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Author Topic: Haney and Garcia to fight for WBC Junior Welterweight Title On April 20  (Read 1498 times)

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Re: Haney and Garcia to fight for WBC Junior Welterweight Title On April 20
« Reply #15 on: March 04, 2024, 11:33:10 PM »
I hope nothing like that will happen the boxing community is enjoying the dramas, the thrash talks, and the allegations it seems both fighters are definitely looking forward to the fight if anyone backs out of it they are going to get a lot of insults, the boxing community expect nothing less, this is a legacy fight for each other and both of them will make a lot of money, so they have to be man enough to make it happen.

Same here, this is the fight that i want for Ryan Garcia because if he loses this one, his career might be over while for Haney this might be an easy work on papers but needless to say that he needs to be very careful of Ryan Garcia's haymaker. The good thing about this fight is the drama and thrash talks going into the fight, an additional spice to sell this of course.

I don't think that his career will be over if he loses to Devin Haney, sure it might take a hit, but he will resume maybe change coach or trainer again and continue to chase money fights. Also, when he says that he is fighting Haney for this legacy, Nah, this is simply for the money as admit it or not, he is one of the biggest draw right now, even bigger by Canelo.

So this fight is going to be big in terms of money, PPV numbers might hit 1 millions PPV.

True, if you are a subscribe to DAZN then you don't have to pay for it, but if not they you have to buy the PPV and it might cost you big money. But for fans, then doesn't matter as long as they see Ryan vs Haney fight.
He can still go on and box but every boxer in their prime besides making a lot of money also want to have a lasting legacy that will have them a spot in the hall of fame if Garcia keeps losing to top boxers in his prime then he may have a lot of money but he doesn't have a legacy to speak about when he retires, people will just consider him a boxer who earns a lot of money but do not deserves a place in the hall of fame.

he is too young to really be talking about legacy while he lost a fight already against tank. if he is talking about his ability to market a fight, he isn't that much effective as people have seen these days which he had been posting videos about ghost or something.

floyd should be talking to him about what he is posting because that affects credibility but you know its ryan's thing. if he can brag about knocking out fighters in UFC then  he better back it up if one replies to it.

the only thing he got right now is that he is popular, good looking but if he starts losing again, it won't be long people will look at him the way people look at broner.

No homo, but this what attracts non boxing fans to Ryan, he has the good looks and we can compare him to his boss Oscar Dela Hoya when he was young and making a lot of money during his prime.

Hopefully though he will not turn out what Oscar did in the last year of his career, hehehe.

Broner though is different, he doesn't have the charisma and fans wanted him to lose,  but here, fans wanted Ryan to win and continue with his career because he is like a magnet to boxing and non boxing fans.

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Re: Haney and Garcia to fight for WBC Junior Welterweight Title On April 20
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Re: Haney and Garcia to fight for WBC Junior Welterweight Title On April 20
« Reply #16 on: March 04, 2024, 11:50:07 PM »


No homo, but this what attracts non boxing fans to Ryan, he has the good looks and we can compare him to his boss Oscar Dela Hoya when he was young and making a lot of money during his prime.

Hopefully though he will not turn out what Oscar did in the last year of his career, hehehe.

Broner though is different, he doesn't have the charisma and fans wanted him to lose,  but here, fans wanted Ryan to win and continue with his career because he is like a magnet to boxing and non boxing fans.

Yes they do have similarities but the Golden Boy achieved a lot and in the early stage of his career he was an Olympic Gold Medalist and Golden Champion multi-title something that Ryan hasn't achieved at this stage of his career, he is an underachiever he may have a box office appeal right now but he needs to follow it up with impressive wins against notable and worthy opponents and wins a lot of title we have 4 boxing organizations and until now hasn't won one.
Right now he is 0-1 against a notable fighter lets see after this fight if he can even it out or he'll go 0-2
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Re: Haney and Garcia to fight for WBC Junior Welterweight Title On April 20
« Reply #17 on: March 04, 2024, 11:51:00 PM »


No homo, but this what attracts non boxing fans to Ryan, he has the good looks and we can compare him to his boss Oscar Dela Hoya when he was young and making a lot of money during his prime.

Hopefully though he will not turn out what Oscar did in the last year of his career, hehehe.

Broner though is different, he doesn't have the charisma and fans wanted him to lose,  but here, fans wanted Ryan to win and continue with his career because he is like a magnet to boxing and non boxing fans.

Yes they do have similarities but the Golden Boy achieved a lot and in the early stage of his career he was an Olympic Gold Medalist and Golden Globe Champion multi-title champion in different weight categories something that Ryan hasn't achieved at this stage of his career, he is an underachiever he may have a box office appeal right now but he needs to follow it up with impressive wins against notable and worthy opponents and wins a lot of titles we have 4 boxing organizations and until now hasn't won one.
Right now he is 0-1 against a notable fighter lets see after this fight if he can even it out or he'll go 0-2
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Re: Haney and Garcia to fight for WBC Junior Welterweight Title On April 20
« Reply #18 on: March 05, 2024, 04:53:16 AM »
I hope nothing like that will happen the boxing community is enjoying the dramas, the thrash talks, and the allegations it seems both fighters are definitely looking forward to the fight if anyone backs out of it they are going to get a lot of insults, the boxing community expect nothing less, this is a legacy fight for each other and both of them will make a lot of money, so they have to be man enough to make it happen.

Same here, this is the fight that i want for Ryan Garcia because if he loses this one, his career might be over while for Haney this might be an easy work on papers but needless to say that he needs to be very careful of Ryan Garcia's haymaker. The good thing about this fight is the drama and thrash talks going into the fight, an additional spice to sell this of course.

I don't think that his career will be over if he loses to Devin Haney, sure it might take a hit, but he will resume maybe change coach or trainer again and continue to chase money fights. Also, when he says that he is fighting Haney for this legacy, Nah, this is simply for the money as admit it or not, he is one of the biggest draw right now, even bigger by Canelo.

So this fight is going to be big in terms of money, PPV numbers might hit 1 millions PPV.

True, if you are a subscribe to DAZN then you don't have to pay for it, but if not they you have to buy the PPV and it might cost you big money. But for fans, then doesn't matter as long as they see Ryan vs Haney fight.
He can still go on and box but every boxer in their prime besides making a lot of money also want to have a lasting legacy that will have them a spot in the hall of fame if Garcia keeps losing to top boxers in his prime then he may have a lot of money but he doesn't have a legacy to speak about when he retires, people will just consider him a boxer who earns a lot of money but do not deserves a place in the hall of fame.

he is too young to really be talking about legacy while he lost a fight already against tank. if he is talking about his ability to market a fight, he isn't that much effective as people have seen these days which he had been posting videos about ghost or something.

floyd should be talking to him about what he is posting because that affects credibility but you know its ryan's thing. if he can brag about knocking out fighters in UFC then  he better back it up if one replies to it.

the only thing he got right now is that he is popular, good looking but if he starts losing again, it won't be long people will look at him the way people look at broner.

You can't blame him though, his life is in boxing, his father was a coach and the mom was a boxing judge in the amateurs. So maybe that's what instilled in his mind when he started his pro boxing career, yes you can make a lot of money, yes you can carve your own legacy. And then he has been compare to his promoter Oscar Dela Hoya who himself has his own legacy already. He already lost to Devin Haney, and yet he is still popular. Broner was all "About Billions" and his swag is very different, what he try to emulate is Floyd and when he lost to Maidana then it's down fall for him. I don't see Ryan going that way even if he was knockout by Haney.

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Re: Haney and Garcia to fight for WBC Junior Welterweight Title On April 20
« Reply #19 on: March 05, 2024, 09:08:38 AM »
he is too young to really be talking about legacy while he lost a fight already against tank. if he is talking about his ability to market a fight, he isn't that much effective as people have seen these days which he had been posting videos about ghost or something.

floyd should be talking to him about what he is posting because that affects credibility but you know its ryan's thing. if he can brag about knocking out fighters in UFC then  he better back it up if one replies to it.

the only thing he got right now is that he is popular, good looking but if he starts losing again, it won't be long people will look at him the way people look at broner.

Agree, Ryan Garcia has not accomplished anything yet that he can brag about as he has not been a belt holder yet. Though i agree that he can sell a fight due to his popularity on social media but a lose to Haney will make him a gatekeeper of some sort hehe.

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Re: Haney and Garcia to fight for WBC Junior Welterweight Title On April 20
« Reply #20 on: March 05, 2024, 08:09:58 PM »
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You can't blame him though, his life is in boxing, his father was a coach and the mom was a boxing judge in the amateurs. So maybe that's what instilled in his mind when he started his pro boxing career, yes you can make a lot of money, yes you can carve your own legacy. And then he has been compare to his promoter Oscar Dela Hoya who himself has his own legacy already. He already lost to Devin Haney, and yet he is still popular. Broner was all "About Billions" and his swag is very different, what he try to emulate is Floyd and when he lost to Maidana then it's down fall for him. I don't see Ryan going that way even if he was knockout by Haney.

now that Ryan was recently in custody and his money was seized as he claimed. if this is true like the videos he posted yesterday, he really will have a hard time this time. he is having a meltdown in twitter and then he thinks there's a group of people conspiring against him.

what did Haney said to him that made Ryan go insane in twitter.  Ryan gone crazy already, he fight hasn't even started yet.

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Re: Haney and Garcia to fight for WBC Junior Welterweight Title On April 20
« Reply #21 on: March 06, 2024, 06:03:08 AM »
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You can't blame him though, his life is in boxing, his father was a coach and the mom was a boxing judge in the amateurs. So maybe that's what instilled in his mind when he started his pro boxing career, yes you can make a lot of money, yes you can carve your own legacy. And then he has been compare to his promoter Oscar Dela Hoya who himself has his own legacy already. He already lost to Devin Haney, and yet he is still popular. Broner was all "About Billions" and his swag is very different, what he try to emulate is Floyd and when he lost to Maidana then it's down fall for him. I don't see Ryan going that way even if he was knockout by Haney.

now that Ryan was recently in custody and his money was seized as he claimed. if this is true like the videos he posted yesterday, he really will have a hard time this time. he is having a meltdown in twitter and then he thinks there's a group of people conspiring against him.

what did Haney said to him that made Ryan go insane in twitter.  Ryan gone crazy already, he fight hasn't even started yet.

Have not read anything about the above but if indeed that is true then i think Ryan Garcia's mental health problem recurs and this might be the reason for the fight to be postpone or worse get cancelled.

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Re: Haney and Garcia to fight for WBC Junior Welterweight Title On April 20
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Re: Haney and Garcia to fight for WBC Junior Welterweight Title On April 20
« Reply #22 on: March 06, 2024, 12:18:58 PM »
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You can't blame him though, his life is in boxing, his father was a coach and the mom was a boxing judge in the amateurs. So maybe that's what instilled in his mind when he started his pro boxing career, yes you can make a lot of money, yes you can carve your own legacy. And then he has been compare to his promoter Oscar Dela Hoya who himself has his own legacy already. He already lost to Devin Haney, and yet he is still popular. Broner was all "About Billions" and his swag is very different, what he try to emulate is Floyd and when he lost to Maidana then it's down fall for him. I don't see Ryan going that way even if he was knockout by Haney.

now that Ryan was recently in custody and his money was seized as he claimed. if this is true like the videos he posted yesterday, he really will have a hard time this time. he is having a meltdown in twitter and then he thinks there's a group of people conspiring against him.

what did Haney said to him that made Ryan go insane in twitter.  Ryan gone crazy already, he fight hasn't even started yet.

Have not read anything about the above but if indeed that is true then i think Ryan Garcia's mental health problem recurs and this might be the reason for the fight to be postpone or worse get cancelled.

Yes, he is somewhat acting strange lately. Even Devin Haney says that during their kick off press conference, Garcia's breath smells something, and he did speculate that he might be drinking during that time. And I saw, but it was just a glance, that even Garcia's ex-wife is commenting on his weird behaviour.

So we are not sure if he is doing this for the promotion, or this is a sign that he might have another mental breakdown. Oscar should be very careful though and he should monitor stunts in public as this is not going to be good for his image.

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Re: Haney and Garcia to fight for WBC Junior Welterweight Title On April 20
« Reply #23 on: March 06, 2024, 12:24:27 PM »
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You can't blame him though, his life is in boxing, his father was a coach and the mom was a boxing judge in the amateurs. So maybe that's what instilled in his mind when he started his pro boxing career, yes you can make a lot of money, yes you can carve your own legacy. And then he has been compare to his promoter Oscar Dela Hoya who himself has his own legacy already. He already lost to Devin Haney, and yet he is still popular. Broner was all "About Billions" and his swag is very different, what he try to emulate is Floyd and when he lost to Maidana then it's down fall for him. I don't see Ryan going that way even if he was knockout by Haney.

now that Ryan was recently in custody and his money was seized as he claimed. if this is true like the videos he posted yesterday, he really will have a hard time this time. he is having a meltdown in twitter and then he thinks there's a group of people conspiring against him.

what did Haney said to him that made Ryan go insane in twitter.  Ryan gone crazy already, he fight hasn't even started yet.

Have not read anything about the above but if indeed that is true then i think Ryan Garcia's mental health problem recurs and this might be the reason for the fight to be postpone or worse get cancelled.

Yes, he is somewhat acting strange lately. Even Devin Haney says that during their kick off press conference, Garcia's breath smells something, and he did speculate that he might be drinking during that time. And I saw, but it was just a glance, that even Garcia's ex-wife is commenting on his weird behaviour.

So we are not sure if he is doing this for the promotion, or this is a sign that he might have another mental breakdown. Oscar should be very careful though and he should monitor stunts in public as this is not going to be good for his image.

For me this is just for the promotion of this fight. He wanted more and like to maybe topple the record that he did against Tank Davis.
And so he will do anything in public to attract attention to him. Or it could be that he wanted Devin Haney to be confident and see him as somewhat losing his mind. But at the fight night, it will be different Garcia who is just in the zone to knockout his rival and become a 140 lbs champion finally.

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Re: Haney and Garcia to fight for WBC Junior Welterweight Title On April 20
« Reply #24 on: March 06, 2024, 08:56:43 PM »

Ryan already accusing hi family raped him and that his money was held and so he doesn't have access to it. that's really something crazy to say to promote a fight.
the kid is on drugs. in his video he looks like he hasn't a night and then talking about rituals where kids were rape in-front of him which he is exposing child rapist. and then he has a proof and then he is not showing.   

Ryan as young as he is, with more than $40M in his pocket, i'm sure this guy had got serious mental issue.

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Re: Haney and Garcia to fight for WBC Junior Welterweight Title On April 20
« Reply #25 on: March 07, 2024, 03:29:54 AM »

Ryan already accusing hi family raped him and that his money was held and so he doesn't have access to it. that's really something crazy to say to promote a fight.
the kid is on drugs. in his video he looks like he hasn't a night and then talking about rituals where kids were rape in-front of him which he is exposing child rapist. and then he has a proof and then he is not showing.   

Ryan as young as he is, with more than $40M in his pocket, i'm sure this guy had got serious mental issue.

This is serious allegation that could have impact on him going into the fight. By the way, do you have the video of this where he accused his family of raping him as i have not seen anything about this on my social media feed.

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Re: Haney and Garcia to fight for WBC Junior Welterweight Title On April 20
« Reply #26 on: March 07, 2024, 11:39:55 AM »

Ryan already accusing hi family raped him and that his money was held and so he doesn't have access to it. that's really something crazy to say to promote a fight.
the kid is on drugs. in his video he looks like he hasn't a night and then talking about rituals where kids were rape in-front of him which he is exposing child rapist. and then he has a proof and then he is not showing.   

Ryan as young as he is, with more than $40M in his pocket, i'm sure this guy had got serious mental issue.

This is serious allegation that could have impact on him going into the fight. By the way, do you have the video of this where he accused his family of raping him as i have not seen anything about this on my social media feed.

He just said though that the next tweet of him is all about boxing, so that is good enough indication that he might be trying to get himself back in boxing and not post anything that can hurt him, specially personal issues and what conspiracies he had in his mind.

And hopefully, this is not the case though, I mean in the kick off press conference, both of his parents are present there and both of them have huge influence on his life as a boxer. As his father is a trainer as well and his mom a judge in the amateurs. So it's really hard to imagine what is going on in his mind right now when he goes to public with this serious allegations and if this is true, might hurt his relationships with the people around him.

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Re: Haney and Garcia to fight for WBC Junior Welterweight Title On April 20
« Reply #27 on: March 07, 2024, 05:01:23 PM »

Ryan already accusing hi family raped him and that his money was held and so he doesn't have access to it. that's really something crazy to say to promote a fight.
the kid is on drugs. in his video he looks like he hasn't a night and then talking about rituals where kids were rape in-front of him which he is exposing child rapist. and then he has a proof and then he is not showing.   

Ryan as young as he is, with more than $40M in his pocket, i'm sure this guy had got serious mental issue.
I always watch Stephen A. Smith videos on his YouTube channel, and just a few hours ago, he posted his opinion on what's happening with Ryan Garcia right now.
https://youtu.be/8n3aR15iwsw?si=CsPf4zrRigtjz5T1

Watch the video if you have time, but the kid has serious mental issues. Posting cryptic messages online, accusing here and there, trash-talking Haney to the fullest, etc. I don't know if he has mental issues or he's just hyping himself or whatever, but saying to him that he's under the influence of drugs? I don't think that's the case for him. Yes, he's posting something that we've never seen him doing online, but I don't think that he's taking drugs, but there's a deeper reason for that. Maybe he wants clout?

I guess it's safe to say that he's having some mental problems currently, but seeing him like that makes me think that the match will be one-sided.

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Re: Haney and Garcia to fight for WBC Junior Welterweight Title On April 20
« Reply #28 on: March 07, 2024, 08:35:21 PM »

Ryan already accusing hi family raped him and that his money was held and so he doesn't have access to it. that's really something crazy to say to promote a fight.
the kid is on drugs. in his video he looks like he hasn't a night and then talking about rituals where kids were rape in-front of him which he is exposing child rapist. and then he has a proof and then he is not showing.   

Ryan as young as he is, with more than $40M in his pocket, i'm sure this guy had got serious mental issue.
I always watch Stephen A. Smith videos on his YouTube channel, and just a few hours ago, he posted his opinion on what's happening with Ryan Garcia right now.
https://youtu.be/8n3aR15iwsw?si=CsPf4zrRigtjz5T1

Watch the video if you have time, but the kid has serious mental issues. Posting cryptic messages online, accusing here and there, trash-talking Haney to the fullest, etc. I don't know if he has mental issues or he's just hyping himself or whatever, but saying to him that he's under the influence of drugs? I don't think that's the case for him. Yes, he's posting something that we've never seen him doing online, but I don't think that he's taking drugs, but there's a deeper reason for that. Maybe he wants clout?

I guess it's safe to say that he's having some mental problems currently, but seeing him like that makes me think that the match will be one-sided.

so much he had in his mind when in fact a kid like him with so much money on his hand, could be enjoying everyday. traveling and dating women everyday too. its like he doesn't realized what he is missing. there are tons of things in this world to enjoy but he is focusing so much of his loss.

but the loss trust to his camp is the beginning of all these. and i think there is a real story behind the group that bohemian grove that he is talking with tate. either it was true that some group of individual conspire to get him or he really is insane. canceling the fight would make sense as Stephen said.





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Re: Haney and Garcia to fight for WBC Junior Welterweight Title On April 20
« Reply #29 on: March 15, 2024, 06:47:15 PM »
There's a report that the sales of the tickets is not taking off because the price of the ticket is quite high and the location is another factor, Newyork is not a good place to hold their fight because it is very costly for the fans of both fighters and the boxing community don't like the fight turning into a circus plus of course reports of Ryan's breakdown which the boxing community takes it as a negative news.
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