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[Boxing]: Info and Prediction Thread
« on: January 03, 2024, 11:32:48 PM »
I created this thread to discuss everything about boxing, schedule fights, odds and prediction. Might be good to have just one thread in this community. It might not be very big as the other forum, but as we grow maybe this thread will also move as there could be a lot of boxing fans around this forum.

https://www.boxingscene.com/manny-pacquiao-vs-buakaw-banchamek-exhibition-fight-set-april-20--180341

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A date has been set down for the exhibition fight between Manny Pacquiao and Buakaw Banchamek.

According to the Banchamek Gym Facebook page, the date of April 20 has been finalized. The event is being organized by Thailand’s Fresh Air Festival Co Ltd and cinema operator SF Corporation.

The bout will be fought under traditional boxing rules.

So we will have the legendary Manny Pacquiao against another legend in Buakaw scheduled for April 20 this year.

Obviously, Manny will have the advantage here as the rules will be boxing and we all know that Manny during his prime is one of the best and always in the discussion for the GOAT.

Any thoughts on this fight?

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Re: [Boxing]: Info and Prediction Thread
« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2024, 12:53:48 AM »
Did you guys see odds released on Francis Ngannou next boxing fight against Anthony Joshua?
They made Ngannou look like a total underdog and I think he is going to love this, so expect even better performance from him.
I am not sure if he can win with boxing refs against him again, but I know that Joshua is not as good as Tyson Fury.
https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/boxing/international/international-matchups/joshua-anthony-v-ngannou-francis-65988f077c9c2400015fdb47
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Re: [Boxing]: Info and Prediction Thread
« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2024, 10:33:55 PM »
Did you guys see odds released on Francis Ngannou next boxing fight against Anthony Joshua?
They made Ngannou look like a total underdog and I think he is going to love this, so expect even better performance from him.
I am not sure if he can win with boxing refs against him again, but I know that Joshua is not as good as Tyson Fury.
https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/boxing/international/international-matchups/joshua-anthony-v-ngannou-francis-65988f077c9c2400015fdb47

Yes mate, thanks for posting it here, not sure what sports bookies was thinking when they gave that odds to Joshua and making Ngannou again a huge underdog in this fight. I know that they have been doing a great job on making odds but Ngannou shows that he can box and even knock down Fury. And if you look at Joshua's history, he doesn't have a good chin to begin with.

So just imagine if Ngannou hit Joshua with his power, I'm not seeing Joshua can recover from it as compare to Fury who can recover and regain his consciousness right away.

But in any case if sports bookies are right again then betting on Joshua at ML is not attractive to us.

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Re: [Boxing]: Info and Prediction Thread
« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2024, 11:25:25 PM »
So just imagine if Ngannou hit Joshua with his power, I'm not seeing Joshua can recover from it as compare to Fury who can recover and regain his consciousness right away.
Ngannou can hurt him for sure, but it would be sensational if he manages to beat him somehow.
To be realistic I have to say that only way for him to win for sure is with a KO, because refs are not going to give him win with points easily.
No matter how this fight ends, Ngannou earned more money from his last two fights than what he totally earned in MMA and from junky Dana White in UFC.
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Re: [Boxing]: Info and Prediction Thread
« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2024, 01:00:19 AM »
So just imagine if Ngannou hit Joshua with his power, I'm not seeing Joshua can recover from it as compare to Fury who can recover and regain his consciousness right away.
Ngannou can hurt him for sure, but it would be sensational if he manages to beat him somehow.
To be realistic I have to say that only way for him to win for sure is with a KO, because refs are not going to give him win with points easily.
No matter how this fight ends, Ngannou earned more money from his last two fights than what he totally earned in MMA and from junky Dana White in UFC.

Speaking of money, yes it's true he will earned more money that he did in his entire career in UFC. It was reported that in the Fury fight alone, he earn $10 million plus others, like PPV numbers.

And in this fight, reports says that might be bigger than that, $10-$20 million for him.

We all know that the major sponsor here is Saudi, and we all know that oil rich country doesn't care about the money. So maybe there are some truth about the numbers that we are seeing about this fight, Joshua about $50 million ++.

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Re: [Boxing]: Info and Prediction Thread
« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2024, 01:09:34 PM »
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To be realistic I have to say that only way for him to win for sure is with a KO, because refs are not going to give him win with points easily.
You are probably referring to the judges and not the refs. Judges controls the scoring unless the ref deducts a point off Ngannou but that unlikely to happen since he's not a dirty fighter. However, the ref could change the outcome of the fight in other ways like prolonging the count if Francis knocks down Anthony.

About the fight odds, I think the huge underdog is just about right. Everybody knows what he looks like in the boxing ring now and what he's capable of. There is no longer an element of surprise there unlike when he fought Fury.

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Re: [Boxing]: Info and Prediction Thread
« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2024, 04:08:21 PM »
it wouldn't be surprising if Francis is now the favorite of bookmakers. he did knock down Fury, only a few had done it despite him not in boxing.  some people have speculated Francis to win that fight though, the man is in combat sports for a long time so he does know how to box. he could win this time with AJ, if Francis can fight up to 10th round with the best HW in boxing, he can extend it to 12.

Francis career had changed for good after he got out of UFC, his 2nd fight proves he making big bucks.  In FFury fight alone it was said he earn 10M.

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Re: [Boxing]: Info and Prediction Thread
« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2024, 03:12:02 PM »
it wouldn't be surprising if Francis is now the favorite of bookmakers. he did knock down Fury, only a few had done it despite him not in boxing.  some people have speculated Francis to win that fight though, the man is in combat sports for a long time so he does know how to box. he could win this time with AJ, if Francis can fight up to 10th round with the best HW in boxing, he can extend it to 12.

Francis career had changed for good after he got out of UFC, his 2nd fight proves he making big bucks.  In FFury fight alone it was said he earn 10M.

Unfortunately it's not the case though, I just browse Stake and this is the odds as per ML,

Joshua - 1.20
Ngannou - 4.20

And so even with Francis performance against Fury, he is still a big underdog here, 4:1 against Joshua. But that's for those odd makers, but for us who have seen Francis performance, we might give him a good chance here, maybe we think it will be a 50/50 fight as Francis has a big power and we all know that AJ can't take punches very well and we might see that if Ngannou landed one of his power punches on the chin of Joshua it could be a knockout and one of the best upset this year.

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Re: [Boxing]: Info and Prediction Thread
« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2024, 05:51:48 PM »
it wouldn't be surprising if Francis is now the favorite of bookmakers. he did knock down Fury, only a few had done it despite him not in boxing.  some people have speculated Francis to win that fight though, the man is in combat sports for a long time so he does know how to box. he could win this time with AJ, if Francis can fight up to 10th round with the best HW in boxing, he can extend it to 12.

Francis career had changed for good after he got out of UFC, his 2nd fight proves he making big bucks.  In FFury fight alone it was said he earn 10M.

Unfortunately it's not the case though, I just browse Stake and this is the odds as per ML,

Joshua - 1.20
Ngannou - 4.20

And so even with Francis performance against Fury, he is still a big underdog here, 4:1 against Joshua. But that's for those odd makers, but for us who have seen Francis performance, we might give him a good chance here, maybe we think it will be a 50/50 fight as Francis has a big power and we all know that AJ can't take punches very well and we might see that if Ngannou landed one of his power punches on the chin of Joshua it could be a knockout and one of the best upset this year.

bookmakers still under rate Francis despite how he executed his previous fight.   its a good chance to win big by rooting for Francis.  by having same game plan when he fought Fury, Francis could win.

the thought of Frank getting KOed is possible though. AJ still is far experienced in boxing and he fought hard boxers, having the balls to fight Usyk makes him a standup guy. among the HW, he surely fought the tough guys above him.

i would probably go for Ngannou, Francis By Decision 16.00 with a small amount.

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Re: [Boxing]: Info and Prediction Thread
« Reply #9 on: January 13, 2024, 12:24:07 AM »
We have a upcoming fight this weekend, between Arthur Beterbiev vs Callum Smith.

They already make the official weigh-in here:


Beterbiev - 1.23
Smith - 3.95

I think this will not go to the judges scorecard as Beterbiev possesses a knockout power. I'm predicting that maybe 8-10 rounds that Beterbiev will score a referee stoppage or knocking down Smith to win.

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« Reply #10 on: January 14, 2024, 08:44:49 AM »
^^ Fight is over, the corner of Callum Smith stop the fight are round 7, because their boxer is taking too much punishment from Beterbiev. And with this one it cemented Arthur's status as one of the best LHW in the division.

But he has another one to beat and that is Dmitri Bivol who has a belt as well. In the post fight interview, he said that he wanted to fight Bivol for unification. So it's good thing that we hear it from him. But still depends on how their respective managers are going to negotiate. Nevertheless we do hope that this can happen this year.

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« Reply #11 on: January 18, 2024, 12:22:57 AM »
There is a upcoming fight between Loma and Kambosos,

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https://www.boxingscene.com/vasiliy-lomachenko-george-kambosos-deal-done-512-perth-moloneys-on-undercard--180712

This fight is supposed to happen before, but it's good to see that finally they are going to fight and will go for the IBF 135 lbs.

Who do you think will win this fight?

I have Loma winning in a unanimous decision here.

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« Reply #12 on: January 18, 2024, 07:58:10 PM »
There is a upcoming fight between Loma and Kambosos,

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https://www.boxingscene.com/vasiliy-lomachenko-george-kambosos-deal-done-512-perth-moloneys-on-undercard--180712

This fight is supposed to happen before, but it's good to see that finally they are going to fight and will go for the IBF 135 lbs.

Who do you think will win this fight?

I have Loma winning in a unanimous decision here.

why do it have to be in IBF, there's WBO which the champ is also vacant. loma is getting old though, its a risky bet to root for him.  5 years ago would have been a better loma but now its like of a 50/50 chance.

he can last the 12 rounds that for sure but so is kambosos. loma can absorb kambosos' punch without prob. so this fight can play out like stealing rounds every time there just 10 seconds left.

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Re: [Boxing]: Info and Prediction Thread
« Reply #13 on: January 18, 2024, 10:54:24 PM »
There is a upcoming fight between Loma and Kambosos,

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Vasiliy Lomachenko and George Kambosos Jr. will fight a little later than anticipated, but their lightweight championship clash will still take place in Kambosos’ home country of Australia.

https://www.boxingscene.com/vasiliy-lomachenko-george-kambosos-deal-done-512-perth-moloneys-on-undercard--180712

This fight is supposed to happen before, but it's good to see that finally they are going to fight and will go for the IBF 135 lbs.

Who do you think will win this fight?

I have Loma winning in a unanimous decision here.

why do it have to be in IBF, there's WBO which the champ is also vacant. loma is getting old though, its a risky bet to root for him.  5 years ago would have been a better loma but now its like of a 50/50 chance.

he can last the 12 rounds that for sure but so is kambosos. loma can absorb kambosos' punch without prob. so this fight can play out like stealing rounds every time there just 10 seconds left.

I assumed it's not financially wise for Loma to fight for the WBO belt, who is the WBO number 2? Denys Berinchyk? We haven't heard of this fighter before. But with the IBF, it's Kambosos their number 2 and then Loma number 3.

Besides it's all money for Top Rank, and so it make sense for them to go with this fight and I think IBF is fine with it obviously. Perhaps if Loma will win this fight, he can go after the WBO belt. But for now, financial and business wise, it make sense for this two to go for the IBF belt first.

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Re: [Boxing]: Info and Prediction Thread
« Reply #14 on: January 19, 2024, 11:22:34 PM »
This is the promo for the Usyk vs Fury fight,



Undercards are also in, but fans are complaining because it's not as good as we expected.

Joe Cordina vs. Anthony Cacace
Sergey Kovalev vs. Robin Sirwan
Isaac Lowe vs. Hasibullah Ahmadi
Moses Itauma vs. TBA Bakhodir
Jalolov vs. TBA
David Nyika vs. TBA

So its obvious that this fighters are no name. They made a very poor choices of fighter to put as their undercard in this big fight.

 

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