Signature campaigns & forum earning discussion thread.

[pawel7777]

Signature campaigns & forum earning discussion

Creating this topic to move any discussion related to signature campaigns away from Overview of Altcoinstalks Signature Campaigns so it could stay limited to posting updates only. Otherwise it'll be hard for the OP (or other readers) to keep track of any changes.

Feel free to share any thoughts/opinions on anything related to signature campaigns here.

mods - if this is not a right place for this kind of topic, please move it.

[notblox1]

I want to hear from other members what type of changes and improvements they want to see in altcoinstalks forum campaigns.

Everyone surely wants to see higher payment rates but please write anything else as your suggestions except payment.

[BitMaxz]

I want to hear from other members what type of changes and improvements they want to see in altcoinstalks forum campaigns.

Everyone surely wants to see higher payment rates but please write anything else as your suggestions except payment.

Currently, the forum impressions are not as high as the other forum and I don't think we will see an increase in payment rates maybe after 2 or 3 months if we see many people joining here on the forum and get huge impressions we might see rates increase.
Don't forget altcoin season is coming I think after a few months or maybe next year but for now it's too vague to see payment rates increase soon unless they force people to make high-quality posts.

[pawel7777]

Currently, the forum impressions are not as high as the other forum and I don't think we will see an increase in payment rates maybe after 2 or 3 months if we see many people joining here on the forum and get huge impressions we might see rates increase.
Don't forget altcoin season is coming I think after a few months or maybe next year but for now it's too vague to see payment rates increase soon unless they force people to make high-quality posts.

Things could pick up if we have more active campaigns. As of now, all of them are mixers except for SWGT (a token). I can't see any reason why more services of any type could not start advertising here. The audience is smaller than on bitcointalk, but so are the costs.
Maybe managers could pitch the idea to their contacts and e.g. encourage them to run a parallel campaign here in addition to bitcointalk.

As for the rates, it's funny how all the highest-paid campaigns are run by icopress, he must some good negotiation skills.

[Yamane_Keto]

Not everyone follows the discussions on every page, but what is required is the main page, where the list must be updated on a daily or weekly basis, so there is no problem with the discussions there, but there is nothing wrong with a separate topic about them, as the experience of signature campaigns here is relatively recent, and I think that a month from now, the evaluation stage will be whether Advertising in ALTT is valuable and will the campaigns continue or stop?

[SamReomo]

I want to hear from other members what type of changes and improvements they want to see in altcoinstalks forum campaigns.

I think probably the best thing these signature campaigns can do is to increase the number of paid posts from 30 to 50 or 60.

When they increase the number of paid posts then users who consistently make 30 posts a week will try their best to make 50 posts or week in order to get a little higher payment.

When users post more on daily basis that will somehow increase the traffic of this forum, and when new users who are interested in Bitcoin or mixers find out this forum then they will also continue to be active here.

That way those users who really want to use mixers and the ones which mixers want as well will visit this forum and if they see more activity here then they might use the mixing services that are advertising here instead of finding those on Bitcointalk or somewhere else.

[PX-Z]

I want to hear from other members what type of changes and improvements they want to see in altcoinstalks forum campaigns.

I think probably the best thing these signature campaigns can do is to increase the number of paid posts from 30 to 50 or 60.

When they increase the number of paid posts then users who consistently make 30 posts a week will try their best to make 50 posts or week in order to get a little higher payment.

That's the best suggestion if the signature manager wants to spam the forum. 25 paid posts a week is enough but because of lower rates they make it to 30 and its reasonable.
With that kind of suggestion, budget is needed to take in consideration too. If majority wants improvement, then being active here with 2-4 posts a day is enough to make this forum improve. Forum improvements won't happen 2-3 months. It should be at least 6 months of comparison of the old stats, even in 2 months people see improvements.

Later on i will give stats of forum's activity, karma, posting, etc. with the one i'm developing in connection of the telegram bot.

[SamReomo]

That's the best suggestion if the signature manager wants to spam the forum. 25 paid posts a week is enough but because of lower rates they make it to 30 and its reasonable.
With that kind of suggestion, budget is needed to take in consideration too. If majority wants improvement, then being active here with 2-4 posts a day is enough to make this forum improve. Forum improvements won't happen 2-3 months. It should be at least 6 months of comparison of the old stats, even in 2 months people see improvements.

Later on i will give stats of forum's activity, karma, posting, etc. with the one i'm developing in connection of the telegram bot.

Well, that's what you think but that's not what I was thinking when I created that post of mine. I think you still don't understand the managers that we have on this forum. They are professional campaign managers because they have been managing so many campaigns on Bitcointalk, and that's why it's not hard for them to check the members who make spamming posts and the members who make constructive posts. So spamming will never be an issue as far as I understand.

The current pay rates are okay in my mind because the traffic on this forum is pretty low as compare to Bitcointalk and most people still don't know the name of this forum to be honest. It'll take sometime before we see others noticing this forum but until then I believe such rates are not bad at all. I think I posted a valid opinion as we all know the more posts a forum gets the higher will be its chance to rank up on search engines like Google, Bing and others.

This forum is already indexed on Google and huge community of the Bitcointalk is present on this forum who don't only make good posts but they also know how to make constructive and valuable posts. Such users can help this forum to grow and if the manager somehow increase the number of paid posts then such users also get motivated to make even more posts on this forum. That will help this forum to rank up faster on search engines and other crypto communities will also start talking about it in their discussions, and the ones who make best crypto forum lists will include this one in the lists when they hear about this forum and visit it.

I truly appreciate you for that amazing Telegram bot that you have made and I'm also a very active user of that bot and I hope to see the program that you're making which will show the stats of the forum. Let's see how improved stats we see once you introduce that program.

[yhiaali3]

That's the best suggestion if the signature manager wants to spam the forum. 25 paid posts a week is enough but because of lower rates they make it to 30 and its reasonable.
With that kind of suggestion, budget is needed to take in consideration too. If majority wants improvement, then being active here with 2-4 posts a day is enough to make this forum improve. Forum improvements won't happen 2-3 months. It should be at least 6 months of comparison of the old stats, even in 2 months people see improvements.

I also agree with you, increasing paid posts to 50 or 60 per week will lead to complete chaos and everyone will try to write to increase their weekly payment.

I expect that the quality of posts will decrease in this case because it is difficult to write 50 or 60 high-quality posts per week. Maybe some people are able to write 8-10 high-quality posts on a daily basis, but the majority will not have the ability, but they will write to get paid.

Campaign managers will not be able to monitor all this huge number of posts. For example, in my campaign there are 55 participants. If each of them writes 60 posts per week, this equals 3,300 posts!!! How can a campaign manager check all this huge number on a weekly basis?!!

[dkbit98]

I think probably the best thing these signature campaigns can do is to increase the number of paid posts from 30 to 50 or 60.

This is worst idea ever
Only result from this would be increase of spam and worthless junk posts.
There is not enough discussions to pay for that, and I would reduce number of posts from 30 to 20 or 25 any slightly increase payrate.

[BitMaxz]

I think probably the best thing these signature campaigns can do is to increase the number of paid posts from 30 to 50 or 60.

This is worst idea ever
Only result from this would be increase of spam and worthless junk posts.
There is not enough discussions to pay for that, and I would reduce number of posts from 30 to 20 or 25 any slightly increase payrate.

The forum is pretty new adding more paid posts could lead to spam it would surely be hated by Google and other SERPs.

If the forum needs more traffic I think the admin should improve the forum's SEO performance look at Google Insight there are many things the forum should fix the first one is the forum speed performance this is one of the important things in SEO.
I see drops in traffic after January according to similarweb I don't know what the cause but my guess is it is due to performance issues.

[milewilda]

I think probably the best thing these signature campaigns can do is to increase the number of paid posts from 30 to 50 or 60.

This is worst idea ever
Only result from this would be increase of spam and worthless junk posts.
There is not enough discussions to pay for that, and I would reduce number of posts from 30 to 20 or 25 any slightly increase payrate.

The current post counts is playing in between 25-30 as of this moment on which i would say that it would be understandable that those campaigns would be needing up
some more exposure but since this forum isnt really that still having some good crypto traffic then its expected that pay would be less but honestly
i dont really remove out that possibilities that this one could also becoming big, it would really be that just depending on the recognition of the community
but well this isnt something that could be controlled.

[Yamane_Keto]

I want to hear from other members what type of changes and improvements they want to see in altcoinstalks forum campaigns.

I think probably the best thing these signature campaigns can do is to increase the number of paid posts from 30 to 50 or 60.

If signature campaigns make the average weekly posts 30, you will find that most members will make 20 to 40 posts. If the same campaign increases it to 50, you will find that the average has shifted to 30 to 60.  the higher number of paid posts will force more to post, but it is difficult to do weekly 50 High quality posts, many of your posts will turn into a spam.
25 posts as a maximum is a good limit, and I don’t know why 30 is the average here.

[Don Pedro Dinero]

Currently, the forum impressions are not as high as the other forum and I don't think we will see an increase in payment rates maybe after 2 or 3 months if we see many people joining here on the forum and get huge impressions we might see rates increase.
Don't forget altcoin season is coming I think after a few months or maybe next year but for now it's too vague to see payment rates increase soon unless they force people to make high-quality posts.

The fact that a couple of campaigns have been paused does not help either. In the medium to long term, if the traffic and quality of the forum continues to increase, if more and more businesses want to advertise here, we may see a rise in rates, but not now, as you say. And I wouldn't expect huge increases when that happens either, maybe a few tens of dollars a week but not much more. It will take years to reach the rates paid by BTT mixers if everything goes well, I think.

[pawel7777]

I think probably the best thing these signature campaigns can do is to increase the number of paid posts from 30 to 50 or 60.

This is worst idea ever
Only result from this would be increase of spam and worthless junk posts.
There is not enough discussions to pay for that, and I would reduce number of posts from 30 to 20 or 25 any slightly increase payrate.

You're probably right, but increasing the number of max paid posts + managers actively kicking out spammers could still work.
But 60 is just too high, no "natural" poster would be posting that many posts, so it's asking for trouble. If I were a service operator advertising via signature campaigns, I'd definitely prefer to hire 3 people posting 20 posts/week rather than 1 person posting 60 posts.