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Re: Do professional traders lose money?
« Reply #240 on: April 26, 2024, 08:29:45 PM »
Before becoming professional traders, they were also amateur traders too. And in cryptocurrency trading, even if they are professional traders, they will definitely experience losing money here. 
Predicting coin prices is not easy, even if it is done by professional traders. 
it could be that they are more expert than us, but it is impossible for their predictions to always be correct.

That's right, just because someone is an expert in something doesn't mean they will always be right about everything related to that, so even if someone has a lot of expertise about the cryptocurrency market, their predictions wouldn't always be correct because the market is unpredictable, and many times, it moves in directions that weren't expected by anyone in the market.

The recent dip in Bitcoin's price is a big example of this. A lot of people got liquidated in the dip because they had longed Bitcoin and many other cryptocurrencies but it fell down and they all lost money, one trader even lost $1.1m during this.

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Re: Do professional traders lose money?
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Re: Do professional traders lose money?
« Reply #241 on: April 26, 2024, 10:40:47 PM »
That's right, just because someone is an expert in something doesn't mean they will always be right about everything related to that, so even if someone has a lot of expertise about the cryptocurrency market, their predictions wouldn't always be correct because the market is unpredictable, and many times, it moves in directions that weren't expected by anyone in the market.

The recent dip in Bitcoin's price is a big example of this. A lot of people got liquidated in the dip because they had longed Bitcoin and many other cryptocurrencies but it fell down and they all lost money, one trader even lost $1.1m during this.
Learned with how many expert in trading of cryptocurrency still selling premium signal group its mean most of them want to earn profit by sharing signal and not confidence with their self consistent earn profit with trading. I don't see any professional of expert in trading not loss yet their money, many unpredictable happening in cryptocurrency when whales make bad or good news suddenly easy for bitcoin raise up and down.
Market unpredictable and spot trading for professional trader get chance loss their money, but when reach an expert level in trading understand well how to minimalize with loss.

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Re: Do professional traders lose money?
« Reply #242 on: April 27, 2024, 12:14:01 AM »
That's right, just because someone is an expert in something doesn't mean they will always be right about everything related to that, so even if someone has a lot of expertise about the cryptocurrency market, their predictions wouldn't always be correct because the market is unpredictable, and many times, it moves in directions that weren't expected by anyone in the market.

The recent dip in Bitcoin's price is a big example of this. A lot of people got liquidated in the dip because they had longed Bitcoin and many other cryptocurrencies but it fell down and they all lost money, one trader even lost $1.1m during this.

Everything in crypto is unpredictable also most of the gurus out there are frauds they will teach you to trade but the fact is they don't have any proof of profitability even if you ask them for overall performance but they can't provide any. If you want to become a trader you need to be consistent and start learning by yourself the basic trading that you learn from research should be enough to start observing and trying yourself to trade you are the only one will discover what behind on the chart.
I learn something from gurus from youtube but all guides and trading strategies do not work in crypto market its too volatile but find the support and resistance work that's the only guide that works but the 1 to 3 percent rule in trading plus the wrong position will always hit by overextended spikes because crypto market is manipulated only for little spikes but if you are advance to think that there is someone who does hunting stop-loss be advance and put the position under over extended spike.

Its just only my experience but I still keep learning from my own gurus outside and on YouTube not all are working you need to backtest and test yourself if you can be profitable tradingview should be the best friend tool you can use with free papermoney that you can trade inside their tool.
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Re: Do professional traders lose money?
« Reply #243 on: April 27, 2024, 05:46:22 PM »
Before becoming professional traders, they were also amateur traders too. And in cryptocurrency trading, even if they are professional traders, they will definitely experience losing money here. 
Predicting coin prices is not easy, even if it is done by professional traders. 
it could be that they are more expert than us, but it is impossible for their predictions to always be correct.

That's right, just because someone is an expert in something doesn't mean they will always be right about everything related to that, so even if someone has a lot of expertise about the cryptocurrency market, their predictions wouldn't always be correct because the market is unpredictable, and many times, it moves in directions that weren't expected by anyone in the market.

The recent dip in Bitcoin's price is a big example of this. A lot of people got liquidated in the dip because they had longed Bitcoin and many other cryptocurrencies but it fell down and they all lost money, one trader even lost $1.1m during this.
Trading platform is a speculative platform where everything is considered speculative. In the cryptocurrency space bitcoin is one of the currencies where one can buy or sell it only depending on assumption. But an experienced person's estimate and a novice's estimate will not be the same. Even if an experienced trader does not give assurance, he can certainly make reliable guesses in the light of his experience, which is difficult for new trader. But being an experienced trader does not mean that he will make certain profit from the trading platform. Many experienced traders also lose their assets.

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Re: Do professional traders lose money?
« Reply #244 on: April 27, 2024, 07:40:28 PM »
That's right, just because someone is an expert in something doesn't mean they will always be right about everything related to that, so even if someone has a lot of expertise about the cryptocurrency market, their predictions wouldn't always be correct because the market is unpredictable, and many times, it moves in directions that weren't expected by anyone in the market.

The recent dip in Bitcoin's price is a big example of this. A lot of people got liquidated in the dip because they had longed Bitcoin and many other cryptocurrencies but it fell down and they all lost money, one trader even lost $1.1m during this.
Learned with how many expert in trading of cryptocurrency still selling premium signal group its mean most of them want to earn profit by sharing signal and not confidence with their self consistent earn profit with trading. I don't see any professional of expert in trading not loss yet their money, many unpredictable happening in cryptocurrency when whales make bad or good news suddenly easy for bitcoin raise up and down.
Market unpredictable and spot trading for professional trader get chance loss their money, but when reach an expert level in trading understand well how to minimalize with loss.
To those people or traders who do really offer out that kind of premium signal and really that asking for some sub fees on which they arent that professionals at all.
If they were really that profitable then they wont really be making themselves that having kind of act since they could really be able to still make money on their own without
trying to handle up a community on which we know that it would really be having no sense i should say on having that kind of approach.  As a pro
then you could make easy money with trading but of course losing is something inevitable, the real deal on here is that you could really be able to make yourself that profitable in the end of the day.

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Re: Do professional traders lose money?
« Reply #245 on: April 28, 2024, 02:18:56 PM »
That's right, just because someone is an expert in something doesn't mean they will always be right about everything related to that, so even if someone has a lot of expertise about the cryptocurrency market, their predictions wouldn't always be correct because the market is unpredictable, and many times, it moves in directions that weren't expected by anyone in the market.

The recent dip in Bitcoin's price is a big example of this. A lot of people got liquidated in the dip because they had longed Bitcoin and many other cryptocurrencies but it fell down and they all lost money, one trader even lost $1.1m during this.
Learned with how many expert in trading of cryptocurrency still selling premium signal group its mean most of them want to earn profit by sharing signal and not confidence with their self consistent earn profit with trading. I don't see any professional of expert in trading not loss yet their money, many unpredictable happening in cryptocurrency when whales make bad or good news suddenly easy for bitcoin raise up and down.
Market unpredictable and spot trading for professional trader get chance loss their money, but when reach an expert level in trading understand well how to minimalize with loss.
I agree, they are professional and have a lot of experience, but that doesn't mean they will avoid losing money. No matter how great they are, I think they still experience unexpected things, considering that the market is very difficult to predict.

They can only minimize risks, not completely avoid risks. and when they experience something undesirable, they will recover more quickly because their mentality is already well formed.

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Re: Do professional traders lose money?
« Reply #246 on: April 28, 2024, 04:43:31 PM »
That's right, just because someone is an expert in something doesn't mean they will always be right about everything related to that, so even if someone has a lot of expertise about the cryptocurrency market, their predictions wouldn't always be correct because the market is unpredictable, and many times, it moves in directions that weren't expected by anyone in the market.

The recent dip in Bitcoin's price is a big example of this. A lot of people got liquidated in the dip because they had longed Bitcoin and many other cryptocurrencies but it fell down and they all lost money, one trader even lost $1.1m during this.

Everything in crypto is unpredictable also most of the gurus out there are frauds they will teach you to trade but the fact is they don't have any proof of profitability even if you ask them for overall performance but they can't provide any. If you want to become a trader you need to be consistent and start learning by yourself the basic trading that you learn from research should be enough to start observing and trying yourself to trade you are the only one will discover what behind on the chart.
I learn something from gurus from youtube but all guides and trading strategies do not work in crypto market its too volatile but find the support and resistance work that's the only guide that works but the 1 to 3 percent rule in trading plus the wrong position will always hit by overextended spikes because crypto market is manipulated only for little spikes but if you are advance to think that there is someone who does hunting stop-loss be advance and put the position under over extended spike.

Its just only my experience but I still keep learning from my own gurus outside and on YouTube not all are working you need to backtest and test yourself if you can be profitable tradingview should be the best friend tool you can use with free papermoney that you can trade inside their tool.

Trading costs a fee everytime you do a trade you pay a fee to do the trade.

Planning when to release a coin or a stock is important. Waiting to buy a coin or stock is important.

takes lots of discipline to not chase a losing position. takes a lot of discipline to not press a winning position.

takes a lot of discipline to say oh well and move on if you bombed.

the best traders are not the ones that whale like mofos in a bull.

the best traders are the ones that do not get crushed on down turns.

So yeah pro traders have very long losing spells maybe two years in a row or more. but they are pros and can handle it.
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Re: Do professional traders lose money?
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Re: Do professional traders lose money?
« Reply #247 on: April 28, 2024, 05:46:18 PM »
Do professional And experienced traders lose money share your opinion on this
Of course professional traders lose money in their trades. No trader can say that he hasn't lost money in his business so far, it is almost a guarantee that he has lost money when he started his business. I am not a professional trader but I am fairly well connected with trading but from my point of view there is no trader who has not lost because I have lost a lot of money while trading. However, even if there is a loss in spot trading, there is a possibility to recover that loss and if it is connected to the future trading platform, then there is no possibility to recover the loss because if you lose money in the future trading platform, it is lost forever.
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Re: Do professional traders lose money?
« Reply #248 on: April 28, 2024, 06:24:56 PM »
Trading costs a fee everytime you do a trade you pay a fee to do the trade.

Planning when to release a coin or a stock is important. Waiting to buy a coin or stock is important.

takes lots of discipline to not chase a losing position. takes a lot of discipline to not press a winning position.

takes a lot of discipline to say oh well and move on if you bombed.

the best traders are not the ones that whale like mofos in a bull.

the best traders are the ones that do not get crushed on down turns.

So yeah pro traders have very long losing spells maybe two years in a row or more. but they are pros and can handle it.

Honestly, at first, I can't move on losing much on a single trade it's very frustrating it is likely the same in gambling casinos if you are expecting to win the game but in the end, you lose everything that makes you feel angry, regret,ful and depressed.

That is why we should be ready for all possible outcomes and must endure the losses and always be calm and learn from mistakes and I learned to stop trade when the market is against my strategy and always limit my losses to 5% of total capital once I reach this limit I stop and trade on another day that's the rules on the day trading discipline is a must because sometimes without analysis when you put a position without validating it its totally gamble that the thing that newbie should focus on asking their self first "why would I put position here, there anywhere on this chart?" before making a decision to place a position.
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Re: Do professional traders lose money?
« Reply #249 on: April 28, 2024, 08:10:32 PM »
Do professional And experienced traders lose money share your opinion on this
Of course professional traders lose money in their trades. No trader can say that he hasn't lost money in his business so far, it is almost a guarantee that he has lost money when he started his business. I am not a professional trader but I am fairly well connected with trading but from my point of view there is no trader who has not lost because I have lost a lot of money while trading. However, even if there is a loss in spot trading, there is a possibility to recover that loss and if it is connected to the future trading platform, then there is no possibility to recover the loss because if you lose money in the future trading platform, it is lost forever.
Yes, professional traders don't have any supernatural powers so they can't guarantee that they won't lose trading. skill is required to be good at trading and professional traders have that skill to make good profit from trading but they cannot guarantee profit for every single trade they make. they also take a lot of losses but they can recover them over a long period of time by adopting various strategies. for this they can claim themselves as professionals.
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Re: Do professional traders lose money?
« Reply #250 on: May 01, 2024, 02:50:06 PM »
Do professional And experienced traders lose money share your opinion on this
Of course professional traders lose money in their trades. No trader can say that he hasn't lost money in his business so far, it is almost a guarantee that he has lost money when he started his business. I am not a professional trader but I am fairly well connected with trading but from my point of view there is no trader who has not lost because I have lost a lot of money while trading. However, even if there is a loss in spot trading, there is a possibility to recover that loss and if it is connected to the future trading platform, then there is no possibility to recover the loss because if you lose money in the future trading platform, it is lost forever.
Yes, professional traders don't have any supernatural powers so they can't guarantee that they won't lose trading. skill is required to be good at trading and professional traders have that skill to make good profit from trading but they cannot guarantee profit for every single trade they make. they also take a lot of losses but they can recover them over a long period of time by adopting various strategies. for this they can claim themselves as professionals.
Professional traders also experience losses and experience many bitter experiences that make them become professional traders. It all takes time. and as you said, a professional trader does not guarantee that they can always make a profit without ever making a loss, but they can increase their profits compared to their losses.
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Re: Do professional traders lose money?
« Reply #251 on: May 01, 2024, 04:29:24 PM »
Yes, professional traders don't have any supernatural powers so they can't guarantee that they won't lose trading. skill is required to be good at trading and professional traders have that skill to make good profit from trading but they cannot guarantee profit for every single trade they make. they also take a lot of losses but they can recover them over a long period of time by adopting various strategies. for this they can claim themselves as professionals.
Professional traders also experience losses and experience many bitter experiences that make them become professional traders. It all takes time. and as you said, a professional trader does not guarantee that they can always make a profit without ever making a loss, but they can increase their profits compared to their losses.
This is absolutely true, because in crypto trading it is sometimes difficult to predict and analyze.  So even though they are professionals, they will definitely experience losses and this can never be avoided.

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Re: Do professional traders lose money?
« Reply #252 on: May 01, 2024, 06:42:09 PM »
Both professionals and non-professionals can experience losses in trading. However, professionals typically exhibit better risk management and discipline, resulting in smaller losses compared to inexperienced traders. That's why I started my trading journey with a demo account, allowing me to practice without risking real capital. Later, I utilized Bitget's copy trading feature to follow and learn from experienced traders before trading on my own. Even now, I occasionally leverage copy trading to complement my own trading strategies

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Re: Do professional traders lose money?
« Reply #253 on: May 02, 2024, 10:18:40 AM »
Yes, professional traders don't have any supernatural powers so they can't guarantee that they won't lose trading. skill is required to be good at trading and professional traders have that skill to make good profit from trading but they cannot guarantee profit for every single trade they make. they also take a lot of losses but they can recover them over a long period of time by adopting various strategies. for this they can claim themselves as professionals.
Professional traders also experience losses and experience many bitter experiences that make them become professional traders. It all takes time. and as you said, a professional trader does not guarantee that they can always make a profit without ever making a loss, but they can increase their profits compared to their losses.
This is absolutely true, because in crypto trading it is sometimes difficult to predict and analyze.  So even though they are professionals, they will definitely experience losses and this can never be avoided.
A professional trader is good at managing their money, if they lose they will chase profits that are bigger than their losses. So the advantage of a professional trader is his ability to analyze, predict, manage funds and also his emotions. This is very difficult and takes a long time.
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Re: Do professional traders lose money?
« Reply #254 on: May 02, 2024, 05:33:45 PM »
That's right, just because someone is an expert in something doesn't mean they will always be right about everything related to that, so even if someone has a lot of expertise about the cryptocurrency market, their predictions wouldn't always be correct because the market is unpredictable, and many times, it moves in directions that weren't expected by anyone in the market.

The recent dip in Bitcoin's price is a big example of this. A lot of people got liquidated in the dip because they had longed Bitcoin and many other cryptocurrencies but it fell down and they all lost money, one trader even lost $1.1m during this.
Learned with how many expert in trading of cryptocurrency still selling premium signal group its mean most of them want to earn profit by sharing signal and not confidence with their self consistent earn profit with trading. I don't see any professional of expert in trading not loss yet their money, many unpredictable happening in cryptocurrency when whales make bad or good news suddenly easy for bitcoin raise up and down.
Market unpredictable and spot trading for professional trader get chance loss their money, but when reach an expert level in trading understand well how to minimalize with loss.
I agree, they are professional and have a lot of experience, but that doesn't mean they will avoid losing money. No matter how great they are, I think they still experience unexpected things, considering that the market is very difficult to predict.

They can only minimize risks, not completely avoid risks. and when they experience something undesirable, they will recover more quickly because their mentality is already well formed.
No matter how professional a trader is in trading, he can definitely lose money. When I am sure of something I can guarantee that I will achieve 100% success in it but no matter how experienced a trader is in trading he can never be certain or sure. An experienced trader has no way of saying with certainty that the market will move forward in the way he predicts. Since experienced traders cannot say anything for sure, we have to believe that experienced traders can lose money by trading. But I agree with your point that their money risk is much less because they do enough research on the market and their research is likely to be very accurate. That is why there is a lot of difference between a new trader and an experienced trader and experienced traders can always achieve success in trading.

 

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