[Boxing]: Info and Prediction Thread

[Baofeng]

it wouldn't be surprising if Francis is now the favorite of bookmakers. he did knock down Fury, only a few had done it despite him not in boxing.  some people have speculated Francis to win that fight though, the man is in combat sports for a long time so he does know how to box. he could win this time with AJ, if Francis can fight up to 10th round with the best HW in boxing, he can extend it to 12.

Francis career had changed for good after he got out of UFC, his 2nd fight proves he making big bucks.  In FFury fight alone it was said he earn 10M.

Unfortunately it's not the case though, I just browse Stake and this is the odds as per ML,

Joshua - 1.20
Ngannou - 4.20

And so even with Francis performance against Fury, he is still a big underdog here, 4:1 against Joshua. But that's for those odd makers, but for us who have seen Francis performance, we might give him a good chance here, maybe we think it will be a 50/50 fight as Francis has a big power and we all know that AJ can't take punches very well and we might see that if Ngannou landed one of his power punches on the chin of Joshua it could be a knockout and one of the best upset this year.

bookmakers still under rate Francis despite how he executed his previous fight.   its a good chance to win big by rooting for Francis.  by having same game plan when he fought Fury, Francis could win.

the thought of Frank getting KOed is possible though. AJ still is far experienced in boxing and he fought hard boxers, having the balls to fight Usyk makes him a standup guy. among the HW, he surely fought the tough guys above him.

i would probably go for Ngannou, Francis By Decision 16.00 with a small amount.

I do agree that bookmakers are underestimating Francis capability to pull an upset. But for us bettors who think that Ngannou has a good chance, then maybe it's good to bet on him at ML.

But if you are looking for more attractive odds, yeah, why not Francis by decision as this is a long shot.

Because I do believed that if Francis if going to win, it will be a KO victory and Joshua winning could be via decision.

[bisdak40]

Because I do believed that if Francis if going to win, it will be a KO victory and Joshua winning could be via decision.

Also agree that Francis's chance of winning this fight is through a knockout because he is more heavy-handed than Joshua I think and he might throw more bombs than AJ which in my opinion will be very careful on this one. AJ's confidence might be back but he will be extra cautious as to not suffer a devastating knockout to an MMA fighter hehe.

BTW, good to be here. One question though, how to become a legendary on this forum? What's needed, Karma? Have not explored much as of this moment but definitely, i will be staying a lot on this forum from now on.

[Baofeng]

Because I do believed that if Francis if going to win, it will be a KO victory and Joshua winning could be via decision.

Also agree that Francis's chance of winning this fight is through a knockout because he is more heavy-handed than Joshua I think and he might throw more bombs than AJ which in my opinion will be very careful on this one. AJ's confidence might be back but he will be extra cautious as to not suffer a devastating knockout to an MMA fighter hehe.

Yes, and that's why we enjoyed seeing though, a knockout in a fight. AJ chin has been tested already and so he has to protect it. And we have seen the power of Ngannou from his UFC days and it's proven in boxing when he knock down Fury.

So everything is based on his power right now, if that landed, then AJ will be in trouble. And I don't think that AJ can boxed the full 12 rounds, he will get tired doing it and that will be that small opening that Francis might have to look.

[bisdak40]

So it's becoming clearer now that the indefinite suspension of Luis Nery will be lifted by the Japanese Boxing Commission as the planned of holding this Inoue vs Nery fight is also becoming clearer. Don't know where they held the Tapales fight but this Nery fight is planned to be held in Tokyo Dome which i think could accommodate more audience and of course, more people means more revenue.

https://www.boxingscene.com/naoya-inoue-luis-nery-122-pound-championship-clash-planned-6-tokyo-dome--180939

[Baofeng]

So it's becoming clearer now that the indefinite suspension of Luis Nery will be lifted by the Japanese Boxing Commission as the planned of holding this Inoue vs Nery fight is also becoming clearer. Don't know where they held the Tapales fight but this Nery fight is planned to be held in Tokyo Dome which i think could accommodate more audience and of course, more people means more revenue.

https://www.boxingscene.com/naoya-inoue-luis-nery-122-pound-championship-clash-planned-6-tokyo-dome--180939

Yes, mate it's official now, Nery's supposedly lifetime ban is lifted because he will be fighting Japan's number fighter in Inoue. So that JBC will have to adjust to their own rule against Nery and now will allow him to fight in Japan again.

I think the fight between Tapales vs Inoue is held on Saitama. The usual venue for Japanese fights, but it seems that they could be looking for bigger venues for Inoue moving forward.

[Baofeng]

Weigh in for Munguia vs Ryder

Main event tomorrow night in Phoenix Arizona, WBC Silver Middleweight champion.

Munguia - 167.8 lbs
Ryder - 167.8 lbs

Going to be some spectacle in this fight, both are looking for a good payday next, maybe against the champion in Canelo or another young prospect in Berlanga.

[bisdak40]

Weigh in for Munguia vs Ryder

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Main event tomorrow night in Phoenix Arizona, WBC Silver Middleweight champion.

Munguia - 167.8 lbs
Ryder - 167.8 lbs

Going to be some spectacle in this fight, both are looking for a good payday next, maybe against the champion in Canelo or another young prospect in Berlanga.

I thought at first that Ryder is the favorite but after browsing on my favorite sportsbook, it turns out that Munguia is the favorite to win of the two.

Yup, the winner will have a lucrative payday ahead of them if the winner will Canelo but i doubt it would happen sooner as Canelo got a plan of his own and both fighters are not on his hit list.

[Baofeng]

Weigh in for Munguia vs Ryder

~snip~

Main event tomorrow night in Phoenix Arizona, WBC Silver Middleweight champion.

Munguia - 167.8 lbs
Ryder - 167.8 lbs

Going to be some spectacle in this fight, both are looking for a good payday next, maybe against the champion in Canelo or another young prospect in Berlanga.

I thought at first that Ryder is the favorite but after browsing on my favorite sportsbook, it turns out that Munguia is the favorite to win of the two.

Yup, the winner will have a lucrative payday ahead of them if the winner will Canelo but i doubt it would happen sooner as Canelo got a plan of his own and both fighters are not on his hit list.

Yes, it's the young boxer who is the favorite, but we all know that Ryder has good chance and being the undercard it could motivate him more. Munguia is the up and coming star of this division and that's why you will hear them saying that Canelo is their target.

It's true that Canelo has plans, even bigger than Munguia like Benavidez, but it seems that Canelo at least for now are not looking at it.

(Good to see you here mate getting active as well) 

[Baofeng]

Jaime Munguia dominated John Ryder as he stops him in 9th round. He scored 4 knockdown in this fight. But for me I think Munguia is still raw, although he is working with coach Freddie in this fight, there are still a lot of room to improved.

But he has time, he is still very young.

As for Ryder, he said that he will retire if he lose in this fight. It's just bad match up from him. Munguia has power in both hands and good chin as he is not affected by the power jabs of Ryder.

[bisdak40]

Jaime Munguia dominated John Ryder as he stops him in 9th round. He scored 4 knockdown in this fight. But for me I think Munguia is still raw, although he is working with coach Freddie in this fight, there are still a lot of room to improved.

But he has time, he is still very young.

As for Ryder, he said that he will retire if he lose in this fight. It's just bad match up from him. Munguia has power in both hands and good chin as he is not affected by the power jabs of Ryder.

I watched the replay on Youtube and you are right, there are still a lot to improve for Munguia's raw talent. They should not rush this kid to fight for a championship, 3 or 4 more fights like Ryder then he is good to go for the championship belt i think.

As for John Ryder, i think it's time for him to hang the gloves for good as he was made a stepping stone by young talents which could harm his physical health.

[pawel7777]

We are getting closer to possibly the greatest fight in the modern era of boxing, Fury Vs Usuk, which will unify the following belts: WBC (Fury) and WBA, WBO, IBF, IBO (Usyk). So unless the fight ends with a draw, we will see the first undisputed heavyweight champion in over 20 years.
An interesting face-off style interview popped up 3 days ago:

I like this form of interview as it allows to assess who is more confident and has a mental advantage. I think it's clear that Fury appeared to be mentally dominating, but it's hard to imagine anyone being better than him in this element.

[FinneysTrueVision]

I watched the replay on Youtube and you are right, there are still a lot to improve for Munguia's raw talent. They should not rush this kid to fight for a championship, 3 or 4 more fights like Ryder then he is good to go for the championship belt i think.

As for John Ryder, i think it's time for him to hang the gloves for good as he was made a stepping stone by young talents which could harm his physical health.

Munguia already has 43 fights. One of the criticisms he's faced is that his opposition has been too soft. If his promoter felt he was ready to fight Golovkin in 2018, when GGG was looking for a replacement opponent after Canelo was suspended, then he should be ready to fight that level of competition now that he has a lot more experience.

It is true that his defense needs a lot of improvement but he is still offensively very strong. It is time to step up his level of competition. Unfortunately for Munguia, PBC has most of the top fighters in the division and they don't like to work with other promoters. If politics weren't an issue then I would like to see him against Canelo, Jermall Charlo, or David Benavidez.

[bisdak40]

I watched the replay on Youtube and you are right, there are still a lot to improve for Munguia's raw talent. They should not rush this kid to fight for a championship, 3 or 4 more fights like Ryder then he is good to go for the championship belt i think.

As for John Ryder, i think it's time for him to hang the gloves for good as he was made a stepping stone by young talents which could harm his physical health.

Munguia already has 43 fights. One of the criticisms he's faced is that his opposition has been too soft. If his promoter felt he was ready to fight Golovkin in 2018, when GGG was looking for a replacement opponent after Canelo was suspended, then he should be ready to fight that level of competition now that he has a lot more experience.

It is true that his defense needs a lot of improvement but he is still offensively very strong. It is time to step up his level of competition. Unfortunately for Munguia, PBC has most of the top fighters in the division and they don't like to work with other promoters. If politics weren't an issue then I would like to see him against Canelo, Jermall Charlo, or David Benavidez.

I have read the social media post of Benavidez after the fight of Munguia, the former have said that Munguia is an easy fight or knockout if they are to meet in the ring. Benavidez might have a point but as you have said that boxing politics will not allow the two to meet. One option for Munguia is to opt-out of his current promoter just like what Canelo did so he can have full control of his career.

[notblox1]

I like this form of interview as it allows to assess who is more confident and has a mental advantage. I think it's clear that Fury appeared to be mentally dominating, but it's hard to imagine anyone being better than him in this element.

Great interview and you deserved some positive karma!
I watched interviews like this in older Tyson Fury fights and I saw he is very smart both in talking and boxing.
Cant wait for this fight to get started, and I think this fight wont go to distance.
Betting on Fury to win is not bad, but fight to end early pays amazing, and I think someone is going down
Check the odds: https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/boxing/international/international-matchups/fury-tyson-v-usyk-oleksandr-6554faff0a6c950001760aff

[bisdak40]

Breaking news:

Shakur Stevenson announced in his tweeter account that he is retiring from the sport of boxing. Don't know the reason but i do think that he is not that hungry for a title anymore and that showed on his last performance against Edwin De Los Santos where he almost lost that one with a sub par performance.

Maybe a fight with Haney could make him unretire.