
Did they force you to pay for a ticket?

If the lottery is a scam than every gambling website or a casino is scam!

And if we go by the thing that the lottery holder is making money why the majority loses, then, the stock market is a scam, crypto trading is  scam as Binance and Okex make money no matter if you win or lose from your trades, and they don't guarantee you anything either!

Just ignore all ads in this video  ;D

Like this one?

(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/02/04/vnOvf.png)

How do you want me to treat seriously a video about how bad lotteries are that promotes a $10 million chance lottery and guaranteed 4.5% APY while screaming lotteries are bad?
Title: Re: Government Lotteries are a Scam!
Post by: Perfect540 on February 04, 2024, 06:49:53 PM
If the lottery is a scam than every gambling website or a casino is scam!

All lotteries that only sell but do not draw are lottery scams.  If it is sold or supplied by the government then it is considered a government lottery scam. However, both gambling and lottery are of the same type, so there is a possibility of scamming in both cases.
I participated in a government lottery and the government again took the price of the lottery ticket amounting to five dollars from me but two years ago today the lottery was supposed to be drawn but till now the lottery has not been drawn.  So I don't declare it as Scamming?
Title: Re: Government Lotteries are a Scam!
Post by: Stompix on February 04, 2024, 07:05:26 PM
I participated in a government lottery and the government again took the price of the lottery ticket amounting to five dollars from me but two years ago today the lottery was supposed to be drawn but till now the lottery has not been drawn.  So I don't declare it as Scamming?

In this case yes, of course!
But a certain lottery not being hold in a county doesn't make all of them a scam!
If the guys behind Powerball would keep selling tickets but never hold a draw or never give the price to the winner then it would be a scam and a lot of people would go to jail but that's not the case here.

The guy in the video is talking like every single one of them even those that award prizes are scams, and I don't think this is true, you're gambling, lottery or roulette or slots and their advertised jackpot, there is no difference!
Title: Re: Government Lotteries are a Scam!
Post by: Cryptsafe on February 04, 2024, 11:22:01 PM

It is obvious that the government no longer have the trust of their citizens as a result of their insincerity. I have never seen any where were a citizen speaks something positive of their government.
No need to speak good or bad about any government, just look at the facts and numbers.
They are pretending to want protection of people from gambling with different laws and limitations, and in same time they are promoting state lottery gambling ripoff scheme.
Dont buy their tickets and dont participate in their lotteries.

The government has no place in my space. I really do not think they are sincere with their dealings with their citizens. You could imagine them ripping off citizens through tax payment and again setting up a lottery ticket scheme were they have already manipulate the whole process by putting their lackies and cronies to take everything remaining through the setup and cleanup everything for nobody to know what they did.
Title: Re: Government Lotteries are a Scam!
Post by: notblox1 on February 05, 2024, 08:21:43 PM
The video would have been better if not sponsored by another lottery.
Yes it would be better, and I am not saying that all lotteries are a scam, but taxes are much bigger scam ;)

It is a type of oppression of the government because the government collects money from the people in various ways even after taking taxes from the people. Maybe giving such a lottery to the government is an alternative method of collecting such a tax.
You dont have the option to opt out from paying taxes and you dont have any insight how all that money is spent.
In government lotteries situation can be only worse.

Why is it a scam?
Government is already forcing you to pay so many taxes, so why would they need to force you for doing that with lotteries?  ;D
This scheme was invented as their extra passive income and additional voluntary tax.
If you dont see that that you are deluded.
Title: Re: Government Lotteries are a Scam!
Post by: electronicash on February 05, 2024, 08:49:06 PM

you mean the yotta?  its not backed by the government though so it probably is not a scam  ;D
i have tried the government lottery actually until someone made me realized we're a joke. and that was more than 15 years ago.

so sure i have not bought any tickets for a long time. but i think they are not lying about helping the poor since at least in my country, they actually do help the poor particularly for health services.  still the lottery backed by my government is shrouded by scam. recently there was senate hearing about it due to successive winners.
Title: Re: Government Lotteries are a Scam!
Post by: notblox1 on February 05, 2024, 08:57:07 PM
so sure i have not bought any tickets for a long time. but i think they are not lying about helping the poor since at least in my country, they actually do help the poor particularly for health services.  still the lottery backed by my government is shrouded by scam. recently there was senate hearing about it due to successive winners.
I know cases with government lotteries made fake winners, and they used special weight to set up numbers they want back when they didnt have computers to make this scam much easier.
So all this government schemes are multi layered scams working on many levels to trick people and take ther money.
They dont need any lotteries or modern sms schemes to help poor and sick people when they are the one printing money  :P
Only thing they need people for is to create volume and money flow.
Title: Re: Government Lotteries are a Scam!
Post by: gunhell16 on February 06, 2024, 07:34:17 AM
so sure i have not bought any tickets for a long time. but i think they are not lying about helping the poor since at least in my country, they actually do help the poor particularly for health services.  still the lottery backed by my government is shrouded by scam. recently there was senate hearing about it due to successive winners.
I know cases with government lotteries made fake winners, and they used special weight to set up numbers they want back when they didnt have computers to make this scam much easier.
So all this government schemes are multi layered scams working on many levels to trick people and take ther money.
They dont need any lotteries or modern sms schemes to help poor and sick people when they are the one printing money  :P
Only thing they need people for is to create volume and money flow.

If we are talking about real talk, the lottery government can manipulate whoever they want to win. If the official assigned to the government lottery is corrupt,

But winning the lottery is why many poor people and other middle-class people venture into the lottery because, of course, if they are lucky, it is a big amount when someone wins. So it's just luck if no manipulation takes place.
Title: Re: Government Lotteries are a Scam!
Post by: bitterguy28 on February 06, 2024, 10:45:47 AM
This is the talk of the town now in our country that Lottery is manipulated ,  people are betting their hard earned money but in the end ? there is no true winner  but the Government or better say the one that runs the lottery , they are corrupt and scamming people day by day.
Title: Re: Government Lotteries are a Scam!
Post by: Don Pedro Dinero on February 06, 2024, 05:38:10 PM
Why is it a scam?
Government is already forcing you to pay so many taxes, so why would they need to force you for doing that with lotteries?  ;D
This scheme was invented as their extra passive income and additional voluntary tax.
If you dont see that that you are deluded.

No, it's not a scam, I'm with Stompix on this one. What happens in the lottery is public and if people are fool enough to play a game that only returns between 50-70% of the prizes collected, as well as charging taxes if you win in some countries, that's your problem. And I include myself among the fools who play from time to time. I don't know if it is also said in English but in my language some people call the lottery the tax of fools or the tax of those who don't understand mathematics.

To top it all off, I had yet to see that advert, lmao.
Title: Re: Government Lotteries are a Scam!
Post by: Cryptsafe on February 06, 2024, 07:00:29 PM
This is the talk of the town now in our country that Lottery is manipulated ,  people are betting their hard earned money but in the end ? there is no true winner  but the Government or better say the one that runs the lottery , they are corrupt and scamming people day by day.

Obviously, if people talk that lottery is manipulated, I do not doubt it because anything that involves the government always have a funny end results and prior to investigation, the truth will always be hidden from the public. All these acts keep making me wonder what government really stands for if there is no transparency and accountability in their actions.
Title: Re: Government Lotteries are a Scam!
Post by: Mr. Magkaisa on February 07, 2024, 12:02:47 AM
This is the talk of the town now in our country that Lottery is manipulated ,  people are betting their hard earned money but in the end ? there is no true winner  but the Government or better say the one that runs the lottery , they are corrupt and scamming people day by day.

Obviously, if people talk that lottery is manipulated, I do not doubt it because anything that involves the government always have a funny end results and prior to investigation, the truth will always be hidden from the public. All these acts keep making me wonder what government really stands for if there is no transparency and accountability in their actions.

      -   That's why sometimes I think that the policy held by the government is also silly because sometimes I also think that maybe the winning people there are being talked to, and they will just pay to release the winners, and then they will just divide the winnings.

For example, they have regular lotto buyers who make 100M$ every day and the winning jackpot is 100M$, then the people they hire will pay 10M$ and the 90M$ will go to the corrupt official of the lottery, that's the taste of life. But this is just my example, and I'm not saying that this is what the government official does in the lottery that they handle.
Title: Re: Government Lotteries are a Scam!
Post by: notblox1 on February 07, 2024, 12:09:27 AM
If we are talking about real talk, the lottery government can manipulate whoever they want to win. If the official assigned to the government lottery is corrupt,
They can and they do it all the time with everything including with lotteries.

No, it's not a scam, I'm with Stompix on this one. What happens in the lottery is public
Oh yes it is very public and shown on tv so it must be real and provably fair, what a joke!
Everything is manipulated in today world, but government lotteries are fair and not a scam according to you because you verified them ;D

Title: Re: Government Lotteries are a Scam!
Post by: Cryptsafe on February 07, 2024, 12:36:24 AM
This is the talk of the town now in our country that Lottery is manipulated ,  people are betting their hard earned money but in the end ? there is no true winner  but the Government or better say the one that runs the lottery , they are corrupt and scamming people day by day.

Obviously, if people talk that lottery is manipulated, I do not doubt it because anything that involves the government always have a funny end results and prior to investigation, the truth will always be hidden from the public. All these acts keep making me wonder what government really stands for if there is no transparency and accountability in their actions.

      -   That's why sometimes I think that the policy held by the government is also silly because sometimes I also think that maybe the winning people there are being talked to, and they will just pay to release the winners, and then they will just divide the winnings.

I have no doubt some policies are just as stupid and silly as the officials that implemented them. Obviously,  they do their monkey business with the lottery just to please the unsuspecting individuals making them think the whole process was genuine and transparent but that is quite different from the truth. Possibly they recruit themselves to win the lottery and also share it amongst themselves.
Title: Re: Government Lotteries are a Scam!
Post by: Stompix on February 07, 2024, 05:04:09 PM
Government is already forcing you to pay so many taxes, so why would they need to force you for doing that with lotteries?  ;D
This scheme was invented as their extra passive income and additional voluntary tax.
If you dont see that that you are deluded.

Lol, so this is why it's a scam?
This is probably a conflict of how things work in different countries and some see tax on winnings as something extraordinary but it's not!
It has never been something weird in most of western world, you pay taxes for all your earnings! All!

You win a car in cereal box competition, guess what, if the promoter doesn't pay the taxes for you yore going to have to pay 10% or 19% of the value for the car as taxes, it's considered income. For two years I've been paying tax on my earnings from betfair, they only cover themselves up to 1000euros in tax the rest is your business, does that make them scam?
It's the same for casino, so , again here is the scam?

You buy a lottery ticket, you lose you lose, you win you get your price and you pay taxes.
Not knowing how it works it's not an excuse!

No, it's not a scam, I'm with Stompix on this one. What happens in the lottery is public and if people are fool enough to play a game that only returns between 50-70% of the prizes collected, as well as charging taxes if you win in some countries, that's your problem. And I include myself among the fools who play from time to time. I don't know if it is also said in English but in my language some people call the lottery the tax of fools or the tax of those who don't understand mathematics.

Yeah, it's pretty normal pooling together funds scheme.
I wonder what people thing on jackpots on all those gambling websites they advertise!
Oh, let's look at freebitcoin.in, they give you a lambo which of course comes from the tickets you bought and what a  surprise
"If the winner wants the car in any other country, they will need to pay the excess shipping costs and any applicable taxes or fees"
So is it scamming you? Of course not!
Title: Re: Government Lotteries are a Scam!
Post by: notblox1 on February 08, 2024, 01:02:47 AM
Lol, so this is why it's a scam?
If you spent some time to think about this you would understand why this is a scam.
But you must love your government very much and you trust them with everything  ;D
I bet you also joined their medical injection lottery and booster roulette  ;D ;D

It has never been something weird in most of western world, you pay taxes for all your earnings! All!
You pay taxes for everything, and you pay more taxes with inflation.

It's the same for casino, so , again here is the scam?
It is not the same because you are not forced to pay casinos anything if you dont use them.
Governments are forcing you to pay.
Title: Re: Government Lotteries are a Scam!
Post by: gunhell16 on February 09, 2024, 03:35:31 AM
Government is already forcing you to pay so many taxes, so why would they need to force you for doing that with lotteries?  ;D
This scheme was invented as their extra passive income and additional voluntary tax.
If you dont see that that you are deluded.

Lol, so this is why it's a scam?
This is probably a conflict of how things work in different countries and some see tax on winnings as something extraordinary but it's not!
It has never been something weird in most of western world, you pay taxes for all your earnings! All!

You win a car in cereal box competition, guess what, if the promoter doesn't pay the taxes for you yore going to have to pay 10% or 19% of the value for the car as taxes, it's considered income. For two years I've been paying tax on my earnings from betfair, they only cover themselves up to 1000euros in tax the rest is your business, does that make them scam?
It's the same for casino, so , again here is the scam?

You buy a lottery ticket, you lose you lose, you win you get your price and you pay taxes.
Not knowing how it works it's not an excuse!

No, it's not a scam, I'm with Stompix on this one. What happens in the lottery is public and if people are fool enough to play a game that only returns between 50-70% of the prizes collected, as well as charging taxes if you win in some countries, that's your problem. And I include myself among the fools who play from time to time. I don't know if it is also said in English but in my language some people call the lottery the tax of fools or the tax of those who don't understand mathematics.

Yeah, it's pretty normal pooling together funds scheme.
I wonder what people thing on jackpots on all those gambling websites they advertise!
Oh, let's look at freebitcoin.in, they give you a lambo which of course comes from the tickets you bought and what a  surprise
"If the winner wants the car in any other country, they will need to pay the excess shipping costs and any applicable taxes or fees"
So is it scamming you? Of course not!

All those who win the lotto draw are taxed. Here is the size of the tax percentage that is deducted from the lotto winner. There are also instances where it was reported that a lotto bettor didn't want to give what he won just because it was torn.

But it is stated in the law that as long as the barcode on the ticket is not broken and it can be read by the scanner machine, it can be considered that it is still fine, which is why it took 10 years before the winning prize in the lottery was released. Because it was contested, the winner of the lottery is really what he has to fight for, and in the end, the winner still wins.
Title: Re: Government Lotteries are a Scam!
Post by: joniboini on February 13, 2024, 07:48:10 AM
It is not the same because you are not forced to pay casinos anything if you dont use them.
Governments are forcing you to pay.
Are you referring to tax or the lottery? Is there a country where people need to pay for a lottery? A casino (a legal one) would probably require you to pay tax anyway so they're basically the same thing no? I think the discussion about tax and the lottery itself kinda jumbled together so it is hard to see which argument tackles which point.

My country used to do a national lottery every once in a while, but it no longer does that since it just incentivizes people to be reckless with their money, not to mention it clashes directly with major religions in my country. I think that's one good thing if you want to point out a positive thing about my government, albeit they seem to keep struggling with people abusing their power every day.
Title: Re: Government Lotteries are a Scam!
Post by: gunhell16 on February 13, 2024, 04:57:50 PM
This is the talk of the town now in our country that Lottery is manipulated ,  people are betting their hard earned money but in the end ? there is no true winner  but the Government or better say the one that runs the lottery , they are corrupt and scamming people day by day.

Obviously, if people talk that lottery is manipulated, I do not doubt it because anything that involves the government always have a funny end results and prior to investigation, the truth will always be hidden from the public. All these acts keep making me wonder what government really stands for if there is no transparency and accountability in their actions.

      -   That's why sometimes I think that the policy held by the government is also silly because sometimes I also think that maybe the winning people there are being talked to, and they will just pay to release the winners, and then they will just divide the winnings.

I have no doubt some policies are just as stupid and silly as the officials that implemented them. Obviously,  they do their monkey business with the lottery just to please the unsuspecting individuals making them think the whole process was genuine and transparent but that is quite different from the truth. Possibly they recruit themselves to win the lottery and also share it amongst themselves.

Such policies are so annoying that a government has actually. Hopefully, they will fix it and be true to people who rely on the lottery, the size of the benefit the government is getting, and then that will have to cheat on their people.

So even though other officials do so, many are still hoping that poor people will be rich through the lottery because they are the only hope they see and are exploiting the exploitative people in government.
Title: Re: Government Lotteries are a Scam!
Post by: electronicash on February 13, 2024, 08:35:12 PM
This is the talk of the town now in our country that Lottery is manipulated ,  people are betting their hard earned money but in the end ? there is no true winner  but the Government or better say the one that runs the lottery , they are corrupt and scamming people day by day.

Obviously, if people talk that lottery is manipulated, I do not doubt it because anything that involves the government always have a funny end results and prior to investigation, the truth will always be hidden from the public. All these acts keep making me wonder what government really stands for if there is no transparency and accountability in their actions.

      -   That's why sometimes I think that the policy held by the government is also silly because sometimes I also think that maybe the winning people there are being talked to, and they will just pay to release the winners, and then they will just divide the winnings.

I have no doubt some policies are just as stupid and silly as the officials that implemented them. Obviously,  they do their monkey business with the lottery just to please the unsuspecting individuals making them think the whole process was genuine and transparent but that is quite different from the truth. Possibly they recruit themselves to win the lottery and also share it amongst themselves.

Such policies are so annoying that a government has actually. Hopefully, they will fix it and be true to people who rely on the lottery, the size of the benefit the government is getting, and then that will have to cheat on their people.

So even though other officials do so, many are still hoping that poor people will be rich through the lottery because they are the only hope they see and are exploiting the exploitative people in government.

they decide which poorman going to win right? i think the prize will not be given wholely to the winner and its the lottery department which just keep it to themselves or maybe invest the money to the politician who they want to win in the election so they could stay in the position for years.

an incident like this where a poorman won a lottery but the ticket was accidentally ruined, there was a lawsuit since the poorman fight for his money.  almost a decade the poorman finally got a decision which he would keep the money.  but the lottery office hold the money still. this is just one example that even the government is a scam.
Title: Re: Government Lotteries are a Scam!
Post by: notblox1 on February 14, 2024, 12:45:17 AM
Are you referring to tax or the lottery? Is there a country where people need to pay for a lottery? A casino (a legal one) would probably require you to pay tax anyway so they're basically the same thing no? I think the discussion about tax and the lottery itself kinda jumbled together so it is hard to see which argument tackles which point.
I was talking about lottery first, but like I said government lottery is in fact another form of voluntary taxation for the poor people.
This is something that was discussed by many economic experts not just by me.
Paying taxes is another form of scam since it is mandatory to pay this in most countries, with some exceptions.
Governments are than using this money collected by people to make war and create more manipulation.

Title: Re: Government Lotteries are a Scam!
Post by: Cryptsafe on February 14, 2024, 06:07:02 PM
This is the talk of the town now in our country that Lottery is manipulated ,  people are betting their hard earned money but in the end ? there is no true winner  but the Government or better say the one that runs the lottery , they are corrupt and scamming people day by day.

Obviously, if people talk that lottery is manipulated, I do not doubt it because anything that involves the government always have a funny end results and prior to investigation, the truth will always be hidden from the public. All these acts keep making me wonder what government really stands for if there is no transparency and accountability in their actions.

      -   That's why sometimes I think that the policy held by the government is also silly because sometimes I also think that maybe the winning people there are being talked to, and they will just pay to release the winners, and then they will just divide the winnings.

I have no doubt some policies are just as stupid and silly as the officials that implemented them. Obviously,  they do their monkey business with the lottery just to please the unsuspecting individuals making them think the whole process was genuine and transparent but that is quite different from the truth. Possibly they recruit themselves to win the lottery and also share it amongst themselves.

Such policies are so annoying that a government has actually. Hopefully, they will fix it and be true to people who rely on the lottery, the size of the benefit the government is getting, and then that will have to cheat on their people.

So even though other officials do so, many are still hoping that poor people will be rich through the lottery because they are the only hope they see and are exploiting the exploitative people in government.

they decide which poorman going to win right? i think the prize will not be given wholely to the winner and its the lottery department which just keep it to themselves or maybe invest the money to the politician who they want to win in the election so they could stay in the position for years.

an incident like this where a poorman won a lottery but the ticket was accidentally ruined, there was a lawsuit since the poorman fight for his money.  almost a decade the poorman finally got a decision which he would keep the money.  but the lottery office hold the money still. this is just one example that even the government is a scam.

The government are the number one scammers in the world. They would select who would win the process and only their lackies they would select so that they do not run into trouble if there be a misunderstanding  amongst them. Then after deceiving the poor masses who spent their resources to buy tickets, they make announcement of fake results to them and keep the money to themselves and give out the little money as they have agreed to the winner. I have no doubt about what you have said about them investing in politicians so as to remain in office for a long time as a reward for their loyalty and commitment.
Title: Re: Government Lotteries are a Scam!
Post by: Oasisman on February 15, 2024, 07:25:08 AM
Well, speaking of the lotteries run by government agencies, we just have a huge issue here on the latest jackpot winner, who happened to be an edited picture of someone and they posted it in their social media account. On their defense, they said it's for the security of the jackpot winner. Well, thet have a point but it shouldn't be like that.
Anyway, I always have the idea that these government owned lottery is a huge scam, although they serve as the charity as well, but it's only a few portion of the total amount from the pooled money from all the people nationally purchasing the tickets in a daily basis.

I am always thinking, they can do whatever they want since it is on their advantage for not disclosing the winners. Sure, they can pay for small wins, but the jackpot will most probably end up in their own pocket.
Title: Re: Government Lotteries are a Scam!
Post by: Crwth on February 15, 2024, 07:37:04 AM
Anyway, I always have the idea that these government owned lottery is a huge scam, although they serve as the charity as well, but it's only a few portion of the total amount from the pooled money from all the people nationally purchasing the tickets in a daily basis.

I am always thinking, they can do whatever they want since it is on their advantage for not disclosing the winners. Sure, they can pay for small wins, but the jackpot will most probably end up in their own pocket.
I have heard news about that. It's technically the people's lottery but it's the people who are in charge of it who scam people and who are evil. They are the ones who need to be replaced with honest people who do for the greater good and not serving themselves.
Title: Re: Government Lotteries are a Scam!
Post by: Cryptsafe on February 16, 2024, 01:07:42 PM
I am always thinking, they can do whatever they want since it is on their advantage for not disclosing the winners. Sure, they can pay for small wins, but the jackpot will most probably end up in their own pocket.

For sure it is always at their advantage because they are solely in charge of the whole process as it bothers about the lottery. They know what they do and how they do it to deceive the poor masses who spent their resources in purchasing the tickets and at the entire end get scammed by some few key individuals who are in charge of the lottery committee. When they are ready to release the winner list, they put their key men names as the lottery winners so they could get their own portion of the money back at the detriment of the poor masses.
Title: Re: Government Lotteries are a Scam!
Post by: bitterguy28 on February 20, 2024, 08:15:38 AM
This is the talk of the town now in our country that Lottery is manipulated ,  people are betting their hard earned money but in the end ? there is no true winner  but the Government or better say the one that runs the lottery , they are corrupt and scamming people day by day.

Obviously, if people talk that lottery is manipulated, I do not doubt it because anything that involves the government always have a funny end results and prior to investigation, the truth will always be hidden from the public. All these acts keep making me wonder what government really stands for if there is no transparency and accountability in their actions.
Indeed , Government in most part of the world are corrupt if not all but majority and most specially in this kind that the winners are mostly anonymous , that no one can tell what really is happening inside the system.
this is also the reason why now I decided that never to gamble in those run by government instead I chose those whos in private .
Title: Re: Government Lotteries are a Scam!
Post by: notblox1 on February 20, 2024, 02:51:11 PM
I have heard news about that. It's technically the people's lottery but it's the people who are in charge of it who scam people and who are evil. They are the ones who need to be replaced with honest people who do for the greater good and not serving themselves.
It should not be so hard to that.
Why dont they open everything and enable full transparency in the whole process?
Government wants to know every little thing about citizens, but citizens cant know anything about them, because of safety and security excuses.
Like they care about people at all  ::)

Indeed , Government in most part of the world are corrupt if not all but majority and most specially in this kind that the winners are mostly anonymous , that no one can tell what really is happening inside the system.
this is also the reason why now I decided that never to gamble in those run by government instead I chose those whos in private .
Power corrupts most people, and it is great responsabillity.
Government likes anonimity only when it suits them so they can hide something :P
If you had to pay huge taxes on money you won, than I am sure information would get leaked easy.
Title: Re: Government Lotteries are a Scam!
Post by: Crwth on February 20, 2024, 03:49:13 PM
I have heard news about that. It's technically the people's lottery but it's the people who are in charge of it who scam people and who are evil. They are the ones who need to be replaced with honest people who do for the greater good and not serving themselves.
It should not be so hard to that.
Why dont they open everything and enable full transparency in the whole process?
Government wants to know every little thing about citizens, but citizens cant know anything about them, because of safety and security excuses.
Like they care about people at all  ::)
People who have been given the chance to have "easy money" make their decision very hard IF THEY ARE JUST. If they are evil, then it's very easy for them to take advantage and ensure they would put money in their pockets. I think they wouldn't do that because they would be able to be criticized. I do hope that the leaders will be transparent in terms of how they are handling projects, especially the finances. It's the only solution to make them straight as an arrow and not corrupt in any way.
Title: Re: Government Lotteries are a Scam!
Post by: Primo1760 on February 25, 2024, 11:34:28 AM
This may be hard to accept but I watched a great video explaining how government Lotteries are literally a SCAM and I fully agree with that.

It was not enough for them to extort all the taxes from people so they created this scheme of milking more money from poor people.

Statistics say that  you have better chance of  being killed by vending machine than winning the lottery



Just ignore all ads in this video  ;D
Government lotteries are all scams. We have seen in our country that the government provides lotteries on many occasions. For example, all the lotteries provided by the government on international special days such as cancer day, heart disease, etc. are all cheated in the name of lottery. As far as I can see none of the winners of these lotteries have been paid so far by creating these lottery systems means the government is taking crores of rupees from the people for free. But not believing in these lotteries is very important for every people who believe and participate in these lotteries must be cheated. So those who can see all these lotteries in the coming days will quietly go away and never participate in them and refrain from participating.
Title: Re: Government Lotteries are a Scam!
Post by: bitterguy28 on February 27, 2024, 12:32:06 PM

Indeed , Government in most part of the world are corrupt if not all but majority and most specially in this kind that the winners are mostly anonymous , that no one can tell what really is happening inside the system.
this is also the reason why now I decided that never to gamble in those run by government instead I chose those whos in private .
Power corrupts most people, and it is great responsabillity.
Government likes anonimity only when it suits them so they can hide something :P
If you had to pay huge taxes on money you won, than I am sure information would get leaked easy.
If I am to be asked for taxes in my winning then I will choose to gamble illegally as I will not let them take big part of my Luck just to be abused by corrupt officials .
there are different side of gambling in my country and that is legal and illegal in which we have choice but there are risk playing back door lol.
Title: Re: Government Lotteries are a Scam!
Post by: Cryptsafe on March 01, 2024, 11:46:14 PM
This is the talk of the town now in our country that Lottery is manipulated ,  people are betting their hard earned money but in the end ? there is no true winner  but the Government or better say the one that runs the lottery , they are corrupt and scamming people day by day.

Obviously, if people talk that lottery is manipulated, I do not doubt it because anything that involves the government always have a funny end results and prior to investigation, the truth will always be hidden from the public. All these acts keep making me wonder what government really stands for if there is no transparency and accountability in their actions.
Indeed , Government in most part of the world are corrupt if not all but majority and most specially in this kind that the winners are mostly anonymous , that no one can tell what really is happening inside the system.
this is also the reason why now I decided that never to gamble in those run by government instead I chose those whos in private .
Is there any difference between the government owned lottery and private lottery? Corruption knows no bounds and it is even likely worse with the private lottery because it is owned by an individual who could single handedly manipulate the whole process in their favour without anybody knowing what has happened.

Corruption is every where. No nation or organisation is left out of it. Permit me to say that it has eaten deep into the fabrics of the society that to the list in the society are  corrupt.

If you want to know what is happening inside the system, get into the system too but be prepared for war of you think of changing the system that has already been in existence before you.
Title: Re: Government Lotteries are a Scam!
Post by: LogitechMouse on March 02, 2024, 06:05:41 PM
Well, I guess that gives me more reason not to involve myself in lotteries especially when it's a government-owned lottery.

There's this famous lottery here in our country that's owned by the government, and since it's famous, many average, and some poor people are trying their luck on betting on that establishment. They're hoping that one day, the numbers that they're betting will change their life one day. :D I know that there's a chance for them to win, but how much is that "CHANCE"?

Anyway, some authorities are questioning the government-owned lottery that I'm saying, but they are still operating, and will continue to operate because why not? The government is earning from it, and they will not stop something especially if they're earning from it because that's stupidity. There's money involved so... yeah I guess I'll just avoid this one and will focus on betting on sports games. :D
Title: Re: Government Lotteries are a Scam!
Post by: bitterguy28 on March 05, 2024, 08:05:26 AM
This is the talk of the town now in our country that Lottery is manipulated ,  people are betting their hard earned money but in the end ? there is no true winner  but the Government or better say the one that runs the lottery , they are corrupt and scamming people day by day.

Obviously, if people talk that lottery is manipulated, I do not doubt it because anything that involves the government always have a funny end results and prior to investigation, the truth will always be hidden from the public. All these acts keep making me wonder what government really stands for if there is no transparency and accountability in their actions.
Indeed , Government in most part of the world are corrupt if not all but majority and most specially in this kind that the winners are mostly anonymous , that no one can tell what really is happening inside the system.
this is also the reason why now I decided that never to gamble in those run by government instead I chose those whos in private .
Is there any difference between the government owned lottery and private lottery? Corruption knows no bounds and it is even likely worse with the private lottery because it is owned by an individual who could single handedly manipulate the whole process in their favour without anybody knowing what has happened.

Corruption is every where. No nation or organisation is left out of it. Permit me to say that it has eaten deep into the fabrics of the society that to the list in the society are  corrupt.

If you want to know what is happening inside the system, get into the system too but be prepared for war of you think of changing the system that has already been in existence before you.
at least in private gambling if I am being cheated or they corrupt the funds then it is tolerable but if government? that  is savage and that is multi victimizing the bettors/players.

and i don't need to know the system because I am contented in trying my luck and it is my choice to bet in anywhere I wanted and i choose not to in government run gambling.
Title: Re: Government Lotteries are a Scam!
Post by: notblox1 on March 05, 2024, 09:10:15 PM
Is there any difference between the government owned lottery and private lottery? Corruption knows no bounds and it is even likely worse with the private lottery because it is owned by an individual who could single handedly manipulate the whole process in their favour without anybody knowing what has happened.
Yes there is a big difference.
Lotteries should never be owned and operated by governments, because in the same time they are pretending to protect people from gambling.
If they are know to cheat, lie and scam people for everything than I am sure we are going to have better chances with good privately owned casino.
Title: Re: Government Lotteries are a Scam!
Post by: ScamViruS on March 05, 2024, 09:58:14 PM
It is obvious that the government no longer have the trust of their citizens as a result of their insincerity. I have never seen any where were a citizen speaks something positive of their government. It is always negative So I would not be surprised if the case here is still against the government. The rate at which corrupt practices are being abetted by government officials,  is not encouraging. Little wonder citizens no longer trust or depend on the government because of what they do.
Government dominates its citizens in every sector and same in lottery. The government focuses more on how much tax it can collect from the citizens, and in every country the situation is the same, as a result of which the citizens talk more about the negative aspects of the government. Trust in the government is lost due to various reasons, when the citizens see no development as expected despite paying a lot of taxes. Again citizens lose trust in government when they do not get benefits.
Title: Re: Government Lotteries are a Scam!
Post by: Cryptsafe on March 06, 2024, 05:58:44 PM
Is there any difference between the government owned lottery and private lottery? Corruption knows no bounds and it is even likely worse with the private lottery because it is owned by an individual who could single handedly manipulate the whole process in their favour without anybody knowing what has happened.
Yes there is a big difference.
Lotteries should never be owned and operated by governments, because in the same time they are pretending to protect people from gambling.
If they are know to cheat, lie and scam people for everything than I am sure we are going to have better chances with good privately owned casino.
From the unset the government has never been fair in their dealings so what is the possibility of the government not cheating when it involves what bothers around them and the same people they lie and steal from always. So therefore both the government and private owned lotteries are same as long as they can both be manipulated  from the people in charge of the process.
Title: Re: Government Lotteries are a Scam!
Post by: milewilda on March 06, 2024, 05:59:04 PM
It is obvious that the government no longer have the trust of their citizens as a result of their insincerity. I have never seen any where were a citizen speaks something positive of their government. It is always negative So I would not be surprised if the case here is still against the government. The rate at which corrupt practices are being abetted by government officials,  is not encouraging. Little wonder citizens no longer trust or depend on the government because of what they do.
Government dominates its citizens in every sector and same in lottery. The government focuses more on how much tax it can collect from the citizens, and in every country the situation is the same, as a result of which the citizens talk more about the negative aspects of the government. Trust in the government is lost due to various reasons, when the citizens see no development as expected despite paying a lot of taxes. Again citizens lose trust in government when they do not get benefits.
This is some sort of indirect taxation on which we do know that it might not really be that looking obvious since they are masking it out to be a lottery game on which there's some sort of catch
on which people or citizens would really be loving on making bets just because they do know that they could win up some amount on which it could really changed up their lives.
Yes, it is really that good to have this thing but with those recent issues about fairness then it is really that truly giving out that kind of huge doubt whether you should be planning to join or not.
It is really just that important that you do only spend the amount on buying tickets on which you can only afford to lose and next is that you shouldnt anticipate
or making yourself that too positive on things.
Title: Re: Government Lotteries are a Scam!
Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on March 09, 2024, 09:52:26 PM
It is obvious that the government no longer have the trust of their citizens as a result of their insincerity. I have never seen any where were a citizen speaks something positive of their government. It is always negative So I would not be surprised if the case here is still against the government. The rate at which corrupt practices are being abetted by government officials,  is not encouraging. Little wonder citizens no longer trust or depend on the government because of what they do.

You are entirely correct that the relationship between citizens and their governments can be extremely complicated and frequently controversial. There is definitely widespread distrust of governments, which is frequently caused by a lack of transparency and responsibility. Citizens frequently feel taken for granted by the government, and they may believe their voices have not been heard. In certain situations, there may be dishonesty and abuse of power. However, not all news is horrible. Several governments have worked hard to recover their citizens' trust through improved openness and responsibility.
Title: Re: Government Lotteries are a Scam!
Post by: Mr. Magkaisa on March 10, 2024, 12:13:03 PM
Is there any difference between the government owned lottery and private lottery? Corruption knows no bounds and it is even likely worse with the private lottery because it is owned by an individual who could single handedly manipulate the whole process in their favour without anybody knowing what has happened.
Yes there is a big difference.
Lotteries should never be owned and operated by governments, because in the same time they are pretending to protect people from gambling.
If they are know to cheat, lie and scam people for everything than I am sure we are going to have better chances with good privately owned casino.

        -    The lottery owned by the government can be manipulated; it can be released that every week someone wins the lottery. Then the government official who holds the lottery will reveal that the lotto winner is his accomplice, or it could be relatives who are far away from them or really strangers that they just contracted with, or they will pay the person the total winning amount.

This scenario has become controversial recently in our country because what happens to lottery winners has become suspicious; the investigation has even reached the senate hearing, while in the private lottery, maybe somehow the manipulation does not seem to exist as far as I know. only.
Title: Re: Government Lotteries are a Scam!
Post by: Cryptsafe on March 12, 2024, 12:50:54 PM
Is there any difference between the government owned lottery and private lottery? Corruption knows no bounds and it is even likely worse with the private lottery because it is owned by an individual who could single handedly manipulate the whole process in their favour without anybody knowing what has happened.
Yes there is a big difference.
Lotteries should never be owned and operated by governments, because in the same time they are pretending to protect people from gambling.
If they are know to cheat, lie and scam people for everything than I am sure we are going to have better chances with good privately owned casino.

        -    The lottery owned by the government can be manipulated; it can be released that every week someone wins the lottery. Then the government official who holds the lottery will reveal that the lotto winner is his accomplice, or it could be relatives who are far away from them or really strangers that they just contracted with, or they will pay the person the total winning amount.

This scenario has become controversial recently in our country because what happens to lottery winners has become suspicious; the investigation has even reached the senate hearing, while in the private lottery, maybe somehow the manipulation does not seem to exist as far as I know. only.
I agree with you that the lottery managed by the government can be easily manipulated and controlled by the government officials but when it comes to who to put in to win the lottery would not be anything close to them. It can never be their accomplice,it also can never be their relatives because doing such would create room for doubt and questioning which we all know that it would result to issues with issuing of the price to the winner.

So therefore, I think they would never want to make such a mistake of endangering themselves and reputation instead they would opt for a neutral body who is just a novice and is willing to do their biding and go away with the peanut offered them.
Title: Re: Government Lotteries are a Scam!
Post by: Baofeng on March 15, 2024, 11:36:55 PM
And we have one such cases about winning in lottery,

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Philippine Charity Sweepstakes Office (PCSO) General Manager Mel Robles said they will investigate the observation raised by Senator Raffy Tulfo regarding a person’s name on their list of official winners of the state lottery, who appeared to have won 20 times in one month.

https://manilastandard.net/news/314425551/pcso-to-investigate-extremely-lucky-bettor.html

How lucky this guy is? winning 20 times in a month? He should be super rich by now, however, number doesn't lie, what are the odds here? it's astronomical that anyone will see that something is not right here and most likely those officials of the lottery could have been involved by rigging the results as this one person keeps winning.
Title: Re: Government Lotteries are a Scam!
Post by: Nwada001 on March 16, 2024, 12:56:04 AM
Anything that has to do with the government, I totally don't like getting involved in it, especially when it comes to gambling. Like, who will you report their scam activity to, and who will come fight and defend you if you are right? When they are also the same people carrying out the activity.
 
If not for extortion, why on earth will the government have a lottery, or do they want to convince their citizens that they are using that means to give back to the community? Which will be one of the biggest lies they will ever say to them in order to draw them to the casino?
Title: Re: Government Lotteries are a Scam!
Post by: SmartGold01 on March 16, 2024, 07:59:44 AM
Government are the worst set of wrong people to toil with because they are like parasite they will depend on you and still harm you on the process, so whatever you are doing with them needs to be very careful otherwise you will be messed up. Government lotteries can never be plain as we might think after having their task deducted from it you would be left with nothing or at most they  might get you a complete payment.
Title: Re: Government Lotteries are a Scam!
Post by: Cryptsafe on March 16, 2024, 05:46:26 PM
Government are the worst set of wrong people to toil with because they are like parasite they will depend on you and still harm you on the process, so whatever you are doing with them needs to be very careful otherwise you will be messed up. Government lotteries can never be plain as we might think after having their task deducted from it you would be left with nothing or at most they  might get you a complete payment.

The way the police behave is how the government behaves as well. It is obvious that people have lost interest in the government system and all that has to do with it because of their approach to rendering service to their citizens. Lotteries should be for the masses ie the citizens of a nation with the results being fair but the reverse is the case as the lackeys and cronies of the power that be and incharge of the lotteries system have infiltrated the system doing their biddings and taking everything to themselves out of their greed and selfishness. We in our country, we do not even hear about it. They do not announce the result of the lotteries. It is just like that here and the citizens lost interest in it.
Title: Re: Government Lotteries are a Scam!
Post by: Kemarit on March 17, 2024, 05:36:01 AM
Anything that has to do with the government, I totally don't like getting involved in it, especially when it comes to gambling. Like, who will you report their scam activity to, and who will come fight and defend you if you are right? When they are also the same people carrying out the activity.

That's the state of most countries, they will really extend their hands or at least the people behind the power specially in gambling. They know that millions or billions of money is involved in lotteries, and so they try to rigged it.

If not for extortion, why on earth will the government have a lottery, or do they want to convince their citizens that they are using that means to give back to the community? Which will be one of the biggest lies they will ever say to them in order to draw them to the casino?

Well it's the biggest money making machine for them and for the tax, according to them or it's the best source for their development, like infrastructure or health. But still there are a lot of corrupt people in the government hiding or making this an excuse but at the end of it, they are making a lot of money from their people.
Title: Re: Government Lotteries are a Scam!
Post by: Rex067 on March 18, 2024, 12:48:38 AM
This may be hard to accept but I watched a great video explaining how government Lotteries are literally a SCAM and I fully agree with that.

It was not enough for them to extort all the taxes from people so they created this scheme of milking more money from poor people.

Statistics say that  you have better chance of  being killed by vending machine than winning the lottery



Just ignore all ads in this video  ;D

Lotteries are scam and one that I'm sure will spark some debate, while I understand the perspective,  I understand there are few important factors to consider. First, government lotteries are used to fund important public services , such as infrastructure and education. Some odds of winning the lottery have a positive impact in the society.
Title: Re: Government Lotteries are a Scam!
Post by: bettercrypto on March 18, 2024, 09:36:09 AM
Government are the worst set of wrong people to toil with because they are like parasite they will depend on you and still harm you on the process, so whatever you are doing with them needs to be very careful otherwise you will be messed up. Government lotteries can never be plain as we might think after having their task deducted from it you would be left with nothing or at most they  might get you a complete payment.

The way the police behave is how the government behaves as well. It is obvious that people have lost interest in the government system and all that has to do with it because of their approach to rendering service to their citizens. Lotteries should be for the masses ie the citizens of a nation with the results being fair but the reverse is the case as the lackeys and cronies of the power that be and incharge of the lotteries system have infiltrated the system doing their biddings and taking everything to themselves out of their greed and selfishness. We in our country, we do not even hear about it. They do not announce the result of the lotteries. It is just like that here and the citizens lost interest in it.

If no one gives an announcement there, which should always be done by government officials, it will really appear that it is really suspicious. It will be very easy for your government to say that there is a winner, but the truth is that the pockets of the officials really won.

The styles or gimmicks of your government officials there are disturbing. Although the chances of manipulation are actually very high, Such activities should be stopped instead of being done in other ways.
Title: Re: Government Lotteries are a Scam!
Post by: notblox1 on March 19, 2024, 09:53:20 PM
The lottery owned by the government can be manipulated; it can be released that every week someone wins the lottery.
They are manipulated already just like everything else done by most governments in the world because they are corrupt, that is why people behind the scenes put them in those positions.

How lucky this guy is? winning 20 times in a month? He should be super rich by now, however, number doesn't lie, what are the odds here? it's astronomical that anyone will see that something is not right here and most likely those officials of the lottery could have been involved by rigging the results as this one person keeps winning.
:o
They think people are stupid and dont care to investigate stuff like this.
I heard similar stories and they all look increadible and not real.
Solution is to STOP buying their shitty lottery tickets.
Title: Re: Government Lotteries are a Scam!
Post by: JaoBadjap on March 20, 2024, 01:55:16 AM
Well it is a scam, with manipulation setting a side the chances and probability.

An example could be seen in my country, theres a senate hearing that question the integrity of an Government agency that regulates lotto. In which the said agency is scheming for big jackpots to be won by people connected to higher officials of the said agency. you can check them in youtube and apply some subtitles for some of the arguments are in local language.

its just i see it as an example that government regulated gambling are really a scam.

Title: Re: Government Lotteries are a Scam!
Post by: TomPluz on March 21, 2024, 01:59:52 PM

Statistics say that  you have better chance of  being killed by vending machine than winning the lottery


Because of the millions of combinations available in lotteries, the chance to win is really so slim and it is intended that way so that the money pot can grow so large which in turn will be attracting more bettors to be a participant with the scheme. But I think the scam can happen if there will be a manipulation as to who can win the jackpot. In my estimate, there is no government-approved and regulated lottery that can be free of manipulation accusations. Sadly, this accusation of manipulation is happening in my country right now which may have impact on bettors' trust on the system. I seldom join any lottery and it is because am so sure of the so slim opportunity to win...sometimes am just doing it out of fun if there is some spare money and with the thinking that am doing something for the charity.

Title: Re: Government Lotteries are a Scam!
Post by: milewilda on March 21, 2024, 09:18:57 PM
Well it is a scam, with manipulation setting a side the chances and probability.

An example could be seen in my country, theres a senate hearing that question the integrity of an Government agency that regulates lotto. In which the said agency is scheming for big jackpots to be won by people connected to higher officials of the said agency. you can check them in youtube and apply some subtitles for some of the arguments are in local language.

its just i see it as an example that government regulated gambling are really a scam.
Here in our country it doesnt really be involving with those connected with those higher officials because it would really that pretty damn obvious if they would really be doing it such way on which we know that they could really be facing up those possible issues or other legal aspects if this one would really be proven out. The main issue here in our country is that on how often
these jackpot prizes do really be able for someone to win on which you would really be having that kind of question on how could this be possible?
If we do tend to look about into the odds or chances on winning up a combination then it is close to impossible but here in our country then it do really looks that it is really just that
to easy to win. lol
Title: Re: Government Lotteries are a Scam!
Post by: Cryptsafe on March 23, 2024, 06:43:13 PM
Government are the worst set of wrong people to toil with because they are like parasite they will depend on you and still harm you on the process, so whatever you are doing with them needs to be very careful otherwise you will be messed up. Government lotteries can never be plain as we might think after having their task deducted from it you would be left with nothing or at most they  might get you a complete payment.

The way the police behave is how the government behaves as well. It is obvious that people have lost interest in the government system and all that has to do with it because of their approach to rendering service to their citizens. Lotteries should be for the masses ie the citizens of a nation with the results being fair but the reverse is the case as the lackeys and cronies of the power that be and incharge of the lotteries system have infiltrated the system doing their biddings and taking everything to themselves out of their greed and selfishness. We in our country, we do not even hear about it. They do not announce the result of the lotteries. It is just like that here and the citizens lost interest in it.

If no one gives an announcement there, which should always be done by government officials, it will really appear that it is really suspicious. It will be very easy for your government to say that there is a winner, but the truth is that the pockets of the officials really won.

The styles or gimmicks of your government officials there are disturbing. Although the chances of manipulation are actually very high, Such activities should be stopped instead of being done in other ways.

How can you stop them? Are you as politically powerful as they are? Do you want them to come after you? These are the things that is better avoided than letting it happen because if you do, your life and that of your family would be at risk. That is why you see and behave as if you see nothing. Nobody wants to talk or act because of the fear of the unknown. So they keep manipulating the whole process and doing whatever they like and feel is the best that suits them.
Title: Re: Government Lotteries are a Scam!
Post by: luckyledger on March 26, 2024, 01:19:32 AM
Sorry, but all this looks like that when the country has a bad, corrupt government, it doesn't matter if they do a lottery or just raise taxes - everything will be bad. But aside from mandatory taxes, no one forces people to play when they don't like their government. Therefore, it's not entirely correct to say that all government lotteries take away the last from people. People willingly give by themself.
Also, as already mentioned, not all government lotteries can be scam (as described). Don't look everywhere for conspiracy theories.
Title: Re: Government Lotteries are a Scam!
Post by: DabsPoorVersion on March 26, 2024, 01:12:25 PM
Sorry, but all this looks like that when the country has a bad, corrupt government, it doesn't matter if they do a lottery or just raise taxes - everything will be bad. But aside from mandatory taxes, no one forces people to play when they don't like their government. Therefore, it's not entirely correct to say that all government lotteries take away the last from people. People willingly give by themself.
Also, as already mentioned, not all government lotteries can be scam (as described). Don't look everywhere for conspiracy theories.
That's true, no one forces anyone to play. However, due to the high amount of money that is being shown to the public of the possible amount to win, a lot of people are being blinded and start playing to try their luck. Just like what is being shown in the video, the jackpot price in the lottery is the amount that can change anyone's life which is enough to become an encouragement for the public to buy a lottery ticket.

A lot of people are being blinded and being taken their money without knowing that it is another way to get more funds especially for the poor. It's a sad reality that everyone should realize.
Title: Re: Government Lotteries are a Scam!
Post by: notblox1 on March 26, 2024, 11:07:49 PM
Also, as already mentioned, not all government lotteries can be scam (as described). Don't look everywhere for conspiracy theories.
Maybe some lotteries are not scam, but all governments today are a SCAM!
Why they need to charge so many taxes when they are printing money like crazy from nothing?
And why they have to charge more taxes on lotteries for poor people?
They dont have to, but they want to keep people sleeping and dreaming forever, not waking up.
Title: Re: Government Lotteries are a Scam!
Post by: luckyledger on March 27, 2024, 02:41:56 AM
Also, as already mentioned, not all government lotteries can be scam (as described). Don't look everywhere for conspiracy theories.
Maybe some lotteries are not scam, but all governments today are a SCAM!
Why they need to charge so many taxes when they are printing money like crazy from nothing?
And why they have to charge more taxes on lotteries for poor people?
They dont have to, but they want to keep people sleeping and dreaming forever, not waking up.

I understand you. This is indeed a thought-provoking discussion. It's clear that concerns about transparency, fairness, and the motivations behind government actions are at the heart of these comment.
But engaging in such discussions requires a nuanced understanding of economics, public policy, and social justice.

And I think its important to realise, while skepticism towards government programs, including lotteries, is healthy and necessary for a functioning democracy, not all government-operated lotteries are inherently fraudulent or scams.

As we aim to hold governments accountable, let's also commit to our personal growth which can be more important. With all respect, just saying that everybody lies, is not constructive.


Sorry, but all this looks like that when the country has a bad, corrupt government, it doesn't matter if they do a lottery or just raise taxes - everything will be bad. But aside from mandatory taxes, no one forces people to play when they don't like their government. Therefore, it's not entirely correct to say that all government lotteries take away the last from people. People willingly give by themself.
Also, as already mentioned, not all government lotteries can be scam (as described). Don't look everywhere for conspiracy theories.
That's true, no one forces anyone to play. However, due to the high amount of money that is being shown to the public of the possible amount to win, a lot of people are being blinded and start playing to try their luck. Just like what is being shown in the video, the jackpot price in the lottery is the amount that can change anyone's life which is enough to become an encouragement for the public to buy a lottery ticket.

A lot of people are being blinded and being taken their money without knowing that it is another way to get more funds especially for the poor. It's a sad reality that everyone should realize.

True. But again - we can't be responsible for someone, we can only be responsible for ourselves. Personal growth, more familiarity in matters of concern, erudition, moral stability. And choose games that bring you joy, not make you sad.
Title: Re: Government Lotteries are a Scam!
Post by: bettercrypto on March 27, 2024, 06:08:44 AM
Sorry, but all this looks like that when the country has a bad, corrupt government, it doesn't matter if they do a lottery or just raise taxes - everything will be bad. But aside from mandatory taxes, no one forces people to play when they don't like their government. Therefore, it's not entirely correct to say that all government lotteries take away the last from people. People willingly give by themself.
Also, as already mentioned, not all government lotteries can be scam (as described). Don't look everywhere for conspiracy theories.

Well, at that point, you are right. The lottery that is under the government is not forcing anyone to be honest; it is still our choice whether we will bet or not. That's why we know that there are more poor people who rely on the lottery to lift them out of the poverty they face in life.

Maybe for others, betting on the lottery is a hope for them because once they get the jackpot, they are instant millionaires. Even though they know the chances are dim, they still have the feeling that they might get lucky. So they bet.
Title: Re: Government Lotteries are a Scam!
Post by: Jay-Jay247 on March 28, 2024, 11:05:23 AM
Hey bro, not all government Lotto are scam okay, for the fact you ain't benefiting from it doesn't mean some persons out there ain't gaining from it okay!
Title: Re: Government Lotteries are a Scam!
Post by: milewilda on March 28, 2024, 07:35:14 PM
Hey bro, not all government Lotto are scam okay, for the fact you ain't benefiting from it doesn't mean some persons out there ain't gaining from it okay!
Does really depend because if you've seen some issues that connected out about the fairness of such lottery then you could really be mold up those kind of impressions.

Such as this;
https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1891212/pcso-admits-lotto-winners-photo-edited-and-poorly-done

Do you really think that people would really be that fool enough to believe that it wasnt edited? Who the hell would really be on their right minds
on showing up some winners on an edited image.
Title: Re: Government Lotteries are a Scam!
Post by: notblox1 on March 28, 2024, 10:25:45 PM
Do you really think that people would really be that fool enough to believe that it wasnt edited? Who the hell would really be on their right minds
on showing up some winners on an edited image.
Only foolish people beLIEve them.
Let me tell you another big secret, if they lie and cheat about their fake lotteries, than governments are lying and scamming us about everything  ;D
I know this is hard to accept and understand for some people, but government is not selected or elected by people, and people are not controlling it.
Title: Re: Government Lotteries are a Scam!
Post by: DaNNy001 on March 28, 2024, 10:41:44 PM
Sometimes I wonder how this lottery is even managed or arranged, but I don't have much interest in any lottery and besides if you are from my country then anything that would involved the government, you would probably understand where am coming from and besides the ratio of possibilities that warrant someone winning in a lottery involving the full nation is wildly impossible so I don't waste my time and energy.
Title: Re: Government Lotteries are a Scam!
Post by: Mr. Allcrypto on March 30, 2024, 10:48:03 PM
Yes, because I have not seen anybody or even heard about anybody that won this government lotteries. They just manipulate the results, and take the tax to themselves. Hce you came across anybody that won a any of these government lotteries before
Title: Re: Government Lotteries are a Scam!
Post by: GxSTxV on March 30, 2024, 11:31:18 PM
For a moment, I totally forgot  that the government itself operates a huge gambling operation through lotteries which are among the biggest gambling games worldwide in terms of popularity and player numbers (as I believe). In my country the government currently runs a smaller lottery known as Sport Lotto which despite that it is so old, I even remember my dad when I was a little child participated weekly on it. It is also broadcasted on national TV every couple days still. However, throughout all these years I still didn’t and never heard of anyone I know coming close to winning it or even discussing it anymore.
In both cases, this is still gambling and everyone or all players are responsible for their behaviors and spendings in such games. Even when that lottery ticket looks tempting in a store the choice to buy it and gamble is yours alone, so any result of that is your responsibility. It's nothing like a tax nor a mandatory expense to pay, simply ignore it if you prefer not to participate.

Personally, I would rather spend my money on casinos or virtual lotteries that have been proven to be legitimate than on these massive lotteries with odds of winning lower than 0.0000001% if it’s legit in first place.
Title: Re: Government Lotteries are a Scam!
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on March 31, 2024, 01:02:36 AM
Unfortunately, I have not watched the video yet, but surely will do when I have more time to spare.

But aside that, I will totally agree that government lotteries are definitely a scam, but who really cares? As long as a winner is announced from time to time, people will keep playing and hoping that the next winner to be announced will be them, and unfortunately, some may play the government lottories from their young age till they pass on, and will never have the experience of what it feels like to win the lottery.

So, it's actually very unfortunate, most people or gamblers don't really give attention to how much chances the have at winning In a game like the lottery, if most do, I am very sure they won't be wasting their money playing government lotteries because, like I said before, most of them will never win it till they die.
Title: Re: Government Lotteries are a Scam!
Post by: Gormicsta on March 31, 2024, 11:37:17 AM
I find it fascinating that winners are not permitted to expose their faces. I appreciate the safety considerations that drove this choice, but I'm wondering whether there's a way to strike a compromise between safety and openness. Perhaps the winners might be permitted to do interviews or make remarks anonymously, giving people more trust in the system.

I believe it is also crucial to consider the larger picture of why lotteries exist in the first place. In many nations, lotteries are utilized to fund government initiatives or services. But I'm wondering whether there's a better approach to raise money that's more equitable and less vulnerable to manipulation.
Title: Re: Government Lotteries are a Scam!
Post by: Cryptsafe on March 31, 2024, 03:23:04 PM
Sometimes I wonder how this lottery is even managed or arranged, but I don't have much interest in any lottery and besides if you are from my country then anything that would involved the government, you would probably understand where am coming from and besides the ratio of possibilities that warrant someone winning in a lottery involving the full nation is wildly impossible so I don't waste my time and energy.

Yes mate I understand your point. You know these days whatever involves the government can not be trusted not to talk of when it comes to money, there you would see that some people are just funny. The cabals do not take such opportunities for granted. They make sure their lackies and croonies are strategically placed in those lottery position so they could get it all amongst themselves. These are just what they do then the average citizens who spends their little funds buying tickets hoping to be the lucky winner loses out without knowing the real deal behind the scheme.

These are the reasons I don not give in to these lotteries of a thing. I do not bother about that and I do not even encourage any of my family members waste their funds for such exercise neither will I allow my loved ones waste their resources on an already scripted process.
Title: Re: Government Lotteries are a Scam!
Post by: bettercrypto on April 11, 2024, 11:51:47 AM
Sometimes I wonder how this lottery is even managed or arranged, but I don't have much interest in any lottery and besides if you are from my country then anything that would involved the government, you would probably understand where am coming from and besides the ratio of possibilities that warrant someone winning in a lottery involving the full nation is wildly impossible so I don't waste my time and energy.

Yes mate I understand your point. You know these days whatever involves the government can not be trusted not to talk of when it comes to money, there you would see that some people are just funny. The cabals do not take such opportunities for granted. They make sure their lackies and croonies are strategically placed in those lottery position so they could get it all amongst themselves. These are just what they do then the average citizens who spends their little funds buying tickets hoping to be the lucky winner loses out without knowing the real deal behind the scheme.

These are the reasons I don not give in to these lotteries of a thing. I do not bother about that and I do not even encourage any of my family members waste their funds for such exercise neither will I allow my loved ones waste their resources on an already scripted process.

You know that the lottery, if you look at it in general, becomes the hope of poor people who have no hope in life. They are the type whose only hope is the lottery to get out of trouble; they don't want to work hard to work or do a small business; instead, they rely on betting on the lottery.

This is the sad reality, but there are also others who are in the middle class who also really love the lottery because, of course, they also hope that they might get lucky. Apparently, the government is also so full of porridge that they easily make millions from the number of lottery bettors.
Title: Re: Government Lotteries are a Scam!
Post by: Cryptsafe on April 11, 2024, 12:28:47 PM
Sometimes I wonder how this lottery is even managed or arranged, but I don't have much interest in any lottery and besides if you are from my country then anything that would involved the government, you would probably understand where am coming from and besides the ratio of possibilities that warrant someone winning in a lottery involving the full nation is wildly impossible so I don't waste my time and energy.

Yes mate I understand your point. You know these days whatever involves the government can not be trusted not to talk of when it comes to money, there you would see that some people are just funny. The cabals do not take such opportunities for granted. They make sure their lackies and croonies are strategically placed in those lottery position so they could get it all amongst themselves. These are just what they do then the average citizens who spends their little funds buying tickets hoping to be the lucky winner loses out without knowing the real deal behind the scheme.

These are the reasons I don not give in to these lotteries of a thing. I do not bother about that and I do not even encourage any of my family members waste their funds for such exercise neither will I allow my loved ones waste their resources on an already scripted process.

You know that the lottery, if you look at it in general, becomes the hope of poor people who have no hope in life. They are the type whose only hope is the lottery to get out of trouble; they don't want to work hard to work or do a small business; instead, they rely on betting on the lottery.

This is the sad reality, but there are also others who are in the middle class who also really love the lottery because, of course, they also hope that they might get lucky. Apparently, the government is also so full of porridge that they easily make millions from the number of lottery bettors.
No doubt, the lottery seems to be the last resort to those who fully depend on it for survival however, not everyone plays the lottery depends on it but there are those who just feel like playing it but do not depend on it for their survival. It is just like one gambling which is almost similar but different in the sense that lottery is done in a kind of raffle draw if I am not mistaken.

I think people depending on the lottery are just seeking for a means of survival through that means hoping that if it enters for them they would take it but if the other way round, they accept it that way but I believe they really do not know what happens behind if not they would not bother themselves going for the lottery tickets.