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Is web3 developer friendly?
« on: January 09, 2025, 12:48:29 AM »
I can't exactly say how it happened but I've been coming across posts from developers in the web3 space a lot more lately, and I noticed that a lot of them talk about how building web3 projects requires expensive resources, and even access to specialized tools.

Although now we're getting solutions like U2U network that is providing developer resources, making it easier for developers to build and deploy their applications, as well as, providing clear guidance on staking and integrating wallets for seamless asset management.

That said, I still think we need more of this kind of solutions.

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Re: Is web3 developer friendly?
« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2025, 11:20:06 PM »
Are you promoting U2U here, it looks like it to me. I don't know what U2U is, so i don't know if what you say is true or not, i am also not a developer, so i don't really know much about challenges they face and the kind of possible solutions the need. Are you affiliated with this service?

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Re: Is web3 developer friendly?
« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2025, 11:11:34 AM »
Although now we're getting solutions like U2U network that is providing developer resources, making it easier for developers to build and deploy their applications, as well as, providing clear guidance on staking and integrating wallets for seamless asset management.

Shilling much?  ;D

No, web3 is a developer hell and a consumer nightmare, that's why everything that has been tried ha failed miserably and everything we have now is just the sale of useless tokens by teams selling vaporware.
Decentralization is inefficient when it comes to big data, having something like youtube run on a decentralized basis would be a nightmare, you can see how TOR has speeds that remind of dial-up days, for most applications web3 is useless, from the average consumer's point of view it doensn't bring anything special but a ton of drawbacks.

It's a niche thing and that's all it will ever be!


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Re: Is web3 developer friendly?
« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2025, 06:15:34 AM »
What a surprise. I think this is the third thread I saw talking about web 3 development. I'm not sure if they're trying to promote the same projects, it feels like there's a marketing team behind them that promotes multiple projects simultaneously. If OP is honestly curious about it, you might want to ask developers directly. For example, ask them on their social media channels. Most projects have a Telegram group for example. There's no way retail users will be able to tell you exactly how painful their development process is. On the other hand, most web 3 tools that I know of basically work the same. They offer a preset and tools for developers to publish their app easily, but nothing deep. CMIIW.

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Re: Is web3 developer friendly?
« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2025, 10:14:54 AM »
No, web3 is a developer hell and a consumer nightmare, that's why everything that has been tried ha failed miserably and everything we have now is just the sale of useless tokens by teams selling vaporware.
Decentralization is inefficient when it comes to big data, having something like youtube run on a decentralized basis would be a nightmare, you can see how TOR has speeds that remind of dial-up days, for most applications web3 is useless, from the average consumer's point of view it doensn't bring anything special but a ton of drawbacks.

It's a niche thing and that's all it will ever be!

Disagreed. Dexes are boon when every CEX requires kyc. Web3 login is better than email password combo. Complete decentralization impossible, but web3 is definitely not in hands of 1 entity, which makes it better in comparison to two. What do you mean with inefficient management of data?

I would like to hear your reasoning why you call web3 useless when defi, nfts, gamefi make billions in volume on daily basis?

On development of web3 dapps, something being hard or easy is dependent on individual's passion for it than thing itself. Anyhow, amount of web3 dapps is insane and new ones keep popping up every single day.

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Re: Is web3 developer friendly?
« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2025, 02:37:49 PM »
Disagreed. Dexes are boon when every CEX requires kyc.

DEXs that have proven over and over to be more centralized than ever?
They work for shitcoins, how do they work when it comes to anything else? What's the volume of BISQ compared to Coinbase?

Web3 login is better than email password combo.

Google Authenticator is older than Bitocin or any of the "web3" solutions.

Complete decentralization impossible, but web3 is definitely not in hands of 1 entity, which makes it better in comparison to two. What do you mean with inefficient management of data?

Simple, for a decentralized solution you need multiple nodes with the same amount of data and you needs nodes to communicate between them, with a centralized solution you one have one storage and one flow of traffic, if you think is more efficient then why do we have all that debate about blocksize in the first place?

I would like to hear your reasoning why you call web3 useless when defi, nfts, gamefi make billions in volume on daily basis?

Volume is meaningless, people bet on CS games for millions that doesn't mean you have to walk up with an AR15 to do your groceries.
The simple fact that some really don't want to accept is that if all Defi and NFT would evaporate tomorrow 99.9% of the world population won't give a damn, you have a 15-minute downtime on Google and the world goes nuts.

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Re: Is web3 developer friendly?
« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2025, 03:34:13 PM »
Disagreed. Dexes are boon when every CEX requires kyc.
DEXs that have proven over and over to be more centralized than ever?
They work for shitcoins, how do they work when it comes to anything else? What's the volume of BISQ compared to Coinbase?

I have never used BISQ, I was talking more along the lines of dexes like Uniswap, and it is making volume as much as coinbase. If you consider Ethereum as shitcoin and disregard it, it's different story.

Web3 login is better than email password combo.
Google Authenticator is older than Bitocin or any of the "web3" solutions.

What do you mean? How is Google authenticator relevant here?

Complete decentralization impossible, but web3 is definitely not in hands of 1 entity, which makes it better in comparison to two. What do you mean with inefficient management of data?

Simple, for a decentralized solution you need multiple nodes with the same amount of data and you needs nodes to communicate between them, with a centralized solution you one have one storage and one flow of traffic, if you think is more efficient then why do we have all that debate about blocksize in the first place?

I accept I don't understand tech side stuff much but isn't it a progress that current blockchains don't have single point of failure unlike web2? And similarly shouldn't we be finding solutions to current problems in future as well?

I would like to hear your reasoning why you call web3 useless when defi, nfts, gamefi make billions in volume on daily basis?
Volume is meaningless, people bet on CS games for millions that doesn't mean you have to walk up with an AR15 to do your groceries.

What?

The simple fact that some really don't want to accept is that if all Defi and NFT would evaporate tomorrow 99.9% of the world population won't give a damn, you have a 15-minute downtime on Google and the world goes nuts.

People who gave a damn about Google, did because they were using it. People who are into defi, nft will similarly give damn if they were to disappear (at least for a while, everyone moves on eventually, and people would have moved on from Google too).

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Re: Is web3 developer friendly?
« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2025, 06:15:05 PM »
I have never used BISQ, I was talking more along the lines of dexes like Uniswap, and it is making volume as much as coinbase.

My point exactly, DEXs are useless for Bitcoin, so, it's a user case fit for only some.

What do you mean? How is Google authenticator relevant here?

Because any kind of login based on keys is essentially this!

I accept I don't understand tech side stuff much but isn't it a progress that current blockchains don't have single point of failure unlike web2? And similarly shouldn't we be finding solutions to current problems in future as well?

Cassandra is a distributed database, it is the stuff Google, Facebook, and Apple run on, it uses redundancy storage but essentially it's one front that communicates to its back-ups in case of failure, it doesn't have a single point of failure but at the same time doesn't require 1000 full nodes nor to connect between them each time.
Now imagine YouTube being run on decentralized nodes, 100 back-ups and you will need 10 million people with 10 TB to be online and upload stuff at superspeed each second. Again, Satoshi didn't invent distributed or decentralized databases, they were among us when he invented Bitcoin.

What?
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Trading stuff doesn't mean you need that stuff.
I traded gold and oil and Boeing shares, I never purchased oil and gold and I don't like flying, just like that people can move from trading NFT or meme coins to TLC and Runie Coins (both invented names) for the sake of an example. Trading stuff doesn't mean you are using  that stuff

People who gave a damn about Google, did because they were using it. People who are into defi, nft will similarly give damn if they were to disappear (at least for a while, everyone moves on eventually, and people would have moved on from Google too).

3 billion people use Google each day, and there are 300,000 tx in the Bitcoin blockchain each day, that's 0.01%.  ;)

Take a break from these forums's bubbles and you will learn how little crypto is compared to the overall economy, when people think we're still early some really don't have a clue how much more we can grow.

 

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