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[babo]

Can anyone tell me how is Mixtum mixer doing when compared with Unijoin mixer, and are there any important advantages?
I think that Unijoin has lower mixing fees and minimum withdrawable bitcoin is 0.003 BTC, that is less than Mixtum.

The difference is in the way of mixing the coins. In short:
Mixtum sends coins that come from exchanges through the Jambler network of investors. This method offers a fairly high degree of privacy and "clean" coins.
Unijoin uses the coinjoin method, which is good, especially for anonymity, but cannot guarantee a high level of "clean" coins.

About fees, there are no minimum withdrawable amounts, but a minimum deposit that will be recognized by the service. So, for example, the minimum deposit on Mixtum is 0.003 BTC, while the minimum deposit on Unijoin is 0.001 BTC

I have put all the most important information about each mixer in this thread, it is much easier to review and compare.
LIST - Bitcoin mixers & Tumbler services! ✅✅

coinjoin is a bit random from this point of view
you could get a bad tx with suspicious or stolen funds and in that case what do you say?
I used coinjoin, why did you use coinjoin?
I think it has its constant danger

It's true that it can also happen with Jambler but in my opinion the % of it happening is lower

[MrSpasybo]

coinjoin is a bit random from this point of view
you could get a bad tx with suspicious or stolen funds and in that case what do you say?
I used coinjoin, why did you use coinjoin?
I think it has its constant danger

It's true that it can also happen with Jambler but in my opinion the % of it happening is lower

I prefer to use MixTum because I don't want to have any problems with any "dirty" BTC. Jambler can guarantee this and give me peace of mind when moving my BTC to CEX for future trading. Jambler sets itself apart by ensuring users receive "clean" coins: Upon entering the platform, all BTC goes through a rigorous blockchain check. This verification process guarantees the legitimacy of BTC. Additionally, Jambler sources BTC directly from miners and CEX traders. We can can be confident in using MixTum's services 

[Lucius]

I prefer to use MixTum because I don't want to have any problems with any "dirty" BTC.
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Dirty or tainted BTC is something invented by those who have a big problem with the fact that they have no control over it. For me, this is not only stupid, but also potentially dangerous in the long term, considering that each of us has at least part of the coins that were once used in some transaction that had elements of criminal activity.

When we think about it, does anyone know where all the bills or coins we have in our wallets were? Some may have been used to sell drugs, some to smuggle people or weapons, and yet no one will come and say that these bills are dirty and should be confiscated.

Mixers should therefore primarily serve the purpose of privacy protection, and not some kind of mixing between dirty and clean coins.

[MrSpasybo]

Dirty or tainted BTC is something invented by those who have a big problem with the fact that they have no control over it. For me, this is not only stupid, but also potentially dangerous in the long term, considering that each of us has at least part of the coins that were once used in some transaction that had elements of criminal activity.

When we think about it, does anyone know where all the bills or coins we have in our wallets were? Some may have been used to sell drugs, some to smuggle people or weapons, and yet no one will come and say that these bills are dirty and should be confiscated.

Mixers should therefore primarily serve the purpose of privacy protection, and not some kind of mixing between dirty and clean coins.

While we may not care about the cleanliness of BTC, governments and many exchanges may be concerned and evaluate each satoshi deposited on CEXs. To ensure that BTC and crypto are not abused by criminals, CEXs are also cooperating with governments to detect behavior, freeze and provide information related to criminals.

I have no problem with identity, but I store my crypto assets on CEXs and I'm afraid that my account will be frozen if some of my satoshi come from a "dirty" source. I use MixTum to ensure that the BTC I send to CEXs is always rated as clean as possible 

[Lucius]

~snip~
I have no problem with identity, but I store my crypto assets on CEXs and I'm afraid that my account will be frozen if some of my satoshi come from a "dirty" source. I use MixTum to ensure that the BTC I send to CEXs is always rated as clean as possible 

I can only assume that you have your own reasons for such a storage method, because CEXs should not be wallets, and the old saying goes "not your keys, not your coins". I only believe in airgapped wallets and safely saved backups, everything else is a risk I don't want to accept.

[MrSpasybo]

I can only assume that you have your own reasons for such a storage method, because CEXs should not be wallets, and the old saying goes "not your keys, not your coins". I only believe in airgapped wallets and safely saved backups, everything else is a risk I don't want to accept.

Yeah, I understand it. But I store a portion of my crypto assets on CEXs, and I need to use CEXs to sell USDT for fiat currency and pay for real-life bills. OTC is also an option, but they usually don't trade assets under $100, which is not suitable for me and has higher risks than P2P on CEXs. This makes me more concerned about the cleanliness of the crypto I send to my CEX accounts. For now, with BTC, I have found a solution to my needs at MixTum ^^

[notblox1]

Mixtum sends coins that come from exchanges through the Jambler network of investors. This method offers a fairly high degree of privacy and "clean" coins.
Unijoin uses the coinjoin method, which is good, especially for anonymity, but cannot guarantee a high level of "clean" coins.

Are you claiming there is actual guarantee for this when using Mixtum, and there is no such thing for Unijon?
I never had problems with any coins that came from Unijon service and I use it for privacy, not to make my coins any cleaner.

[examplens]

Are you claiming there is actual guarantee for this when using Mixtum, and there is no such thing for Unijon?
I never had problems with any coins that came from Unijon service and I use it for privacy, not to make my coins any cleaner.

I will repeat with a bit more details.
Mixtum as a partner receives coins from Jambler. Jambler has strict control of Bitcoins that are mixed and come from investors, if they do not meet the expected "cleanliness" level, they are returned to the investor. So there is a serious analysis before the coins are sent to their mixing system.
Unijoin (like most other non-Jambler mixers) does not have this kind of control over every coin that comes into the network.

That's the difference in theory. To prove this theory, at least 30 transactions should be done on each mixer and then compare the analyses.
As with other things, no one can guarantee anything, but a better understanding of the process will definitely help.

[dkbit98]

Mixtum is doing a fine mixing job, but I don't like people using this term ''dirty'' and ''clean'' coins, because it's all based on some centralized closed source list that is storing random addresses and making wild assumptions.

It is really interesting that only with government magic powers coins can become ''clean'' and sold after getting confiscated.
Regular people doing less than this are marked as criminals by the same government 
This makes you think who the real criminals are.

[babo]

Mixtum is doing a fine mixing job, but I don't like people using this term ''dirty'' and ''clean'' coins, because it's all based on some centralized closed source list that is storing random addresses and making wild assumptions.

It is really interesting that only with government magic powers coins can become ''clean'' and sold after getting confiscated.
Regular people doing less than this are marked as criminals by the same government 
This makes you think who the real criminals are.

governments are the criminals, so obvious, they are the best armed criminals and accepted by everyone as protectors, basically
those who sell their freedom for a modicum of security deserve neither freedom nor security, because this is what we do today

[bitmover]

Mixtum is doing a fine mixing job, but I don't like people using this term ''dirty'' and ''clean'' coins, because it's all based on some centralized closed source list that is storing random addresses and making wild assumptions.

I don't like these terms either.

Sometimes I just want to break the link between the coins I have and my online identity.

For example, I want to send a coin to a cex or to someone who I don't want them to know I am bitmover and I got those coins in this forum.

There is no "dirty" to clean up. I just want other coins.

[MrSpasybo]

Mixtum is doing a fine mixing job, but I don't like people using this term ''dirty'' and ''clean'' coins, because it's all based on some centralized closed source list that is storing random addresses and making wild assumptions.

It is really interesting that only with government magic powers coins can become ''clean'' and sold after getting confiscated.
Regular people doing less than this are marked as criminals by the same government 
This makes you think who the real criminals are.

"Dirty" coins are defined as coins that are associated with illegal activities according to the law. When they are confiscated by the government, they are stored by the government, are the property of the state, and they will naturally become legal. Therefore, they can be considered clean when sold on the OTC without any charges, the proceeds will be used for good purposes such as paying salaries for the administrative apparatus or building the country, or at least they want us to believe that.

In any case, MixTum does not serve governments because the maximum amount per Mix is   only 50 BTC 

[babo]

Guys, let's not get hung up on the terms, in the end they are a way to understand what we're talking about
I understand very well that from a philosophical and theoretical point of view you don't like them but they are useful for us to understand more simply

one of the bullshit things we've seen is raging against the terms "master" and "slave" in IT, I don't want it to be repeated here too

[MrSpasybo]

Guys, let's not get hung up on the terms, in the end they are a way to understand what we're talking about
I understand very well that from a philosophical and theoretical point of view you don't like them but they are useful for us to understand more simply

one of the bullshit things we've seen is raging against the terms "master" and "slave" in IT, I don't want it to be repeated here too

Yeah, I agree. Ultimately, each user has their own purpose for using MixTum: security and anonymity.

From my experience so far, I know that MixTum ensures security because it provides BTC without any legal hassles. As I've shared before, I don't really have a big need for anonymity. I only use MixTum Clearnet and have never touched Tor onion link.

[Etranger]

As I've shared before, I don't really have a big need for anonymity.

This need may arise completely suddenly, so it makes sense to be familiar with the tools in advance that allow you to gain this anonymity. Or rather, return it. After all, anonymity in Bitcoin was initially something taken for granted. This was the norm, not a privilege. Nowadays it is almost becoming a luxury, and only tools like MixTum or UniJoin allow you to have it.