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Crypto Discussion Forum => Forum related => Topic started by: Crypto Library on April 08, 2024, 08:54:06 PM
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I don't know if I repeating the question if ask before here.
I just wanna know that is it possible to do check the user avatar and signature wearing log?
It can be any tools or anything added up on the forum what can show user's signature logs? I can be plus point for the campaign managers to monitoring his campaign.
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I don't know if I repeating the question if ask before here.
I just wanna know that is it possible to do check the user avatar and signature wearing log?
I never saw this was possible in other forums and it should not be any different here, but why would you need such thing?
Scraping and archiving all this data from profiles would take serious time and space, and members are changing signatures and profile images all the time.
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I don't know if I repeating the question if ask before here.
I just wanna know that is it possible to do check the user avatar and signature wearing log?
I never saw this was possible in other forums and it should not be any different here, but why would you need such thing?
Scraping and archiving all this data from profiles would take serious time and space, and members are changing signatures and profile images all the time.
I think PX-Z might be scraping this data, or maybe he can start doing so.
I don't see much use for this kind of data. Maybe for campaign managers? But even for them, i don't see much users cheating (like changing signature/avatar during campaign and trying to get paid)
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I don't see much use for this kind of data. Maybe for campaign managers? But even for them, i don't see much users cheating (like changing signature/avatar during campaign and trying to get paid)
As Bitmover said, this is not a pressing issue to the community. If such tool exists, it will be of more help to campaign managers and the number of campaigns and campaign participants is not very large that it will become untrackable by the manager. In the other forum, a project hired upto 100 participants and still track them. The case of cheating by swapping signature doesn't happen often. All through my stay in the other forum, I think it happened just twice. To me, removing and wearing signature here is not an easy task, although nothing is difficult for a cheat.
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I don't expect this to be possible, I don't know if this is available in the admin logs either because I expect it requires special tools.
But why would this be important to campaign managers? I mean what would campaign managers gain from tracking a user's avatar history and signature wear history? This will be an additional burden on them and will not be of much benefit, I think.
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I didn't scrape this data but i can. Although yes, this will eat much storage but its feasible. If campaign manager/s somewhat need it.
But with the help of the community, reporting it to the manager will probably help just like what others do in bitcointalk, screenshots will help.
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Yes, I believe it's possible to do and if you read the above comment of PX-Z then you can see that he's able to do that. But, I don't think that there is any need of such type of scrapping but if some managers find it useful then I'm very sure that PX-Z is the one who could help with such logs.
He has already made some good tools for this forum and for Bitcointalk that many of us find helpful, and I'm very sure if some managers ask for such tool then he may make that for them without any hesitation.
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I didn't scrape this data but i can. Although yes, this will eat much storage but its feasible. If campaign manager/s somewhat need it.
But with the help of the community, reporting it to the manager will probably help just like what others do in bitcointalk, screenshots will help.
If I am not wrong Loycev offered such services to the campaign managers in BTT to find the cheaters who is abusing the campaigns by switching codes on the post counting day and he offered it for a paid subscription that cheaters get caught. So you can try to offer the same and managers will love to such and will not encourage abusers to take part in their campaign.
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Right now there is no tool for that (I don't know if the forum software comes with some kind of default tool for this purpose or if some script can be loaded). But I guess @PX-Z could do something if he could. If he needed any kind of special permission to access the logs, he would simply have to talk to the administrator. In these cases, before starting to work on a new tool, it is best to ask the administrator if something is already available.
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If there were more campaigns and competition between payrates, there might be a use for this tool. I don't really think anyone is going to risk their spot in a campaign at this point though.
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If there were more campaigns and competition between payrates, there might be a use for this tool. I don't really think anyone is going to risk their spot in a campaign at this point though.
I agree. We are a very small community with very few active campaigns
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Based on my experience, users/participants of a signature campaign are quite proactive in reporting a cheater in a campaign that they're participating in. At least I remember one case where a forum member reported another member changing his signature but claimed they didn't do that. Cases like this one are pretty rare though, and judging from how most campaign managers conduct their campaign on Bitcointalk, they may not feel the urgency to have a tool like this. If there are plans to make one and integrate it into this forum, maybe we can shorten the logs to 7-8 days so the resources to manage it are not that big.
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Based on my experience, users/participants of a signature campaign are quite proactive in reporting a cheater in a campaign that they're participating in. At least I remember one case where a forum member reported another member changing his signature but claimed they didn't do that. Cases like this one are pretty rare though, and judging from how most campaign managers conduct their campaign on Bitcointalk, they may not feel the urgency to have a tool like this. If there are plans to make one and integrate it into this forum, maybe we can shorten the logs to 7-8 days so the resources to manage it are not that big.
If a user changes their signature and avatar while participating in another campaign, it's as easy as taking a screenshot of that user's last post and sending it to the campaign manager, and if there are several users who send screenshots better, that will dispel any type of doubt. It would be much easier to use a log where the campaign manager could compare all the users enrolled in their campaigns (something that would increase the load on the server even minimally, which worries the administrator), but at the moment we do not have that tool.
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I don't know if I repeating the question if ask before here.
I just wanna know that is it possible to do check the user avatar and signature wearing log?
It can be any tools or anything added up on the forum what can show user's signature logs? I can be plus point for the campaign managers to monitoring his campaign.
Well, this a completely new idea, as I personally have never come across or heard of any of such tools, even in the other forums that I am a user of.
I agree though, and I also think it will be a very helpful tool for campaign managers, as it will help them to monitor a user and see or when the user changed his or her signature, such a tool can be used to catch signature campaign cheaters easily, those who participate in two different campaigns at the same time and switch signatures at the end of each campaign quota so as to quality for payment.
If it's possible, I believe this is a tool any user can build for the community, personally, I don't have any experience with coding, I would have loved to devote myself to making sure such tool is built and made available for the forums to use.
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a telegram bot might be able to do that but the campaigns must require participants to activate the telegram bot which is an addition to what participants will do. that bot will check everynow and then for the avatar and the siggy and in case they remove it then the bot will log it that the user for a time being had removed them.
a telegram coder i guess is needed for it. there is telegram notifier in the forum. i think the campaign can contact that coder to make something like this for the campaign.
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Throughout the years of signature campaigns in BTT, one case was recorded of a user who joined two signature campaigns and changed the signature between them, and even this case was discovered quickly. Therefore, compared to the resources and effort expended to verify the signature with the possibility of such fraud occurring, the demand for such services will be small.
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Throughout the years of signature campaigns in BTT, one case was recorded of a user who joined two signature campaigns and changed the signature between them, and even this case was discovered quickly. Therefore, compared to the resources and effort expended to verify the signature with the possibility of such fraud occurring, the demand for such services will be small.
Yes, that's true, I was also present when that case took place, and if I'm not wrong then the guy was in two campaigns, one was managed by Royse and other was managed by Hhampuz. The guy took advantage of the system and got lucky for a week or two before he was caught by a member.
It's not possible for someone to do such kind of fraud, and even if someone gets success in doing such thing for sometime, the end result for that member won't be good. I agree that there is not going to be much demand for a service like this because no one really wants to put their time in something like that.
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Well, this a completely new idea, as I personally have never come across or heard of any of such tools, even in the other forums that I am a user of.
LoyceV created a similar tool[1] in Bitcointalk - but from the replies I have read so far it seems like only a handful of users are aware of this tool. Hhampuz is currently using it to monitor the signatures of his campaign participants.
[1] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5466773.0
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Throughout the years of signature campaigns in BTT, one case was recorded of a user who joined two signature campaigns and changed the signature between them, and even this case was discovered quickly. Therefore, compared to the resources and effort expended to verify the signature with the possibility of such fraud occurring, the demand for such services will be small.
I don't get how someone would risk an account to get 1 or 2 weeks of extra income lol
People think so small...
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I don't know if I repeating the question if ask before here.
I just wanna know that is it possible to do check the user avatar and signature wearing log?
I never saw this was possible in other forums and it should not be any different here, but why would you need such thing?
Scraping and archiving all this data from profiles would take serious time and space, and members are changing signatures and profile images all the time.
I think it will help the campaign manager to know if the participants remove the signature and the avatar in the week when still in the campaign. I think is possible because I have seen in other forum and campaign managers warned their participants that in the process they are staying in the campaign, they don't have to change the avatar and signature. And I used to wonder if the person changed it and wear.ir instantly would they know. So what Crypto Library said just reminded me to that. Though I might be wrong.
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Well, this a completely new idea, as I personally have never come across or heard of any of such tools, even in the other forums that I am a user of.
LoyceV created a similar tool[1] in Bitcointalk - but from the replies I have read so far it seems like only a handful of users are aware of this tool. Hhampuz is currently using it to monitor the signatures of his campaign participants.
[1] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5466773.0
I checked the thread but it only shows the current signature of the users, it's not like a log where you can see the changes if user signature space. But good idea, i can do something like that in the future.
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I never saw this was possible in other forums and it should not be any different here, but why would you need such thing?
Scraping and archiving all this data from profiles would take serious time and space, and members are changing signatures and profile images all the time.
Maybe because he wanted to confirm that the participants of his campaign are wearing the avatar and signature all the time, and they are not changing the avatar and signature half a week and wearing another, as many members have practiced this before and many succeed to get payment as well, even some get paid for like 2 to 4 weeks as well.
Sometimes managers are not so active that they keep track of all the participants manually and thus this is where such tools fits in, But To be honest, I assumed managers already have such tool as how they can be keeping track that if I wear the signature and avatar whole week or not, but I assume they are checking it manually like once caught you are obviously not be able to join any campaign again.
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Maybe because he wanted to confirm that the participants of his campaign are wearing the avatar and signature all the time, and they are not changing the avatar and signature half a week and wearing another, as many members have practiced this before and many succeed to get payment as well, even some get paid for like 2 to 4 weeks as well.
Sometimes managers are not so active that they keep track of all the participants manually and thus this is where such tools fits in, But To be honest, I assumed managers already have such tool as how they can be keeping track that if I wear the signature and avatar whole week or not, but I assume they are checking it manually like once caught you are obviously not be able to join any campaign again.
Changes made by users to profiles are stored in a log, at least I think so. I don't know if the administrator will be able to give access (even partially) to those in charge so that they have some control over which users change their signature and avatar for a few days, something I have not seen so far in this forum. In any case, it is best for managers to make a suggestion if they are interested in having more information and if they do not have tools that can do the job.
@PX-Z has said that he will do something in the future about this, let's wait to see what the administrator says and we will have clearer ideas.
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Changes made by users to profiles are stored in a log, at least I think so. I don't know if the administrator will be able to give access (even partially) to those in charge so that they have some control over which users change their signature and avatar for a few days, something I have not seen so far in this forum. In any case, it is best for managers to make a suggestion if they are interested in having more information and if they do not have tools that can do the job.
@PX-Z has said that he will do something in the future about this, let's wait to see what the administrator says and we will have clearer ideas.
You are right, the log is there but that's only for admin as you aforementioned but on BTT members have made such tool to keep track of the log system and it has slipped from my mind thanks for bringing it in front of my eyes. Well, many members are still abled to scam mangers by wearing two signatures at a single time and being able to get payment of two campaigns. That's awesome and shit both at the moment hehe.
Well, I know no such case has been recorded here, and thanks for providing the information about PX-Z's contribution. He/she is doing great work, I am glad we have such useful members here who are dedicating there time to the forum, he is also very active on BTT and contributed there not at a big level as here but still contribution is a contribution.
To be honest I am motivated by his actions a lot and planned to learn some relevant skills but before i have to complete some things than I will invest my time on this skill.