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Title: Will Ethereum (ETH) hold its price?
Post by: altstothemoon on February 26, 2020, 12:14:10 AM
A price of $250 has been a support line for ETH for a couple of times, will it hold this time? A fall from this support level will likely dip into the $220 price range.

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Title: Re: Will Ethereum (ETH) hold its price?
Post by: Uina on February 26, 2020, 05:45:36 PM
Unfortunately, it had gone down less than the support rate of $250 as it is under $223 as of the moment. I hope it won't go less than $200 as it is really a pity for the Ethereum team if it happens again. I am not really sure what's going on and what's affecting ETH these days and other crypto and coins but hope they are able to stay and rise soon.
Title: Re: Will Ethereum (ETH) hold its price?
Post by: DogeTalk on February 27, 2020, 04:51:05 PM
for the time being my observation eth will fall to its weakest point at $ 200 and if bullish occurs it will reach above $ 300. The increase in eth prices for now can not be said to be high with high volume and interest
Title: Re: Will Ethereum (ETH) hold its price?
Post by: tervel on February 29, 2020, 04:15:13 PM
Currently, Ethereum is trading down at its current price of $223, a consequence of the drop the Bitcoin  that led the market to plummet. Bitcoin is currently in firm control of Ethereum’s price action.
Title: Re: Will Ethereum (ETH) hold its price?
Post by: 212 on March 02, 2020, 08:12:58 AM
Ethereum will still remain above the $200 price. This year 2020 was a good year and I think it could encourage many people to invest. Bitcoin is causing the price of Ethereum to keep falling. Bitcoin To date I think it is very good because it is not too far downhill. Even Bitcoin when the price drops can come back again. And such events are also in nature by Ethereum. And my hope that Ethereum can give you a very nice surprise.
Title: Re: Will Ethereum (ETH) hold its price?
Post by: Master107 on March 04, 2020, 06:25:09 AM
If you see eth will rapidly grow, I think this is the perfect time for you to buy more and hold eth until the right season of bull  run. You can have profit when the harvest come.
Title: Re: Will Ethereum (ETH) hold its price?
Post by: trauchot on March 04, 2020, 08:51:58 AM
It is still very difficult to understand what will happen to the ethereum price, but most likely the ethereum price will stand still on the one place for some time and before bitcoin halving, there will most likely be a bitcoin price pump, and at the same time ethereum will also begin to grow in price.
Title: Re: Will Ethereum (ETH) hold its price?
Post by: tonymillions84 on March 24, 2020, 04:59:43 PM
i will love to see ethereum maintain a steady and regular price range of 300-350usd. minimum. it is unfair and unacceptable to say that the second largest cryptocurrency with over 2 billion market cap is selling below 200. XRP, we all know is centralized and the price can be controlled. but ethereum should not surffer such faith.
Title: Re: Will Ethereum (ETH) hold its price?
Post by: Jaguar on March 25, 2020, 12:29:42 PM
When eth hold the price it will become stable.
Stable coin will remain to its value whatever happens in market. It is not interesting anymore because there's nothing to expect more. Everything is program and controllable and possible it will become centralized.
Title: Re: Will Ethereum (ETH) hold its price?
Post by: Malam90 on March 25, 2020, 01:51:17 PM
Unfortunately Ethereum didn't able to hold its support price level $250 for the effect of Corona Virus but I believe this support level of price  is possible to cross with in the shortest possible time after the effect of Corona Virus in the world. We need to wait with patience and pray for the whole human being for their safety.
Title: Re: Will Ethereum (ETH) hold its price?
Post by: Octoalts on March 26, 2020, 02:48:05 PM
The price of Ethereum follows the price of Bitcoin and other coins, I can't say Ethereum will be able to survive if the price of Bitcoin goes down.  And this we can already see, that the Ethereum price has shown a graph of decline.  I also believe this is the impact of the current global economic downturn.
Title: Re: Will Ethereum (ETH) hold its price?
Post by: Istiak on March 26, 2020, 04:09:19 PM
If BTC drops other cryptos will drop too. We can say this from historical data. Every time the BTC market crash it takes down the whole crypto market with it. BTC is going up right now so I think there is nothing to worry about and ETH will also show some good movements. Also, Ethereum 2.0 will also make an impact on the ETH price.
Title: Re: Will Ethereum (ETH) hold its price?
Post by: abc123 on May 21, 2020, 09:26:28 AM
Currently the price of ethereum is $209.also Now I am holding my eth because past week bitcoin halving is ended so I hope the price of ethereum will recover again.
Title: Re: Will Ethereum (ETH) hold its price?
Post by: therozaq on May 21, 2020, 04:31:09 PM
A price of $250 has been a support line for ETH for a couple of times, will it hold this time? A fall from this support level will likely dip into the $220 price range.

(https://i.imgur.com/E9VLvYi.jpg)

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For now I see ethereum at $215 , It is down. But I think ethereum will rise and maybe We will see ethereum at $300 at the end this year. Because I see bitcoin is  rising now.
Title: Re: Will Ethereum (ETH) hold its price?
Post by: vicoma4real on May 22, 2020, 01:32:20 AM
Ethreum has not been performing well based on speculations and the price is somehow disappointing. Either it holds its price or not, it will be good to protect our asset from a sudden crash, KoinPro has been doing well in this regard
Title: Re: Will Ethereum (ETH) hold its price?
Post by: blue on June 30, 2020, 10:14:20 AM
At the past four weeks ethereum touched $250 but instantly it was dropped then it maintained $240 price range but today ethereum price is almost $220 ethereum didn't break $250 support so coming days ethereum price may drop again but this year ethereum will recover again.
Title: Re: Will Ethereum (ETH) hold its price?
Post by: Bobcrypto on June 30, 2020, 12:17:17 PM
I think Ethereum can not sustain a certain price. If you are a good follower of Ethereum market prices, you understand that ether has never at any time resisted or maintain a consistent price hight for up to one week. In the last few days, Ethereum touched $250, and now back to below $230 as at the time of writing this post. I think that there are some altcoins that has stronger resistance going to price deep than Ethereum. This is my opinion.
Title: Re: Will Ethereum (ETH) hold its price?
Post by: Tanimariya on July 01, 2020, 07:35:49 AM
You will get profit from your investment only when you invest and wait a long time. However, those who invested earlier this year have been much more profitable. Eth was priced at $ 120 earlier this year. And now it has risen to between $ 225 - $ 230. So I would say you don't have to lose if you invest in Eth. You can definitely invest.
Title: Re: Will Ethereum (ETH) hold its price?
Post by: KKH84 on July 01, 2020, 11:38:41 AM
I am sure the price of Ethereum will not fall below $ 200, it will hold above $ 200 (for the lowest price).  I think the Ethereum movement this month is perfectly normal, I hope that next month will be a little over $ 285, hopefully.
Title: Re: Will Ethereum (ETH) hold its price?
Post by: comer on July 02, 2020, 03:30:05 PM
Will $250 is still at range for ethereum. As long as it will not retrace to below $200 it will still hold it's current position. Am sure ethereum will go stronger this time. For the pass months the price for ethereum is not dropping drastically so I believe it just need a little push in order to go beyond $250 and reach the $300 price range.  We are on the 2nd half of the year and crypto currency is showing positive movement even we face serious problem of the pandemic but still crypto moves upward. It is a very good indication that there are still many people believing this currency. I hope after the pandemic price of coins will go up specially ethereum Ang Bitcoin.
Title: Re: Will Ethereum (ETH) hold its price?
Post by: Alcor on July 03, 2020, 05:38:46 AM
A price of $250 has been a support line for ETH for a couple of times, will it hold this time? A fall from this support level will likely dip into the $220 price range.

(https://i.imgur.com/E9VLvYi.jpg)

Remember you can always make profits, either way the market moves. You may open a long or short position on Ethereum ETH with leverage up to 50x on BBOD and with Zero Fees.
We see that so far the price of ethereum has really fallen a bit after Bitcoin and now is $ 229. However, after the introduction of improvements to Ethereum 2.0 in November, a thousand percent increase in the price of this coin is predicted. Therefore, we still need to wait a while and stock up on ethereum. The price of ethereum is sure to skyrocket.
Title: Re: Will Ethereum (ETH) hold its price?
Post by: Nostoman on July 04, 2020, 06:42:33 AM
I think it is possible to invest a lot in crypto currency during this worldwide epidemic. Especially investing in ETH can bring a lot of profit to people. With that profit, many can become the owner of millions of US dollars. You have to budget a lot for this. Who helped him become the owner of millions of US dollars. So I mean, investing in ETH is very profitable now.
Title: Re: Will Ethereum (ETH) hold its price?
Post by: abc123 on July 04, 2020, 10:34:27 AM
I think the Ethereum's present price is very best for long-term investments.This year the Ethereum 2.0 is coming and in last may bitcoin halving was ended .so I hope you can earn good profit in the future.
Title: Re: Will Ethereum (ETH) hold its price?
Post by: Coin63@ on July 04, 2020, 01:58:01 PM
Only for stabe coins that fixed its price in all time. But unstable coins price always increasing and decreasing its natural way. So Ethereum a stable coins never price bound in a fixed rate. Don't worry about price decline and don't happy again price pumping. All will happen in systematic process.
Title: Re: Will Ethereum (ETH) hold its price?
Post by: Delgboke on July 12, 2020, 06:58:28 AM
Sometimes we can't be 100% perfect sure of what Eth price could be next in the crypto market because how the price increases and as well decreases in the next hour you will see the price up again.
Title: Re: Will Ethereum (ETH) hold its price?
Post by: tinakoya on July 13, 2020, 04:51:46 AM
Ethereum price has been maintained fairly I must say, even regardless of the pandemic it continues to hold it's fort strong.  Yes crypt space can be unpredictable but with ETH 2.0 I think we are yet to see the value of this coin.
Title: Re: Will Ethereum (ETH) hold its price?
Post by: Muneeb22 on July 14, 2020, 04:46:15 AM
A price of $250 has been a support line for ETH for a couple of times, will it hold this time? A fall from this support level will likely dip into the $220 price range.

(https://i.imgur.com/E9VLvYi.jpg)

Remember you can always make profits, either way the market moves. You may open a long or short position on Ethereum ETH with leverage up to 50x on BBOD and with Zero Fees.

You analyse the market is good and now again the market is going to be high and this time market is in good position and it will touch the high at this time again and i hope that market soon the 300$ in just the two months.
Title: Re: Will Ethereum (ETH) hold its price?
Post by: Stgeorge on July 14, 2020, 07:37:09 AM
This price good for hold.because I think the value of ethereum will increase many times after the advent of  Ethereum 2.0.Many investors have expressed this opinion.so Iam already hold ethereum.
Title: Re: Will Ethereum (ETH) hold its price?
Post by: gourav787 on July 14, 2020, 11:33:23 AM
Unfortunately , Etherium again goes down and now tradable on $230 at this time . I see that Etherium tradable on $200-$250 From a longtime . I think Etherium again took bull run in future.
Title: Re: Will Ethereum (ETH) hold its price?
Post by: babu10 on July 17, 2020, 11:28:08 AM
Last 3/4 months ETH is continuing its price 200 to 245$ that is very surprising to everyone. Where BTC hit 10k$ ETH should atleast hit 350$ so that market may stable something. But sorrow that ETH market not hitting like we expected. But we can hope that last of this year it will hit atleast 500$ so that we may gainer.
Title: Re: Will Ethereum (ETH) hold its price?
Post by: Senin on July 22, 2020, 07:46:34 AM
I see no reason for ethereum to fall. On the contrary, the planned introduction of Ethereum 2.0 improvements to this coin should take it to a new level, which should also affect the price of ethereum upward. Hackers are now encouraged to attack this improvement for a reward, which indicates that testing is nearing completion.
Today the ethereum price has risen slightly to $ 244, which is a good sign.
Title: Re: Will Ethereum (ETH) hold its price?
Post by: Carry_Copper on July 22, 2020, 03:28:47 PM
A price of $250 has been a support line for ETH for a couple of times, will it hold this time? A fall from this support level will likely dip into the $220 price range.

(https://i.imgur.com/E9VLvYi.jpg)

Remember you can always make profits, either way the market moves. You may open a long or short position on Ethereum ETH with leverage up to 50x on BBOD and with Zero Fees.
In my opinion, ETH will rise up very soon, so it's time to hold :)
Title: Re: Will Ethereum (ETH) hold its price?
Post by: Cici Lee on July 23, 2020, 05:28:45 AM
MACD appears a second golden cross above zero axis, it seems accelerated expand with the volume.
Title: Re: Will Ethereum (ETH) hold its price?
Post by: Carry_Copper on July 25, 2020, 03:46:22 PM
MACD appears a second golden cross above zero axis, it seems accelerated expand with the volume.
So what do you think? Should we hold ETH at the moment or what?
Title: Re: Will Ethereum (ETH) hold its price?
Post by: Bobcrypto on July 25, 2020, 05:44:29 PM
Ethereum is a potential coin to hold for a long time, though it has been sloggish, I think ether can pull a surprise any day. Obviously Ethereum is a coin to hold, it all depends on every individual's strategies. For me, as a trader, I like selling when it hit my target price, precisely between 5% to 10% price increase.
Title: Re: Will Ethereum (ETH) hold its price?
Post by: comer on July 26, 2020, 04:07:37 PM
Ethereum has just touch the $300 so it's a lucky day to those who  invested in the past days. I would assume it will hold it's price since it just touches to this level and Bitcoin is moving same upward trend, if it continues to move it will not be surprised if we see ethereum break the $400 level. Many traders now are eyeing the movement of the top crypto currency since these are the coins that has a very huge amount of transaction in the market.
I am now seeing my portfolio increasing it's value. Hopefully it will continue to rise.
Title: Re: Will Ethereum (ETH) hold its price?
Post by: highnayem34 on July 26, 2020, 06:50:31 PM
I see no reason for ethereum to fall. On the contrary, the planned introduction of Ethereum 2.0 improvements to this coin should take it to a new level, which should also affect the price of ethereum upward. Hackers are now encouraged to attack this improvement for a reward, which indicates that testing is nearing completion.
Today the ethereum price has risen slightly to $ 244, which is a good sign.
You got the good sign. Ethereum already 300$ cross. It will soon be 600$ in 2 years.
Title: Re: Will Ethereum (ETH) hold its price?
Post by: Carry_Copper on July 28, 2020, 09:26:46 AM
I see no reason for ethereum to fall. On the contrary, the planned introduction of Ethereum 2.0 improvements to this coin should take it to a new level, which should also affect the price of ethereum upward. Hackers are now encouraged to attack this improvement for a reward, which indicates that testing is nearing completion.
Today the ethereum price has risen slightly to $ 244, which is a good sign.
You got the good sign. Ethereum already 300$ cross. It will soon be 600$ in 2 years.
Hope it's true. Well, we need to wait and hold, that's it :)
Title: Re: Will Ethereum (ETH) hold its price?
Post by: themeritedone on July 28, 2020, 11:10:54 AM
My personal feeling is that we are at the start of a bull run now and it's a good time to hold eth for the next couple of months
Title: Re: Will Ethereum (ETH) hold its price?
Post by: Fenix on July 31, 2020, 04:25:42 PM
I see no reason for ethereum to fall. On the contrary, the planned introduction of Ethereum 2.0 improvements to this coin should take it to a new level, which should also affect the price of ethereum upward. Hackers are now encouraged to attack this improvement for a reward, which indicates that testing is nearing completion.
Today the ethereum price has risen slightly to $ 244, which is a good sign.
You got the good sign. Ethereum already 300$ cross. It will soon be 600$ in 2 years.
In my opinion, ethereum could easily climb to $ 600 this year. Now the price of this coin is already 343 dollars. If in a week ethereum grew by one hundred dollars and two and a half hundred remained to the price of 600 dollars, then in five months we will be able to see the price of ethereum and one thousand dollars each. The main thing is that the expected improvements to this coin are successful.
Title: Re: Will Ethereum (ETH) hold its price?
Post by: syedrasool2011 on August 03, 2020, 01:18:53 PM
The 4th of august will be a make it or break it for ETH. When the launch of the testnet goes well the price could easily skyrocket. However, that also could cause a problem, because it would decrease the number of people that can afford the necessary 32ETH for staking.
Title: Re: Will Ethereum (ETH) hold its price?
Post by: gulsoom2020 on August 04, 2020, 11:29:35 AM
eth will pump more hold on 1000$ after 2020 end eth will touch 2000$
Title: Re: Will Ethereum (ETH) hold its price?
Post by: TERMINO on August 11, 2020, 06:50:18 AM
A price of $250 has been a support line for ETH for a couple of times, will it hold this time? A fall from this support level will likely dip into the $220 price range.

(https://i.imgur.com/E9VLvYi.jpg)

Remember you can always make profits, either way the market moves. You may open a long or short position on Ethereum ETH with leverage up to 50x on BBOD and with Zero Fees.
In my opinion, ETH will rise up very soon, so it's time to hold :)

Yes! Hols your Eth now is the right thing to do at the same time buy more will give you big profit once eth pump more. Although it is risky to buy now because it is possible that just while it could drop.
Title: Re: Will Ethereum (ETH) hold its price?
Post by: hushpupppy on August 13, 2020, 06:23:11 PM
No token can hodl its price in the crypto currency space anf this is one reason why we have the all time high prices of tokens and the all time low prices of token

Even during the bull run, there are alway prices correction
Title: Re: Will Ethereum (ETH) hold its price?
Post by: Tolyk on December 25, 2022, 02:08:45 PM
When the market recovery begins, the price of ether will rise to its limit, if we talk about that high price, whether it will hold. Of course, the ether has everything for this.
Title: Re: Will Ethereum (ETH) hold its price?
Post by: Doovla on September 24, 2023, 09:31:22 AM
It will go down considering the time of bear market situation that is long more than month now.Current price value is 1592$ and it is in red zone so it will slightly go below,speculations are that it will go low for the rest of the year like so,not so much down but it will go down for sure.Specially when it is red graphic chart,profits are not so much.
Title: Re: Will Ethereum (ETH) hold its price?
Post by: cryptoworld1 on September 26, 2023, 08:54:49 AM
That depends on crypto Market. The month of aguest is not good for crypto users because market has been crashed some issues binance in trouble sec cases .But Ethereum is good coin Our most recent Ethereum price forecast indicates that its value will increase by 6.31% and reach $1,687.74 by September 23, 2023. Our technical indicators signal about the Bearish Bullish 3% market sentiment on Ethereum, while the Fear & Greed Index is displaying a score of 47.Ethereum will go very high in future.

What's your opinion Ethereum hold its price or not.

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Title: Re: Will Ethereum (ETH) hold its price?
Post by: Doovla on September 26, 2023, 08:05:32 PM
Considering that for gas fee transactions are getting lower price wil be more stable and bigger at time by time and it depend from bullish market condition as long as market dominance getting more circulating from supply also.Earlier it was fix that payment for transaction were high for keeping interest for coin and get amount and value in circulation.So it is more realistic that it will go high for hold its price.
Title: Re: Will Ethereum (ETH) hold its price?
Post by: IvugeoEvolutionCoin on March 30, 2024, 11:48:18 PM
Considering that for gas fee transactions are getting lower price wil be more stable and bigger at time by time and it depend from bullish market condition as long as market dominance getting more circulating from supply also.Earlier it was fix that payment for transaction were high for keeping interest for coin and get amount and value in circulation.So it is more realistic that it will go high for hold its price.
Exactly, as long as there is no increase in transactions carried out using the Ethereum network, the gas fees that will be required will be very small and will not make it expensive. Meanwhile, the supply from Ethereum is already too much because the amount is unlimited. At least you have now made a lot of profit from holding Ethereum when the price is still cheap.
Title: Re: Will Ethereum (ETH) hold its price?
Post by: UNIVERSE on March 30, 2024, 11:55:46 PM
Considering that for gas fee transactions are getting lower price wil be more stable and bigger at time by time and it depend from bullish market condition as long as market dominance getting more circulating from supply also.Earlier it was fix that payment for transaction were high for keeping interest for coin and get amount and value in circulation.So it is more realistic that it will go high for hold its price.
Usually, Ethereum transfer fees will be directly proportional to the increase in the price of ETH itself, and also with the increase in transactions on the network. This time, even though the price of ETH has increased quite significantly, it turns out that the transfer fees are not as crazy as they used to be. Where in the past, more than hundreds of gadgets were achieved. but this time, the transfer fee is around 22 - 25 gwei.

However, we are still not at the peak of the bullish era, so there is a possibility that transfer fees will increase again in the future. Yes, just prepare yourself. If there were Ethereum-based tokens, it would be much better if they started transferring now. Don't be so late that the gas fee jumps so much.

Check regularly at https://etherscan.io/gastracker

Anyway, for this time, the ETH price is about $3,505.
And we are heading again to reach $4k and more again. But, this needs extra time because the market is likely more to side away, or willing to be dropped.
Title: Re: Will Ethereum (ETH) hold its price?
Post by: Doovla on March 31, 2024, 05:42:45 PM
Holding Ethereum in 2024 year is the best solution that can be make and to hold for it long term because of its circulating supply that go in green direction for more than 2 months now. By price Ethereum is big profit and price will not leave below 3200$ by most predictions out there. It will keep in growth and also be big price influnce by Bitcoin halving in April.
Title: Re: Will Ethereum (ETH) hold its price?
Post by: IvugeoEvolutionCoin on April 12, 2024, 11:36:32 PM
Holding Ethereum in 2024 year is the best solution that can be make and to hold for it long term because of its circulating supply that go in green direction for more than 2 months now. By price Ethereum is big profit and price will not leave below 3200$ by most predictions out there. It will keep in growth and also be big price influnce by Bitcoin halving in April.
If you hold Ethereum this year, you have to be careful because basically there is no guarantee that the Ethereum price will make a profit. As is currently happening, the price of Ethereum on exchanges has collapsed due to a decline in the price of Bitcoin.
Title: Re: Will Ethereum (ETH) hold its price?
Post by: bitterguy28 on April 18, 2024, 02:37:32 PM
A price of $250 has been a support line for ETH for a couple of times, will it hold this time? A fall from this support level will likely dip into the $220 price range.

(https://i.imgur.com/E9VLvYi.jpg)

Remember you can always make profits, either way the market moves. You may open a long or short position on Ethereum ETH with leverage up to 50x on BBOD and with Zero Fees.
I don't know why this thread is still being bumped when the topic was about for the last halving in 2020-21 , now that we are in another halving season maybe better this thread to be locked or need to create another similar question but different prices asking.
Title: Re: Will Ethereum (ETH) hold its price?
Post by: TopT3ns on April 21, 2024, 08:36:39 AM
I don't know why this thread is still being bumped when the topic was about for the last halving in 2020-21 , now that we are in another halving season maybe better this thread to be locked or need to create another similar question but different prices asking.
This thread shows that the difference in halving from year to year has very different prices, like last season's halving the price was still very cheap, while currently the price of this season's halving is very expensive, so maybe it would be better if this thread was still can be accessed.
Title: Re: Will Ethereum (ETH) hold its price?
Post by: bitterguy28 on April 21, 2024, 12:26:54 PM
I don't know why this thread is still being bumped when the topic was about for the last halving in 2020-21 , now that we are in another halving season maybe better this thread to be locked or need to create another similar question but different prices asking.
This thread shows that the difference in halving from year to year has very different prices, like last season's halving the price was still very cheap, while currently the price of this season's halving is very expensive, so maybe it would be better if this thread was still can be accessed.
but it is clear that this is not about comparison instead the question is directly to price holding of Ethereum from that very time in which shows from my quoted part

A price of $250 has been a support line for ETH for a couple of times, will it hold this time? A fall from this support level will likely dip into the $220 price range.

(https://i.imgur.com/E9VLvYi.jpg)

Remember you can always make profits, either way the market moves. You may open a long or short position on Ethereum ETH with leverage up to 50x on BBOD and with Zero Fees.

so for me its better to create another thread asking about this year or the next and close the old thread because that is not about how we can compare the holding of price of ethereum.
Title: Re: Will Ethereum (ETH) hold its price?
Post by: pacar_tiri on April 21, 2024, 05:07:51 PM
so for me its better to create another thread asking about this year or the next and close the old thread because that is not about how we can compare the holding of price of ethereum.
Exactly, Agree with what you said. When we say price comparisons between before the halving and after the halving, we need a thread that is used to discuss price movements like that.