Devin Haney and Ryan Garcia have struck a deal to fight April 20 in Las Vegas for Haney's junior welterweight championship, sources told ESPN.
Haney, ESPN's No. 6 pound-for-pound boxer, will step into the ring for his third consecutive pay-per-view fight -- his most high profile yet -- as he continues his star climb.
Haney, 25, fights out of Las Vegas and is ESPN's reigning runner-up for fighter of the year.
Good move on the part of Team Haney as for me they can't sell a fight due to style. For Garcia's part, heroic since this will be an uphill climb as Haney will potshot and hug him for the full rounds and win this via unanimous decision. But I do hope Garcia will upset Haney and become the champion of this division, tired of seeing boxers who hit and run but refuse to engage in a real fight.
Good move on the part of Team Haney as for me they can't sell a fight due to style. For Garcia's part, heroic since this will be an uphill climb as Haney will potshot and hug him for the full rounds and win this via unanimous decision. But I do hope Garcia will upset Haney and become the champion of this division, tired of seeing boxers who hit and run but refuse to engage in a real fight.
that's exactly what Garcia seem to portray to himself in public. he had been challenging big names since he wanted to fight every one but found Tank the first which was quite a misfortune lol he still got the balls to engage Tank though. it didn't stopped him though he knows Tank is a much capable than the boxers he fought.
it is not however how boxing aficionados look at it, he is just desperate to reach certain heights after a huge loss. but you're right this fight will sell. they already did a big brawl for a public show.
Good move on the part of Team Haney as for me they can't sell a fight due to style. For Garcia's part, heroic since this will be an uphill climb as Haney will potshot and hug him for the full rounds and win this via unanimous decision. But I do hope Garcia will upset Haney and become the champion of this division, tired of seeing boxers who hit and run but refuse to engage in a real fight.
that's exactly what Garcia seem to portray to himself in public. he had been challenging big names since he wanted to fight every one but found Tank the first which was quite a misfortune lol he still got the balls to engage Tank though. it didn't stopped him though he knows Tank is a much capable than the boxers he fought.
it is not however how boxing aficionados look at it, he is just desperate to reach certain heights after a huge loss. but you're right this fight will sell. they already did a big brawl for a public show.
Good thing that Ryan Garcia could sell a fight even after a loss and also kudos to him for fighting the big names in this division even though he is on the B-side of this match-up. I understand the eagerness of Haney to grab this fight as this will earn him another millions of dollars because of Garcia's power to draw crowds. I hope Haney will show up in this fight, fight Garcia toe-to-toe so people would buy his next fight.
So far everyone got so excited because of the faceoff that happened a few days ago It has enough drama to stir up interest and write and its still two months to go before the fight so imagine, I can't wait to see the press conferences, I see Garcia so hype on this fight this fight is going to be huge than the Garvonta fight it may even set a new record.
Garcia is going to be an underdog here and of course, he doesn't want people to perceive that and he will try to be very confident and make think that he si the better boxer.
So far everyone got so excited because of the faceoff that happened a few days ago It has enough drama to stir up interest and write and its still two months to go before the fight so imagine, I can't wait to see the press conferences, I see Garcia so hype on this fight this fight is going to be huge than the Garvonta fight it may even set a new record.
Garcia is going to be an underdog here and of course, he doesn't want people to perceive that and he will try to be very confident and make think that he si the better boxer.
With that shoving incident, I think the PPV buys will surpass the buys of Garcia vs Davis fight lol. Garcia is too good to sell a fight, just open his mouth and that's it, people are interested to see if he could walk the talk.
But i do think that come fight night, Haney will just potshot Garcia and cruise to a unanimous decision win.
With two months before the fight, so many things are still going to happen but we cannot discard the fact that Haney is on a higher level and a betting favorite on this fight and the odds will still go higher as the fight goes nearer, Garcia is so aggressive on this fight I have never seen him very aggressive going into the fight, he's not like this in his match against Gervonta, there was no pushing like this all are about thrash talks he showed no respect to Haney.
Garcia may have the power but Haney has the skill and is wiser than Garcia he has an excellent ring generalship.
With two months before the fight, so many things are still going to happen but we cannot discard the fact that Haney is on a higher level and a betting favorite on this fight and the odds will still go higher as the fight goes nearer, Garcia is so aggressive on this fight I have never seen him very aggressive going into the fight, he's not like this in his match against Gervonta, there was no pushing like this all are about thrash talks he showed no respect to Haney.
Garcia may have the power but Haney has the skill and is wiser than Garcia he has an excellent ring generalship.
Mental health issue again?
That aggressiveness of Ryan Garcia would not help him in defeating Haney, it will only help Haney to defeat him on a one-sided fight if he can't land those lethal hooks.
I have a feeling that Team Garcia knows that they can't beat Haney on the ring so being aggressive outside the ring might help them a little and also sell the fight to fans.
With two months before the fight, so many things are still going to happen but we cannot discard the fact that Haney is on a higher level and a betting favorite on this fight and the odds will still go higher as the fight goes nearer, Garcia is so aggressive on this fight I have never seen him very aggressive going into the fight, he's not like this in his match against Gervonta, there was no pushing like this all are about thrash talks he showed no respect to Haney.
Garcia may have the power but Haney has the skill and is wiser than Garcia he has an excellent ring generalship.
Mental health issue again?
That aggressiveness of Ryan Garcia would not help him in defeating Haney, it will only help Haney to defeat him on a one-sided fight if he can't land those lethal hooks.
I have a feeling that Team Garcia knows that they can't beat Haney on the ring so being aggressive outside the ring might help them a little and also sell the fight to fans.
This is why I still cannot believe that this fight materialized although there is still time to back down using excuses. Ryan can try the Fury route if he feels he cannot win and his training is not enough. James should be able to assess it in the last couple of weeks of their training camp. Ryan can also cut himself and then arrange a fake sparring session covered by a 1950 camera. Then let someone spread it on the internet calling it a leak footage of the sparring when he was cut.
Read my comment @KingRy if you don't want a soft puncher KO you. ;D
With two months before the fight, so many things are still going to happen but we cannot discard the fact that Haney is on a higher level and a betting favorite on this fight and the odds will still go higher as the fight goes nearer, Garcia is so aggressive on this fight I have never seen him very aggressive going into the fight, he's not like this in his match against Gervonta, there was no pushing like this all are about thrash talks he showed no respect to Haney.
Garcia may have the power but Haney has the skill and is wiser than Garcia he has an excellent ring generalship.
Mental health issue again?
That aggressiveness of Ryan Garcia would not help him in defeating Haney, it will only help Haney to defeat him on a one-sided fight if he can't land those lethal hooks.
I have a feeling that Team Garcia knows that they can't beat Haney on the ring so being aggressive outside the ring might help them a little and also sell the fight to fans.
This is why I still cannot believe that this fight materialized although there is still time to back down using excuses. Ryan can try the Fury route if he feels he cannot win and his training is not enough. James should be able to assess it in the last couple of weeks of their training camp. Ryan can also cut himself and then arrange a fake sparring session covered by a 1950 camera. Then let someone spread it on the internet calling it a leak footage of the sparring when he was cut.
Read my comment @KingRy if you don't want a soft puncher KO you. ;D
I hope nothing like that will happen the boxing community is enjoying the dramas, the thrash talks, and the allegations it seems both fighters are definitely looking forward to the fight if anyone backs out of it they are going to get a lot of insults, the boxing community expect nothing less, this is a legacy fight for each other and both of them will make a lot of money, so they have to be man enough to make it happen.
I hope nothing like that will happen the boxing community is enjoying the dramas, the thrash talks, and the allegations it seems both fighters are definitely looking forward to the fight if anyone backs out of it they are going to get a lot of insults, the boxing community expect nothing less, this is a legacy fight for each other and both of them will make a lot of money, so they have to be man enough to make it happen.
Same here, this is the fight that i want for Ryan Garcia because if he loses this one, his career might be over while for Haney this might be an easy work on papers but needless to say that he needs to be very careful of Ryan Garcia's haymaker. The good thing about this fight is the drama and thrash talks going into the fight, an additional spice to sell this of course.
He can still go on and box but every boxer in their prime besides making a lot of money also want to have a lasting legacy that will have them a spot in the hall of fame if Garcia keeps losing to top boxers in his prime then he may have a lot of money but he doesn't have a legacy to speak about when he retires, people will just consider him a boxer who earns a lot of money but do not deserves a place in the hall of fame.I hope nothing like that will happen the boxing community is enjoying the dramas, the thrash talks, and the allegations it seems both fighters are definitely looking forward to the fight if anyone backs out of it they are going to get a lot of insults, the boxing community expect nothing less, this is a legacy fight for each other and both of them will make a lot of money, so they have to be man enough to make it happen.
Same here, this is the fight that i want for Ryan Garcia because if he loses this one, his career might be over while for Haney this might be an easy work on papers but needless to say that he needs to be very careful of Ryan Garcia's haymaker. The good thing about this fight is the drama and thrash talks going into the fight, an additional spice to sell this of course.
I don't think that his career will be over if he loses to Devin Haney, sure it might take a hit, but he will resume maybe change coach or trainer again and continue to chase money fights. Also, when he says that he is fighting Haney for this legacy, Nah, this is simply for the money as admit it or not, he is one of the biggest draw right now, even bigger by Canelo.
So this fight is going to be big in terms of money, PPV numbers might hit 1 millions PPV.
True, if you are a subscribe to DAZN then you don't have to pay for it, but if not they you have to buy the PPV and it might cost you big money. But for fans, then doesn't matter as long as they see Ryan vs Haney fight.
He can still go on and box but every boxer in their prime besides making a lot of money also want to have a lasting legacy that will have them a spot in the hall of fame if Garcia keeps losing to top boxers in his prime then he may have a lot of money but he doesn't have a legacy to speak about when he retires, people will just consider him a boxer who earns a lot of money but do not deserves a place in the hall of fame.I hope nothing like that will happen the boxing community is enjoying the dramas, the thrash talks, and the allegations it seems both fighters are definitely looking forward to the fight if anyone backs out of it they are going to get a lot of insults, the boxing community expect nothing less, this is a legacy fight for each other and both of them will make a lot of money, so they have to be man enough to make it happen.
Same here, this is the fight that i want for Ryan Garcia because if he loses this one, his career might be over while for Haney this might be an easy work on papers but needless to say that he needs to be very careful of Ryan Garcia's haymaker. The good thing about this fight is the drama and thrash talks going into the fight, an additional spice to sell this of course.
I don't think that his career will be over if he loses to Devin Haney, sure it might take a hit, but he will resume maybe change coach or trainer again and continue to chase money fights. Also, when he says that he is fighting Haney for this legacy, Nah, this is simply for the money as admit it or not, he is one of the biggest draw right now, even bigger by Canelo.
So this fight is going to be big in terms of money, PPV numbers might hit 1 millions PPV.
True, if you are a subscribe to DAZN then you don't have to pay for it, but if not they you have to buy the PPV and it might cost you big money. But for fans, then doesn't matter as long as they see Ryan vs Haney fight.
He can still go on and box but every boxer in their prime besides making a lot of money also want to have a lasting legacy that will have them a spot in the hall of fame if Garcia keeps losing to top boxers in his prime then he may have a lot of money but he doesn't have a legacy to speak about when he retires, people will just consider him a boxer who earns a lot of money but do not deserves a place in the hall of fame.I hope nothing like that will happen the boxing community is enjoying the dramas, the thrash talks, and the allegations it seems both fighters are definitely looking forward to the fight if anyone backs out of it they are going to get a lot of insults, the boxing community expect nothing less, this is a legacy fight for each other and both of them will make a lot of money, so they have to be man enough to make it happen.
Same here, this is the fight that i want for Ryan Garcia because if he loses this one, his career might be over while for Haney this might be an easy work on papers but needless to say that he needs to be very careful of Ryan Garcia's haymaker. The good thing about this fight is the drama and thrash talks going into the fight, an additional spice to sell this of course.
I don't think that his career will be over if he loses to Devin Haney, sure it might take a hit, but he will resume maybe change coach or trainer again and continue to chase money fights. Also, when he says that he is fighting Haney for this legacy, Nah, this is simply for the money as admit it or not, he is one of the biggest draw right now, even bigger by Canelo.
So this fight is going to be big in terms of money, PPV numbers might hit 1 millions PPV.
True, if you are a subscribe to DAZN then you don't have to pay for it, but if not they you have to buy the PPV and it might cost you big money. But for fans, then doesn't matter as long as they see Ryan vs Haney fight.
he is too young to really be talking about legacy while he lost a fight already against tank. if he is talking about his ability to market a fight, he isn't that much effective as people have seen these days which he had been posting videos about ghost or something.
floyd should be talking to him about what he is posting because that affects credibility but you know its ryan's thing. if he can brag about knocking out fighters in UFC then he better back it up if one replies to it.
the only thing he got right now is that he is popular, good looking but if he starts losing again, it won't be long people will look at him the way people look at broner.
No homo, but this what attracts non boxing fans to Ryan, he has the good looks and we can compare him to his boss Oscar Dela Hoya when he was young and making a lot of money during his prime.
Hopefully though he will not turn out what Oscar did in the last year of his career, hehehe.
Broner though is different, he doesn't have the charisma and fans wanted him to lose, but here, fans wanted Ryan to win and continue with his career because he is like a magnet to boxing and non boxing fans.
No homo, but this what attracts non boxing fans to Ryan, he has the good looks and we can compare him to his boss Oscar Dela Hoya when he was young and making a lot of money during his prime.
Hopefully though he will not turn out what Oscar did in the last year of his career, hehehe.
Broner though is different, he doesn't have the charisma and fans wanted him to lose, but here, fans wanted Ryan to win and continue with his career because he is like a magnet to boxing and non boxing fans.
Yes they do have similarities but the Golden Boy achieved a lot and in the early stage of his career he was an Olympic Gold Medalist and Golden Globe Champion multi-title champion in different weight categories something that Ryan hasn't achieved at this stage of his career, he is an underachiever he may have a box office appeal right now but he needs to follow it up with impressive wins against notable and worthy opponents and wins a lot of titles we have 4 boxing organizations and until now hasn't won one.
Right now he is 0-1 against a notable fighter lets see after this fight if he can even it out or he'll go 0-2
He can still go on and box but every boxer in their prime besides making a lot of money also want to have a lasting legacy that will have them a spot in the hall of fame if Garcia keeps losing to top boxers in his prime then he may have a lot of money but he doesn't have a legacy to speak about when he retires, people will just consider him a boxer who earns a lot of money but do not deserves a place in the hall of fame.I hope nothing like that will happen the boxing community is enjoying the dramas, the thrash talks, and the allegations it seems both fighters are definitely looking forward to the fight if anyone backs out of it they are going to get a lot of insults, the boxing community expect nothing less, this is a legacy fight for each other and both of them will make a lot of money, so they have to be man enough to make it happen.
Same here, this is the fight that i want for Ryan Garcia because if he loses this one, his career might be over while for Haney this might be an easy work on papers but needless to say that he needs to be very careful of Ryan Garcia's haymaker. The good thing about this fight is the drama and thrash talks going into the fight, an additional spice to sell this of course.
I don't think that his career will be over if he loses to Devin Haney, sure it might take a hit, but he will resume maybe change coach or trainer again and continue to chase money fights. Also, when he says that he is fighting Haney for this legacy, Nah, this is simply for the money as admit it or not, he is one of the biggest draw right now, even bigger by Canelo.
So this fight is going to be big in terms of money, PPV numbers might hit 1 millions PPV.
True, if you are a subscribe to DAZN then you don't have to pay for it, but if not they you have to buy the PPV and it might cost you big money. But for fans, then doesn't matter as long as they see Ryan vs Haney fight.
he is too young to really be talking about legacy while he lost a fight already against tank. if he is talking about his ability to market a fight, he isn't that much effective as people have seen these days which he had been posting videos about ghost or something.
floyd should be talking to him about what he is posting because that affects credibility but you know its ryan's thing. if he can brag about knocking out fighters in UFC then he better back it up if one replies to it.
the only thing he got right now is that he is popular, good looking but if he starts losing again, it won't be long people will look at him the way people look at broner.
he is too young to really be talking about legacy while he lost a fight already against tank. if he is talking about his ability to market a fight, he isn't that much effective as people have seen these days which he had been posting videos about ghost or something.
floyd should be talking to him about what he is posting because that affects credibility but you know its ryan's thing. if he can brag about knocking out fighters in UFC then he better back it up if one replies to it.
the only thing he got right now is that he is popular, good looking but if he starts losing again, it won't be long people will look at him the way people look at broner.
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You can't blame him though, his life is in boxing, his father was a coach and the mom was a boxing judge in the amateurs. So maybe that's what instilled in his mind when he started his pro boxing career, yes you can make a lot of money, yes you can carve your own legacy. And then he has been compare to his promoter Oscar Dela Hoya who himself has his own legacy already. He already lost to Devin Haney, and yet he is still popular. Broner was all "About Billions" and his swag is very different, what he try to emulate is Floyd and when he lost to Maidana then it's down fall for him. I don't see Ryan going that way even if he was knockout by Haney.
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You can't blame him though, his life is in boxing, his father was a coach and the mom was a boxing judge in the amateurs. So maybe that's what instilled in his mind when he started his pro boxing career, yes you can make a lot of money, yes you can carve your own legacy. And then he has been compare to his promoter Oscar Dela Hoya who himself has his own legacy already. He already lost to Devin Haney, and yet he is still popular. Broner was all "About Billions" and his swag is very different, what he try to emulate is Floyd and when he lost to Maidana then it's down fall for him. I don't see Ryan going that way even if he was knockout by Haney.
now that Ryan was recently in custody and his money was seized as he claimed. if this is true like the videos he posted yesterday, he really will have a hard time this time. he is having a meltdown in twitter and then he thinks there's a group of people conspiring against him.
what did Haney said to him that made Ryan go insane in twitter. Ryan gone crazy already, he fight hasn't even started yet.
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You can't blame him though, his life is in boxing, his father was a coach and the mom was a boxing judge in the amateurs. So maybe that's what instilled in his mind when he started his pro boxing career, yes you can make a lot of money, yes you can carve your own legacy. And then he has been compare to his promoter Oscar Dela Hoya who himself has his own legacy already. He already lost to Devin Haney, and yet he is still popular. Broner was all "About Billions" and his swag is very different, what he try to emulate is Floyd and when he lost to Maidana then it's down fall for him. I don't see Ryan going that way even if he was knockout by Haney.
now that Ryan was recently in custody and his money was seized as he claimed. if this is true like the videos he posted yesterday, he really will have a hard time this time. he is having a meltdown in twitter and then he thinks there's a group of people conspiring against him.
what did Haney said to him that made Ryan go insane in twitter. Ryan gone crazy already, he fight hasn't even started yet.
Have not read anything about the above but if indeed that is true then i think Ryan Garcia's mental health problem recurs and this might be the reason for the fight to be postpone or worse get cancelled.
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You can't blame him though, his life is in boxing, his father was a coach and the mom was a boxing judge in the amateurs. So maybe that's what instilled in his mind when he started his pro boxing career, yes you can make a lot of money, yes you can carve your own legacy. And then he has been compare to his promoter Oscar Dela Hoya who himself has his own legacy already. He already lost to Devin Haney, and yet he is still popular. Broner was all "About Billions" and his swag is very different, what he try to emulate is Floyd and when he lost to Maidana then it's down fall for him. I don't see Ryan going that way even if he was knockout by Haney.
now that Ryan was recently in custody and his money was seized as he claimed. if this is true like the videos he posted yesterday, he really will have a hard time this time. he is having a meltdown in twitter and then he thinks there's a group of people conspiring against him.
what did Haney said to him that made Ryan go insane in twitter. Ryan gone crazy already, he fight hasn't even started yet.
Have not read anything about the above but if indeed that is true then i think Ryan Garcia's mental health problem recurs and this might be the reason for the fight to be postpone or worse get cancelled.
Yes, he is somewhat acting strange lately. Even Devin Haney says that during their kick off press conference, Garcia's breath smells something, and he did speculate that he might be drinking during that time. And I saw, but it was just a glance, that even Garcia's ex-wife is commenting on his weird behaviour.
So we are not sure if he is doing this for the promotion, or this is a sign that he might have another mental breakdown. Oscar should be very careful though and he should monitor stunts in public as this is not going to be good for his image.
Ryan already accusing hi family raped him and that his money was held and so he doesn't have access to it. that's really something crazy to say to promote a fight.
the kid is on drugs. in his video he looks like he hasn't a night and then talking about rituals where kids were rape in-front of him which he is exposing child rapist. and then he has a proof and then he is not showing.
Ryan as young as he is, with more than $40M in his pocket, i'm sure this guy had got serious mental issue.
Ryan already accusing hi family raped him and that his money was held and so he doesn't have access to it. that's really something crazy to say to promote a fight.
the kid is on drugs. in his video he looks like he hasn't a night and then talking about rituals where kids were rape in-front of him which he is exposing child rapist. and then he has a proof and then he is not showing.
Ryan as young as he is, with more than $40M in his pocket, i'm sure this guy had got serious mental issue.
This is serious allegation that could have impact on him going into the fight. By the way, do you have the video of this where he accused his family of raping him as i have not seen anything about this on my social media feed.
I always watch Stephen A. Smith videos on his YouTube channel, and just a few hours ago, he posted his opinion on what's happening with Ryan Garcia right now.
Ryan already accusing hi family raped him and that his money was held and so he doesn't have access to it. that's really something crazy to say to promote a fight.
the kid is on drugs. in his video he looks like he hasn't a night and then talking about rituals where kids were rape in-front of him which he is exposing child rapist. and then he has a proof and then he is not showing.
Ryan as young as he is, with more than $40M in his pocket, i'm sure this guy had got serious mental issue.
I always watch Stephen A. Smith videos on his YouTube channel, and just a few hours ago, he posted his opinion on what's happening with Ryan Garcia right now.
Ryan already accusing hi family raped him and that his money was held and so he doesn't have access to it. that's really something crazy to say to promote a fight.
the kid is on drugs. in his video he looks like he hasn't a night and then talking about rituals where kids were rape in-front of him which he is exposing child rapist. and then he has a proof and then he is not showing.
Ryan as young as he is, with more than $40M in his pocket, i'm sure this guy had got serious mental issue.
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Watch the video if you have time, but the kid has serious mental issues. Posting cryptic messages online, accusing here and there, trash-talking Haney to the fullest, etc. I don't know if he has mental issues or he's just hyping himself or whatever, but saying to him that he's under the influence of drugs? I don't think that's the case for him. Yes, he's posting something that we've never seen him doing online, but I don't think that he's taking drugs, but there's a deeper reason for that. Maybe he wants clout?
I guess it's safe to say that he's having some mental problems currently, but seeing him like that makes me think that the match will be one-sided.
There's a report that the sales of the tickets is not taking off because the price of the ticket is quite high and the location is another factor, Newyork is not a good place to hold their fight because it is very costly for the fans of both fighters and the boxing community don't like the fight turning into a circus plus of course reports of Ryan's breakdown which the boxing community takes it as a negative news.
There's a report that the sales of the tickets is not taking off because the price of the ticket is quite high and the location is another factor, Newyork is not a good place to hold their fight because it is very costly for the fans of both fighters and the boxing community don't like the fight turning into a circus plus of course reports of Ryan's breakdown which the boxing community takes it as a negative news.
And to add to that, there are now reports that Ryan Garcia will back out in this fight and maybe it's because of the reasons that you mentioned specially Ryan's seemingly behavior and as everyone is suspecting that the had another of his bout of mental illness.
But on the other hand, there is also this report that Shakur is willing to be the replacement in case that Ryan really do pull out of this fight. For now everything is not yet clear, but let's keep this noises for now and see later if there are some truthfulness in this news.
Will be bad though if Haney and Garcia is not going to materialized.
There's a report that the sales of the tickets is not taking off because the price of the ticket is quite high and the location is another factor, Newyork is not a good place to hold their fight because it is very costly for the fans of both fighters and the boxing community don't like the fight turning into a circus plus of course reports of Ryan's breakdown which the boxing community takes it as a negative news.
And to add to that, there are now reports that Ryan Garcia will back out in this fight and maybe it's because of the reasons that you mentioned specially Ryan's seemingly behavior and as everyone is suspecting that the had another of his bout of mental illness.
But on the other hand, there is also this report that Shakur is willing to be the replacement in case that Ryan really do pull out of this fight. For now everything is not yet clear, but let's keep this noises for now and see later if there are some truthfulness in this news.
Will be bad though if Haney and Garcia is not going to materialized.
Not a good news at all for the fans of Ryan Garcia and it is pitiful that his bout with mental health recurs if indeed it is true. On the other hand, if rumors that Shakur will be the replacement then bad news again for Haney as Shakur has all the tools to beat Haney if their fight will push through.
There's a report that the sales of the tickets is not taking off because the price of the ticket is quite high and the location is another factor, Newyork is not a good place to hold their fight because it is very costly for the fans of both fighters and the boxing community don't like the fight turning into a circus plus of course reports of Ryan's breakdown which the boxing community takes it as a negative news.
And to add to that, there are now reports that Ryan Garcia will back out in this fight and maybe it's because of the reasons that you mentioned specially Ryan's seemingly behavior and as everyone is suspecting that the had another of his bout of mental illness.
But on the other hand, there is also this report that Shakur is willing to be the replacement in case that Ryan really do pull out of this fight. For now everything is not yet clear, but let's keep this noises for now and see later if there are some truthfulness in this news.
Will be bad though if Haney and Garcia is not going to materialized.
Not a good news at all for the fans of Ryan Garcia and it is pitiful that his bout with mental health recurs if indeed it is true. On the other hand, if rumors that Shakur will be the replacement then bad news again for Haney as Shakur has all the tools to beat Haney if their fight will push through.
Ok, this news seems to died down already, and so with that, I think the fight is still going to happen. Derrick James is still going to train Ryan Garcia, and Garcia will likely go and fight Haney as scheduled.
Still a lot of time for Ryan to really settled down and not to commit errors in his social media account that will make him look like he has serious mental issues. It this is part of his bag of tricks, I think it's not good and might backfire on him.
Ok, this news seems to died down already, and so with that, I think the fight is still going to happen. Derrick James is still going to train Ryan Garcia, and Garcia will likely go and fight Haney as scheduled.
Still a lot of time for Ryan to really settled down and not to commit errors in his social media account that will make him look like he has serious mental issues. It this is part of his bag of tricks, I think it's not good and might backfire on him.
I also think the same that this fight would push through as i have not seen any negative article from both camps and you are right mate, this is not a helpful strategy if indeed this is part of Garcia's tricks to sell the fight.
I think now that the issue has been settled, Shakur can shop for another opponent while waiting for the winner of this match.
Ok, this news seems to died down already, and so with that, I think the fight is still going to happen. Derrick James is still going to train Ryan Garcia, and Garcia will likely go and fight Haney as scheduled.
Still a lot of time for Ryan to really settled down and not to commit errors in his social media account that will make him look like he has serious mental issues. It this is part of his bag of tricks, I think it's not good and might backfire on him.
I also think the same that this fight would push through as i have not seen any negative article from both camps and you are right mate, this is not a helpful strategy if indeed this is part of Garcia's tricks to sell the fight.
I think now that the issue has been settled, Shakur can shop for another opponent while waiting for the winner of this match.
Anyone seen tweets of Ryan Garcia? Another sign that he could still be in a lot of mental stress lately as he is like saying that there will be earthquakes all over the world. I know that we have recently had one in Taiwan and NY and he said that next is LA. In any case you will be the judge.
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https://twitter.com/RyanGarcia/status/1776313840633868749 (https://twitter.com/RyanGarcia/status/1776313840633868749)
Anyone seen tweets of Ryan Garcia? Another sign that he could still be in a lot of mental stress lately as he is like saying that there will be earthquakes all over the world. I know that we have recently had one in Taiwan and NY and he said that next is LA. In any case you will be the judge.
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https://twitter.com/RyanGarcia/status/1776313840633868749 (https://twitter.com/RyanGarcia/status/1776313840633868749)
Lol, hope that he is doing okay as the fight is merely 10 days away, don't want this big fight of him to be cancelled because of that mysterious tweet of him hehe.
Anyone seen tweets of Ryan Garcia? Another sign that he could still be in a lot of mental stress lately as he is like saying that there will be earthquakes all over the world. I know that we have recently had one in Taiwan and NY and he said that next is LA. In any case you will be the judge.
~snip~
https://twitter.com/RyanGarcia/status/1776313840633868749 (https://twitter.com/RyanGarcia/status/1776313840633868749)
Lol, hope that he is doing okay as the fight is merely 10 days away, don't want this big fight of him to be cancelled because of that mysterious tweet of him hehe.
That will be crazy but not totally surprised as again, it seems that Ryan is losing his mind again with that kind of out of this world tweets and it has nothing to do with boxing whatsoever.
On the other hand, if you look at Haney, he is laser focus, and the different between him and Ryan is that he is is chasing greatness. And we can't deny that, at a very young age, he has accomplished at lot as let's say compare to Floyd at his age. Haney has been a champion and still a champion at his new division.
Media workout of the two boxers is done a couple of hours ago, both look sharp, but I will say that I like what I see on Devin Haney. Ryan has the same style even if he is under Derrick James.
Still plodding and I think it will not be a big problem for Haney as he might pot shot Ryan all night as Garcia doesn't have any movement at all. He will be caught by the straight right and jabs by Haney.
Media workout of the two boxers is done a couple of hours ago, both look sharp, but I will say that I like what I see on Devin Haney. Ryan has the same style even if he is under Derrick James.
Still plodding and I think it will not be a big problem for Haney as he might pot shot Ryan all night as Garcia doesn't have any movement at all. He will be caught by the straight right and jabs by Haney.
Potshot indeed and I don't think that Devin Haney would risk on brawling against a heavy-handed Ryan Garcia. I'm inclined to believe that though Haney looked sharp in the public workout but i don't think he will go for a knockout win against Garcia, too dangerous for him.
Media workout of the two boxers is done a couple of hours ago, both look sharp, but I will say that I like what I see on Devin Haney. Ryan has the same style even if he is under Derrick James.
Still plodding and I think it will not be a big problem for Haney as he might pot shot Ryan all night as Garcia doesn't have any movement at all. He will be caught by the straight right and jabs by Haney.
Potshot indeed and I don't think that Devin Haney would risk on brawling against a heavy-handed Ryan Garcia. I'm inclined to believe that though Haney looked sharp in the public workout but i don't think he will go for a knockout win against Garcia, too dangerous for him.
If it presents itself then for sure Haney will go for it, but maybe he will not chase it because as you have said, Ryan still has that left hook and if he not careful he could be hit by one and it will be game over.
I will still be interested on how Derrick James will approach this fight, I wanted Ryan to be as slick as a African boxer and if James can do that to Ryan it will be great hehehe. Just imagine Ryan doing again the Philly shell, but this time it's perfect unlike against his last opponent wherein he almost do a spin trying to pull this one out. ;D
It would be great if Derrick James can instill something on Ryan's defense but i think one or two fight is not enough for him to get what he want, i mean changing the fighting style of Ryan Garcia will not happen overnight. He has done something on his last fight but it was awkward to see, perfecting that defensive stuff would be great against a slick opponent like Haney.
Judging by the replies, it looks like Garcia has a better chance of winning against Haney. Based on that, the odds for Garcia currently @5.80 is extremely attractive (by KO/TKO @10.0, by Points @15.0). What's your take on that? I haven't made a bet on this yet and I might follow along some of the predictions I will read online.
Judging by the replies, it looks like Garcia has a better chance of winning against Haney. Based on that, the odds for Garcia currently @5.80 is extremely attractive (by KO/TKO @10.0, by Points @15.0). What's your take on that? I haven't made a bet on this yet and I might follow along some of the predictions I will read online.
People here like me just love underdogs to win in boxing and Ryan Garcia is the underdog here thus his chance of winning depends on how Devin Haney fight this fight, i mean if he would go toe to toe, the chance of Garcia winning increases as the latter is a heavy-handed boxer, in boxing one punch could turn the fight around.
Betting wise, i would put my money (just a small amount hehe) on Ryan Garcia as the odds for him to win is attractive.
Betting for Ryan is a good idea it is attractive, as Ryan is capable of a big upset once he connects his left hook things will go in his favor.
These are the list in the card. May I ask who you guys betting?
These are the list in the card. May I ask who you guys betting?
As per bookies, the odds are not attractive if you are betting for Devin Haney to win as he is the heavy favorite to win this fight. Even the "over 10.5" is not attractive as it is only pegged @1.43, this is not attractive to us non-whales. The only way to win big in this fight is to take the risk of betting for Ryan Garcia but that possibility is so slim.
Final Tally: Haney 18-1-1Only 1 believed that Garcia would win and one voted for a draw if you're a risk taker Garcia is the bet to make.
QuoteFinal Tally: Haney 18-1-1Only 1 believed that Garcia would win and one voted for a draw if you're a risk taker Garcia is the bet to make.
According to longtime boxing reporter Dan Rafael, the two sides did reach a financial agreement to move ahead with the fight. A Golden Boy spokesperson said that the two reached an agreement and that Garcia would honor the handshake deal made at the press conference.
There's a big development in the weigh in, Ryan failed to make it weight, he is more than over 3 pounds but both camps agreed to proceed with the fight, so this day Ryan lost twice, he lost $1.6 million to Haney because of the weigh-in bet and he losses his chance to win the title and on fight night he will lose to Haney and that will make it three loses in a row.QuoteAccording to longtime boxing reporter Dan Rafael, the two sides did reach a financial agreement to move ahead with the fight. A Golden Boy spokesperson said that the two reached an agreement and that Garcia would honor the handshake deal made at the press conference.
Ryan Garcia misses weight ahead of fight with Devin Haney, ineligible to win WBC junior welterweight title (https://www.cbssports.com/boxing/news/ryan-garcia-misses-weight-ahead-of-fight-with-devin-haney-ineligible-to-win-wbc-junior-welterweight-title/)
There's a big development in the weigh in, Ryan failed to make it weight, he is more than over 3 pounds but both camps agreed to proceed with the fight, so this day Ryan lost twice, he lost $1.6 million to Haney because of the weigh-in bet and he losses his chance to win the title and on fight night he will lose to Haney and that will make it three loses in a row.QuoteAccording to longtime boxing reporter Dan Rafael, the two sides did reach a financial agreement to move ahead with the fight. A Golden Boy spokesperson said that the two reached an agreement and that Garcia would honor the handshake deal made at the press conference.
Ryan Garcia misses weight ahead of fight with Devin Haney, ineligible to win WBC junior welterweight title (https://www.cbssports.com/boxing/news/ryan-garcia-misses-weight-ahead-of-fight-with-devin-haney-ineligible-to-win-wbc-junior-welterweight-title/)
And so Ryan disappoint his fans again going above the contractual weight limit of 140 lbs. So he embarrassed himself, not sure if he did it intentionally or what but doesn't look to be very professional. They could have at least try, but things like this shows or reflect how unprofessional his team his.
Haney make it at 140 lbs, although Ryan is willing to pay $1.5 M but there is no belt on the line here as per rule if someone didn't make the weight then the belt is off as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eyz_FKBV5o8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eyz_FKBV5o8)
Seems to me that there is something wrong with Ryan Garcia, he's a bit off mentally.
Yeah no belt for Garcia if ever he wins, the title will be vacant if Haney loses this fight but i don't think Garcia would win this one. This recent incident only raises eyebrows on the boxing community and think Ryan is unprofessional, he could have achieve that weight if he is serious on this fight.
Will this become the end of Ryan Garcia?
Bipolar in that young age is really upsetting thinking that he has a great future towards this sports and now his future is being ruined because of this sickness .Will this become the end of Ryan Garcia?
Not an expert but as a fan of this sweet science, i think this is the end of Ryan Garcia. The boxing community is not happy with his team, on how they prepare for this fight.
You are right, they should have one psychiatrist on his team to monitor his behavior. Have read on social media that the way Ryan Garcia acted on the weigh-in is a symptom of bipolar disorder, poor kid if indeed that is true.
Yeah, that just shows lack of professionalism but it will be another good twist to the drama if Garcia actually wins the bout ;D I think he's fine in the head but probably disappointed with the turnout of ticket sales (gate and PPV) after all the promotions. Maybe he's all about the bag and if he's not getting it, there's no point in draining himself.
~ kudos to Haney as he still last the 12 rounds.Fans have been saying the fight should have ended early and that Ryan was fighting two guys in the same ring. I can't say I don't agree because there were moments that it seemed that way. I also think Ryan wasted the opportunity to finish him off for good. Anyway, it's all done now.
And so Haney won by a majority decision, it was a big upset in this division. Although no belts is on the line as Garcia was over 3 lbs of the limit. But he give Haney his first taste of defeat.He knocked him down 3 times and it still ended as a majority decision? I mean that one judge who scored it even was paid for sure, but he can't put an additional point to Haney because he got knocked down 3 times. :D
That hook of Ryan is money, as he was able to knockdown Haney and was never the same after that first knockdown. I thought that Haney is going to be strong at 140 lbs, however, it just shows that if you have a suspected chin, even if you move up in weight class, sooner or later it will be tested again by someone who has power and then going to knock you down for good.
Shakur and Pitbull are among the names thrown around right now.I don't know how Shakur plays, but with Pitbull, I don't think that Garcia will stand a chance against that one. He even almost defeated Tank Davis and just demolished Romero.
Ryan should have scored four knockdowns It is obvious the ref is protecting Haney he even pushed Ryan when Ryan got the momentum to knock Haney, It was such a crazy night and we all called Ryan a crazy fighter with his antics and dramas but we are all taken for a ride.~ kudos to Haney as he still last the 12 rounds.Fans have been saying the fight should have ended early and that Ryan was fighting two guys in the same ring. I can't say I don't agree because there were moments that it seemed that way. I also think Ryan wasted the opportunity to finish him off for good. Anyway, it's all done now.
Let's look forward to how this result is going to shape the rest of the match ups. Shakur and Pitbull are among the names thrown around right now.As long as there is no rehydration clause on the contract Ryan has a good chance to beat these two fighters but between the two I consider Pitbull very dangerous because of how he handles Romero
Ryan should have scored four knockdowns It is obvious the ref is protecting Haney he even pushed Ryan when Ryan got the momentum to knock Haney, It was such a crazy night and we all called Ryan a crazy fighter with his antics and dramas but we are all taken for a ride.~ kudos to Haney as he still last the 12 rounds.Fans have been saying the fight should have ended early and that Ryan was fighting two guys in the same ring. I can't say I don't agree because there were moments that it seemed that way. I also think Ryan wasted the opportunity to finish him off for good. Anyway, it's all done now.
Ryan just made a lot of bettors cry and made a few bettrors made a lot of moneyQuoteLet's look forward to how this result is going to shape the rest of the match ups. Shakur and Pitbull are among the names thrown around right now.As long as there is no rehydration clause on the contract Ryan has a good chance to beat these two fighters but between the two I consider Pitbull very dangerous because of how he handles Romero
who was considered a big puncher when he fought Pitbull.
~I read some posts that Ryan also racked up $12 million by betting $2 million on himself. I don't know if that's true but if it is, then that's a great way to recover the $1.5 million he paid for missing weight ;D
Ryan just made a lot of bettors cry and made a few bettrors made a lot of money
~I read some posts that Ryan also racked up $12 million by betting $2 million on himself. I don't know if that's true but if it is, then that's a great way to recover the $1.5 million he paid for missing weight ;D
Ryan just made a lot of bettors cry and made a few bettrors made a lot of money
As a lot of fans are asking for a rematch, Ryan isn't interested and admitted he could not make 140 pounds. He also said that he tried different techniques but the best he could do is 143 pounds. He's moving to 147
And so Haney won by a majority decision, it was a big upset in this division. Although no belts is on the line as Garcia was over 3 lbs of the limit. But he give Haney his first taste of defeat.
That hook of Ryan is money, as he was able to knockdown Haney and was never the same after that first knockdown. I thought that Haney is going to be strong at 140 lbs, however, it just shows that if you have a suspected chin, even if you move up in weight class, sooner or later it will be tested again by someone who has power and then going to knock you down for good.
That hook that hit Haney in the first round set the tempo of the fight, i mean Haney was very afraid of that punch that he was always clinching. The one thing that i don't understand about Haney is that he didn't use his footwork, he should be circling around Garcia like he used against his other opponents.
Haney was exposed in that fight and i do think that he would be having trouble against Pitbull and Tank Davis.
And so Haney won by a majority decision, it was a big upset in this division. Although no belts is on the line as Garcia was over 3 lbs of the limit. But he give Haney his first taste of defeat.
That hook of Ryan is money, as he was able to knockdown Haney and was never the same after that first knockdown. I thought that Haney is going to be strong at 140 lbs, however, it just shows that if you have a suspected chin, even if you move up in weight class, sooner or later it will be tested again by someone who has power and then going to knock you down for good.
That hook that hit Haney in the first round set the tempo of the fight, i mean Haney was very afraid of that punch that he was always clinching. The one thing that i don't understand about Haney is that he didn't use his footwork, he should be circling around Garcia like he used against his other opponents.
Haney was exposed in that fight and i do think that he would be having trouble against Pitbull and Tank Davis.
And so Haney won by a majority decision, it was a big upset in this division. Although no belts is on the line as Garcia was over 3 lbs of the limit. But he give Haney his first taste of defeat.
That hook of Ryan is money, as he was able to knockdown Haney and was never the same after that first knockdown. I thought that Haney is going to be strong at 140 lbs, however, it just shows that if you have a suspected chin, even if you move up in weight class, sooner or later it will be tested again by someone who has power and then going to knock you down for good.
That hook that hit Haney in the first round set the tempo of the fight, i mean Haney was very afraid of that punch that he was always clinching. The one thing that i don't understand about Haney is that he didn't use his footwork, he should be circling around Garcia like he used against his other opponents.
Haney was exposed in that fight and i do think that he would be having trouble against Pitbull and Tank Davis.
And we can say that Garcia really played it well, he could have been in Haney's mind and so with that he already lost once the bell ring. And again, left hook of Garcia once it touches Haney is over.
It could have been 4 knockdowns, but there is one that the referee that didn't counted, reminds me of the fight between Pacman and Barrera wherein there is a clear knockdown but the referee says it's a slip.
He learn his lessons here, and for sure he will adjust on his next fight. He is still the WBC champion and could defend it against his mandatory, sort of a getting back his confidence in 1 fight.
Haney should get a low level opponent for his comeback fight to bring his confidence back as a fight with Pitbull or Tank Davis will be disastrous for him as they now have the template on how to beat the hell out of him hehe.
The problem with Haney is that he doesn't draw crowds so his next fight could not sell in the PPV if against a nobody but they could sacrifice that one and have a rematch with Garcia and lure him to go down to 140lbs which i think Ryan would not do.
Haney should get a low level opponent for his comeback fight to bring his confidence back as a fight with Pitbull or Tank Davis will be disastrous for him as they now have the template on how to beat the hell out of him hehe.
The problem with Haney is that he doesn't draw crowds so his next fight could not sell in the PPV if against a nobody but they could sacrifice that one and have a rematch with Garcia and lure him to go down to 140lbs which i think Ryan would not do.
I heard on Bill Haney's live broadcast that Haney will take time off from boxing which is the right thing to do but since the WBC has announced that Sandor Martin will be his mandatory challenger he needs to go back to recuperate and go back to the gym.
Many don't recommend an immediate rematch, Haney is badly damaged it will be bad for him, they will just take off where they left if there's an immediate rematch and Ryan will further damage him.
Haney should get a low level opponent for his comeback fight to bring his confidence back as a fight with Pitbull or Tank Davis will be disastrous for him as they now have the template on how to beat the hell out of him hehe.
The problem with Haney is that he doesn't draw crowds so his next fight could not sell in the PPV if against a nobody but they could sacrifice that one and have a rematch with Garcia and lure him to go down to 140lbs which i think Ryan would not do.
I heard on Bill Haney's live broadcast that Haney will take time off from boxing which is the right thing to do but since the WBC has announced that Sandor Martin will be his mandatory challenger he needs to go back to recuperate and go back to the gym.
Many don't recommend an immediate rematch, Haney is badly damaged it will be bad for him, they will just take off where they left if there's an immediate rematch and Ryan will further damage him.
it was said that ryan broke haney's jaw. it definitely needs a long rest and probably a surgery to heal that broken jaw. the guys pathetic for celebrating being a champ still and showing celebration on the social media. while ryan been interviewed every podcasts he promised to go back after the fight.
in on off ryan's interview, he said all his trollls in the twitter are just all an act. they planned it like he was acting like a drug addict and so forth. lol i don't buy it but hey he won fairly and haney's are not saints anyway.
it was said that ryan broke haney's jaw. it definitely needs a long rest and probably a surgery to heal that broken jaw. the guys pathetic for celebrating being a champ still and showing celebration on the social media. while ryan been interviewed every podcasts he promised to go back after the fight.
in on off ryan's interview, he said all his trollls in the twitter are just all an act. they planned it like he was acting like a drug addict and so forth. lol i don't buy it but hey he won fairly and haney's are not saints anyway.
Garcia's next fight will probably be at 147 where the big boys are waiting, hope he can survive this division.