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Learning & News => For Beginners => Basic questions about this forum => Topic started by: Findingnemo on April 26, 2024, 10:31:08 PM
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This thread isn't about what admin posted regarding how to get Karma.
Just to hear the opinions from the individuals about what they lookout for granting positive or Negative Karma. For example if you see a guide which could be helpful then you grant +1, when you see a reply that gives the actual answer for the query of topic starter and like that.
You can be specific cause this will be helpful for the forum members especially to newbies to understand when they will be awarded positive Karma and what they should do and don't.
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It is not that hard to understand how karma should be used.
I am giving positive karma when I see that member created interesting post with new information that engages more conversation with others.
Negatve karma are given by me for low quality content or when members are just using copied text from other sources.
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As other moderators said, karma is the same as giving a like to someone's post. This includes being informative, answering questions that you know which will be helpful not only to you but also to other user as well. If you like the post, simply click the + karma, there's no need to have a specific criteria. As long as it is not an abuse to the rules, you can give it to anyone that contributes to the forum.
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This thread isn't about what admin posted regarding how to get Karma.
Just to hear the opinions from the individuals about what they lookout for granting positive or Negative Karma. For example if you see a guide which could be helpful then you grant +1, when you see a reply that gives the actual answer for the query of topic starter and like that.
You can be specific cause this will be helpful for the forum members especially to newbies to understand when they will be awarded positive Karma and what they should do and don't.
You have started a good discussion, as awareness is also necessary for those who are eligible for giving karma, speaking of myself, I prefer to give karma to those who added information to my knowledge, but I also give karma to those who bring something unique that would add more to my information overall, I know I should think at bigger scale like if a person is contributing to forum then he/she deserves a karma but I also try to give them too.
It's just sometimes, I forget to give karma even to a good poster but appreciate them in reply, it's just silly me that I sometimes don't give karma to the ones who deserve it but from now on I won't be doing this mistake and as you started a good discussion which will add more information to the knowledge of other members so you deserve a +1 karma too. I won't be seeing your profile history, like are you obeying rules here or not as I think these factors should not be considered.
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You can be specific cause this will be helpful for the forum members especially to newbies to understand when they will be awarded positive Karma and what they should do and don't.
Topics and replies that are of high value are +ve Karma deserving because they provide value. A valuable post is a something that helps someone, and anyone who makes a valuable contribution deserves merits as encouragement.
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Just to hear the opinions from the individuals about what they lookout for granting positive or Negative Karma. For example if you see a guide which could be helpful then you grant +1, when you see a reply that gives the actual answer for the query of topic starter and like that.
Mine is not that complicated - I simply just check if your post has contributed anything to an ongoing discussion or if you’re just there to echo what has been said a thousand times in that thread just to cover your weekly quota.
There are times when I don’t make reply to a thread and yet still give people karma in that thread, there’s no fixed criteria for me just be on point and I’ll release the karma to you - as simple as that.
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This thread isn't about what admin posted regarding how to get Karma.
Just to hear the opinions from the individuals about what they lookout for granting positive or Negative Karma. For example if you see a guide which could be helpful then you grant +1, when you see a reply that gives the actual answer for the query of topic starter and like that.
You can be specific cause this will be helpful for the forum members especially to newbies to understand when they will be awarded positive Karma and what they should do and don't.
I personally enjoy engaging with interesting content that I haven't come across before on crypto websites or YouTube. I often +Karma new topics with thought-provoking questions and fresh ideas, especially when the authors dedicate significant time and effort to their analysis and provide personal insights rather than simply reporting on market events.
Additionally, comments that provide valuable information to the community also deserve +Karma. I believe that as long as members are genuinely willing to contribute their time, effort, and intellect to the community, I am always happy to give them Karma.
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I read every replies which is fewer than expected but those are enough to witness that everyone has their own way of giving Karma and that's the point of this discussion.
I expect more people to express their way of granting Karma that will be actually helpful for newbies to understand what are the do's and don'ts...
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I look Karma here like Merits in Bitcointalk, and I give it the same as well.
When somebody helps me with something, I give them karma. If I saw a helpful answer to a newbie, I give them karma. If somebody is constructive with their post and that post helped at least 1-2 people, I give them karma.
We have different factors that we are considering when we are giving karma to other people, but one thing's for sure though. I don't know what's the main purpose of karma here since they already removed the conversion of karma into ALTT tokens already. :D
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Since karma is not a merit and is not used to rank up, they way I give it completely depends from my mood. If I see good posts, they I definitely give +karma. It is not like I evaluate post from «if it gives valuable information», but for me it is enough for post to be well written and contain new idea (for example I would not give karma for post with «DYOR is a must», «not your key=not your crypto». That is basics that everyone knows and repeat each day on the forum). And I dont remember giving someone negative karma. If a post is bad, spam, useless, contains bad words, offend someone - I simply ignore it like it does not exist.
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I don't know what's the main purpose of karma here since they already removed the conversion of karma into ALTT tokens already. :D
Karma is similar to merits and upvote which shows that we are contributing to the community in some way so it's important to being recognised as valuable member of the forum. Aside from you may get other perks in future which we don't know yet.
- Positive Karma will grant bonuses from time to time and shows that you are a contributor to the forum
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Just to hear the opinions from the individuals about what they lookout for granting positive or Negative Karma.
I don't really send negative karma to any post but I believe the posts that contain AI content, or are fully copy/pasted content should at least get a few negative karma so such type of spammers may not make such type of posts.
I send positive karma to the posts that are helpful in nature and the user who made that post has helped the community with the help of their post. I often give +karma to posts that I find helpful, but I don't send negative karma to anyone even if they make some low quality posts or oppose my opinion.
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I don't know what's the main purpose of karma here since they already removed the conversion of karma into ALTT tokens already. :D
Good news for us @LogitechMouse, I remembered reading about this thread this past few weeks that this rule or the conversion of + karma to ALTT token is valid again. The admin updated the rule and you can request to convert it if you want.
Kindly see below,
Despite this update being announced in 2018, the pinned informational image that regularly appears between posts, the 9th reminder says that positive Karma can be converted for ALTS.
(https://talkimg.com/images/2024/04/03/VYkq2.jpeg)
Admin's reply,
updated, rule valid again
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I don't really send negative karma to any post but I believe the posts that contain AI content, or are fully copy/pasted content should at least get a few negative karma so such type of spammers may not make such type of posts.
You are doing right, if I am not wrong I only send negative karma twice here until now for the post that made with utternonsense and no one will benefit from reading them and also I suggest using - Karma when you feel someone is actually using AI because no one is going to benefit from a genric reply created by bot and thus destroy the actual purpose of forum along with that don't hesitate to use "Report to mod" when you see a low quality post.
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I can not speak for others but I can share my criteria. Usually, I send karma to the posts that are useful, like guides, tutorials, and useful translations as well. Or if someone shares something that I did not know before. I also share karma if I see the topic is interesting for me and I can join and talk about it.
Overall, the post quality should be good. Sometimes a short one-line post may get karma. On the other hand, some people write essays but that does not make any sense to receive negative karma from me.
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I don't really give negative karma unless an account is a bot, but I tend to put anyone who posts repeated points, quotes the whole post but only responds to one point, or says low-quality things like "thank you" without further comments, usually end up in my ignore list. It's not like I won't see their posts again in the future, but I feel that they need to make more than one quality post to improve their image and get karma from me. It made me a bit biased if the first few posts that I see from a user are somewhat low-quality. Judging from some of the comments above, are people using AI that prevalent? I tend to find more spammers instead of AI posters.
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You are doing right, if I am not wrong I only send negative karma twice here until now for the post that made with utternonsense and no one will benefit from reading them
Thanks, and yes you did very well by sending negative karma to the posts which were giving nonsense information that could not be helpful for anyone. It's always better to send negative karma to those who post spam or plagiarized content.
I suggest using - Karma when you feel someone is actually using AI because no one is going to benefit from a genric reply created by bot
That's a quite good suggestion, and yeah I believe we all should try to send as many negative karma to the posts that contain AI generated content as we possibly can. I have personally not seen any posts that contain AI generated content but when I see such posts then definitely I will send negative karma to such posts because those posts are not useful for anyone and such posts allow AI spammers to post more AI generated spam in future.
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When a member posts he has to give positive karma or negative karma but there are no mandatory rules like this but since there is a system of giving karma we can use its positive. If a member has made good quality post and his post has enough information then you can give him a positive karma but if that member can't make good quality post then avoid his post but there is no need to give him negative karma. If the post is too bad then you can point out his mistakes and give him the information so that he can post correctly next time so that he will get proper suggestion and not make those mistakes later. But not all users are the same there are some users who follow others and they use negative karma more than positive karma.
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Every post that improves the discussion on the topic gives a new solution, or a new constructive opinion deserves karma +
At the same time, nonsense spam posts that are only there to fulfil the post quota for the campaign deserve karma -.
Personally, I have no problem rewarding such posts. It's a shame that we can't even have an insight into which post got karma (regardless of + or -) that would probably help many to recognize where they went wrong and what needs to be improved.
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I don't know what's the main purpose of karma here since they already removed the conversion of karma into ALTT tokens already. :D
Good news for us @LogitechMouse, I remembered reading about this thread this past few weeks that this rule or the conversion of + karma to ALTT token is valid again. The admin updated the rule and you can request to convert it if you want.
This is wrong because karma is the only parameter whether a user contributes to quality, without having to read all his posts. It is very useful for campaign managers and facilitates the candidate selection process.
If it is already possible to convert karma points into ALTT tokens, maybe the admin could add certain badges like 100+ earned karma, 500+ etc... So even if he were to convert karma points into ALTT tokens, his previous contribution to the quality of the forum could still be recognized.
In the end, those who cheated are punished by deducting karma points, so in the end it equalizes the punishment of those who showed real quality.
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Right after I wrote this post, I opened a topic where the admin gives an explanation supplemented with screenshots, everything is more than clear. https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=313190
However, someone thought they had something to add, in addition to the fact that it does not refer to the problem that caused the topic to be opened, it is also very confusingly written, and it does not explain anything.
To go back to the same topic after posting you can click on your profile option from there you can go to show post option and click on the last posted post link but you can reach the previous topic. If you find this too cumbersome then the last post you post will be at the top of the specified section and your post will be at the very end. Your task is to find your post by going to the last page of the first topic in the specified section.
So what do you say, does this post deserve + or - karma?
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Until I figure out the forum properly, I am not giving out much karma (both positive and negative). I rarely give karma for a certain reasons. One of them is karma abuse. We all know that recently there have been many reports about karma abuse. And that's why I have restricted myself. Maybe 1 or 2 in a day, but no more than that. If it's highly informative or something I also believe, I send +1 karma.
If it is already possible to convert karma points into ALTT tokens, maybe the admin could add certain badges like 100+ earned karma, 500+ etc... So even if he were to convert karma points into ALTT tokens, his previous contribution to the quality of the forum could still be recognized.
It just sounds unfair. If that is really true and I wouldn't have any kind of recognition, I certainly wouldn't convert my karma to ALTT.
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Right after I wrote this post, I opened a topic where the admin gives an explanation supplemented with screenshots, everything is more than clear. https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=313190
However, someone thought they had something to add, in addition to the fact that it does not refer to the problem that caused the topic to be opened, it is also very confusingly written, and it does not explain anything.
To go back to the same topic after posting you can click on your profile option from there you can go to show post option and click on the last posted post link but you can reach the previous topic. If you find this too cumbersome then the last post you post will be at the top of the specified section and your post will be at the very end. Your task is to find your post by going to the last page of the first topic in the specified section.
So what do you say, does this post deserve + or - karma?
This is a sample post of a user who directly answers the thread's title. You can see that his answer does not follow the flow of the discussion, maybe without knowing that the thread was created by the admin giving an instruction or guide to this certain topic that was raised by teleported users a few months ago.
He also has a red or a bad color quality badge.
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Personally, threads/posts that help other users understand things well, in detail and in depth, always get +1 from me. Another important thing is that those threads or posts not only help current users, but will also help new users in the future, and that should always be appreciated and rewarded.
For users who only post spam and L.Q.P I have other tools, although I also use -1. But mostly, I use negative karma for posts or threads from users who disrespect others or feel superior.
I find this thread interesting and for everyone, since it collects the opinions and ways of acting of the members of the forum, which will be helpful, as I say, for current and future users.
@Findingnemo, +1.