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I created this thread to discuss everything about boxing, schedule fights, odds and prediction. Might be good to have just one thread in this community. It might not be very big as the other forum, but as we grow maybe this thread will also move as there could be a lot of boxing fans around this forum.
https://www.boxingscene.com/manny-pacquiao-vs-buakaw-banchamek-exhibition-fight-set-april-20--180341
A date has been set down for the exhibition fight between Manny Pacquiao and Buakaw Banchamek.
According to the Banchamek Gym Facebook page, the date of April 20 has been finalized. The event is being organized by Thailand’s Fresh Air Festival Co Ltd and cinema operator SF Corporation.
The bout will be fought under traditional boxing rules.
So we will have the legendary Manny Pacquiao against another legend in Buakaw scheduled for April 20 this year.
Obviously, Manny will have the advantage here as the rules will be boxing and we all know that Manny during his prime is one of the best and always in the discussion for the GOAT.
Any thoughts on this fight?
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Did you guys see odds released on Francis Ngannou next boxing fight against Anthony Joshua?
They made Ngannou look like a total underdog and I think he is going to love this, so expect even better performance from him.
I am not sure if he can win with boxing refs against him again, but I know that Joshua is not as good as Tyson Fury.
https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/boxing/international/international-matchups/joshua-anthony-v-ngannou-francis-65988f077c9c2400015fdb47
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Did you guys see odds released on Francis Ngannou next boxing fight against Anthony Joshua?
They made Ngannou look like a total underdog and I think he is going to love this, so expect even better performance from him.
I am not sure if he can win with boxing refs against him again, but I know that Joshua is not as good as Tyson Fury.
https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/boxing/international/international-matchups/joshua-anthony-v-ngannou-francis-65988f077c9c2400015fdb47
Yes mate, thanks for posting it here, not sure what sports bookies was thinking when they gave that odds to Joshua and making Ngannou again a huge underdog in this fight. I know that they have been doing a great job on making odds but Ngannou shows that he can box and even knock down Fury. And if you look at Joshua's history, he doesn't have a good chin to begin with.
So just imagine if Ngannou hit Joshua with his power, I'm not seeing Joshua can recover from it as compare to Fury who can recover and regain his consciousness right away.
But in any case if sports bookies are right again then betting on Joshua at ML is not attractive to us.
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So just imagine if Ngannou hit Joshua with his power, I'm not seeing Joshua can recover from it as compare to Fury who can recover and regain his consciousness right away.
Ngannou can hurt him for sure, but it would be sensational if he manages to beat him somehow.
To be realistic I have to say that only way for him to win for sure is with a KO, because refs are not going to give him win with points easily.
No matter how this fight ends, Ngannou earned more money from his last two fights than what he totally earned in MMA and from junky Dana White in UFC.
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So just imagine if Ngannou hit Joshua with his power, I'm not seeing Joshua can recover from it as compare to Fury who can recover and regain his consciousness right away.
Ngannou can hurt him for sure, but it would be sensational if he manages to beat him somehow.
To be realistic I have to say that only way for him to win for sure is with a KO, because refs are not going to give him win with points easily.
No matter how this fight ends, Ngannou earned more money from his last two fights than what he totally earned in MMA and from junky Dana White in UFC.
Speaking of money, yes it's true he will earned more money that he did in his entire career in UFC. It was reported that in the Fury fight alone, he earn $10 million plus others, like PPV numbers.
And in this fight, reports says that might be bigger than that, $10-$20 million for him.
We all know that the major sponsor here is Saudi, and we all know that oil rich country doesn't care about the money. So maybe there are some truth about the numbers that we are seeing about this fight, Joshua about $50 million ++.
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To be realistic I have to say that only way for him to win for sure is with a KO, because refs are not going to give him win with points easily.
You are probably referring to the judges and not the refs. Judges controls the scoring unless the ref deducts a point off Ngannou but that unlikely to happen since he's not a dirty fighter. However, the ref could change the outcome of the fight in other ways like prolonging the count if Francis knocks down Anthony.
About the fight odds, I think the huge underdog is just about right. Everybody knows what he looks like in the boxing ring now and what he's capable of. There is no longer an element of surprise there unlike when he fought Fury.
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it wouldn't be surprising if Francis is now the favorite of bookmakers. he did knock down Fury, only a few had done it despite him not in boxing. some people have speculated Francis to win that fight though, the man is in combat sports for a long time so he does know how to box. he could win this time with AJ, if Francis can fight up to 10th round with the best HW in boxing, he can extend it to 12.
Francis career had changed for good after he got out of UFC, his 2nd fight proves he making big bucks. In FFury fight alone it was said he earn 10M.
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it wouldn't be surprising if Francis is now the favorite of bookmakers. he did knock down Fury, only a few had done it despite him not in boxing. some people have speculated Francis to win that fight though, the man is in combat sports for a long time so he does know how to box. he could win this time with AJ, if Francis can fight up to 10th round with the best HW in boxing, he can extend it to 12.
Francis career had changed for good after he got out of UFC, his 2nd fight proves he making big bucks. In FFury fight alone it was said he earn 10M.
Unfortunately it's not the case though, I just browse Stake and this is the odds as per ML,
Joshua - 1.20
Ngannou - 4.20
And so even with Francis performance against Fury, he is still a big underdog here, 4:1 against Joshua. But that's for those odd makers, but for us who have seen Francis performance, we might give him a good chance here, maybe we think it will be a 50/50 fight as Francis has a big power and we all know that AJ can't take punches very well and we might see that if Ngannou landed one of his power punches on the chin of Joshua it could be a knockout and one of the best upset this year.
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it wouldn't be surprising if Francis is now the favorite of bookmakers. he did knock down Fury, only a few had done it despite him not in boxing. some people have speculated Francis to win that fight though, the man is in combat sports for a long time so he does know how to box. he could win this time with AJ, if Francis can fight up to 10th round with the best HW in boxing, he can extend it to 12.
Francis career had changed for good after he got out of UFC, his 2nd fight proves he making big bucks. In FFury fight alone it was said he earn 10M.
Unfortunately it's not the case though, I just browse Stake and this is the odds as per ML,
Joshua - 1.20
Ngannou - 4.20
And so even with Francis performance against Fury, he is still a big underdog here, 4:1 against Joshua. But that's for those odd makers, but for us who have seen Francis performance, we might give him a good chance here, maybe we think it will be a 50/50 fight as Francis has a big power and we all know that AJ can't take punches very well and we might see that if Ngannou landed one of his power punches on the chin of Joshua it could be a knockout and one of the best upset this year.
bookmakers still under rate Francis despite how he executed his previous fight. its a good chance to win big by rooting for Francis. by having same game plan when he fought Fury, Francis could win.
the thought of Frank getting KOed is possible though. AJ still is far experienced in boxing and he fought hard boxers, having the balls to fight Usyk makes him a standup guy. among the HW, he surely fought the tough guys above him.
i would probably go for Ngannou, Francis By Decision 16.00 with a small amount.
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We have a upcoming fight this weekend, between Arthur Beterbiev vs Callum Smith.
They already make the official weigh-in here:
Beterbiev - 1.23
Smith - 3.95
I think this will not go to the judges scorecard as Beterbiev possesses a knockout power. I'm predicting that maybe 8-10 rounds that Beterbiev will score a referee stoppage or knocking down Smith to win.
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^^ Fight is over, the corner of Callum Smith stop the fight are round 7, because their boxer is taking too much punishment from Beterbiev. And with this one it cemented Arthur's status as one of the best LHW in the division.
But he has another one to beat and that is Dmitri Bivol who has a belt as well. In the post fight interview, he said that he wanted to fight Bivol for unification. So it's good thing that we hear it from him. But still depends on how their respective managers are going to negotiate. Nevertheless we do hope that this can happen this year.
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There is a upcoming fight between Loma and Kambosos,
Vasiliy Lomachenko and George Kambosos Jr. will fight a little later than anticipated, but their lightweight championship clash will still take place in Kambosos’ home country of Australia.
https://www.boxingscene.com/vasiliy-lomachenko-george-kambosos-deal-done-512-perth-moloneys-on-undercard--180712
This fight is supposed to happen before, but it's good to see that finally they are going to fight and will go for the IBF 135 lbs.
Who do you think will win this fight?
I have Loma winning in a unanimous decision here.
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There is a upcoming fight between Loma and Kambosos,
Vasiliy Lomachenko and George Kambosos Jr. will fight a little later than anticipated, but their lightweight championship clash will still take place in Kambosos’ home country of Australia.
https://www.boxingscene.com/vasiliy-lomachenko-george-kambosos-deal-done-512-perth-moloneys-on-undercard--180712
This fight is supposed to happen before, but it's good to see that finally they are going to fight and will go for the IBF 135 lbs.
Who do you think will win this fight?
I have Loma winning in a unanimous decision here.
why do it have to be in IBF, there's WBO which the champ is also vacant. loma is getting old though, its a risky bet to root for him. 5 years ago would have been a better loma but now its like of a 50/50 chance.
he can last the 12 rounds that for sure but so is kambosos. loma can absorb kambosos' punch without prob. so this fight can play out like stealing rounds every time there just 10 seconds left.
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There is a upcoming fight between Loma and Kambosos,
Vasiliy Lomachenko and George Kambosos Jr. will fight a little later than anticipated, but their lightweight championship clash will still take place in Kambosos’ home country of Australia.
https://www.boxingscene.com/vasiliy-lomachenko-george-kambosos-deal-done-512-perth-moloneys-on-undercard--180712
This fight is supposed to happen before, but it's good to see that finally they are going to fight and will go for the IBF 135 lbs.
Who do you think will win this fight?
I have Loma winning in a unanimous decision here.
why do it have to be in IBF, there's WBO which the champ is also vacant. loma is getting old though, its a risky bet to root for him. 5 years ago would have been a better loma but now its like of a 50/50 chance.
he can last the 12 rounds that for sure but so is kambosos. loma can absorb kambosos' punch without prob. so this fight can play out like stealing rounds every time there just 10 seconds left.
I assumed it's not financially wise for Loma to fight for the WBO belt, who is the WBO number 2? Denys Berinchyk? We haven't heard of this fighter before. But with the IBF, it's Kambosos their number 2 and then Loma number 3.
Besides it's all money for Top Rank, and so it make sense for them to go with this fight and I think IBF is fine with it obviously. Perhaps if Loma will win this fight, he can go after the WBO belt. But for now, financial and business wise, it make sense for this two to go for the IBF belt first.
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This is the promo for the Usyk vs Fury fight,
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/01/19/3p3eo.png)
Undercards are also in, but fans are complaining because it's not as good as we expected.
Joe Cordina vs. Anthony Cacace
Sergey Kovalev vs. Robin Sirwan
Isaac Lowe vs. Hasibullah Ahmadi
Moses Itauma vs. TBA Bakhodir
Jalolov vs. TBA
David Nyika vs. TBA
So its obvious that this fighters are no name. They made a very poor choices of fighter to put as their undercard in this big fight.
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it wouldn't be surprising if Francis is now the favorite of bookmakers. he did knock down Fury, only a few had done it despite him not in boxing. some people have speculated Francis to win that fight though, the man is in combat sports for a long time so he does know how to box. he could win this time with AJ, if Francis can fight up to 10th round with the best HW in boxing, he can extend it to 12.
Francis career had changed for good after he got out of UFC, his 2nd fight proves he making big bucks. In FFury fight alone it was said he earn 10M.
Unfortunately it's not the case though, I just browse Stake and this is the odds as per ML,
Joshua - 1.20
Ngannou - 4.20
And so even with Francis performance against Fury, he is still a big underdog here, 4:1 against Joshua. But that's for those odd makers, but for us who have seen Francis performance, we might give him a good chance here, maybe we think it will be a 50/50 fight as Francis has a big power and we all know that AJ can't take punches very well and we might see that if Ngannou landed one of his power punches on the chin of Joshua it could be a knockout and one of the best upset this year.
bookmakers still under rate Francis despite how he executed his previous fight. its a good chance to win big by rooting for Francis. by having same game plan when he fought Fury, Francis could win.
the thought of Frank getting KOed is possible though. AJ still is far experienced in boxing and he fought hard boxers, having the balls to fight Usyk makes him a standup guy. among the HW, he surely fought the tough guys above him.
i would probably go for Ngannou, Francis By Decision 16.00 with a small amount.
I do agree that bookmakers are underestimating Francis capability to pull an upset. But for us bettors who think that Ngannou has a good chance, then maybe it's good to bet on him at ML.
But if you are looking for more attractive odds, yeah, why not Francis by decision as this is a long shot.
Because I do believed that if Francis if going to win, it will be a KO victory and Joshua winning could be via decision.
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Because I do believed that if Francis if going to win, it will be a KO victory and Joshua winning could be via decision.
Also agree that Francis's chance of winning this fight is through a knockout because he is more heavy-handed than Joshua I think and he might throw more bombs than AJ which in my opinion will be very careful on this one. AJ's confidence might be back but he will be extra cautious as to not suffer a devastating knockout to an MMA fighter hehe.
BTW, good to be here. One question though, how to become a legendary on this forum? What's needed, Karma? Have not explored much as of this moment but definitely, i will be staying a lot on this forum from now on.
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Because I do believed that if Francis if going to win, it will be a KO victory and Joshua winning could be via decision.
Also agree that Francis's chance of winning this fight is through a knockout because he is more heavy-handed than Joshua I think and he might throw more bombs than AJ which in my opinion will be very careful on this one. AJ's confidence might be back but he will be extra cautious as to not suffer a devastating knockout to an MMA fighter hehe.
Yes, and that's why we enjoyed seeing though, a knockout in a fight. AJ chin has been tested already and so he has to protect it. And we have seen the power of Ngannou from his UFC days and it's proven in boxing when he knock down Fury.
So everything is based on his power right now, if that landed, then AJ will be in trouble. And I don't think that AJ can boxed the full 12 rounds, he will get tired doing it and that will be that small opening that Francis might have to look.
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So it's becoming clearer now that the indefinite suspension of Luis Nery will be lifted by the Japanese Boxing Commission as the planned of holding this Inoue vs Nery fight is also becoming clearer. Don't know where they held the Tapales fight but this Nery fight is planned to be held in Tokyo Dome which i think could accommodate more audience and of course, more people means more revenue.
https://www.boxingscene.com/naoya-inoue-luis-nery-122-pound-championship-clash-planned-6-tokyo-dome--180939
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So it's becoming clearer now that the indefinite suspension of Luis Nery will be lifted by the Japanese Boxing Commission as the planned of holding this Inoue vs Nery fight is also becoming clearer. Don't know where they held the Tapales fight but this Nery fight is planned to be held in Tokyo Dome which i think could accommodate more audience and of course, more people means more revenue.
https://www.boxingscene.com/naoya-inoue-luis-nery-122-pound-championship-clash-planned-6-tokyo-dome--180939
Yes, mate it's official now, Nery's supposedly lifetime ban is lifted because he will be fighting Japan's number fighter in Inoue. So that JBC will have to adjust to their own rule against Nery and now will allow him to fight in Japan again.
I think the fight between Tapales vs Inoue is held on Saitama. The usual venue for Japanese fights, but it seems that they could be looking for bigger venues for Inoue moving forward.
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Weigh in for Munguia vs Ryder
Main event tomorrow night in Phoenix Arizona, WBC Silver Middleweight champion.
Munguia - 167.8 lbs
Ryder - 167.8 lbs
Going to be some spectacle in this fight, both are looking for a good payday next, maybe against the champion in Canelo or another young prospect in Berlanga.
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Weigh in for Munguia vs Ryder
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Main event tomorrow night in Phoenix Arizona, WBC Silver Middleweight champion.
Munguia - 167.8 lbs
Ryder - 167.8 lbs
Going to be some spectacle in this fight, both are looking for a good payday next, maybe against the champion in Canelo or another young prospect in Berlanga.
I thought at first that Ryder is the favorite but after browsing on my favorite sportsbook, it turns out that Munguia is the favorite to win of the two.
Yup, the winner will have a lucrative payday ahead of them if the winner will Canelo but i doubt it would happen sooner as Canelo got a plan of his own and both fighters are not on his hit list.
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Weigh in for Munguia vs Ryder
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Main event tomorrow night in Phoenix Arizona, WBC Silver Middleweight champion.
Munguia - 167.8 lbs
Ryder - 167.8 lbs
Going to be some spectacle in this fight, both are looking for a good payday next, maybe against the champion in Canelo or another young prospect in Berlanga.
I thought at first that Ryder is the favorite but after browsing on my favorite sportsbook, it turns out that Munguia is the favorite to win of the two.
Yup, the winner will have a lucrative payday ahead of them if the winner will Canelo but i doubt it would happen sooner as Canelo got a plan of his own and both fighters are not on his hit list.
Yes, it's the young boxer who is the favorite, but we all know that Ryder has good chance and being the undercard it could motivate him more. Munguia is the up and coming star of this division and that's why you will hear them saying that Canelo is their target.
It's true that Canelo has plans, even bigger than Munguia like Benavidez, but it seems that Canelo at least for now are not looking at it.
(Good to see you here mate getting active as well) ;D
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Jaime Munguia dominated John Ryder as he stops him in 9th round. He scored 4 knockdown in this fight. But for me I think Munguia is still raw, although he is working with coach Freddie in this fight, there are still a lot of room to improved.
But he has time, he is still very young.
As for Ryder, he said that he will retire if he lose in this fight. It's just bad match up from him. Munguia has power in both hands and good chin as he is not affected by the power jabs of Ryder.
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Jaime Munguia dominated John Ryder as he stops him in 9th round. He scored 4 knockdown in this fight. But for me I think Munguia is still raw, although he is working with coach Freddie in this fight, there are still a lot of room to improved.
But he has time, he is still very young.
As for Ryder, he said that he will retire if he lose in this fight. It's just bad match up from him. Munguia has power in both hands and good chin as he is not affected by the power jabs of Ryder.
I watched the replay on Youtube and you are right, there are still a lot to improve for Munguia's raw talent. They should not rush this kid to fight for a championship, 3 or 4 more fights like Ryder then he is good to go for the championship belt i think.
As for John Ryder, i think it's time for him to hang the gloves for good as he was made a stepping stone by young talents which could harm his physical health.
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We are getting closer to possibly the greatest fight in the modern era of boxing, Fury Vs Usuk, which will unify the following belts: WBC (Fury) and WBA, WBO, IBF, IBO (Usyk). So unless the fight ends with a draw, we will see the first undisputed heavyweight champion in over 20 years.
An interesting face-off style interview popped up 3 days ago:
I like this form of interview as it allows to assess who is more confident and has a mental advantage. I think it's clear that Fury appeared to be mentally dominating, but it's hard to imagine anyone being better than him in this element.
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I watched the replay on Youtube and you are right, there are still a lot to improve for Munguia's raw talent. They should not rush this kid to fight for a championship, 3 or 4 more fights like Ryder then he is good to go for the championship belt i think.
As for John Ryder, i think it's time for him to hang the gloves for good as he was made a stepping stone by young talents which could harm his physical health.
Munguia already has 43 fights. One of the criticisms he's faced is that his opposition has been too soft. If his promoter felt he was ready to fight Golovkin in 2018, when GGG was looking for a replacement opponent after Canelo was suspended, then he should be ready to fight that level of competition now that he has a lot more experience.
It is true that his defense needs a lot of improvement but he is still offensively very strong. It is time to step up his level of competition. Unfortunately for Munguia, PBC has most of the top fighters in the division and they don't like to work with other promoters. If politics weren't an issue then I would like to see him against Canelo, Jermall Charlo, or David Benavidez.
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I watched the replay on Youtube and you are right, there are still a lot to improve for Munguia's raw talent. They should not rush this kid to fight for a championship, 3 or 4 more fights like Ryder then he is good to go for the championship belt i think.
As for John Ryder, i think it's time for him to hang the gloves for good as he was made a stepping stone by young talents which could harm his physical health.
Munguia already has 43 fights. One of the criticisms he's faced is that his opposition has been too soft. If his promoter felt he was ready to fight Golovkin in 2018, when GGG was looking for a replacement opponent after Canelo was suspended, then he should be ready to fight that level of competition now that he has a lot more experience.
It is true that his defense needs a lot of improvement but he is still offensively very strong. It is time to step up his level of competition. Unfortunately for Munguia, PBC has most of the top fighters in the division and they don't like to work with other promoters. If politics weren't an issue then I would like to see him against Canelo, Jermall Charlo, or David Benavidez.
I have read the social media post of Benavidez after the fight of Munguia, the former have said that Munguia is an easy fight or knockout if they are to meet in the ring. Benavidez might have a point but as you have said that boxing politics will not allow the two to meet. One option for Munguia is to opt-out of his current promoter just like what Canelo did so he can have full control of his career.
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I like this form of interview as it allows to assess who is more confident and has a mental advantage. I think it's clear that Fury appeared to be mentally dominating, but it's hard to imagine anyone being better than him in this element.
Great interview and you deserved some positive karma!
I watched interviews like this in older Tyson Fury fights and I saw he is very smart both in talking and boxing.
Cant wait for this fight to get started, and I think this fight wont go to distance.
Betting on Fury to win is not bad, but fight to end early pays amazing, and I think someone is going down
Check the odds: https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/boxing/international/international-matchups/fury-tyson-v-usyk-oleksandr-6554faff0a6c950001760aff
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Breaking news:
Shakur Stevenson announced in his tweeter account that he is retiring from the sport of boxing. Don't know the reason but i do think that he is not that hungry for a title anymore and that showed on his last performance against Edwin De Los Santos where he almost lost that one with a sub par performance.
Maybe a fight with Haney could make him unretire.
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Breaking news:
Shakur Stevenson announced in his tweeter account that he is retiring from the sport of boxing. Don't know the reason but i do think that he is not that hungry for a title anymore and that showed on his last performance against Edwin De Los Santos where he almost lost that one with a sub par performance.
Maybe a fight with Haney could make him unretire.
Teofimo and Tyson Fury also said they were retiring but then came back a few months later. If he is really serious then he should vacate his belt, otherwise it’s just a publicity stunt. He might be frustrated that so many fighters refuse to fight him. His style is so unappealing to watch that not many people will miss him.
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Breaking news:
Shakur Stevenson announced in his tweeter account that he is retiring from the sport of boxing. Don't know the reason but i do think that he is not that hungry for a title anymore and that showed on his last performance against Edwin De Los Santos where he almost lost that one with a sub par performance.
Maybe a fight with Haney could make him unretire.
Teofimo and Tyson Fury also said they were retiring but then came back a few months later. If he is really serious then he should vacate his belt, otherwise it’s just a publicity stunt. He might be frustrated that so many fighters refuse to fight him. His style is so unappealing to watch that not many people will miss him.
Yup, that's the problem of the fighting style of Shakur Stevenson, he can't draw crowds or even filled a stadium when his opponent is not so popular. He and Haney have almost the same style but the latter has the advantage as he is the unified champion and like you said, he might unretire a few months from now is the offer is good.
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Breaking news:
Shakur Stevenson announced in his tweeter account that he is retiring from the sport of boxing. Don't know the reason but i do think that he is not that hungry for a title anymore and that showed on his last performance against Edwin De Los Santos where he almost lost that one with a sub par performance.
Maybe a fight with Haney could make him unretire.
Teofimo and Tyson Fury also said they were retiring but then came back a few months later. If he is really serious then he should vacate his belt, otherwise it’s just a publicity stunt. He might be frustrated that so many fighters refuse to fight him. His style is so unappealing to watch that not many people will miss him.
Yup, that's the problem of the fighting style of Shakur Stevenson, he can't draw crowds or even filled a stadium when his opponent is not so popular. He and Haney have almost the same style but the latter has the advantage as he is the unified champion and like you said, he might unretire a few months from now is the offer is good.
is Fury the first to do this? seem like its their way for Top rank to offer them millions to fight again.
i don't think the promoters believe Shakur for saying this. he is too young to retire. he barely make millions like Fury so there is got to be a minimum price for him to go back. but this guy is not a KO artist though. he may be skillful like he could dance around an opponent but with a record of being a Decision artist, offer may not be as huge as he expect.
him and Teo should fight.
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Fury Vs Usyk is less than 3 weeks away. It will be a legendary fight.
Fury can definitely get knocked down, we've already seen it a few times. But he'd always just spring back up and win a fight. He also had some controversial wins, like the first one against Wilder that you mentioned or his last one against Ngannou. But he has a perfect personality for this profession. He truly believes that he's meant to be the undisputed champion, which gives him extra powers.
As for Usyk, his technique is second to none, but the size disadvantage will be the major factor here. You don't need to be an expert to know that Fury's main tactic will be throwing a LOT of jabs to keep Usyk at a safe distance.
The odds are quite close. Currently 1.76 for Fury and 2.12 for Usyk. I expected Fury to be more of a favourite, but maybe that fight with Francis played a role here.
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Breaking news:
Shakur Stevenson announced in his tweeter account that he is retiring from the sport of boxing. Don't know the reason but i do think that he is not that hungry for a title anymore and that showed on his last performance against Edwin De Los Santos where he almost lost that one with a sub par performance.
Maybe a fight with Haney could make him unretire.
Teofimo and Tyson Fury also said they were retiring but then came back a few months later. If he is really serious then he should vacate his belt, otherwise it’s just a publicity stunt. He might be frustrated that so many fighters refuse to fight him. His style is so unappealing to watch that not many people will miss him.
Yes, I read it but who knows, this could be another Teo Lopez "moments".
But after 30 days, Lopez announced that he is coming back and that his retirement is voided, then call out Devin Haney. Most likely he will do the same though, maybe he is just looking for the right opponent to return back in the ring.
@electronicash - Fury had mental issues that's why he quit (way back before it was like a norm today seeing athletes calling it a problem for them), but then he comeback and became a champion again.
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Fury Vs Usyk is less than 3 weeks away. It will be a legendary fight.
Fury can definitely get knocked down, we've already seen it a few times. But he'd always just spring back up and win a fight. He also had some controversial wins, like the first one against Wilder that you mentioned or his last one against Ngannou. But he has a perfect personality for this profession. He truly believes that he's meant to be the undisputed champion, which gives him extra powers.
As for Usyk, his technique is second to none, but the size disadvantage will be the major factor here. You don't need to be an expert to know that Fury's main tactic will be throwing a LOT of jabs to keep Usyk at a safe distance.
The odds are quite close. Currently 1.76 for Fury and 2.12 for Usyk. I expected Fury to be more of a favourite, but maybe that fight with Francis played a role here.
There's a saying in boxing or maybe this is applicable to all sports, "You are only as good as your last performance", that maybe the reason why the odds is close as Francis gives Fury a one hell of a fight whereas Usyk was superb in defeating AJ.
But size does matter and i think Fury will this fight so that 1.76 ML odds is attractive enough for me to push the bet button.
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Fury Vs Usyk is less than 3 weeks away. It will be a legendary fight.
Fury can definitely get knocked down, we've already seen it a few times. But he'd always just spring back up and win a fight. He also had some controversial wins, like the first one against Wilder that you mentioned or his last one against Ngannou. But he has a perfect personality for this profession. He truly believes that he's meant to be the undisputed champion, which gives him extra powers.
As for Usyk, his technique is second to none, but the size disadvantage will be the major factor here. You don't need to be an expert to know that Fury's main tactic will be throwing a LOT of jabs to keep Usyk at a safe distance.
The odds are quite close. Currently 1.76 for Fury and 2.12 for Usyk. I expected Fury to be more of a favourite, but maybe that fight with Francis played a role here.
There's a saying in boxing or maybe this is applicable to all sports, "You are only as good as your last performance", that maybe the reason why the odds is close as Francis gives Fury a one hell of a fight whereas Usyk was superb in defeating AJ.
But size does matter and i think Fury will this fight so that 1.76 ML odds is attractive enough for me to push the bet button.
And here is the official promo for the fight,
I was impressed by it to be honest. They needed something like this to really reach out to boxing fans.
And the Jerwin Ancajas and Takuma Inoue fight is also back on schedule on February 24.
https://www.rappler.com/sports/boxing/jerwin-ancajas-gears-up-title-fight-takuma-inoue-japan-february-2024/
It's a tough fight for Jerwin as he will go to Japan and try to win that belt.
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And here is the official promo for the fight,
I love the whole western-gladiator-pirate movie style and I saw other Fury family members in this promo video!
Only 16 days until the fight I am already preparing for this historic spectacle.
Now time for you to get some good karma. ;)
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I was impressed by it to be honest. They needed something like this to really reach out to boxing fans.
Same here and to be honest, this was my first time to see such a promotion video of that kind and I do hope that the real would live up to its expectations.
It's a tough fight for Jerwin as he will go to Japan and try to win that belt.
Agree, Jerwin is on a downfall of his career and this may be a make or break fight for him that a loss might be the reason for his early retirement from boxing.
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I was impressed by it to be honest. They needed something like this to really reach out to boxing fans.
Same here and to be honest, this was my first time to see such a promotion video of that kind and I do hope that the real would live up to its expectations.
It's a tough fight for Jerwin as he will go to Japan and try to win that belt.
Agree, Jerwin is on a downfall of his career and this may be a make or break fight for him that a loss might be the reason for his early retirement from boxing.
He really needs to get this win, he might have a hard time moving up in weight if he losses this one. So in any case, yeah, it could be a make or break for him but hopefully he can still come out on top.
He last name might be Inoue, but he is not the same as his brother who is more powerful that why we should give Jerwin a chance even if he is a big underdog in this fight. And for us who supported our own, we are going to bet on him.
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There's a saying in boxing or maybe this is applicable to all sports, "You are only as good as your last performance"
This could be the reason, but Tyson had plenty of fights when he looked careless, and was getting knocked down (e.g. Wilder fights) but would always come at the top.
I suspect experts see Usyk as a guy hard to catch and knock out, so are expecting the fight to be more technical and go to judges. In such case, Usyk have a decent chance.
But size does matter and i think Fury will this fight so that 1.76 ML odds is attractive enough for me to push the bet button.
I think so too, we have weight classes for a reason and Usyk is not a real heavyweight. The size/reach disadvantage will probably be too much to overcome.
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Damn, have you read the news about the Fury vs Usyk fight lately? News had it that it would be postponed to a later date due to the cut that Fury got and his cutman said that it would take at least 90 days to fully heal.
https://www.boxingscene.com/fury-usyk-fallout-entire-february-17-ring-fire-event-postponed--181159
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Damn, have you read the news about the Fury vs Usyk fight lately? News had it that it would be postponed to a later date due to the cut that Fury got and his cutman said that it would take at least 90 days to fully heal.
https://www.boxingscene.com/fury-usyk-fallout-entire-february-17-ring-fire-event-postponed--181159
Fury has had all kinds of misfortunes in his career. Some have been self-inflicted and some have not. There are some conspiracy theorists suggesting that Fury got himself intentionally injured because he doesn't want to fight Usyk. They were also saying he intentionally got Covid to avoid Wilder several years ago, or that it was fake and he never had Covid. With boxing fans being so tribal, there are many who will always believe the worst when something like this happens. Even if there's no evidence people will still repeat these theories if it makes a fighter who isn't from their favorite promotion or ethnic background look bad.
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Damn, have you read the news about the Fury vs Usyk fight lately? News had it that it would be postponed to a later date due to the cut that Fury got and his cutman said that it would take at least 90 days to fully heal.
https://www.boxingscene.com/fury-usyk-fallout-entire-february-17-ring-fire-event-postponed--181159
Just woke up to that news. What a bummer.
Michael Bisping's commentary, including the footage of unfortunate sparring:
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The fight will likely get postponed, although there are speculations of the replacement fight, possibly against Filip Hrgovic (17-0).
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Damn, have you read the news about the Fury vs Usyk fight lately? News had it that it would be postponed to a later date due to the cut that Fury got and his cutman said that it would take at least 90 days to fully heal.
https://www.boxingscene.com/fury-usyk-fallout-entire-february-17-ring-fire-event-postponed--181159
Yes, and as been discussed in the other forum, there is something odd in this fight and majority have been right as with that accidental cut on Fury is huge and it really will take days to fully close it up and healed before he can go back to active boxing.
@FinneysTrueVision - I heard those conspiracies, but not sure about it, I mean with all the money in the line here and obviously him and his Father are motivated by it, why would he self inflict and not go and push the fight? doesn't make sense.
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Filip is a younger and looks like he could KO Usyk. this is a bigger risk for Usyk.
what Bisping is saying that the event is going to be canceled because Usyk will also deny Filip because he is after a bigger payday than what he could get if he fights Fury. how disappointing can this be. but i would also not ignore the fact that Fury had been avoiding Usyk since. if the theories are to be believed, this is a massive duck. ;D
the video does look like the elbow hit the jaw.
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The fight will likely get postponed, although there are speculations of the replacement fight, possibly against Filip Hrgovic (17-0).
Anyone knows who was the Fury sparring partner?
That is one big cut and it sucks this incident happened, I was so getting ready mentally to watch this fight. :(
I want to see this fight soon, but it is going to be hard for it to happen in next few months, or it would be a big risk for cut to open during the fight.
My prediction if everything went good, maybe fight can happen in November or December.
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Filip is a younger and looks like he could KO Usyk. this is a bigger risk for Usyk.
what Bisping is saying that the event is going to be canceled because Usyk will also deny Filip because he is after a bigger payday than what he could get if he fights Fury. how disappointing can this be. but i would also not ignore the fact that Fury had been avoiding Usyk since. if the theories are to be believed, this is a massive duck. ;D
the video does look like the elbow hit the jaw.
It is good that they didn't totally cancel the card and a replacement for Fury is better than no fight for Usyk at all.
I don't think that the youth of Filip could make him win the fight as Usyk is a technical fighter and betting Joshua twice is not an easy task for everyone in this division so i think Usyk will remain a champion after their Saudi fight in the coming weeks.
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Bivol and Beterbiev fight is on:
Artur Beterbiev and Dmitry Bivol will finally meet for a fight that will crown the undisputed light heavyweight champion.
Turki Alalshikh, the chairman of the General Entertainment Authority of Saudi Arabia, announced the news Saturday, revealing that Beterbiev and Bivol will fight on June 1 in Saudi Arabia.
The event will also showcase the previously announced “five-versus-five” card featuring fighters from rival British promoters Matchroom Boxing and Queensberry Promotions.
In recent months, all signs have been pointing toward a bout between the WBC, WBO, and IBF champion Beterbiev and WBA titlist Bivol to be nearing a deal.
https://www.boxingscene.com/beterbiev-bivol-on-june-1-saudi-arabia-matchroom-vs-queensberry-5-vs-5-featured-on-undercard--181193
This is going to be a unification fight, both are undefeated, Beterbiev still looks scary at his age, while Bivol is cool with his defeat of Canelo.
Who you got in this fight?
I think it will be a very close fight but I'm seeing Beterbiev might edge Bivol in a 12 full rounds, perhaps a split decision win. I haven't check the odds for this fight though.
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Bivol and Beterbiev fight is on:
Artur Beterbiev and Dmitry Bivol will finally meet for a fight that will crown the undisputed light heavyweight champion.
Turki Alalshikh, the chairman of the General Entertainment Authority of Saudi Arabia, announced the news Saturday, revealing that Beterbiev and Bivol will fight on June 1 in Saudi Arabia.
The event will also showcase the previously announced “five-versus-five” card featuring fighters from rival British promoters Matchroom Boxing and Queensberry Promotions.
In recent months, all signs have been pointing toward a bout between the WBC, WBO, and IBF champion Beterbiev and WBA titlist Bivol to be nearing a deal.
https://www.boxingscene.com/beterbiev-bivol-on-june-1-saudi-arabia-matchroom-vs-queensberry-5-vs-5-featured-on-undercard--181193
This is going to be a unification fight, both are undefeated, Beterbiev still looks scary at his age, while Bivol is cool with his defeat of Canelo.
Who you got in this fight?
I think it will be a very close fight but I'm seeing Beterbiev might edge Bivol in a 12 full rounds, perhaps a split decision win. I haven't check the odds for this fight though.
Same as what you are seeing, going to be very close fight. Beterbiev though has been in a lot of this tough fights and come up on top without going into the judges scorecard.
So Bivol might uses his volume punching, but if he will be caught by Beterbiev in the middle round, just like in the Yarde fight, It will be over in 10 rounds. Bivol might find success early, but Beterviev engine could get hot in round 4 and up and then will keep the pressure on Bivol. Canelo wasn't able to pressure Bivol and that is a wrong strategy for him that's why Bivol felt confident and and score a upset win. But Beterbiev is a different boxer and with power, it's hard to avoid that in 12 rounds.
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Filip is a younger and looks like he could KO Usyk. this is a bigger risk for Usyk.
what Bisping is saying that the event is going to be canceled because Usyk will also deny Filip because he is after a bigger payday than what he could get if he fights Fury. how disappointing can this be. but i would also not ignore the fact that Fury had been avoiding Usyk since. if the theories are to be believed, this is a massive duck. ;D
the video does look like the elbow hit the jaw.
It is good that they didn't totally cancel the card and a replacement for Fury is better than no fight for Usyk at all.
I don't think that the youth of Filip could make him win the fight as Usyk is a technical fighter and betting Joshua twice is not an easy task for everyone in this division so i think Usyk will remain a champion after their Saudi fight in the coming weeks.
it is still very minimum to gain for Usyk to fight Filip but huge risk. he would prefer to wait even if it meant waiting a year. but its good to know they are just moving the schedule to May. i read the promotion will be adding $10M to boxers who will not back out in the event. i wouldn't let it pass if i were one of them. a generous offer like this is worth for everyone to just stick to the plan.
i think that cut above Fury's eyes will once gain open up this May.
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Filip is a younger and looks like he could KO Usyk. this is a bigger risk for Usyk.
what Bisping is saying that the event is going to be canceled because Usyk will also deny Filip because he is after a bigger payday than what he could get if he fights Fury. how disappointing can this be. but i would also not ignore the fact that Fury had been avoiding Usyk since. if the theories are to be believed, this is a massive duck. ;D
the video does look like the elbow hit the jaw.
It is good that they didn't totally cancel the card and a replacement for Fury is better than no fight for Usyk at all.
I don't think that the youth of Filip could make him win the fight as Usyk is a technical fighter and betting Joshua twice is not an easy task for everyone in this division so i think Usyk will remain a champion after their Saudi fight in the coming weeks.
it is still very minimum to gain for Usyk to fight Filip but huge risk. he would prefer to wait even if it meant waiting a year. but its good to know they are just moving the schedule to May. i read the promotion will be adding $10M to boxers who will not back out in the event. i wouldn't let it pass if i were one of them. a generous offer like this is worth for everyone to just stick to the plan.
i think that cut above Fury's eyes will once gain open up this May.
Yeah, risky but I think the compensation is worth the risk, imagine that Usyk will receive an additional $10M, that's huge, a 10 fights pay for an average boxer in this division.
That cut would be the target if he ever Usyk wins against Filip but it would not be easy to hit that part as for sure Fury will do his best to protect his eyes.
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The new date for the Fury Vs Usyk fight has been announced. It's scheduled to happen on 18th May. So a little over 3 months from now, not as bad as many have expected.
But it's getting more interesting this time:
Meanwhile, fight organiser Turki Al-Sheikh revealed that both boxers will face a $10m penalty if they withdraw in May, and that Anthony Joshua has agreed to step in if such a scenario occurs.
However, Joshua will only be paired with Fury, according to Al-Sheikh, who said Usyk can choose his opponent if Fury withdraws again.
Source: https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/boxing/fury-usyk-rescheduled-new-date-anthony-joshua-b2490193.html
AJ is fighting Ngannou in March, if he defeats him easily, many would probably prefer to see Fury fighting AJ instead of Usyk. Maybe Ngannou should get an offer to be a replacement option for Fury if he pulls out again ;D
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The new date for the Fury Vs Usyk fight has been announced. It's scheduled to happen on 18th May. So a little over 3 months from now, not as bad as many have expected.
I saw this news yesterday but this is a new twist from the organizer ;D
Joshua managed to sneak in as a backup fighter but that $10m penalty will make both fighters very careful now.
Date is much earlier than I expected, now I am sure Usyk will target Fury injured eye trying to open the cut if possible.
Anyone watching MMA with Diaz brothers knows how old cuts open and bleed much easier.
AJ is fighting Ngannou in March, if he defeats him easily, many would probably prefer to see Fury fighting AJ instead of Usyk. Maybe Ngannou should get an offer to be a replacement option for Fury if he pulls out again ;D
Yes please.
Now we need Ngannou to win against Joshua ;D
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Bivol and Beterbiev fight is on:
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This is going to be a unification fight, both are undefeated, Beterbiev still looks scary at his age, while Bivol is cool with his defeat of Canelo.
Who you got in this fight?
It doesn't get much better than this. Bivol is ranked 1st in the global ranking and Beterbiev is 2nd.
Both are undefeated, with 22 and 20 wins respectively. Beterbiew has an unbelievable 100% KO rate (Bivol 50%). It will be a massive challenge for Dmitrii, but my money will still be on him.
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Bivol and Beterbiev fight is on:
Artur Beterbiev and Dmitry Bivol will finally meet for a fight that will crown the undisputed light heavyweight champion.
Turki Alalshikh, the chairman of the General Entertainment Authority of Saudi Arabia, announced the news Saturday, revealing that Beterbiev and Bivol will fight on June 1 in Saudi Arabia.
The event will also showcase the previously announced “five-versus-five” card featuring fighters from rival British promoters Matchroom Boxing and Queensberry Promotions.
In recent months, all signs have been pointing toward a bout between the WBC, WBO, and IBF champion Beterbiev and WBA titlist Bivol to be nearing a deal.
https://www.boxingscene.com/beterbiev-bivol-on-june-1-saudi-arabia-matchroom-vs-queensberry-5-vs-5-featured-on-undercard--181193
This is going to be a unification fight, both are undefeated, Beterbiev still looks scary at his age, while Bivol is cool with his defeat of Canelo.
Who you got in this fight?
I think it will be a very close fight but I'm seeing Beterbiev might edge Bivol in a 12 full rounds, perhaps a split decision win. I haven't check the odds for this fight though.
Wow, this is the fight that i really wanted to see. Both Russsians are scary in this division though Bivol have the edge because of his youth but like you said, Beterbiev is still a force to reckon with. To be honest, i don't have the idea on whom to back as i'm a fan of both boxers.
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Bivol and Beterbiev fight is on:
(...)
This is going to be a unification fight, both are undefeated, Beterbiev still looks scary at his age, while Bivol is cool with his defeat of Canelo.
Who you got in this fight?
It doesn't get much better than this. Bivol is ranked 1st in the global ranking and Beterbiev is 2nd.
Both are undefeated, with 22 and 20 wins respectively. Beterbiew has an unbelievable 100% KO rate (Bivol 50%). It will be a massive challenge for Dmitrii, but my money will still be on him.
Yes and it's a battle between two Russians, and that's why it's going to be a solid fight indeed.
Beterbiev is one scary man, his looks alone and then his body, built like a tank. But we have the tall Bivol, with great IQ and again, upset Canelo when everyone write him off on that fight and says that he can't beat Canelo.
It's really hard to pick for now, but we all have our favorite already here in Beterbiev.
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Beterbiev is one scary man, his looks alone and then his body, built like a tank. But we have the tall Bivol, with great IQ and again, upset Canelo when everyone write him off on that fight and says that he can't beat Canelo.
It's really hard to pick for now, but we all have our favorite already here in Beterbiev.
The odds are identical, a perfect 50/50. Snippet from Unibet:
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/02/06/vF4i9.png)
Doesn't happen very often in boxing.
My favourite is Bivol. Beterbiev is scary indeed, but you're only as good as your opponent allows you, and Dmitrii has what it takes to stop him.
Honestly, I think it could be a better fight than Fury Vs Usyk.
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Beterbiev is one scary man, his looks alone and then his body, built like a tank. But we have the tall Bivol, with great IQ and again, upset Canelo when everyone write him off on that fight and says that he can't beat Canelo.
It's really hard to pick for now, but we all have our favorite already here in Beterbiev.
The odds are identical, a perfect 50/50. Snippet from Unibet:
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/02/06/vF4i9.png)
Doesn't happen very often in boxing.
My favourite is Bivol. Beterbiev is scary indeed, but you're only as good as your opponent allows you, and Dmitrii has what it takes to stop him.
Honestly, I think it could be a better fight than Fury Vs Usyk.
Thanks for the link,
See and the odds are right, right now boxing fans are divided as to who they are going to pick in this fight. Just like you said, your favorite is Bivol and I can't blame you for that if you are going to side with him in this fight.
As oppose to me wherein I reckon that Beterbiev is the better fighter and will here.
Hopefully we can hear what others are thinking, we might compare notes and have a healthy discussions. :)
No need to be argumentative or what, just pure boxing fans giving their thoughts about this great fight.
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Beterbiev is one scary man, his looks alone and then his body, built like a tank. But we have the tall Bivol, with great IQ and again, upset Canelo when everyone write him off on that fight and says that he can't beat Canelo.
It's really hard to pick for now, but we all have our favorite already here in Beterbiev.
The odds are identical, a perfect 50/50. Snippet from Unibet:
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/02/06/vF4i9.png)
Doesn't happen very often in boxing.
My favourite is Bivol. Beterbiev is scary indeed, but you're only as good as your opponent allows you, and Dmitrii has what it takes to stop him.
Honestly, I think it could be a better fight than Fury Vs Usyk.
As I have posted on the other board,
a. Beterbiev is the obvious heavier puncher, and recently he still shows that he can stop or knockout everyone in the LHW
b. Bivol is the younger fighter, taller and have the reach advantage perhaps. And he has one of the best wins against the cash cow in Canelo Alvarez. So at least we have seen him how his style can go against a aggressive fighter. Not saying that Beterbiev and Canelo has the same style, but both loves to attack and aggressive and Bivol was able to neutralize it by his volume punching.
But I thought that Beterbiev is going to be the favorite here, slight maybe, but the favorite. So I'm surprised that it's a 50:50 fight for sport bookies. Maybe they have thought that Bivol has beaten Canelo before and so they make the odds close as possible.
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Beterbiev is one scary man, his looks alone and then his body, built like a tank. But we have the tall Bivol, with great IQ and again, upset Canelo when everyone write him off on that fight and says that he can't beat Canelo.
It's really hard to pick for now, but we all have our favorite already here in Beterbiev.
The odds are identical, a perfect 50/50. Snippet from Unibet:
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/02/06/vF4i9.png)
Doesn't happen very often in boxing.
My favourite is Bivol. Beterbiev is scary indeed, but you're only as good as your opponent allows you, and Dmitrii has what it takes to stop him.
Honestly, I think it could be a better fight than Fury Vs Usyk.
Interesting odds but i expected this because both are talented boxers and neither of them had a clear edge over the other though Beterbiev is older than Bivol but his physical attributes doesn't show that he is now 38 years old.
Fury vs Usyk is also an interesting fight and they have the attention of the boxing community because their division (heavyweight) is special at least for me hehe.
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(...) Beterbiev is older than Bivol but his physical attributes doesn't show that he is now 38 years old.
I believe he's 39 now, so close to the normal retirement age, but could as well still perform great for another 2-3 years. People age differently and with the current medical knowledge and proper nutrition, boxers "shelf-life" can be extended.
Fury vs Usyk is also an interesting fight and they have the attention of the boxing community because their division (heavyweight) is special at least for me hehe.
Oh for sure. It's going to be a great year for boxing, which lost a lot of fans to MMA etc but seems to be making a comeback.
b. Bivol is the younger fighter, taller and have the reach advantage perhaps. And he has one of the best wins against the cash cow in Canelo Alvarez. So at least we have seen him how his style can go against a aggressive fighter. Not saying that Beterbiev and Canelo has the same style, but both loves to attack and aggressive and Bivol was able to neutralize it by his volume punching.
Agree. These were my thoughts too. If Bivol managed to dominate Canelo, he surely can do the same to Beterbiev.
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Teo Lopez vs Jamaine Ortiz weigh-in video,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLnLIDgbpWQ
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLnLIDgbpWQ)
Both make the weight requirements in this fight, 139.6 lbs.
So another good fight this weekend to fight, Ortiz though still a huge 5:1 underdog in this fight. Both look in shape and sharp, but I'm expecting the take over to win this fight.
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Teo Lopez vs Jamaine Ortiz weigh-in video,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLnLIDgbpWQ
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLnLIDgbpWQ)
Both make the weight requirements in this fight, 139.6 lbs.
So another good fight this weekend to fight, Ortiz though still a huge 5:1 underdog in this fight. Both look in shape and sharp, but I'm expecting the take over to win this fight.
I don't know, but it might be good to throw some money on the underdog Ortiz?
Style makes fight and I think that Ortiz might give Teo a hard time early on in this fight just like what he did against Loma. And I'm not sure if there will be rehydration clause here. If none then I think Ortiz will be the bigger guy, IMHO.
So it might not be as easy fight for Teo as everyone might have thought, at least this is how I would see the fight that Ortiz will have a chance and that odds should be at least closer.
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Teo Lopez vs Jamaine Ortiz weigh-in video,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLnLIDgbpWQ
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLnLIDgbpWQ)
Both make the weight requirements in this fight, 139.6 lbs.
So another good fight this weekend to fight, Ortiz though still a huge 5:1 underdog in this fight. Both look in shape and sharp, but I'm expecting the take over to win this fight.
I don't know, but it might be good to throw some money on the underdog Ortiz?
Style makes fight and I think that Ortiz might give Teo a hard time early on in this fight just like what he did against Loma. And I'm not sure if there will be rehydration clause here. If none then I think Ortiz will be the bigger guy, IMHO.
So it might not be as easy fight for Teo as everyone might have thought, at least this is how I would see the fight that Ortiz will have a chance and that odds should be at least closer.
For me its good to throw some few dollars on the underdog Ortiz as Teo for me is unpredictable in his fights. Unpredictable in the sense that if he fight a non-popular, his performance is not so impressive while on a championship fight where we expected him to lose, he showed up and give us an impressive fight. Ortiz is a keep busy fight for him so i think his performance here will be sub par, just my thought.
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Ortiz by Decision 13.00 on Stake. the bookie doesn't allow you to bet on him for bigger amount actually, a few USD won't hurt. but Teo still is the bigger puncher between the 2. it counts because it can win the fight. if its all he got, just one shot could turn the things around.
i would probably try the multibet by just picking few who has the highest KO ratings. who knows, this few USD can turn to thousands. this is the list of the full card.
(https://i.imgur.com/VlvM1z1.jpeg)
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^^ Lol at the picture of Pedraza there, hehehe.
Yeah, Ortiz is a huge underdog in this fight and although I think Teo might get the win here, but still if you love underdogs, Ortiz will be the perfect definition of it. Keyshawn Davis too at 135 lbs could be a good fight to watch against Pedraza.
He could be the next main man at this division, although it still has the best, Tank Davis and then Shakur Stevenson.
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There's not much option on this fight between Lopez vs Ortiz so i will just go for "under 8.5" @3.0. Though i have a feeling that this would end via decision but throwing a few dollars for that odds i think is worth the risk since Teo Lopez is a knockout artist.
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/02/09/vyRyG.jpeg)
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There's not much option on this fight between Lopez vs Ortiz so i will just go for "under 8.5" @3.0. Though i have a feeling that this would end via decision but throwing a few dollars for that odds i think is worth the risk since Teo Lopez is a knockout artist.
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/02/09/vyRyG.jpeg)
To be honest I didn't bet on this fight mate, as I know that Teo is going to win and that it can go to full 12 rounds but it doesn't have any value on it.
And as expected, he win and others says its a boring fight. And I can't blame them, Ortiz doesn't want to engage Lopez and he thought that he can win with that strategy of catching and then running.
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It's been obvious for a long time that Teo needs to switch trainers. He is too stubborn to actually do it but I don't see him going much further with Teo Sr. in his corner. With just a little bit of slickness any fighter can make him look bad. Because of his flaws and how much he thinks he's worth, there isn't too many options for him right now. Teofimo vs. Subriel Matias is a fight I would really like to see.
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Ryan Garcia vs Devin Haney on April 20,
BoxingScene.com has confirmed that a deal was reached for the pair of young stars to meet atop an April 20 DAZN pay-per-view event. Both sides acknowledged to Boxing Scene that advanced talks rapidly progressed to agreed terms, in line with breaking news reports from Daily Star’s Chris McKenna and ESPN’s Mike Coppinger of the bout’s status.
Haney will defend his WBC junior welterweight title versus Garcia at a location to be determined in Las Vegas.
https://www.boxingscene.com/devin-haney-ryan-garcia-reach-terms-wbc-title-fight-headline-april-20-dazn-ppv-las-vegas--181316
Great fight for boxing fans, we have been hearing the name of Ryan Garcia lately and so this is the result of Ryan being in social media, hehehe. He can create the fight that he wanted.
So it was a blessing in disguise that Romero back down on their negotiations.
And then Haney accepting this challenge, his belt on the line to make this mega fight.
Garcia is a huge betting underdog as initially listed, 5:1.
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There's not much option on this fight between Lopez vs Ortiz so i will just go for "under 8.5" @3.0. Though i have a feeling that this would end via decision but throwing a few dollars for that odds i think is worth the risk since Teo Lopez is a knockout artist.
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To be honest I didn't bet on this fight mate, as I know that Teo is going to win and that it can go to full 12 rounds but it doesn't have any value on it.
And as expected, he win and others says its a boring fight. And I can't blame them, Ortiz doesn't want to engage Lopez and he thought that he can win with that strategy of catching and then running.
Just trying my luck there bro but Teo has been exposed big time in that fight. He got easily frustrated by the hit-and-run style of Ortiz and failed to cut the gap or cornered Ortiz. He can't expect every boxer to come to him and slug it out. Luckily for him, the judges gave him the fight as per Compubox, Ortiz has more punches landed than him.
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And now we have a huge fight at 140 lbs, Haney vs Garcia.
Last time I check the odds, it's Haney that is a huge favorite in this fight. But I will give Garcia a slight chance to win if he can hit that left hook of him. He had lived with it, he try to used it against Tank, but Tank is wise and smaller and so it's very hard to execute it perfectly.
But against Haney who is the same height with him, who knows, he might able to slip some and see if Haney is stronger as this weight division as he is not known to have a good chin.
And there is a pre-fight brawl already: https://talksport.com/sport/1744379/devin-haney-ryan-garcia-brawl-super-bowl/
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And now we have a huge fight at 140 lbs, Haney vs Garcia.
Last time I check the odds, it's Haney that is a huge favorite in this fight. But I will give Garcia a slight chance to win if he can hit that left hook of him. He had lived with it, he try to used it against Tank, but Tank is wise and smaller and so it's very hard to execute it perfectly.
But against Haney who is the same height with him, who knows, he might able to slip some and see if Haney is stronger as this weight division as he is not known to have a good chin.
And there is a pre-fight brawl already: https://talksport.com/sport/1744379/devin-haney-ryan-garcia-brawl-super-bowl/
Not sure about the brawl though, it looks like as setup to me. But in any case, and as I have said, Garcia is a long shot here, Haney's weight is no longer a problem for him at 140 lbs and his punch had some power now, he knock down Prograis in their last fight.
Money wise, this is great for them. Millions again for Ryan and could be another blockbuster in terms of PPV numbers.
Still a lot of time to digest the fight before we sealed our bet here. And maybe Garcia can close up that gap so for Garcia fights, this early is a good time to bet.
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And now we have a huge fight at 140 lbs, Haney vs Garcia.
Last time I check the odds, it's Haney that is a huge favorite in this fight. But I will give Garcia a slight chance to win if he can hit that left hook of him. He had lived with it, he try to used it against Tank, but Tank is wise and smaller and so it's very hard to execute it perfectly.
But against Haney who is the same height with him, who knows, he might able to slip some and see if Haney is stronger as this weight division as he is not known to have a good chin.
And there is a pre-fight brawl already: https://talksport.com/sport/1744379/devin-haney-ryan-garcia-brawl-super-bowl/
They have been bitter rivals since the amateur days, and maybe Ryan is envy of what Devin Haney has accomplished already. Unified champion at 135 lbs, which only Ryan can dream and the becoming a champion now as 140 lbs.
And now he challenge him for the belt and it's a total weight class as both are huge boxers and they can even mature and go as high as welterweight or even super welterweight. But the rival should be tested right now and I wouldn't be surprised since Haney, as they said feather fisted, might actually score a ko win here.
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And now he challenge him for the belt and it's a total weight class as both are huge boxers and they can even mature and go as high as welterweight or even super welterweight. But the rival should be tested right now and I wouldn't be surprised since Haney, as they said feather fisted, might actually score a ko win here.
A knockout victory for Haney is a slim possibility for me since i don't think he would risk himself slugging out with Ryan Garcia whom we knew could knockout opponents with one punch. I think Haney would wisely use the ring just to avoid Garcia's deadly left hooks.
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And now he challenge him for the belt and it's a total weight class as both are huge boxers and they can even mature and go as high as welterweight or even super welterweight. But the rival should be tested right now and I wouldn't be surprised since Haney, as they said feather fisted, might actually score a ko win here.
A knockout victory for Haney is a slim possibility for me since i don't think he would risk himself slugging out with Ryan Garcia whom we knew could knockout opponents with one punch. I think Haney would wisely use the ring just to avoid Garcia's deadly left hooks.
Haney also have the reach advantage which the bout would probably end Haney by decision. Haney seem to be anxious with his record so its the most probable outcome of that fight. He will not stand his ground, utilize footwork and move away but also use his reach advantage.
it would be fun to see an unexpected result though. Haney knocking down Ryan would be fun to watch. it will destroy Ryan's career from then on.
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Haney also have the reach advantage which the bout would probably end Haney by decision. Haney seem to be anxious with his record so its the most probable outcome of that fight. He will not stand his ground, utilize footwork and move away but also use his reach advantage.
it would be fun to see an unexpected result though. Haney knocking down Ryan would be fun to watch. it will destroy Ryan's career from then on.
Ryan Garcia's career was already destroyed by Tank Davis that is why he did not hesitate to call out Devin Haney because he has the puncher's chance while the money is massive too unlike fighting another unknown where the risk of losing is high but the reward is low.
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And now he challenge him for the belt and it's a total weight class as both are huge boxers and they can even mature and go as high as welterweight or even super welterweight. But the rival should be tested right now and I wouldn't be surprised since Haney, as they said feather fisted, might actually score a ko win here.
A knockout victory for Haney is a slim possibility for me since i don't think he would risk himself slugging out with Ryan Garcia whom we knew could knockout opponents with one punch. I think Haney would wisely use the ring just to avoid Garcia's deadly left hooks.
I agree, even if he knock down Prograis, the power should still favor Ryan Garcia here. And that's what makes Ryan Garcia deadly in this fight because of the vaunted left hook. And I think his trainer will play a big role here, he is now under Derrick James, and based on his last fight, it was a different Ryan that we have seen, he tries to be slick just like what other boxers in the stable of James, hehehe.
So it's a good sign that he is focusing more of his lateral movement because that is one of his weakness. His power is already there, he just need to perfectly executed it and then let's see how Haney will react to that power, if Garcia can land early.
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I agree, even if he knock down Prograis, the power should still favor Ryan Garcia here. And that's what makes Ryan Garcia deadly in this fight because of the vaunted left hook. And I think his trainer will play a big role here, he is now under Derrick James, and based on his last fight, it was a different Ryan that we have seen, he tries to be slick just like what other boxers in the stable of James, hehehe.
So it's a good sign that he is focusing more of his lateral movement because that is one of his weakness. His power is already there, he just need to perfectly executed it and then let's see how Haney will react to that power, if Garcia can land early.
I hope Garcia would land those hooks and hurt Devin Haney early so he can gain momentum into the championship rounds because if Ryan Garcia fails to hurt/knockout Haney he will lose to the latter via decision.
There is still time to work on those lateral movements to make him slick but if only he has a solid chin, no need to develop/improve his exissting laterals hehe.
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I agree, even if he knock down Prograis, the power should still favor Ryan Garcia here. And that's what makes Ryan Garcia deadly in this fight because of the vaunted left hook. And I think his trainer will play a big role here, he is now under Derrick James, and based on his last fight, it was a different Ryan that we have seen, he tries to be slick just like what other boxers in the stable of James, hehehe.
So it's a good sign that he is focusing more of his lateral movement because that is one of his weakness. His power is already there, he just need to perfectly executed it and then let's see how Haney will react to that power, if Garcia can land early.
I hope Garcia would land those hooks and hurt Devin Haney early so he can gain momentum into the championship rounds because if Ryan Garcia fails to hurt/knockout Haney he will lose to the latter via decision.
There is still time to work on those lateral movements to make him slick but if only he has a solid chin, no need to develop/improve his exissting laterals hehe.
Not sure about the solid chin, but he did absorb some before and was even knock down by Luke Campbell. But Ryan shows resiliency on that fight, get up from the canvass and won. And it just shows that Ryan can take punches and have good recovery from it.
But for Haney, he has been hurt before, and almost knock down. But this is 140 lbs, so it could be a very different story. But I still have Ryan has the punchers chance against Haney if he can hit that left hook of him, flush.
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I already posted it on the other thread,
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/02/16/Yw3MD.png)
https://www.boxingscene.com/josh-taylor-vs-jack-catterall-rematch-finalized-april-27-leeds--181453
But I think for some members here who are fans of both, it's good to also see and discussed it here. Yeah, it's a rematch between this two, long overdue but I guess still good as they really hate each other here.
I might give Catterall the advantage in this rematch, I think Josh is no longer in his prime and he admitted that he has problems making weight at 140 lbs when he lost to Teo so I was surprised to see the fight going at this weight.
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I might give Catterall the advantage in this rematch, I think Josh is no longer in his prime and he admitted that he has problems making weight at 140 lbs when he lost to Teo so I was surprised to see the fight going at this weight.
Same here, i'll be backing Catterall since i think the first fight could go either way and with the recent performance of Josh Taylor which was not impressive against Teo Lopez, chances are he is going to lose this one. Josh Taylor is not on his prime anymore, this might be his last before retiring if he loses.
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With regards to Nova vs Foster fight, O’Shaquie has again need to rally late and beat Nova on the score cards, but it was thru UD.
Scores were Judge John McKaie scored 114-113 for Nova, Mark Constantino’s 115-112 and Kevin Morgan’s 116-111 for Foster. And with this win, Foster he had retain his belt again.
Foster target is to at least unify the belt, or maybe him the man his props and rematch Nova.
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Takuma Inoue vs Jerwin Ancajas
One week more to go and we can see this fight on a Saturday night, unlike most fights that they held on a weekday. Odds are out and as expected Ancajas is the underdog. Though i see a little chance of him upsetting the homeboy but i will still be backing him with a few dollars.
Ancajas ML @3.05
Inoue ML @1.35
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Takuma Inoue vs Jerwin Ancajas
One week more to go and we can see this fight on a Saturday night, unlike most fights that they held on a weekday. Odds are out and as expected Ancajas is the underdog. Though i see a little chance of him upsetting the homeboy but i will still be backing him with a few dollars.
Ancajas ML @3.05
Inoue ML @1.35
Yes, huge underdog but we all know that Takuma is not Inoue, which means he is beatable as he lost to Nordine a few years ago in Japan. And it just so happen that our boy Jerwin might attempt that one again, to beat him in his own native country.
Definitely, there will be value in our money here if Jerwin will upset Inoue.
And we will back him up no matter what, whether he is the underdog or not. Yes, it's in Japan so fights are not going to be held on weekend which is the usually fight night in the US.
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I might give Catterall the advantage in this rematch, I think Josh is no longer in his prime and he admitted that he has problems making weight at 140 lbs when he lost to Teo so I was surprised to see the fight going at this weight.
Same here, i'll be backing Catterall since i think the first fight could go either way and with the recent performance of Josh Taylor which was not impressive against Teo Lopez, chances are he is going to lose this one. Josh Taylor is not on his prime anymore, this might be his last before retiring if he loses.
I'll go with the opposite here, I think Josh will win this fight. Josh is a different level when he used to dominate this division, let's not forget that he beat all the great champion here and unified.
Maybe he lost his lust already when he accomplished it, but against his rival and with so many fans going to watch this fight in Leeds, it can motivate him to really shut up the mouth of Catterall for good with a big win here.
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Josh Taylor and Jack Catterall face-off:
They really hate each other hehehe, good for promotion though, but I don't think they need it in UK. They are already known in their country as domestic rivals but it gets the fans pump up for this fight.
As both of them wanted to take each other heads off even in the face-off, hehehehe.
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Josh Taylor and Jack Catterall face-off:
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They really hate each other hehehe, good for promotion though, but I don't think they need it in UK. They are already known in their country as domestic rivals but it gets the fans pump up for this fight.
As both of them wanted to take each other heads off even in the face-off, hehehehe.
Haha, another antics to sell the fight. Yeah they are already quite popular in the United Kingdom but an act like this could spark more interest to the ordinary fans of boxing in their place. Josh Taylor was coming from a lose so he need to sell himself more than Jack Catterall.
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Josh Taylor and Jack Catterall face-off:
~snip~
They really hate each other hehehe, good for promotion though, but I don't think they need it in UK. They are already known in their country as domestic rivals but it gets the fans pump up for this fight.
As both of them wanted to take each other heads off even in the face-off, hehehehe.
Haha, another antics to sell the fight. Yeah they are already quite popular in the United Kingdom but an act like this could spark more interest to the ordinary fans of boxing in their place. Josh Taylor was coming from a lose so he need to sell himself more than Jack Catterall.
Yes, it looks like they wanted to sell the fight by acting tough in the initial face off. Or it's that this is personal for Jack as he has been deprived of the rematch by Josh Taylor and Josh seems to be mocking him and his trainer.
So let's see how it goes here, hopefully they can live up the hype just like those other fighters from England who talk so much trash but then doesn't show anything in the ring.
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There are a lot of reports getting in like,
Canelo vs Munguia being offered to him with a $35 million guaranteed purse. Or Canelo choosing Charlo, no reports of how much he is getting, but this is what we have been hearing as the most likely route for Canelo.
And if no Canelo fight for David Benavidez, it is already circulating that he is moving to LHW and fighting the winner of the Bivol vs. Beterbiev.
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There are a lot of reports getting in like,
Canelo vs Munguia being offered to him with a $35 million guaranteed purse. Or Canelo choosing Charlo, no reports of how much he is getting, but this is what we have been hearing as the most likely route for Canelo.
And if no Canelo fight for David Benavidez, it is already circulating that he is moving to LHW and fighting the winner of the Bivol vs. Beterbiev.
I have read that article too that most likely Canelo will fight Munguia next and with that kind of amount and the not so impressive performance of Munguia on his last fight, probably Team Canelo will take this route rather than a fight with David Benavidez which is for me a 50-50 fight.
Cherry picking once again.
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There are a lot of reports getting in like,
Canelo vs Munguia being offered to him with a $35 million guaranteed purse. Or Canelo choosing Charlo, no reports of how much he is getting, but this is what we have been hearing as the most likely route for Canelo.
And if no Canelo fight for David Benavidez, it is already circulating that he is moving to LHW and fighting the winner of the Bivol vs. Beterbiev.
I saw that on my feed David Stated that he has his legacy and a show of his own to create so he need not or cannot wait for Canelo's availability, David could probably ruin Canelo's legacy because this guy is as tough as a nut, he is one pressure fighters that is hard to counter, the size difference is just enormous and Canelo's team is fully aware of that so he opted for a not popular choice which is the other Charlo.
It seems Canelo wants to hold on to those titles that he is cherry-picking his opponent.
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I do agree with you all, Canelo is now cherry picking his opponents and even if he is offered big money, he is clearly ducking Benavidez.
Speaking of Benavidez it is reported that he will be fighting Oleksandr Gvozdyk.
David Benavidez will continue to forge his own path.
The Ring has learned that plans are in place for the unbeaten former two-time WBC super middleweight titlist to next face Ukraine’s Oleksandr Gvozdyk, in a fight that would carry the interim WBC light heavyweight title.
https://www.ringtv.com/665241-david-benavidez-continues-to-target-canelo-oleksandr-gvozdyk-lined-up-as-contingency/#google_vignette
What's your thoughts on this one?
Winnable fight yet, but will it add something to David's legacy? Although the plan is to go and fight the winner of the superbowl of LHW division, Beterbiev vs. Bivol fight.
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I do agree with you all, Canelo is now cherry picking his opponents and even if he is offered big money, he is clearly ducking Benavidez.
Speaking of Benavidez it is reported that he will be fighting Oleksandr Gvozdyk.
David Benavidez will continue to forge his own path.
The Ring has learned that plans are in place for the unbeaten former two-time WBC super middleweight titlist to next face Ukraine’s Oleksandr Gvozdyk, in a fight that would carry the interim WBC light heavyweight title.
https://www.ringtv.com/665241-david-benavidez-continues-to-target-canelo-oleksandr-gvozdyk-lined-up-as-contingency/#google_vignette
What's your thoughts on this one?
Winnable fight yet, but will it add something to David's legacy? Although the plan is to go and fight the winner of the superbowl of LHW division, Beterbiev vs. Bivol fight.
If David Benavidez fails to land a fight with Canelo as the latter is doing its best to avoid him then Gvozdyk is a keep busy fight for him and yes this will add to his legacy if he continues his winning streak. Targeting the winner of Bivol vs Beterbiev is also a good one but risky one.
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I posted this on the other thread,
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/02/24/YhFld.png)
https://twitter.com/RyanGarcia/status/1761166060751929635
Ryan wanted his fight in Las Vegas, but GBP says that it's going to be in Barclays Center. I don't know what's wrong with Barclays since it has also a capacity of 20,000 people or at least around that numbers.
Maybe he is not comfortable though and really prefer Las Vegas as his place to fight or at least it in in West Coast.
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Inoue vs Ancajas:
End of round 4 and it seems not a good fight for our Filipino champ as he was always hit with Inoue's counters. Have all the round for Inoue and I think the judges as well, the only thing for Ancajas to win this fight is via knockout.
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Inoue vs Ancajas:
End of round 4 and it seems not a good fight for our Filipino champ as he was always hit with Inoue's counters. Have all the round for Inoue and I think the judges as well, the only thing for Ancajas to win this fight is via knockout.
It's over mate, Inoue won by a knockout, that body shot, Ancajas can't take it.
Unfortunately, that's it for Jerwin, he doesn't have the pop against Inoue. This is winnable fight for him, but it is what it is. Inoue is too much for him. Time for Ancajas now to take a rest and maybe think what will be the next move.
He will have to take tune up fights again but not sure if he will be given a chance to fight for a belt in the next couple of years.
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Inoue vs Ancajas:
End of round 4 and it seems not a good fight for our Filipino champ as he was always hit with Inoue's counters. Have all the round for Inoue and I think the judges as well, the only thing for Ancajas to win this fight is via knockout.
We all know what happened two prominent Filipino fighters just lost their respective matches in the same way, a well-placed kidney punch, Sultan looks good and is ready to go toe to toe until he is hit with a perfectly placed kidney punch and Ancajas is also tying to go toe to toe but a body punch find its way in the left side of the body.
This is a disheartening loss the Filipino boxing community had high hopes in this event but unfortunately, it didn't go their way, lets see what's stored for these two boxers in the future.
This is the perfectly timed body punch by Matsuda on Sultan https://www.facebook.com/stories/107685901948323/
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In the context of Ngannou Vs Joshua, the PFL announced (as a BREAKING NEWS) that Francis will return to MMA and will face the winner of Renan Ferriera vs Ryan Bader fight:
https://bloodyelbow.com/2024/02/22/francis-ngannous-first-pfl-fight/
PFL's tweet:
https://twitter.com/PFLMMA/status/1760729268596920462
Is it a sign that Ngannou doesn't have high hopes for his boxing career - I don't know. But apparently, his PFL contract doesn't prevent him from competing in boxing. So maybe he intends to compete in both sports simultaneously, or maybe his return to MMA is contingent on the result of his fight against AJ.
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Inoue vs Ancajas:
End of round 4 and it seems not a good fight for our Filipino champ as he was always hit with Inoue's counters. Have all the round for Inoue and I think the judges as well, the only thing for Ancajas to win this fight is via knockout.
It's over mate, Inoue won by a knockout, that body shot, Ancajas can't take it.
Unfortunately, that's it for Jerwin, he doesn't have the pop against Inoue. This is winnable fight for him, but it is what it is. Inoue is too much for him. Time for Ancajas now to take a rest and maybe think what will be the next move.
He will have to take tune up fights again but not sure if he will be given a chance to fight for a belt in the next couple of years.
I thought that it was the other way around when Ancajas was trying to go to the body of Inoue and he had some success by doing that but when Inoue countered with a body attack of his own, Ancajas just knell down and the fight is over, what a sad day for Philippine boxing. Sultan and Ancajas lost their respective fights and I guess it's time for them to hang the gloves, what do you think.
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Inoue vs Ancajas:
End of round 4 and it seems not a good fight for our Filipino champ as he was always hit with Inoue's counters. Have all the round for Inoue and I think the judges as well, the only thing for Ancajas to win this fight is via knockout.
It's over mate, Inoue won by a knockout, that body shot, Ancajas can't take it.
Unfortunately, that's it for Jerwin, he doesn't have the pop against Inoue. This is winnable fight for him, but it is what it is. Inoue is too much for him. Time for Ancajas now to take a rest and maybe think what will be the next move.
He will have to take tune up fights again but not sure if he will be given a chance to fight for a belt in the next couple of years.
I thought that it was the other way around when Ancajas was trying to go to the body of Inoue and he had some success by doing that but when Inoue countered with a body attack of his own, Ancajas just knell down and the fight is over, what a sad day for Philippine boxing. Sultan and Ancajas lost their respective fights and I guess it's time for them to hang the gloves, what do you think.
I think they can still fight, but not sure if they can be a world champion again. But we have to accept it, we need to developed more boxers from the South and hopefully we can see another Manny Pacquiao.
Dave Apolinario though won his fight, not after he himself gets knockdown.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lIEGtHHS-4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lIEGtHHS-4)
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Inoue vs Ancajas:
End of round 4 and it seems not a good fight for our Filipino champ as he was always hit with Inoue's counters. Have all the round for Inoue and I think the judges as well, the only thing for Ancajas to win this fight is via knockout.
It's over mate, Inoue won by a knockout, that body shot, Ancajas can't take it.
Unfortunately, that's it for Jerwin, he doesn't have the pop against Inoue. This is winnable fight for him, but it is what it is. Inoue is too much for him. Time for Ancajas now to take a rest and maybe think what will be the next move.
He will have to take tune up fights again but not sure if he will be given a chance to fight for a belt in the next couple of years.
I thought that it was the other way around when Ancajas was trying to go to the body of Inoue and he had some success by doing that but when Inoue countered with a body attack of his own, Ancajas just knell down and the fight is over, what a sad day for Philippine boxing. Sultan and Ancajas lost their respective fights and I guess it's time for them to hang the gloves, what do you think.
I think they can still fight, but not sure if they can be a world champion again. But we have to accept it, we need to developed more boxers from the South and hopefully we can see another Manny Pacquiao.
Dave Apolinario though won his fight, not after he himself gets knockdown.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lIEGtHHS-4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lIEGtHHS-4)
I saw the highlights of that fight, Dave Apolinario is regarding as one of the best prospects that we have in the Philippines at the moment, hope his momentum will continue and also hope he will work out on why he was knockdown.
The scenario of Philippine boxing is good at the moment with only Casimero as the hope to bring back the title but he is not young anymore.
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In the context of Ngannou Vs Joshua, the PFL announced (as a BREAKING NEWS) that Francis will return to MMA and will face the winner of Renan Ferriera vs Ryan Bader fight:
https://bloodyelbow.com/2024/02/22/francis-ngannous-first-pfl-fight/
PFL's tweet:
https://twitter.com/PFLMMA/status/1760729268596920462
Is it a sign that Ngannou doesn't have high hopes for his boxing career - I don't know. But apparently, his PFL contract doesn't prevent him from competing in boxing. So maybe he intends to compete in both sports simultaneously, or maybe his return to MMA is contingent on the result of his fight against AJ.
they have it in their PFL contract afaik that Francis can still fight in boxing while he can also fight in PFL and this is due to him as part of PFL Africa ambassador. before Ngannou, PFL does get much coverage on big media but this time its reaching my feed already. Dana missed the opportunity of the biggest cross promotional event in combat sport.
AJ and Fury are the biggest names in boxing and its dragging Francis up to be counted as one as well. Francis is fighting the winner between Renan Ferriera vs Ryan Bader fight regardless of whether he wins against AJ. to me, this is like reassuring he will win.
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In the context of Ngannou Vs Joshua, the PFL announced (as a BREAKING NEWS) that Francis will return to MMA and will face the winner of Renan Ferriera vs Ryan Bader fight:
https://bloodyelbow.com/2024/02/22/francis-ngannous-first-pfl-fight/
PFL's tweet:
https://twitter.com/PFLMMA/status/1760729268596920462
Is it a sign that Ngannou doesn't have high hopes for his boxing career - I don't know. But apparently, his PFL contract doesn't prevent him from competing in boxing. So maybe he intends to compete in both sports simultaneously, or maybe his return to MMA is contingent on the result of his fight against AJ.
they have it in their PFL contract afaik that Francis can still fight in boxing while he can also fight in PFL and this is due to him as part of PFL Africa ambassador. before Ngannou, PFL does get much coverage on big media but this time its reaching my feed already. Dana missed the opportunity of the biggest cross promotional event in combat sport.
AJ and Fury are the biggest names in boxing and its dragging Francis up to be counted as one as well. Francis is fighting the winner between Renan Ferriera vs Ryan Bader fight regardless of whether he wins against AJ. to me, this is like reassuring he will win.
Yep, good to hear that Francis has a fall back and that it was nice to hear the PFL is willing to give Francis a free will to fight in boxing with AJ. And as we all know that this is the biggest fight for Francis as we have witnessed that he can fight with the big boys of boxing and even put them down in the canvass.
But obviously, there are more money in boxing and I think after the contract with PFL, he might go full pro in boxing and chase that dream to become a Heavyweight champion and that will be a history in the making.
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Is it a sign that Ngannou doesn't have high hopes for his boxing career - I don't know. But apparently, his PFL contract doesn't prevent him from competing in boxing. So maybe he intends to compete in both sports simultaneously, or maybe his return to MMA is contingent on the result of his fight against AJ.
There is nobody else who can do what Ngannou is doing, and he deserves to be respected for this.
Boxers are never going make adventure for less money in MMA, and other MMA fighters are not attractive for boxing champions.
I want to see Jon Jones in boxing, this could be dream supefight that never happened in MMA, but Dana wont allow him to do that ;D
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This youtube channel just showed on my feed
ProBoxTV:
It's live streaming what looks like fights of up and coming boxers. I've only watched 2 matches (8-rounder and 10-rounder) so far and I can say that the card is quite good. One fight was only spoiled by one of the judges scoring 98-91 to a closely contested bout.
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It's live streaming what looks like fights of up and coming boxers. I've only watched 2 matches (8-rounder and 10-rounder) so far and I can say that the card is quite good. One fight was only spoiled by one of the judges scoring 98-91 to a closely contested bout.
Yeah, right, looks like they are up and coming boxers and to be honest it's the first time i saw the names of those boxers and not seen any of them in a live fight.
About your rant of the judges scores, it always happens in boxing where the judges score a one-sided fight when we thought it was close, part of boxing politics.
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About your rant of the judges scores, it always happens in boxing where the judges score a one-sided fight when we thought it was close, part of boxing politics.
I think it's normal for Zed0X to feel disappointed with the jury's assessment, which makes him a bit angry and makes him say harsh words. The jury sometimes plays political money games given by several groups. The next judge is the boxer's strength. to challenge the jury's decision.
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There is nobody else who can do what Ngannou is doing, and he deserves to be respected for this.
Boxers are never going make adventure for less money in MMA, and other MMA fighters are not attractive for boxing champions.
I want to see Jon Jones in boxing, this could be dream supefight that never happened in MMA, but Dana wont allow him to do that ;D
From other threads I thought you wanted to see Ngannou fighting Jones in an MMA fight. Matching them up for a boxing bout would be a bizarre move (and extremely unlikely). They both are complete fighters reaching the top, so why would they limit themselves to just one element of their game? What would that prove anyway? That would not confirm who's a better fighter overall, we could as well set them up for a power slap competition.
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Have you guys seen this small but cool retro boxing video game Knockout Chaos?
You can choose to select one fighter Joshua or Ngannou and try to win in the fight.
This is cool way to promote this fight and it is free:
https://www.knockoutchaos.com/
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Have you guys seen this small but cool retro boxing video game Knockout Chaos?
You can choose to select one fighter Joshua or Ngannou and try to win in the fight.
This is cool way to promote this fight and it is free:
https://www.knockoutchaos.com/
Yes, seen this links for the other forum, it's old school kind of games and I do agree that it's way cooler to see this kind of promotions and it's brilliant to the people who think of it.
As for Canelo and who is he fighting, it could really be Berlanga. David Benavidez name is out of the picture, as Canelo is really avoiding him at this point and choosing easy opponents for this supposedly "legacy". So for me there is no legacy and obviously, Canelo is looking for easy pacheck, like in his last two fights of John Ryder and Charlo.
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As for Canelo and who is he fighting, it could really be Berlanga. David Benavidez name is out of the picture, as Canelo is really avoiding him at this point and choosing easy opponents for this supposedly "legacy". So for me there is no legacy and obviously, Canelo is looking for easy pacheck, like in his last two fights of John Ryder and Charlo.
Wow, cherry-picking at its best if indeed Canelo's next opponent is Berlanga as this boxer has not proven anything yet in this sweet science and to think that his last few performances were not impressive, how come they decided to bring him up as Canelo's next opponent, boxing politics again hehe.
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Link to promo game if anyone is interested: https://www.knockoutchaos.com/
credit to Jating (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5480577.msg63734438#msg63734438)
I had a go and managed to beat up Ngannou on the 2nd attempt.
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That's an interesting way of promoting a fight, I don't think anyone has done it in the past. They could have done a little better with playability, i.e. add body shots etc.
Only two days to go and not much has changed in terms of odds, AJ is still the favourite at x1.27, and betting on Francis you can get x3.75 which is not that much really considering it's only his 2nd boxing fight.
Link to the press conference:
Shorter version:
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^^ Yes saw the final press conference.
Ngannou is straight up gangsta when he talk to Fury and says that boxing rule protected him and that he will beat him twice in Sunday, hehehehe
Everyone for sure is very excited, just a couple of days from now and we will see it. There are group of boxing fans that think that Ngannou will have a great chance to knockout out Joshua if he can land that trade mark power of him.
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Report says that Canelo will be fighting Jaime Munguia next,
https://boxing-social.com/news/canelo-alvarez-jaime-munguia-two-networks/
And so two networks are going to cover this fight, and the last time we heard, this is the only issues that needs to be settled. I think this is still a easy fight for Canelo, no doubt that Munguia could be one of the best in the 168 lbs, but he is still too young to fight Canelo as this point of his career.
Although we have seen Canelo taking less risk in this career and this is another proof of it.
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Link to promo game if anyone is interested: https://www.knockoutchaos.com/
credit to Jating (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5480577.msg63734438#msg63734438)
Thanks for the mentioned mate, (+1 for you)
Yes, this fight is near now, the last press conference is done.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFx55fdyY8I (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFx55fdyY8I)
Both are in great shapes, and you can hear a lot of fans of both sides in attendance. For sure boxing fans are very excited to see this fight in the next 24 hours.
Ngannou 272.6 lbs
Joshua 252.4 lbs
That's a huge difference in weight, and I think it will play a big role in this fight.
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Only two days to go and not much has changed in terms of odds, AJ is still the favourite at x1.27, and betting on Francis you can get x3.75 which is not that much really considering it's only his 2nd boxing fight.
I want odds to drop more on Joshua so that I could take a bet on Ngannou with better odds.
Joshua doesnt look confident to me and I think he is a little concerned about this fight, defeat against Ngannou can ruin his carrier and shake up the boxing world.
Maybe this would be good for both sports and I know Dana White hate to see Ngannou win ;D
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Short video from official weight-ins and the face-off:
i=LU5LGwkRUBVHT7IG
Ngannou weighed 272.6 pounds (123.6 kg), while Joshua was 252.4 pounds (114.5 kg) (as Jating has already mentioned above). Francis is noticeably heavier, but that's not a very significant advantage for a heavyweight fight. His weight is almost the same as in the fight with Fury.
AJ has some height advantage, but Ngannou has already proven he knows how to deal with that.
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One more news: apparently Jake Paul (wannabe boxer slash youtuber) will be fighting Mike Tyson on 20th July.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/68504821
Tyson will be 58 at the date of the fight, Paul is 31 years younger than him (27 y.o). That's a huge age gap (possibly the biggest in boxing history?).
I am not surprised that Mike agreed to the fight, and from Paul's perspective that's also a good choice, as the fight is easy to hype, and if manages to avoid a KO by Tyson, he could then spin it as his success.
Any thoughts on that fight?
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One more news: apparently Jake Paul (wannabe boxer slash youtuber) will be fighting Mike Tyson on 20th July.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/68504821
Tyson will be 58 at the date of the fight, Paul is 31 years younger than him (27 y.o). That's a huge age gap (possibly the biggest in boxing history?).
I am not surprised that Mike agreed to the fight, and from Paul's perspective that's also a good choice, as the fight is easy to hype, and if manages to avoid a KO by Tyson, he could then spin it as his success.
Any thoughts on that fight?
At age 58, i don't think Mike Tyson could hurt Jake Paul even though he is just a wannabe boxer. But you are right, this fight is not hard to sell as people will not to see how Mike Tyson could perform in this stage of his life.
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One more news: apparently Jake Paul (wannabe boxer slash youtuber) will be fighting Mike Tyson on 20th July.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/68504821
Tyson will be 58 at the date of the fight, Paul is 31 years younger than him (27 y.o). That's a huge age gap (possibly the biggest in boxing history?).
I am not surprised that Mike agreed to the fight, and from Paul's perspective that's also a good choice, as the fight is easy to hype, and if manages to avoid a KO by Tyson, he could then spin it as his success.
Any thoughts on that fight?
At age 58, i don't think Mike Tyson could hurt Jake Paul even though he is just a wannabe boxer. But you are right, this fight is not hard to sell as people will not to see how Mike Tyson could perform in this stage of his life.
People are going to be excited hearing Mike Tyson going to fight again even it is just an exhibition match. I think Mike is still very active, we've seen him train Francis Ngannou against Tyson Fury.
And that famous defense of his, wobbling his head and the throwing that uppercut. Initial reports listed Jake Paul as the favorite, definitely he is the younger between the two the more active. But we all know that Tyson could still have that power behind his punch so we will see if that is true or not.
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One more news: apparently Jake Paul (wannabe boxer slash youtuber) will be fighting Mike Tyson on 20th July.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/68504821
Tyson will be 58 at the date of the fight, Paul is 31 years younger than him (27 y.o). That's a huge age gap (possibly the biggest in boxing history?).
I am not surprised that Mike agreed to the fight, and from Paul's perspective that's also a good choice, as the fight is easy to hype, and if manages to avoid a KO by Tyson, he could then spin it as his success.
Any thoughts on that fight?
At age 58, i don't think Mike Tyson could hurt Jake Paul even though he is just a wannabe boxer. But you are right, this fight is not hard to sell as people will not to see how Mike Tyson could perform in this stage of his life.
People are going to be excited hearing Mike Tyson going to fight again even it is just an exhibition match. I think Mike is still very active, we've seen him train Francis Ngannou against Tyson Fury.
And that famous defense of his, wobbling his head and the throwing that uppercut. Initial reports listed Jake Paul as the favorite, definitely he is the younger between the two the more active. But we all know that Tyson could still have that power behind his punch so we will see if that is true or not.
Most of the people that posted their comments in social media think that Jake Paul is in danger of this exhibition fight as Mike Tyson, though old but still got the power. IMHO, i don't think that could be the scenario as Jake Paul will be very mindful of Tyson's power so as much as he could, he will try to avoid Tyson's punches to touch him.
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I created this thread to discuss everything about boxing, schedule fights, odds and prediction. Might be good to have just one thread in this community. It might not be very big as the other forum, but as we grow maybe this thread will also move as there could be a lot of boxing fans around this forum.
https://www.boxingscene.com/manny-pacquiao-vs-buakaw-banchamek-exhibition-fight-set-april-20--180341
A date has been set down for the exhibition fight between Manny Pacquiao and Buakaw Banchamek.
According to the Banchamek Gym Facebook page, the date of April 20 has been finalized. The event is being organized by Thailand’s Fresh Air Festival Co Ltd and cinema operator SF Corporation.
The bout will be fought under traditional boxing rules.
So we will have the legendary Manny Pacquiao against another legend in Buakaw scheduled for April 20 this year.
Obviously, Manny will have the advantage here as the rules will be boxing and we all know that Manny during his prime is one of the best and always in the discussion for the GOAT.
Any thoughts on this fight?
Concerning boxing matches for this month and next month.for the month of March, we have one heavy weight and middleweight fight: Anthony Joshua vs Francis Ngannou, for the heavyweight fight why Tim Tszyu vs Keith Thurman for the middleweight.
For the month of April, we have to welterweight flights in the month of April:Devin Haney vs Ryan Gracia, and next Josh Taylor vs Jack Catterall .
What are your prediction concerning the fights
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Ngannou vs Joshua fight is starting soon and I am hoping to see biggest surprise ever in boxing world.
I love the good underdog story and Ngannou looked better to me in all pre fight interviews and faceoffs.
Both fighters learned something from previous fights but I think Joshua has much more to lose.
I want to see Ngannou vs Fury rematch next and for that Ngannou needs to win today
Here is my bet for this fight: https://sportsbet.io/sharebetslip/65eb88aa582784001fd934ea
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Ngannou vs Joshua fight is starting soon and I am hoping to see biggest surprise ever in boxing world.
I love the good underdog story and Ngannou looked better to me in all pre fight interviews and faceoffs.
Both fighters learned something from previous fights but I think Joshua has much more to lose.
I want to see Ngannou vs Fury rematch next and for that Ngannou needs to win today
Here is my bet for this fight: https://sportsbet.io/sharebetslip/65eb88aa582784001fd934ea
Good bet but for me if the fight goes the distance, AJ might win so for Ngannou to win he should be aggressive and knockout Joshua. AJ's confidence wasn't fully in him yet so a win by Ngannou is high at least for me.
Does the fight already started? I did not see the odds on sportsbet as of this writing.
edit: the fight already ended with AJ butally knocking out Francis.
https://twitter.com/bjpenndotcom/status/1766261771969703957
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Ngannou vs Joshua fight is starting soon and I am hoping to see biggest surprise ever in boxing world.
I love the good underdog story and Ngannou looked better to me in all pre fight interviews and faceoffs.
Both fighters learned something from previous fights but I think Joshua has much more to lose.
I want to see Ngannou vs Fury rematch next and for that Ngannou needs to win today
Here is my bet for this fight: https://sportsbet.io/sharebetslip/65eb88aa582784001fd934ea
Good bet but for me if the fight goes the distance, AJ might win so for Ngannou to win he should be aggressive and knockout Joshua. AJ's confidence wasn't fully in him yet so a win by Ngannou is high at least for me.
Does the fight already started? I did not see the odds on sportsbet as of this writing.
edit: the fight already ended with AJ butally knocking out Francis.
https://twitter.com/bjpenndotcom/status/1766261771969703957
Yes, what a devastating knockout by Joshua over Ngannou. We haven't thought that he could be as this dominated against a heavy puncher in Ngannou. But I guess Joshua's boxing experience and IQ are more evident in this fight as he didn't give any chance for Ngannou to make a comeback. But in second knockdown alone, you can see the demeanor of Francis has shifted and as if he knows that he is going to lose this fight. Similar to the looks of Manny Pacquiao when JMM knock him down surprisingly.
Good win by Joshua, now he sits and relaxes and for the outcome of Usyk vs Fury. Tyson is the favorite on that fight and so if that proves correct then we will see Joshua vs Fury next in Saudi Arabia again.
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What a brutal KO win that was!
I thought Ngannou will decide to take a break from boxing after this fight, but in post fight press conference he said absolutely not, he plans to continue boxing :o
Now we know that he can be defeated with a KO and everyone else will try to repeat the same when fighting against him.
If you didnt watch the full fight Ngannou vs Joshua it is enough to watch this few minute long highlights, but you can find full fight online:
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What a brutal KO win that was!
I thought Ngannou will decide to take a break from boxing after this fight, but in post fight press conference he said absolutely not, he plans to continue boxing :o
Now we know that he can be defeated with a KO and everyone else will try to repeat the same when fighting against him.
Yes, majority could have been disappointed of the outcome as Francis is no match against AJ. I think he can go back to PFL or that was the agreement that's why he was allowed to go to pro-boxer.
It's good to hear that he has no plans to stop boxing. Maybe he just experience waking up in the wrong side of the bed. Or Joshua is really that good and his timing in this fight is impeccable.
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Yes, majority could have been disappointed of the outcome as Francis is no match against AJ. I think he can go back to PFL or that was the agreement that's why he was allowed to go to pro-boxer.
It's good to hear that he has no plans to stop boxing. Maybe he just experience waking up in the wrong side of the bed. Or Joshua is really that good and his timing in this fight is impeccable.
Yeah, it's not that Francis is bad but Anthony Joshua was the better fighter that night and his timing was awesome. On the other hand, I think Francis Ngannou needs to fight B-level fighters before fighting a championship-caliber fighter like AJ or Fury.
I just wonder what's the odds of AJ winning by KO, have not browse the bookies lately for that fight.
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It's good to hear that he has no plans to stop boxing. Maybe he just experience waking up in the wrong side of the bed. Or Joshua is really that good and his timing in this fight is impeccable.
He learned a lot from Ngannou first fight against Tyson Fury so he was more careful and he was prepared with better tactics.
Ngannou rushed to much and he was over confident, that was the reason he finished on the ground so easy.
Good thing for Johsua is that he can now wait and prepare to face winner of Tyson Fury vs Oleksandr Usyk.
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It's good to hear that he has no plans to stop boxing. Maybe he just experience waking up in the wrong side of the bed. Or Joshua is really that good and his timing in this fight is impeccable.
He learned a lot from Ngannou first fight against Tyson Fury so he was more careful and he was prepared with better tactics.
Ngannou rushed to much and he was over confident, that was the reason he finished on the ground so easy.
Good thing for Johsua is that he can now wait and prepare to face winner of Tyson Fury vs Oleksandr Usyk.
Yes, it's more on Joshua's preparation in this fight. Joshua uses his tools this night and not allow Ngannou anything. Even if Ngannou switches to south paw, still Joshua adjusted as well.
And for me this should stop any MMA/UFC fighters from fighting boxers. We've seen already what could have happen. MMA/UFC fighters should stay in their boundaries, just saying.
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Breaking news:
Shakur Stevenson will come out of retirement and is expected to fight on July 6. His retirement is short-lived as expected.
Hope that he could perform well this coming July and prove to the fans that his last fight was just an off night.
https://www.boxingscene.com/shakur-stevenson-return-july-6-im-best-fighter-boxing--182087
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New boxing fight announced between two MMA fighters Jorge Masvid and Nate Diaz on June 1 in Los Angeles!
They already faced each other in UFC back in 2019 and I think Masvidal won with a KO, but it was a very bloody fight.
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New boxing fight announced between two MMA fighters Jorge Masvid and Nate Diaz on June 1 in Los Angeles!
They already faced each other in UFC back in 2019 and I think Masvidal won with a KO, but it was a very bloody fight.
Jorge might still win again but this is boxing. not sure how prepare these guys are when it comes to the gloves they are used to. it wasn't a close fight in their first encounter and masvidal obviously is in good shape still while diaz is way passed his prime this time. i doubt nate will win its amusing they call this a rematch but they are big personalities in MMA so there's got to be a big money to profit since there are still people interested to watch thats why the ppv price is $80? fvckit. :o
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Breaking news:
Shakur Stevenson will come out of retirement and is expected to fight on July 6. His retirement is short-lived as expected.
Hope that he could perform well this coming July and prove to the fans that his last fight was just an off night.
https://www.boxingscene.com/shakur-stevenson-return-july-6-im-best-fighter-boxing--182087
Gonna be interesting on who is he fighting next. I was under the impression that he might come out of the retirement and fight the winner of Loma vs Kambosos. However, as far as I know he no longer with Top Rank and has turn down their contract.
Or probably this is just a get busy fight for Shakur, and will still fight the winner of Loma vs Kambosos. Hopefully, it will be Loma, as the styles of this two are contrasting and we will see if Shakur's defense can hold up against the technical prowess sof Loma. But then again, Loma is could be old and his age might shows against George Kambosos.
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All boxing fans, these are the schedules of matches from the month of March to June 2024.
Which of the fight will be a must watch Fight, among the least of the fight from March to June 2024.
https://ibb.co/1Jr82Xj
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Sandy Ryan vs Terri Harper -WBO welterweight title, it's a great fight between two great fighter, will Terri Harper become the three times WBO welterweight champion if she can defeat sandy Ryan.
Saturday 23rd March, Utilita Arena Sheffield.
https://ibb.co/XtB1g3M
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encountered this news just today. its yet not fixed but it seem to be finalizing. Zhang fought 2 weeks ago with Parker and lost as undercard on AJ vs Francis Chaos but here they are planing to fight 3 months from now.
Deontay Wilder and Zhilei Zhang are in the process of finalizing a deal for a June 1 fight in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, sources told @mikecoppinger.
The bout will take place on the undercard of the Artur Beterbiev-Dmitry Bivol undisputed light heavyweight championship bout.
both lost against Parker by decision. i think anyone who wins this fight will get a rematch against Parker
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I have posted this in the other forum, but it's also better to post it here as we have boxing fans that has teleported,
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/03/23/Jpwad.png)
https://twitter.com/MichaelBensonn/status/1771550634942111745
What do you think guys? It seems that Turki Alalshikh has a beautiful plan. Forget Canelo for now, it will be David Benavidez to fight the winner of Bivol and Beterbiev and it will be held on Saudi or course.
We have speculated though that him moving at 175 lbs, sooner or later will have to face the winner of that great fight.
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I have posted this in the other forum, but it's also better to post it here as we have boxing fans that has teleported,
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https://twitter.com/MichaelBensonn/status/1771550634942111745
What do you think guys? It seems that Turki Alalshikh has a beautiful plan. Forget Canelo for now, it will be David Benavidez to fight the winner of Bivol and Beterbiev and it will be held on Saudi or course.
We have speculated though that him moving at 175 lbs, sooner or later will have to face the winner of that great fight.
Beautiful plan of Turki Alalshikh indeed and Benavidez is like winning the lottery without having to go through Canelo. The good thing about this Alalshikh is that he is very willing to shell out large amounts of money just to bring the best fights that fans wanted to see.
But this fight is going to be risky for Benavidez as either Bivol or Beterbiev is a monster at 175 so he must have a tune-up bout to acquaint himself to this division before facing the champion.
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I have posted this in the other forum, but it's also better to post it here as we have boxing fans that has teleported,
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https://twitter.com/MichaelBensonn/status/1771550634942111745
What do you think guys? It seems that Turki Alalshikh has a beautiful plan. Forget Canelo for now, it will be David Benavidez to fight the winner of Bivol and Beterbiev and it will be held on Saudi or course.
We have speculated though that him moving at 175 lbs, sooner or later will have to face the winner of that great fight.
Beautiful plan of Turki Alalshikh indeed and Benavidez is like winning the lottery without having to go through Canelo. The good thing about this Alalshikh is that he is very willing to shell out large amounts of money just to bring the best fights that fans wanted to see.
Yes, they have deep pockets, and we have seen the Saudis really sponsoring big fights since 2019 if I'm not mistaken. And with their billions, recently, they are the hub for big fans, except for some boxers that they don't like. And Eddie Hearn and other promoters are really into it, except Oscar Dela Hoya.
But this fight is going to be risky for Benavidez as either Bivol or Beterbiev is a monster at 175 so he must have a tune-up bout to acquaint himself to this division before facing the champion.
He had sparred with Bivol before, if I'm not mistaken. Not sure about Beterbiev. He will have a fight with Gvozdyk in June. But I guess it might be scrapped as well as he will be waiting for the result of Beterbiev vs Bivol and they might go this June.
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I have posted this in the other forum, but it's also better to post it here as we have boxing fans that has teleported,
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https://twitter.com/MichaelBensonn/status/1771550634942111745 (https://twitter.com/MichaelBensonn/status/1771550634942111745)
What do you think guys? It seems that Turki Alalshikh has a beautiful plan. Forget Canelo for now, it will be David Benavidez to fight the winner of Bivol and Beterbiev and it will be held on Saudi or course.
We have speculated though that him moving at 175 lbs, sooner or later will have to face the winner of that great fight.
Beautiful plan of Turki Alalshikh indeed and Benavidez is like winning the lottery without having to go through Canelo. The good thing about this Alalshikh is that he is very willing to shell out large amounts of money just to bring the best fights that fans wanted to see.
But this fight is going to be risky for Benavidez as either Bivol or Beterbiev is a monster at 175 so he must have a tune-up bout to acquaint himself to this division before facing the champion.
That's the advantage of the Saudi, they have a lot of money, and he is also really a big fan of boxing and knows that fight make sense and what fight is just for pure hype. And I like what David Benavidez did here, he engage Saudi's big boss through social media and so he has to respond to it. And the good thing is that he is all on-board with Benavidez and not Canelo. I think he see Canelo as somewhat arrogant boxer (this is just my speculation), just by interpreting his response. Nevertheless it's a great fight, no question about it. Benavidez vs Bivol, or Benavidez vs Beterbiev. A potential to be fight of the year.
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I have posted this in the other forum, but it's also better to post it here as we have boxing fans that has teleported,
~snip~
https://twitter.com/MichaelBensonn/status/1771550634942111745 (https://twitter.com/MichaelBensonn/status/1771550634942111745)
What do you think guys? It seems that Turki Alalshikh has a beautiful plan. Forget Canelo for now, it will be David Benavidez to fight the winner of Bivol and Beterbiev and it will be held on Saudi or course.
We have speculated though that him moving at 175 lbs, sooner or later will have to face the winner of that great fight.
Beautiful plan of Turki Alalshikh indeed and Benavidez is like winning the lottery without having to go through Canelo. The good thing about this Alalshikh is that he is very willing to shell out large amounts of money just to bring the best fights that fans wanted to see.
But this fight is going to be risky for Benavidez as either Bivol or Beterbiev is a monster at 175 so he must have a tune-up bout to acquaint himself to this division before facing the champion.
That's the advantage of the Saudi, they have a lot of money, and he is also really a big fan of boxing and knows that fight make sense and what fight is just for pure hype. And I like what David Benavidez did here, he engage Saudi's big boss through social media and so he has to respond to it. And the good thing is that he is all on-board with Benavidez and not Canelo. I think he see Canelo as somewhat arrogant boxer (this is just my speculation), just by interpreting his response. Nevertheless it's a great fight, no question about it. Benavidez vs Bivol, or Benavidez vs Beterbiev. A potential to be fight of the year.
Canelo, in an interview said that it would take 150-200 million usd for him to have a fight with Benavidez, that alone for me is a sign of arrogance and an act cowardness, no offense to Canelo fans but that is how some of us saw that one. Good thing that Saudi's big boss is not offerring the winner of Bivol vs Beterbiev to Canelo.
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I have posted this in the other forum, but it's also better to post it here as we have boxing fans that has teleported,
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https://twitter.com/MichaelBensonn/status/1771550634942111745 (https://twitter.com/MichaelBensonn/status/1771550634942111745)
What do you think guys? It seems that Turki Alalshikh has a beautiful plan. Forget Canelo for now, it will be David Benavidez to fight the winner of Bivol and Beterbiev and it will be held on Saudi or course.
We have speculated though that him moving at 175 lbs, sooner or later will have to face the winner of that great fight.
Beautiful plan of Turki Alalshikh indeed and Benavidez is like winning the lottery without having to go through Canelo. The good thing about this Alalshikh is that he is very willing to shell out large amounts of money just to bring the best fights that fans wanted to see.
But this fight is going to be risky for Benavidez as either Bivol or Beterbiev is a monster at 175 so he must have a tune-up bout to acquaint himself to this division before facing the champion.
That's the advantage of the Saudi, they have a lot of money, and he is also really a big fan of boxing and knows that fight make sense and what fight is just for pure hype. And I like what David Benavidez did here, he engage Saudi's big boss through social media and so he has to respond to it. And the good thing is that he is all on-board with Benavidez and not Canelo. I think he see Canelo as somewhat arrogant boxer (this is just my speculation), just by interpreting his response. Nevertheless it's a great fight, no question about it. Benavidez vs Bivol, or Benavidez vs Beterbiev. A potential to be fight of the year.
Canelo, in an interview said that it would take 150-200 million usd for him to have a fight with Benavidez, that alone for me is a sign of arrogance and an act cowardness, no offense to Canelo fans but that is how some of us saw that one. Good thing that Saudi's big boss is not offerring the winner of Bivol vs Beterbiev to Canelo.
Yes, lately I will also say that Canelo is really being arrogant, or getting into someone's nerve with that ridiculous money that he wanted. He is even bending some rules as well like not fighting his mandatory and boxing organizations just say yes to his demand.
It will be his big loss if the Saudi big boss will ignore Canelo because of his attitude. What the Saudi want is the Benavidez fight the winner of Bivol vs Beterbiev obviously in Saudi.
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I have posted this in the other forum, but it's also better to post it here as we have boxing fans that has teleported,
~snip~
https://twitter.com/MichaelBensonn/status/1771550634942111745 (https://twitter.com/MichaelBensonn/status/1771550634942111745)
What do you think guys? It seems that Turki Alalshikh has a beautiful plan. Forget Canelo for now, it will be David Benavidez to fight the winner of Bivol and Beterbiev and it will be held on Saudi or course.
We have speculated though that him moving at 175 lbs, sooner or later will have to face the winner of that great fight.
Beautiful plan of Turki Alalshikh indeed and Benavidez is like winning the lottery without having to go through Canelo. The good thing about this Alalshikh is that he is very willing to shell out large amounts of money just to bring the best fights that fans wanted to see.
But this fight is going to be risky for Benavidez as either Bivol or Beterbiev is a monster at 175 so he must have a tune-up bout to acquaint himself to this division before facing the champion.
That's the advantage of the Saudi, they have a lot of money, and he is also really a big fan of boxing and knows that fight make sense and what fight is just for pure hype. And I like what David Benavidez did here, he engage Saudi's big boss through social media and so he has to respond to it. And the good thing is that he is all on-board with Benavidez and not Canelo. I think he see Canelo as somewhat arrogant boxer (this is just my speculation), just by interpreting his response. Nevertheless it's a great fight, no question about it. Benavidez vs Bivol, or Benavidez vs Beterbiev. A potential to be fight of the year.
Canelo, in an interview said that it would take 150-200 million usd for him to have a fight with Benavidez, that alone for me is a sign of arrogance and an act cowardness, no offense to Canelo fans but that is how some of us saw that one. Good thing that Saudi's big boss is not offerring the winner of Bivol vs Beterbiev to Canelo.
Yes, lately I will also say that Canelo is really being arrogant, or getting into someone's nerve with that ridiculous money that he wanted. He is even bending some rules as well like not fighting his mandatory and boxing organizations just say yes to his demand.
It will be his big loss if the Saudi big boss will ignore Canelo because of his attitude. What the Saudi want is the Benavidez fight the winner of Bivol vs Beterbiev obviously in Saudi.
There is no one to blame but the organizations themselves. They let Canelo do everything he can without any repercussions, allowed him to choose his opponents and then not forcing mandatories for him.
Now Canelo has to pay the price literally as he is being sidestep by the Saudis and not even invited to any event on the Middle East. While Benavidez and Beterbiev and Bivol are getting special treatment for His Excellency Alalshikh, being the biggest broker in boxing right now.
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Good news for Philippine boxing, after a long drought, finally we have a championship belt courtesy of Melvin Jerusalem after he defeated Yudai Shigeoka for the WBO version of the minimum weight title. Hope this is beginning of the bright future of Philippine boxing and more championship belts to come.
Melvin Jerusalem (22-3, 12 KOs) squeezed out a hard fought split decision win on away soil to relieve Yudai Shigeoka (8-1, 5 KOs) WBC minimumweight world title.
Jerusalem becomes a two-time world champion. Japan has become a happy hunting ground for the Filipino, having knocked out Masataka Taniguchi last May in Osaka for the WBO 105 pound belt.
One judge scored in favour of Shigeoka with just a point in it at 114-113. The other two judges had it identical at 114-112 for Jerusalem to give the away fighter the split decision victory.
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Good news for Philippine boxing, after a long drought, finally we have a championship belt courtesy of Melvin Jerusalem after he defeated Yudai Shigeoka for the WBO version of the minimum weight title. Hope this is beginning of the bright future of Philippine boxing and more championship belts to come.
Melvin Jerusalem (22-3, 12 KOs) squeezed out a hard fought split decision win on away soil to relieve Yudai Shigeoka (8-1, 5 KOs) WBC minimumweight world title.
Jerusalem becomes a two-time world champion. Japan has become a happy hunting ground for the Filipino, having knocked out Masataka Taniguchi last May in Osaka for the WBO 105 pound belt.
One judge scored in favour of Shigeoka with just a point in it at 114-113. The other two judges had it identical at 114-112 for Jerusalem to give the away fighter the split decision victory.
Is Melvin the only Filipino champion right now? I think so. but I have been hearing his name for quite some time now and I don't know if he has lost the belt or regain it back from the Japanese boxer. So base on the score, it was really a very close fight, and one Japanese judge obviously favors Shigeoka. But it's good that for the PH, they still have a champion as we all know that some of their legends have retired and we haven't heard from Casimero as he is supposedly the big PH boxer.
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Good news for Philippine boxing, after a long drought, finally we have a championship belt courtesy of Melvin Jerusalem after he defeated Yudai Shigeoka for the WBO version of the minimum weight title. Hope this is beginning of the bright future of Philippine boxing and more championship belts to come.
Melvin Jerusalem (22-3, 12 KOs) squeezed out a hard fought split decision win on away soil to relieve Yudai Shigeoka (8-1, 5 KOs) WBC minimumweight world title.
Jerusalem becomes a two-time world champion. Japan has become a happy hunting ground for the Filipino, having knocked out Masataka Taniguchi last May in Osaka for the WBO 105 pound belt.
One judge scored in favour of Shigeoka with just a point in it at 114-113. The other two judges had it identical at 114-112 for Jerusalem to give the away fighter the split decision victory.
Is Melvin the only Filipino champion right now? I think so. but I have been hearing his name for quite some time now and I don't know if he has lost the belt or regain it back from the Japanese boxer. So base on the score, it was really a very close fight, and one Japanese judge obviously favors Shigeoka. But it's good that for the PH, they still have a champion as we all know that some of their legends have retired and we haven't heard from Casimero as he is supposedly the big PH boxer.
I think so, he is the only reigning Filipino champion.
Casimero might be working for another fight as he is quiet lately.
As for the Fundora vs Tsyzu fight, it was reported that Fundora was ordered by the WBO to defend his belt against Crawford and start the negotiation. So I guess we won't see the rematch against Tim. Or Tim will have to wait and he will have the first crack as who will win on that fight.
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Good news for Philippine boxing, after a long drought, finally we have a championship belt courtesy of Melvin Jerusalem after he defeated Yudai Shigeoka for the WBO version of the minimum weight title. Hope this is beginning of the bright future of Philippine boxing and more championship belts to come.
Melvin Jerusalem (22-3, 12 KOs) squeezed out a hard fought split decision win on away soil to relieve Yudai Shigeoka (8-1, 5 KOs) WBC minimumweight world title.
Jerusalem becomes a two-time world champion. Japan has become a happy hunting ground for the Filipino, having knocked out Masataka Taniguchi last May in Osaka for the WBO 105 pound belt.
One judge scored in favour of Shigeoka with just a point in it at 114-113. The other two judges had it identical at 114-112 for Jerusalem to give the away fighter the split decision victory.
Is Melvin the only Filipino champion right now? I think so. but I have been hearing his name for quite some time now and I don't know if he has lost the belt or regain it back from the Japanese boxer. So base on the score, it was really a very close fight, and one Japanese judge obviously favors Shigeoka. But it's good that for the PH, they still have a champion as we all know that some of their legends have retired and we haven't heard from Casimero as he is supposedly the big PH boxer.
Right now, Melvin Jerusalem is the lone Filipino boxer with a belt. He once hold the the WBO version of the minimum weight category but lost to Oscar Collazo by knockout last year. He is now holding the WBC belt and planning to unified the WBO and WBC by fighting the dangerous Collazo once again but i doubt he could defeat Collazo because the latter is so technical and heavy handed. If i were his manager i would rather let him fight in a mandatory first before fighting for a unified title fight.
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Good news for Philippine boxing, after a long drought, finally we have a championship belt courtesy of Melvin Jerusalem after he defeated Yudai Shigeoka for the WBO version of the minimum weight title. Hope this is beginning of the bright future of Philippine boxing and more championship belts to come.
Melvin Jerusalem (22-3, 12 KOs) squeezed out a hard fought split decision win on away soil to relieve Yudai Shigeoka (8-1, 5 KOs) WBC minimumweight world title.
Jerusalem becomes a two-time world champion. Japan has become a happy hunting ground for the Filipino, having knocked out Masataka Taniguchi last May in Osaka for the WBO 105 pound belt.
One judge scored in favour of Shigeoka with just a point in it at 114-113. The other two judges had it identical at 114-112 for Jerusalem to give the away fighter the split decision victory.
Is Melvin the only Filipino champion right now? I think so. but I have been hearing his name for quite some time now and I don't know if he has lost the belt or regain it back from the Japanese boxer. So base on the score, it was really a very close fight, and one Japanese judge obviously favors Shigeoka. But it's good that for the PH, they still have a champion as we all know that some of their legends have retired and we haven't heard from Casimero as he is supposedly the big PH boxer.
Right now, Melvin Jerusalem is the lone Filipino boxer with a belt. He once hold the the WBO version of the minimum weight category but lost to Oscar Collazo by knockout last year. He is now holding the WBC belt and planning to unified the WBO and WBC by fighting the dangerous Collazo once again but i doubt he could defeat Collazo because the latter is so technical and heavy handed. If i were his manager i would rather let him fight in a mandatory first before fighting for a unified title fight.
Ok thanks for that information, yeah, I heard his name before but I can't recall it whether he has belts before or a new champion for the PH. I haven't yet research on that Collazo guy, maybe Melvin will have a hard time against him or is that Collazo is too good for him. Like Ancajas wherein he can't win against Puma Martinez even if they fight for a rematch. And it just shows that there are certain fighters who likes like a kryptonite for this boxers as they can't win against them.
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I heard the news that Cris Cyborg is preparing for another boxing fight, after she didnt receive the date for her next MMA fight that she asked for.
Exact date for her third boxing fight is not announced yet but want to see her back in action against some strong opponent.
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And this is what Canelo says for his fans and detractors alike,
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/04/05/VcQaN.png)
https://twitter.com/MichaelBensonn/status/1775939676144115840
So this is just my personal opinion, sooner or later he will go after Benavidez, but it should be at 168 lbs and Benavidez is moving up to 175 lbs and stop chasing Canelo for now.
What are your thoughts? Canelo vs Benavidez in the future or no?
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And this is what Canelo says for his fans and detractors alike,
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/04/05/VcQaN.png)
https://twitter.com/MichaelBensonn/status/1775939676144115840
So this is just my personal opinion, sooner or later he will go after Benavidez, but it should be at 168 lbs and Benavidez is moving up to 175 lbs and stop chasing Canelo for now.
What are your thoughts? Canelo vs Benavidez in the future or no?
Why wait though when he can have Benavidez this year? He severe his ties with PBC so that he can stay away fro Benavidez, so that is a clear duck already. And then fighting Mexican in Jaime Munguia? Which he said that he won't be fighting another Mexican?
And the next schedule fight for him is Berlanga? So that clearly shows that Canelo doesn't want no part of David Benavidez at least for this year. But David is making his own, moving up to 175 lbs and not wanting to wait for Canelo as he might not have given Benavidez that chance next year.
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Why wait though when he can have Benavidez this year? He severe his ties with PBC so that he can stay away fro Benavidez, so that is a clear duck already. And then fighting Mexican in Jaime Munguia? Which he said that he won't be fighting another Mexican?
And the next schedule fight for him is Berlanga? So that clearly shows that Canelo doesn't want no part of David Benavidez at least for this year. But David is making his own, moving up to 175 lbs and not wanting to wait for Canelo as he might not have given Benavidez that chance next year.
Canelo is enjoying the ride of being champion, imagine fighting low-level fighters and at the same time making millions what could he ask for more, he is getting a lot of criticism because of
the boxing community doesn't like this, there is no challenge, this is the only Mexican champion that's ducking boxers who many people believe will beat him.
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Why wait though when he can have Benavidez this year? He severe his ties with PBC so that he can stay away fro Benavidez, so that is a clear duck already. And then fighting Mexican in Jaime Munguia? Which he said that he won't be fighting another Mexican?
And the next schedule fight for him is Berlanga? So that clearly shows that Canelo doesn't want no part of David Benavidez at least for this year. But David is making his own, moving up to 175 lbs and not wanting to wait for Canelo as he might not have given Benavidez that chance next year.
Canelo is enjoying the ride of being champion, imagine fighting low-level fighters and at the same time making millions what could he ask for more, he is getting a lot of criticism because of
the boxing community doesn't like this, there is no challenge, this is the only Mexican champion that's ducking boxers who many people believe will beat him.
Canelo is now starting to fight Mexican, so i think Benavidez is the next. he's gonna have to answer the people who sends the message that he is ducking David otherwise the boxing community will just be laughing behind him.
he doesn't have the perfect zero loss anyway, i think he should be going for the legit boxers who can really challenge the p4p. there is nowhere else to go for Canelo but 175 also, they may be able to meet there.
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Why wait though when he can have Benavidez this year? He severe his ties with PBC so that he can stay away fro Benavidez, so that is a clear duck already. And then fighting Mexican in Jaime Munguia? Which he said that he won't be fighting another Mexican?
And the next schedule fight for him is Berlanga? So that clearly shows that Canelo doesn't want no part of David Benavidez at least for this year. But David is making his own, moving up to 175 lbs and not wanting to wait for Canelo as he might not have given Benavidez that chance next year.
Canelo is enjoying the ride of being champion, imagine fighting low-level fighters and at the same time making millions what could he ask for more, he is getting a lot of criticism because of
the boxing community doesn't like this, there is no challenge, this is the only Mexican champion that's ducking boxers who many people believe will beat him.
Canelo is now starting to fight Mexican, so i think Benavidez is the next. he's gonna have to answer the people who sends the message that he is ducking David otherwise the boxing community will just be laughing behind him.
he doesn't have the perfect zero loss anyway, i think he should be going for the legit boxers who can really challenge the p4p. there is nowhere else to go for Canelo but 175 also, they may be able to meet there.
Canelo said though that he is not going to please anyone, so maybe he will fight Benavidez next or not. And it is reported that after this fight with Munguia and assuming he will win, next in line for him is Berlanga of Puerto Rico, another hype fighter and young in the mold of Jaime Munguia.
Benavidez has a fight now at Light HW and then if he wins he will challenge for the belt as whoever wins between the 2 Russians, Bivol and Beterbiev. The good thing for us fans is that it's going to be a busy year for this boxers and hopefully everyone will go in the mix and Canelo moving up to 175 lbs will create this noise fight again.
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Should not Canelo retire, at least for some time? I have been hearing his name for a long time already. I assume he has earned from boxing so much money already, that it takes him time to think where to spend them. Isnt he tired of winning everyone in his division? No matter who he faces, he wins in a dominant manner (if we talk only about his division). Almost 20 years in boxing, 60+ professional fights. How long is he planning to box more? Do people still interested in watching him winning? Because every time I see his name, people only discuss how he will win and who he will face next, and how he will win again.
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How time flies,
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/04/08/VWc8C.png)
https://www.ringtv.com/665816-naoya-inoue-luis-nery-set-may-6-in-tokyo-three-title-fights-confirmed-for-undercard/
In just a month we will finally see Inoue again. Although Nery is a great fighter, I don't think that he can stop this version of Inoue who is about to reach his prime years. And I think everyone will agree that Nery has a slim chance.
Nery is a 7:1 underdog in this fight.
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Should not Canelo retire, at least for some time? I have been hearing his name for a long time already. I assume he has earned from boxing so much money already, that it takes him time to think where to spend them. Isnt he tired of winning everyone in his division? No matter who he faces, he wins in a dominant manner (if we talk only about his division). Almost 20 years in boxing, 60+ professional fights. How long is he planning to box more? Do people still interested in watching him winning? Because every time I see his name, people only discuss how he will win and who he will face next, and how he will win again.
He is what we call the "cash-cow" in boxing, meaning every fight, he is the A-side and can command huge amount of money because fans are willing to watch him live and thru PPV. Yes, he has been in the boxing for many years and enjoying his life as he could be worth millions already.
Really hard to say when he is going to quit because he can still fight. Maybe if he losses to Munguia, then he can contemplate of retiring. But as of now, perhaps a good 3-4 fights left in him.
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This is not one of the money fights that's commonly discussed in boxing thread and it's a bit controversial to some but have you heard/read about the trans who fought professionally and was knocked out inside 21 seconds? I don't mean to offend their group but I'm glad that the fighter experienced it early.
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This is not one of the money fights that's commonly discussed in boxing thread and it's a bit controversial to some but have you heard/read about the trans who fought professionally and was knocked out inside 21 seconds? I don't mean to offend their group but I'm glad that the fighter experienced it early.
And yet he said that he will continue to fight despite the lost. This is the first time that he had a L and so he still thinks that he can make it big in boxing as he was a great boxer in his previous life.
"I’m not one to hide my face no matter the outcome….I lost last night," Manuel wrote.
"I trained my a** off, had great sparring, cut no corners. But sometimes s*** doesn’t go your way.
"It’s a risk we all take when we step in the ring. It’s what is exciting about boxing - and also the most heartbreaking.
"The most important part is I am healthy. I am deeply disappointed and to be honest, my ego is bruised.
https://talksport.com/sport/1822351/transgender-boxer-patricio-manuel-knockout-loss/
We can't prevent him from pursuing his dreams, if it the right decision for him, then let it be. World is really changing nowadays and everyone has his/her own rights and go where they think is right for them.
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How time flies,
~snip~
https://www.ringtv.com/665816-naoya-inoue-luis-nery-set-may-6-in-tokyo-three-title-fights-confirmed-for-undercard/
In just a month we will finally see Inoue again. Although Nery is a great fighter, I don't think that he can stop this version of Inoue who is about to reach his prime years. And I think everyone will agree that Nery has a slim chance.
Nery is a 7:1 underdog in this fight.
Agree, Luis Nery has a slim chance of winning this fight. A consolation maybe if he can withstand the Japanese Monster's bombardment for the full 12 rounds. At the moment, Inoue for me is unbeatable in this division and like you said, he is at his peak and he is fighting in his comforn zone so the odds for Nery to capture the belts is very slim. Less than a month to go and we could see the monster fighting again, how time flies ;D.
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How time flies,
~snip~
https://www.ringtv.com/665816-naoya-inoue-luis-nery-set-may-6-in-tokyo-three-title-fights-confirmed-for-undercard/
In just a month we will finally see Inoue again. Although Nery is a great fighter, I don't think that he can stop this version of Inoue who is about to reach his prime years. And I think everyone will agree that Nery has a slim chance.
Nery is a 7:1 underdog in this fight.
Agree, Luis Nery has a slim chance of winning this fight. A consolation maybe if he can withstand the Japanese Monster's bombardment for the full 12 rounds. At the moment, Inoue for me is unbeatable in this division and like you said, he is at his peak and he is fighting in his comforn zone so the odds for Nery to capture the belts is very slim. Less than a month to go and we could see the monster fighting again, how time flies ;D.
Yes mate, and if by chance Nery lasted 12 rounds and we but a bet on it, odds are pretty high at 15.00, hehehehe. I know for sure that you will be looking at this odds ;D.
And really hard to think what kind of fighter should beat his version of Inoue. He could have the combination of speed and power and boxing IQ and should have a granite chin to stay with the monster. But I don't see the Nery has all of this tools in his arsenal.
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Yes mate, and if by chance Nery lasted 12 rounds and we but a bet on it, odds are pretty high at 15.00, hehehehe. I know for sure that you will be looking at this odds ;D.
And really hard to think what kind of fighter should beat his version of Inoue. He could have the combination of speed and power and boxing IQ and should have a granite chin to stay with the monster. But I don't see the Nery has all of this tools in his arsenal.
That's the good thing about Inoue, he doesn't only have the speed and power but he also possess a tough chin which is comparable to Manny Pacquiao. Even Casimero will be having a very hard time figuring on how to win against the Japanese Monster as the former is the only one left in the Philippines that have a chance to fight him.
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Yes mate, and if by chance Nery lasted 12 rounds and we but a bet on it, odds are pretty high at 15.00, hehehehe. I know for sure that you will be looking at this odds ;D.
And really hard to think what kind of fighter should beat his version of Inoue. He could have the combination of speed and power and boxing IQ and should have a granite chin to stay with the monster. But I don't see the Nery has all of this tools in his arsenal.
That's the good thing about Inoue, he doesn't only have the speed and power but he also possess a tough chin which is comparable to Manny Pacquiao. Even Casimero will be having a very hard time figuring on how to win against the Japanese Monster as the former is the only one left in the Philippines that have a chance to fight him.
Even if they meet in the ring, Casimero will be the heavy underdog and Casimero will have a hard time beating Inoue, people love to see them fight in the ring because Casimero keeps bragging that he has the means to beat Inue, but we all know he is just trolling and Casimero has been trolling him for years.
Inoue keeps ignoring him if Casimero is really serious he should renegotiate to be under MP Promotions who can make the fight possible, but Casimero is full of pride to renegotiate.
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Yes mate, and if by chance Nery lasted 12 rounds and we but a bet on it, odds are pretty high at 15.00, hehehehe. I know for sure that you will be looking at this odds ;D.
And really hard to think what kind of fighter should beat his version of Inoue. He could have the combination of speed and power and boxing IQ and should have a granite chin to stay with the monster. But I don't see the Nery has all of this tools in his arsenal.
That's the good thing about Inoue, he doesn't only have the speed and power but he also possess a tough chin which is comparable to Manny Pacquiao. Even Casimero will be having a very hard time figuring on how to win against the Japanese Monster as the former is the only one left in the Philippines that have a chance to fight him.
Even if they meet in the ring, Casimero will be the heavy underdog and Casimero will have a hard time beating Inoue, people love to see them fight in the ring because Casimero keeps bragging that he has the means to beat Inue, but we all know he is just trolling and Casimero has been trolling him for years.
Inoue keeps ignoring him if Casimero is really serious he should renegotiate to be under MP Promotions who can make the fight possible, but Casimero is full of pride to renegotiate.
I would say that Casimero's chances are very slim now, he don't have any power in the negotiating table and I think he is envy that Nery has the chance to crack at Inoue.
Him and Nery has been talking trash way before, when Casimero is still at his prime and his name on top of 118 lbs. But now it's totally different, they are in the same weight by Casimero's fight at 122 lbs is not that impressive and so Inoue passes him for Nery.
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I would say that Casimero's chances are very slim now, he don't have any power in the negotiating table and I think he is envy that Nery has the chance to crack at Inoue.
Him and Nery has been talking trash way before, when Casimero is still at his prime and his name on top of 118 lbs. But now it's totally different, they are in the same weight by Casimero's fight at 122 lbs is not that impressive and so Inoue passes him for Nery.
I do agree, Casimero's chance of dethroning Naoya Inoue is slim no because of lack in bargaining power plus the fact that his fights in the super bantamweight division were not so impressive. Casimero is 35 years old now, if his team wants to fight Inoue then they must make their move now as he will not be in his peak anymore because of old age.
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I would say that Casimero's chances are very slim now, he don't have any power in the negotiating table and I think he is envy that Nery has the chance to crack at Inoue.
Him and Nery has been talking trash way before, when Casimero is still at his prime and his name on top of 118 lbs. But now it's totally different, they are in the same weight by Casimero's fight at 122 lbs is not that impressive and so Inoue passes him for Nery.
I do agree, Casimero's chance of dethroning Naoya Inoue is slim no because of lack in bargaining power plus the fact that his fights in the super bantamweight division were not so impressive. Casimero is 35 years old now, if his team wants to fight Inoue then they must make their move now as he will not be in his peak anymore because of old age.
Right, he is 35 years old and we can see that his power is somewhat not carried on 122 lbs. The only thing that might give him a chance is that he is under a Japanese manager and so it will be easy to talk to Inoue's camp.
Nevertheless, if he has nothing to offer to Inoue, then he will not get a future chance.
And Casimero is not about to jump to 126 lbs as well, he will be too small for that weight class.
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So, everything is now set for the undisputed fight for the unification of the belts in the Light Heavyweight division as the fighters meet for the first press conference.
One thing i observed, Arthur Beterbiev is not much of a talker hehe, good thing that Bivol saves him on that area ;D.
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BTW as per press conference, the fight will be held on June 1 in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.
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So, everything is now set for the undisputed fight for the unification of the belts in the Light Heavyweight division as the fighters meet for the first press conference.
One thing i observed, Arthur Beterbiev is not much of a talker hehe, good thing that Bivol saves him on that area ;D.
BTW as per press conference, the fight will be held on June 1 in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.
It's probably the language barrier, that's why Beterview doesn't open his mouth that often. But nevertheless this is a big fight, in this division. I can't remember when was the last time we have a unified champion in the modern era in this division, so this could be the first.
Yeah, we have a date already and they also announce the undercard which included 2 HW fights.
We will see how Zhang will fare against the comebacking Wilder.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HzBqdKmXuY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HzBqdKmXuY)
And so Devin got his revenge against Ryan when he pushed him in their face off at Empire State. Not sure though if this is enough to push the fight to the masses and make some noises as there are reports that tickets are not selling out as it supposed to be.
Let's see if this is enough to make casual fans to buy and talk about this fight in social media.
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Updating this thread,
Ryan Garcia defeated Devin Haney,
Ryan Garcia revived his career by recording one of the most remarkable of all victories to dethrone Devin Haney as the WBC super-lightweight champion.
He will not leave the Barclays Center in Brooklyn, New York with the title, because his being overweight made him ineligible to win it, but he enhanced his reputation by earning the most unlikely of majority decisions, via scores of 112-112, 114-110 and 115-109.
https://www.boxingscene.com/bigger-make-better-ryan-garcia-overpowers-devin-haney-shocker--182995
I guess nobody saw it coming? He was a big underdog in this fight, going from as high as 8:1 underdog. But he proved that his left hook is still his main weapon as once it touches Haney, Devin always touches the floor.
Congrats to those who went and bet on the underdog Ryan "King Ry" Garcia.
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Updating this thread,
Ryan Garcia defeated Devin Haney,
Ryan Garcia revived his career by recording one of the most remarkable of all victories to dethrone Devin Haney as the WBC super-lightweight champion.
He will not leave the Barclays Center in Brooklyn, New York with the title, because his being overweight made him ineligible to win it, but he enhanced his reputation by earning the most unlikely of majority decisions, via scores of 112-112, 114-110 and 115-109.
https://www.boxingscene.com/bigger-make-better-ryan-garcia-overpowers-devin-haney-shocker--182995
I guess nobody saw it coming? He was a big underdog in this fight, going from as high as 8:1 underdog. But he proved that his left hook is still his main weapon as once it touches Haney, Devin always touches the floor.
Congrats to those who went and bet on the underdog Ryan "King Ry" Garcia.
didn't bet on fight fight. but i was planing to root for Haney, i would have lost too.
that left hook kept landing repeatedly.
after what ryan been doing on tweeter, a lot of people already thought his kid is demented and this fight wouldn't even be possible anymore because of it. but against all odds ryan beat the shit.
i kept following the interviews and in one video Ryan told Bill Haney to stop the fight because the referee was terrible but they didn't.
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What do you guys think about the Canelo Vs Munguia fight, which is not far away, on 4th May.
Bookies seem to be thinking it's going to be smooth sailing for Canelo. I'm not that big of a boxing fan and haven't been following Munguia's career that closely, but his record and KO rate (of almost 80%) look quite impressive.
Odds are very similar to Canelo Vs Bivol, when the Mexican was a big favorite but got outclassed by the Russian.
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/04/22/jDdkP.png)
Are these fair or misplaced? Worth putting a few $ on Munguia?
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@pawel7777, this Munguia fight is different from that of Bivol because Canelo will be fighting in his own division and many individuals or analysts consider this fight as cherry picking for Canelo as he should fight David Benavidez who is eager on facing him and have the tools to dethrone Canelo.
I choose Canelo to win this fight but will be betting for Munguia because betting for the former is not practical as the odds is very low for him while it would be x5 for Munguia to win ML.
Who knows, Oscar might be 2-0 this coming Cinco-de-Mayo hehe. Ryan Garcia upsets Haney, maybe Munguia will also upsets Canelo.
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@pawel7777, this Munguia fight is different from that of Bivol because Canelo will be fighting in his own division and many individuals or analysts consider this fight as cherry picking for Canelo as he should fight David Benavidez who is eager on facing him and have the tools to dethrone Canelo.
I choose Canelo to win this fight but will be betting for Munguia because betting for the former is not practical as the odds is very low for him while it would be x5 for Munguia to win ML.
Who knows, Oscar might be 2-0 this coming Cinco-de-Mayo hehe. Ryan Garcia upsets Haney, maybe Munguia will also upsets Canelo.
I will be ironic if Oscar will score 2-0, back to back upsets and it could be one of the news this 2024. You can see the expression of Oscar in the post fight interview, he is very elated that Ryan wins and then he talks about Garcia as the new face of boxing because of this big win.
So let's see, maybe Munguia is inspired by Garcia's big win against Haney and will push himself to train harder to upset the current cash cow in Canelo. Why not throw some money in Munguia. Betting some money to Munguia's funds wouldn't cause any harm, hehehe.
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@pawel7777, this Munguia fight is different from that of Bivol because Canelo will be fighting in his own division and many individuals or analysts consider this fight as cherry picking for Canelo as he should fight David Benavidez who is eager on facing him and have the tools to dethrone Canelo.
I choose Canelo to win this fight but will be betting for Munguia because betting for the former is not practical as the odds is very low for him while it would be x5 for Munguia to win ML.
Thanks.
I also think Canelo is more likely to win (at least from my limited knowledge on those two), but the question is, aren't the odds for Munguia attractive enough to throw few $ on it.
But again, I'm not that deep into boxing and might be overestimating Jaime a little bit.
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Anyone heard about the lawsuit of Derrick James against his former pupil in Errol Spence?
Derrick James and Errol Spence have not only parted ways but have taken legal action against one another.
The Ring has confirmed that James filed a lawsuit against his now former client, seeking damages in excess of $5,000,000. A 19-page Breach of Contract, Fraud and Misrepresentation complaint was filed on April 17 with the 191st Judicial District Court of Dallas County, Texas.
https://www.ringtv.com/669039-derrick-james-errol-spence-embroiled-in-two-way-lawsuit-amidst-bitter-split/
It's just sad to hear that they are now in a bitter lawsuit, they used to be one of the best trainer-boxer, similar to the mold of Roach-Pacquaio. But not sure what happened to the two. Yes, Spence last to Crawford but I don't think that Errol should blame his James for that in my opinion.
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Anyone heard about the lawsuit of Derrick James against his former pupil in Errol Spence?
Derrick James and Errol Spence have not only parted ways but have taken legal action against one another.
The Ring has confirmed that James filed a lawsuit against his now former client, seeking damages in excess of $5,000,000. A 19-page Breach of Contract, Fraud and Misrepresentation complaint was filed on April 17 with the 191st Judicial District Court of Dallas County, Texas.
https://www.ringtv.com/669039-derrick-james-errol-spence-embroiled-in-two-way-lawsuit-amidst-bitter-split/
It's just sad to hear that they are now in a bitter lawsuit, they used to be one of the best trainer-boxer, similar to the mold of Roach-Pacquaio. But not sure what happened to the two. Yes, Spence last to Crawford but I don't think that Errol should blame his James for that in my opinion.
Have read this feud in the boxing news but i don't what's the root of all of these issues. On his lost to Crawford, i don't think that James would took the blame as Crawford is way above Spence in terms of boxing talent and even trainers couldn't change the outcome of that fight. I just hope that the two will settle their dispute off the court.
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Breaking news:
Ryan Garcia has found to be taking a banned substance as per report by ESPN. I don't what the complication this may bring to his win against Haney but definitely this is a bad news for the boxing community.
Ryan Garcia failed his doping test the day before and the day of his upset win over Devin Haney, per a Voluntary Anti-Doping Association letter obtained by ESPN.
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Breaking news:
Ryan Garcia has found to be taking a banned substance as per report by ESPN. I don't what the complication this may bring to his win against Haney but definitely this is a bad news for the boxing community.
Ryan Garcia failed his doping test the day before and the day of his upset win over Devin Haney, per a Voluntary Anti-Doping Association letter obtained by ESPN.
Yeah, not sure if this is true though, but I want to hear it from VADA itself on what their take on the sample from Ryan. Or at least make it official and see what substance it is or if it really help Ryan win because I doubt it.
I also read that even Regis accuse Haney of using illegal drugs as well but he wasn't caught because he cycles.
But I don't think that Ryan's performance here will diminishes because of this accusations. He did knock him out 3x and won and dominated the fight.
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what are they trying to achieve? weren't they tested before the fight and there were no issues like this PEDs bnut now that he won, he is being accused of it.
the mafia in boxing has presented itself. we really are living in crazy times when things like this is happening where morals are already flying out the windows. they were trolled big time by Ryan and they couldn't just shake hands and just move on to another fight. or is it just Haney feels like its his last and can't face the crowd because he causes the mafia lost a large sum.
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what are they trying to achieve? weren't they tested before the fight and there were no issues like this PEDs bnut now that he won, he is being accused of it.
the mafia in boxing has presented itself. we really are living in crazy times when things like this is happening where morals are already flying out the windows. they were trolled big time by Ryan and they couldn't just shake hands and just move on to another fight. or is it just Haney feels like its his last and can't face the crowd because he causes the mafia lost a large sum.
Lol, not sure about the Mafia scenario though, but it seems that everyone is transpiring against Ryan Garcia and they want to taint his win against Haney. Maybe they can't take the Ryan beat a prime boxer and dominate him and now they are discrediting his big wins with this accusations.
But let's see he has deny it already and have 10 days to submit to another test whether urine or blood to see if there are drugs in his system that will really colloborate his first failed drug test.
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what are they trying to achieve? weren't they tested before the fight and there were no issues like this PEDs bnut now that he won, he is being accused of it.
the mafia in boxing has presented itself. we really are living in crazy times when things like this is happening where morals are already flying out the windows. they were trolled big time by Ryan and they couldn't just shake hands and just move on to another fight. or is it just Haney feels like its his last and can't face the crowd because he causes the mafia lost a large sum.
Got your point there mate but if the mafia was involved on this fight then they should bet for Ryan Garcia to win because that's where the big money because he was the huge underdog while betting for Haney was not attractive because of low odds.
Yeah, they should have been tested before the fight to avoid complications but Team Haney was so confident that they would beat the crazy Ryan Garcia but it was the opposite that happened.
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Some sad news regarding the Bivol Vs Beterbiev fight. It got postponed due to Beterbiev's injury. He suffered a ruptured meniscus (knee injury), thet will put him off till at least September.
https://www.skysports.com/boxing/news/12183/13128662/artur-beterbiev-vs-dmitry-bivol-undisputed-world-title-fight-postponed-after-beterbiev-suffers-injury
The remainder of the card, including Wilder Vs Zhang, is still expected to go ahead.
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what are they trying to achieve? weren't they tested before the fight and there were no issues like this PEDs bnut now that he won, he is being accused of it.
the mafia in boxing has presented itself. we really are living in crazy times when things like this is happening where morals are already flying out the windows. they were trolled big time by Ryan and they couldn't just shake hands and just move on to another fight. or is it just Haney feels like its his last and can't face the crowd because he causes the mafia lost a large sum.
Got your point there mate but if the mafia was involved on this fight then they should bet for Ryan Garcia to win because that's where the big money because he was the huge underdog while betting for Haney was not attractive because of low odds.
Yeah, they should have been tested before the fight to avoid complications but Team Haney was so confident that they would beat the crazy Ryan Garcia but it was the opposite that happened.
there is politics involve and Ryan was exposing some shits happening around like Diddy sex extortion. i didn't follow more of it but Ryan made lots of enemies in hollywood. and afaik he also have a beef with Oscar, he was threatened the fight was supposedly cancelled because of his trolling and his mental breakdowns on twitter. its why there were people claiming he shouldn't be allowed to fight but i'm guessing Haney wants to embarrass the kid. Unfortunately, it backfires its why this time Ryan's victory might just be discredit if they are successful with this.
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there is politics involve and Ryan was exposing some shits happening around like Diddy sex extortion. i didn't follow more of it but Ryan made lots of enemies in hollywood. and afaik he also have a beef with Oscar, he was threatened the fight was supposedly cancelled because of his trolling and his mental breakdowns on twitter. its why there were people claiming he shouldn't be allowed to fight but i'm guessing Haney wants to embarrass the kid. Unfortunately, it backfires its why this time Ryan's victory might just be discredit if they are successful with this.
Yes, I agree because Ryan did not follow the script that he should lose and Haney should dominate and humiliate him all so-called boxing experts including Bradley even stated that he would resign from their commentary job if Ryan won the match.
Every bet is on Haney to win and when Haney lose and is the one humiliated Ryan becomes the hated one when they have the opportunity to ruin him by this news they all joined the bandwagon
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Naoya Inoue vs Luis Nery:
We have a fight as both fighters made the scales in today's weigh-in. Inoue weighs 121.75 pounds while Nery weighs 121 lbs, the former is a little bit heavier but within the limit.
This fight is going to happen tomorrow in the next few hours. See below for the full video of the weigh-in.
By the way, this fight can be watch for free via Top Rank's youtube channel and FB account, for Philippines only.
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Below is the link for the live stream of this fight. It was being said that they would stream for free via youtube in the Philippines. So far it is working on my end.
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when Inoue fell, i think everyone who put their money on him must have been standing up and about to say goodbye to their money.
but then he won by KO again. it isn't surprising but Inoue knocked down was more surprising, it kept watching over and over and it sure can be a big hole in his defense. it may just be his fall next if he fights someone on their heavier division.
this is the first time i saw Inoue showboating by the way. i guess that knock down crawled under his skin.
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when Inoue fell, i think everyone who put their money on him must have been standing up and about to say goodbye to their money.
but then he won by KO again. it isn't surprising but Inoue knocked down was more surprising, it kept watching over and over and it sure can be a big hole in his defense. it may just be his fall next if he fights someone on their heavier division.
this is the first time i saw Inoue showboating by the way. i guess that knock down crawled under his skin.
It was a flash knockdown as he didn't saw that hook coming but i think he was not that hurt as he didn't even clinched to Nery and i admired Inoue's presence of mind and composure and the adjustment he made was awesome that Nery couldn't hit him anymore with his counter left hook.
I think he was showboating so that if Nery would take the bait he will be open for the counter straight of Inoue and yeah he seldom do that.
There are talks that Inoue's next fight will be in September against Sam Goodman so this means that Casimero is already out of the picture of getting/winning the Inoue sweepstakes.
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when Inoue fell, i think everyone who put their money on him must have been standing up and about to say goodbye to their money.
but then he won by KO again. it isn't surprising but Inoue knocked down was more surprising, it kept watching over and over and it sure can be a big hole in his defense. it may just be his fall next if he fights someone on their heavier division.
this is the first time i saw Inoue showboating by the way. i guess that knock down crawled under his skin.
It was a flash knockdown as he didn't saw that hook coming but i think he was not that hurt as he didn't even clinched to Nery and i admired Inoue's presence of mind and composure and the adjustment he made was awesome that Nery couldn't hit him anymore with his counter left hook.
I think he was showboating so that if Nery would take the bait he will be open for the counter straight of Inoue and yeah he seldom do that.
There are talks that Inoue's next fight will be in September against Sam Goodman so this means that Casimero is already out of the picture of getting/winning the Inoue sweepstakes.
giving a chance to casimero might be good thing for inoue but none seem to back this fight to happen. if inoue climbs the weight again, then he will not have any chance.
its crazy to see inoue will still be defending his belt after Nery, it would make sense to go all the way up already. but i'm guessing he could not request the fight to be in Japan if he climbs up to fight a champ from the upper weight class?
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when Inoue fell, i think everyone who put their money on him must have been standing up and about to say goodbye to their money.
but then he won by KO again. it isn't surprising but Inoue knocked down was more surprising, it kept watching over and over and it sure can be a big hole in his defense. it may just be his fall next if he fights someone on their heavier division.
this is the first time i saw Inoue showboating by the way. i guess that knock down crawled under his skin.
It was a flash knockdown as he didn't saw that hook coming but i think he was not that hurt as he didn't even clinched to Nery and i admired Inoue's presence of mind and composure and the adjustment he made was awesome that Nery couldn't hit him anymore with his counter left hook.
I think he was showboating so that if Nery would take the bait he will be open for the counter straight of Inoue and yeah he seldom do that.
There are talks that Inoue's next fight will be in September against Sam Goodman so this means that Casimero is already out of the picture of getting/winning the Inoue sweepstakes.
Yes, and Inoue looks hurt though, that's why he didn't stand up and just barely beat the 8 count. He could have been thinking that it's the wrong strategy lol, but he shows composure, get up from the canvass and then show what a Monster he is.
Casimero is out because he is not that impressive and not even in the top 5 as far as any governing bodies goes at 122 lbs if I'm not mistaken.
Sam Goodman but be the next one as he is a number 1 rated from 2 governing bodies so he could really be the next test for Inoue.
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They found a replacement for Artur Beterbiev.
Bivol will face Malik Zinad instead. Zinad is 30 year old with a 20-0 record (16 KOs), currently ranked 9th.
https://www.espn.co.uk/boxing/story/_/id/40085057/dmitry-bivol-defend-title-vs-malik-zinad-riyadh
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They found a replacement for Artur Beterbiev.
Bivol will face Malik Zinad instead. Zinad is 30 year old with a 20-0 record (16 KOs), currently ranked 9th.
https://www.espn.co.uk/boxing/story/_/id/40085057/dmitry-bivol-defend-title-vs-malik-zinad-riyadh
Quite unfortunate that Beterbiev suffered a meniscus injury and will be out for the fight. He will be out until September hence, a replacement is needed. Well, the replacement is also undefeated apparently so it's still a battle of undefeated boxers. I guess let's just see what will happen on this one, and let's expect that whoever win on this match will be the one that Beterbiev will be facing when he comes back in the ring. :)
when Inoue fell,i think everyone who put their money on him must have been standing up and about to say goodbye to their money.
but then he won by KO again. it isn't surprising but Inoue knocked down was more surprising, it kept watching over and over and it sure can be a big hole in his defense. it may just be his fall next if he fights someone on their heavier division.
this is the first time i saw Inoue showboating by the way. i guess that knock down crawled under his skin.
Not for me :D.
I also put some money on him even though the odds on Stake are only 1.20. I didn't expect him to be knocked down on the first round though and just for information, it's his first professional career knockdown but nevertheless, he got his revenge in the 2nd round, and continued to knock Nery down 2 more times until the 6th round.
I think even though it ended up as a decision, it's pretty obvious that Inoue will win on that one just because of how good he is per round. As for his showboating, it's not his first time doing it. He also did it with Stephen Fulton when they faced last time. I mean if you're fighting on your home country with more than 55,000 people watching, at least you need to entertain them a little bit and that's what he did. :D
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Lomachenko vs Kambosos
We almost forget that there will be a good fight this weekend, Loma vs Kambosos. This fight was overshadowed by the recent fight of Canelo and Munguia then just the other night there was a fight between Inoue and Nery.
I do think that this fight will go to the distance with Loma winning as Kambosos is a tough nut to crack.
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I good chance for Lomachenko to get on the track, because after that loss to Devin Haney, which looked like a robbery, he might be morally not ready fight. I am not quite sure that Kambosos is on the same level with Lomachenko to go full distance with him. If we look on their records, then Kambosos last fights were less convincing that he is the best, than Lomachenko. A questionable loss to Haney and two wins vs victory by majority decision and 2 losses. I am not surprised we have odds like that.