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Website, Tor, Telegram channel and Twitter stopped working (obviously this is not a glitch). Given the fact that Samurai and Wasabi ceased their work, I would not be surprised if it turns out that UniJoin also closed for this reason (although I do not exclude other scenarios). I'm not sure what the reason is yet because I can't contact UniJoin.
https://twitter.com/unijoinofficial - Original Twitter account was
https://twitter.com/unijoin_io - Fraud (notice in case someone thinks that any official announcements are coming from this account).
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Here is the FR translation of OP: https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=314466.msg1460100#msg1460100
I would like to add, that Unijoin writes excellents articles on various crypto-related topics: sometimes about privacy, OPSEC management, history of cypherpunks, XMR etc...
The link of their blog: https://unijoin.medium.com/
I strongly recommand to read their articles! :)
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This is the translation of the post into Ukrainian — https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=314533.0
Good luck! :)
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I was looking at the UniJoin website and it seemed like this would be very interesting to discuss.
As far as I know, there are many kinds of mixers for Bitcoin and even in various forums they have been discussed and marketed a lot.
The mixer for Ethereum that I know uses an application from TORNADO which can dissolve every Ethereum coin transaction. TORNADO Website (https://tornadocash.eth.link/)
But on the UniJoin website there is USDT Tether which will make every transaction private.
I don't understand how that works?? Will it work the same as Ethereum using the TORNADO application?? Please explain to me , thanks :)
(https://i.imgur.com/gYDQTou.jpg)
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I was looking at the UniJoin website and it seemed like this would be very interesting to discuss.
As far as I know, there are many kinds of mixers for Bitcoin and even in various forums they have been discussed and marketed a lot.
The mixer for Ethereum that I know uses an application from TORNADO which can dissolve every Ethereum coin transaction. TORNADO Website (https://tornadocash.eth.link/)
But on the UniJoin website there is USDT Tether which will make every transaction private.
I don't understand how that works?? Will it work the same as Ethereum using the TORNADO application?? Please explain to me , thanks :)
Yeah indeed Unijoin is using Coinjoin to increase privacy on BTC blockchain. There are other ways of doing mixing, like Chipmixer (using "chips") at the time, which was completely different from Unijoin in the way it worked.
If you want more infos about BTC mixing:
Decent mixing methods (https://unijoin.medium.com/xv-8a4bbaec9d3c)
This video is great, explains a lot about how privacy works with BTC: Privacy on Monero vs Bitcoin with Seth for Privacy
I don't know how it will work for ERC20 tokens, for sure with a smart contract, but what will be inside the said smart contract is the real question.. I am also curious
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I don't know how it will work for ERC20 tokens, for sure with a smart contract, but what will be inside the said smart contract is the real question.. I am also curious
Well, this is the same question from me. Namely, it is in the Smart Contracts which have definitely been validated by people who are well-known among cryptocurrency enthusiasts. Will the famous person who handles Smarcontracts be responsible for any suspicious transactions??
For example, for Ethereum, every transaction on TORNADO must round off the transaction number, such as 0.1 - 0.2 - 0.3 - 0.4 - 0.5 - 1, 2, 3, 4 ETH and so on from Ethereum for transactions so that can be Anonymous with the numbers.
But for USDT, does it have to be rounded up or not for each transaction??
For example, 10, 20, 30, 40, 50, 100, 1000, 10000 USDT and so on so you can be anonymous. Let's discuss mate :)
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Well, this is the same question from me. Namely, it is in the Smart Contracts which have definitely been validated by people who are well-known among cryptocurrency enthusiasts. Will the famous person who handles Smarcontracts be responsible for any suspicious transactions??
For example, for Ethereum, every transaction on TORNADO must round off the transaction number, such as 0.1 - 0.2 - 0.3 - 0.4 - 0.5 - 1, 2, 3, 4 ETH and so on from Ethereum for transactions so that can be Anonymous with the numbers.
But for USDT, does it have to be rounded up or not for each transaction??
For example, 10, 20, 30, 40, 50, 100, 1000, 10000 USDT and so on so you can be anonymous. Let's discuss mate :)
Yeah I hope that Unijoin will join us on this forum. I'm also extremely curious about altcoins mixing, as it's something I've never used before.
In any case, once the service will be available to users, I'm sure they'll talk about it, and explain how it works and give more details
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I was looking at the UniJoin website and it seemed like this would be very interesting to discuss.
As far as I know, there are many kinds of mixers for Bitcoin and even in various forums they have been discussed and marketed a lot.
The mixer for Ethereum that I know uses an application from TORNADO which can dissolve every Ethereum coin transaction. TORNADO Website (https://tornadocash.eth.link/)
But on the UniJoin website there is USDT Tether which will make every transaction private.
I don't understand how that works?? Will it work the same as Ethereum using the TORNADO application?? Please explain to me , thanks :)
That option is not possible, "soon" has been there for quite a long time, maybe even from the very beginning.
I think they even stated somewhere that they will not develop these possibilities. But of course, the best thing is to wait for their officials to give direct answers.
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This is the translation of the post into Ukrainian — https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=314533.0
Good luck! :)
@icopress, given that other local boards have started translating Ann thread to local languages and Unijoin already has a pidgin translated thread in Bitcointalk, I've sent a private message to @Sokani, (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=97213) requesting that he brings the thread over to this forum as the Op (since he was the one that did all the work over there).
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Here's the pidgin translation of the ANN on my local board: https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=314752.0
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That option is not possible, "soon" has been there for quite a long time, maybe even from the very beginning.
I think they even stated somewhere that they will not develop these possibilities. But of course, the best thing is to wait for their officials to give direct answers.
The same thoughts as you because this stable coin has Smartcontracts which can easily detect the USDT at any time when it is transacted.
Then, in my personal opinion, this stable coin does not need to be used privately because basically USDT is FIAT which is taken equally with US Dollars.
More precisely, we have to wait for the approval of the answer from the #DevelopmentTeam for this UniJoin project, good luck mate. :)
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Then, in my personal opinion, this stable coin does not need to be used privately because basically USDT is FIAT which is taken equally with US Dollars.
Absolutely, that's why DAI (on Polygon network if we want it to be cheap to use) is a best alternative for now
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Then, in my personal opinion, this stable coin does not need to be used privately because basically USDT is FIAT which is taken equally with US Dollars.
Absolutely, that's why DAI (on Polygon network if we want it to be cheap to use) is a best alternative for now
Im sorry to be out off topic, is it true that DAI is a stable coin Anonymous?
If it is really Anonymous, can you explain in detail how the Anonymous stable coin DAI works?
Because the UniJoin feature has a Mixer for USDT, so there will definitely be comparisons with various other stable coins, what's more, DAI is said to be an anonymous stable coin (so maybe you don't need to use the USDT Mixer, just use the DAI for every transaction you make),if we want to keep it a secret.
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Great to see Unijoin in this forum!
Maybe it takes some time for everyone to get used to new altcoinstalk forum, but we can just move on and continue from bitcointalk.
When I used Unijoin I saw captcha images I had to solve and it was not that easy, I failed ten times.
Maybe this is protection against spam attacks but it is not good if I need to mix my coins faster and I never liked solving captchas. :(
Unijon was not giving me option to choose my own fees for using their service and I prefer to choose it myself, not always randomly.
Sometimes I want to have more privacy and I will pay 3% fee, but other times I just want to pay minimal fee with basic mixing.
Maybe Unijon did random fee generation because of better privacy, but I would give customers more options to choose.
Unijon referral links are good way for everyone who wants to earn extra 5% to 10% on fees.
I didnt have any problems using Unijon website and I like privacy service offered by Unijon but fees for bitcoin transactions can be very high,
and maybe this is the perfect time to add mixing for other coins listed on website, Ethereum, Litecoin and Tether.
Many people around the world are using USDT everyday and I dont know many good services who can offer more private Tether.
I want the option to send Litecoin and receive Tether or any other coin available on Unijon.
Are there any news when can we expect new coins to be added on Unijoin?
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Im sorry to be out off topic, is it true that DAI is a stable coin Anonymous?
If it is really Anonymous, can you explain in detail how the Anonymous stable coin DAI works?
I don't want to derail this topic too much, but DAI is not anonymous but pseudonymous. It's just "less worse" than USDT because it is differently backed and it is more decentralised. DAI's blockchain is public.
Tether can, for example, freeze your USDTs if they are flagged by a service or agency. We can discuss it in the altcoin section of the forum if you want!
If you want some articles on privacy coins : Best privacy coins (https://unijoin.medium.com/responses-from-the-first-faces-of-the-kostanay-region-2df5cca7fc61), How Do Privacy Coins Work? (https://unijoin.medium.com/crypto-conference-in-almaty-7eaab9a55c57)
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I don't want to derail this topic too much, but DAI is not anonymous but pseudonymous. It's just "less worse" than USDT because it is differently backed and it is more decentralised. DAI's blockchain is public.
Tether can, for example, freeze your USDTs if they are flagged by a service or agency. We can discuss it in the altcoin section of the forum if you want!
I don't know when or if Unijoin is going to add support for other altcoins and stable coins, but I still think that USDT is better option.
It is supported by many chains and now you can use it even on Bitcoin Liquid Network as L-USDT, swap it for L-BTC and back to Bitcoin.
Aqua wallet even supports receiving and sending USDT from/to tron and ethereum addresses with additional fee.
Another good thing about L-USDT is confidential transactions, and that could work very good with privacy use case.
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Many people around the world are using USDT everyday and I dont know many good services who can offer more private Tether.
I want the option to send Litecoin and receive Tether or any other coin available on Unijon.
Won’t this makes it look more like an exchange instead of a mixer?
Considering it is only a recommendation, we will have to wait and see what the #DevelopmentTeam has to say about it to see whether they will take it into account and perhaps include it to their roadmap for future development, or if they will stay with just mixing.
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Won’t this makes it look more like an exchange instead of a mixer?
No I don't think so, because they already have plans to add support for Litecoin and Tether, this would only increase privacy for all coins.
I just gave example of this two coins, and I think there are other mixers using different coins like monero as advance mixing for bitcoin.
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I have taken the liberty of translating this Ann into Spanish: https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=315311.new#new
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Unijoin is one of the few mixers that do not have a fixed network fee for each address, it is determined dynamically during the process and depends exclusively on the current state of the network. Did I understand correctly?
Is there a moment during the process when it is possible to see how much the fee will be deducted on this basis (plus your service fee)?
I started a thread for discussion about all mixers (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=315215) and the plan is to do a more detailed review of each service at some point and go through the entire mixing process. Since he has quite several mixers, I will wait for a slightly lower fee so that the costs are not too high. Now I'm just gathering as much information as possible.
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The same thoughts as you because this stable coin has Smartcontracts which can easily detect the USDT at any time when it is transacted.
Then, in my personal opinion, this stable coin does not need to be used privately because basically USDT is FIAT which is taken equally with US Dollars.
More precisely, we have to wait for the approval of the answer from the #DevelopmentTeam for this UniJoin project, good luck mate. :)
Yes, everyone already knows that USDT is a completely state-controlled asset. I would think ten times before using these coins even in the mixing process. Somehow I’m not sure about the positive result of the word at all. You won't be able to hide from financial authorities. It seems to me that in this case they already have the ability to track such operations. They foresaw this moment, I think.
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Unijoin is one of the few mixers that do not have a fixed network fee for each address, it is determined dynamically during the process and depends exclusively on the current state of the network. Did I understand correctly?
Is there a moment during the process when it is possible to see how much the fee will be deducted on this basis (plus your service fee)?
This is what I found in the FAQ: http://unijoin.io/en/faq (http://unijoin.io/en/faq)
Also, the miner’s fee that is required by the crypto network is paid by the user and deducted from the total mixed amount.
I think, as they don't state any particular network fee, that you're right and it's decided by the current state of the network. During the mixing process the mining fees are not mentioned as far as I remember.
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Yes, everyone already knows that USDT is a completely state-controlled asset.
USDT is not state-controlled asset, it is only pegged 1:1 with us dollar, but it is owned by private company.
It is not excluded that government will try to ban stable coins like tether in future.
This is what I found in the FAQ: http://unijoin.io/en/faq (http://unijoin.io/en/faq)
Dont use old insecure http website for anything, even more for mixers or anything related with privacy, and make a switch to HTTPS or Unijoin onion website:
https://unijoin.io/en/faq
unijoinxaogdzmk3bonngoxxoaezkmsfdyrtfyximisungh2dnc2azad.onion/en/faq
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Dont use old insecure http website for anything, even more for mixers or anything related with privacy, and make a switch to HTTPS or Unijoin onion website:
https://unijoin.io/en/faq
unijoinxaogdzmk3bonngoxxoaezkmsfdyrtfyximisungh2dnc2azad.onion/en/faq
Hey notblox1, I checked it in Google Chrome but I can't access it and there is only a warning that I can't open the write.
Can you help me by providing a tutorial on how to access this "unijoinxaogdzmk3bonngoxxoaezkmsfdyrtfyximisungh2dnc2azad.onion/en/faq"
I will appreciate you if you provide detailed steps on how to open it.
BTW, I'm very new to Bitcoin Mixer and there are a lot of things I've only just seen on UniJoin, sorry
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Dont use old insecure http website for anything, even more for mixers or anything related with privacy, and make a switch to HTTPS or Unijoin onion website:
https://unijoin.io/en/faq
unijoinxaogdzmk3bonngoxxoaezkmsfdyrtfyximisungh2dnc2azad.onion/en/faq
Hey notblox1, I checked it in Google Chrome but I can't access it and there is only a warning that I can't open the write.
Can you help me by providing a tutorial on how to access this "unijoinxaogdzmk3bonngoxxoaezkmsfdyrtfyximisungh2dnc2azad.onion/en/faq"
I will appreciate you if you provide detailed steps on how to open it.
BTW, I'm very new to Bitcoin Mixer and there are a lot of things I've only just seen on UniJoin, sorry
Onion sites can only be accessed through Tor browsers.
You’ll have to go online and search for tutorials on how to download tor browser after the installation process then copy the .onion site that notblox1 shared and paste it into the browser it should work fine – it’s not that difficult to do.
I would have provided a step by step guide for you but I’m currently not in the right position to do it, but if you follow what I said above you should be able to get your Tor browser working.
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Dont use old insecure http website for anything, even more for mixers or anything related with privacy, and make a switch to HTTPS or Unijoin onion website:
https://unijoin.io/en/faq
unijoinxaogdzmk3bonngoxxoaezkmsfdyrtfyximisungh2dnc2azad.onion/en/faq
Hey notblox1, I checked it in Google Chrome but I can't access it and there is only a warning that I can't open the write.
Can you help me by providing a tutorial on how to access this "unijoinxaogdzmk3bonngoxxoaezkmsfdyrtfyximisungh2dnc2azad.onion/en/faq"
Onion sites can only be accessed through Tor browsers.
You’ll have to go online and search for tutorials on how to download tor browser after the installation process then copy the .onion site that notblox1 shared and paste it into the browser it should work fine – it’s not that difficult to do.
Hey , can i join on this thread ?
If yes , i'll try to create step by step how to Download TOR Browser , let's try ;D
-Please try accest his website https://www.torproject.org/download/
-Look at file download with TRO App
-Click Rigth Button and Run as administrator
-Select language your choice (i choice English)
-Choose "Install"
-Click Finish
-Choose "Configure" if your country need private network requires a proxy (like as Turkey , China and Egypt)
(https://i.imgur.com/zkO7EZi.png)
-I choose "Safest" like as at Youtube Tutorial "https://www*youtube*com/watch?v=5EZJq1BeZ6w"
-After I tried with "unijoinxaogdzmk3bonngoxxoaezkmsfdyrtfyximisungh2dnc2azad.onion/en/faq" , the display changed to can't accest , what happen ?
Please check this :
(https://i.imgur.com/sLz5HRX.png)
Please tell me in detail, I have tried following the YouTube tutorial from this channel "https://www*youtube*com/watch?v=5EZJq1BeZ6w" but I still can't access TOR perfectly.
It seems like I'm having problems with the steps I've done, please explain, where did I go wrong when installing TOR Browser?
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It seems like I'm having problems with the steps I've done, please explain, where did I go wrong when installing TOR Browser?
If you did everything correctly, then everything should be exactly the same for you. I had no problems accessing the site through the Tor browser. Be extremely careful about what address you enter in the address bar:
(https://i.ibb.co/jVGW1VJ/Uni-Join-FAQ-Tor-Browser.jpg) (https://ibb.co/28Psf8Z)
If you are still not allowed to access the site, I recommend updating the server chain.
(https://i.ibb.co/JqDrK07/122.jpg) (https://ibb.co/m0fhG1q)
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It seems like I'm having problems with the steps I've done, please explain, where did I go wrong when installing TOR Browser?
Are you sure you are connected to the TOR network?
(https://talkimg.com/images/2024/01/16/3rcnG.png)
If you use the TOR browser, this is the proper link you need to use. No need for clearnet site (at least what can be seen on your screenshot)
http://unijoinxaogdzmk3bonngoxxoaezkmsfdyrtfyximisungh2dnc2azad.onion/
btw. Everything works fine by my side.
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-I choose "Safest" like as at Youtube Tutorial "https://www*youtube*com/watch?v=5EZJq1BeZ6w"
It didn't work with 'safest' for me either. I just chose 'safe' and then it worked properly.
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btw. Everything works fine by my side.
Are you both picking 'safest'?
Btw, how can the letter of guarantee be opened? It's an ASON file.
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Here is my review of the UniJoin site.
Website/Impressions
At first glance, the UniJoin site creates a pleasant impression because its use is intuitive, and all the necessary information can be found in the menu tabs. It is worth noting that the site is translated into 9 languages, which means that users from almost all over the world can easily find and understand the necessary information about this mixer. For example, users can familiarize themselves with the service fees in the Pricing tab, and answers to almost all the questions that users may have while using the site can be found in the FAQ tab.
The only thing I found odd is that the FAQ tab states that the minimum amount for mixing is 0.000 BTC, although this value actually should be at least 0.001 BTC. It looks like a typo.
(https://i.ibb.co/tJcDDwC/11.png)
In addition, I would note the Contact tab, namely the feature that allows you to generate a random name for the request. It seemed like a small thing, but such things show that the Unijoin team really cares about the anonymity of its users.
Well, I'd like to say a few more words about the design of the UniJoin site. It is made in pleasant colors and looks modern. In addition, the site is responsive. I checked it from devices with different resolutions (desktop, phone), and the site design looked good, i.e. without any defects.
Mix
Well, now let's start mixing BTC and testing the main functionality of the UniJoin site.
I was mixing BTC through Clearnet, although it's worth noting that the UniJoin site has a TOR mirror.
- At the first step, we should specify in the appropriate fields from 1 to 8 addresses to which payments will be made after mixing. It is possible to select the percentage of amount distribution for each address and set the delay for transfer from 2 to 72 hours.
In addition, we can enter Unicode at this step (optional).
(https://i.ibb.co/7GGBkhp/1.png)
Click continue, and the site will ask you to pass the captcha. - Now we should carefully read the terms and confirm them by ticking the appropriate checkboxes.
(https://i.ibb.co/gvq1hQ1/2.png) - At this step, we should download the letter of guarantee and send the BTC that we want to mix to the specified address. In my case, the service fee was 2.0534%
Keep in mind that BTC must be transferred within 24 hours to the specified address, otherwise, the order will be deleted.
(https://i.ibb.co/5MzxDwf/3.png) - Mixing in the process...
(https://i.ibb.co/tqYBrRX/mixing.gif) - That's it. The mixing is complete, and untraceable BTC(sats) have been transferred to the specified address after the specified time (3h 38 min)(https://i.ibb.co/F72hh8F/5.png)
Summary:
Overall, I enjoyed using the UniJoin site. The site has a nice design, and all the necessary information is well structured, while the mixing process is intuitive and works smoothly.
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Are you both picking 'safest'?
Btw, how can the letter of guarantee be opened? It's an ASON file.
If you mean about security level, "Safer" is selected on my settings.
About the letter of guarantee, usually open it with any text editor/reader. Notepad for example.
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...When I used Unijoin I saw captcha images I had to solve and it was not that easy, I failed ten times.
Maybe this is protection against spam attacks but it is not good if I need to mix my coins faster and I never liked solving captchas...
I can assume that such difficulties with passing the captcha often arise when using a free VPN. Even if there is another reason, there can be no complaints against Unijoint, which uses a third-party Cloudflare service to combat bots. So, regarding the problems with the captcha solution, you need to send your questions directly to Cloudflare.
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If you are still not allowed to access the site, I recommend updating the server chain.
(https://i.ibb.co/JqDrK07/122.jpg) (https://ibb.co/m0fhG1q)
For now, I have read this thread over and over again and the result is that I can access UniJoin with Tor Browser.
But my problem is in the User Interface and this makes me feel uncomfortable because the Tor Browser feels very slow.
I use a notebook with 4GB RAM, Windows 10 and, Internet speed 30 Mbps but it still feels very slow, do you feel the same slow when opening UniJoin in Tor Browser?
(https://i.imgur.com/INMlLaV.png)
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I have recently tested the service and I have little to add to dwyane36's excellent review. In my case I did it using Tor and from the comments above it seems that you have to use the 'Safer' level instead of 'Safest' to get access. The site is very easy to use, everything is clearly explained and it is very intuitive. The mixing process worked like clockwork.
Perhaps the only thing I would add is that it is not worth mixing with low amounts if the fees are high as they have been recently over 200 sats/vByte. If you have an input of the minimum amount to mix or similar (0.001 BTC) it is better to wait until the fees go down and/or you have other inputs.
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For now, I have read this thread over and over again and the result is that I can access UniJoin with Tor Browser.
But my problem is in the User Interface and this makes me feel uncomfortable because the Tor Browser feels very slow.
I use a notebook with 4GB RAM, Windows 10 and, Internet speed 30 Mbps but it still feels very slow, do you feel the same slow when opening UniJoin in Tor Browser?
Nope, I checked it now, and the site opens and works fine in the Tor browser as well as other browsers. If you have it running very slow, the problem is probably that your laptop only has 4 GB RAM. In the current realities, this amount of RAM is not enough even for Windows 10 to function properly. Obviously, surfing the internet through browsers or running any other programs requires even more RAM than the operating system running idle.
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For now, I have read this thread over and over again and the result is that I can access UniJoin with Tor Browser.
But my problem is in the User Interface and this makes me feel uncomfortable because the Tor Browser feels very slow.
I use a notebook with 4GB RAM, Windows 10 and, Internet speed 30 Mbps but it still feels very slow, do you feel the same slow when opening UniJoin in Tor Browser?
(https://i.imgur.com/INMlLaV.png)
Yes, when using the Tor browser, problems with information processing speed may occur. This is normal. There's nothing to be afraid of. I have slightly different parameters: Internet - more than 50 Mbps, RAM - 8 GB. In principle, your data should be enough for this entire process. Naturally, it will take you some time to get used to such realities. There's nothing to be done about it. This is how an onion router works.
When you click this button, the server chain changes. This may affect the site's page loading speed.
(https://i.ibb.co/zrw3Fqk/Uni-Join-io-Coin-Join-Mixer-Your-Anonymity-Is-Our-Priority-Google-Chrome.jpg) (https://ibb.co/FKtQXRP)
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For the TOR browser installation, it has been checked repeatedly and it turns out that the use of this browser TOR feels slow as said by @fruktik .
I will also record the information provided by you (@dwyane36) and @don Pedro Dinero, this is very useful to be able to test it on the Mixer Platform for Unijoin.
I personally and generally for all members in the Altcoinstalsk forum must prepare at least 0.0015 BTC because to minimize the surge in transaction gas costs, do not get right at 0.001 BTC when mixing.
Btw, can it be when I do a trial at Unijoin asking for your help through PM?
So that the fast response for the experiment because this involves my bitcoin assets, and I am afraid to make mistakes in unijoin which resulted in my bitcoin lost. :)
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For now, I have read this thread over and over again and the result is that I can access UniJoin with Tor Browser.
But my problem is in the User Interface and this makes me feel uncomfortable because the Tor Browser feels very slow.
I use a notebook with 4GB RAM, Windows 10 and, Internet speed 30 Mbps but it still feels very slow, do you feel the same slow when opening UniJoin in Tor Browser?
Nope, I checked it now, and the site opens and works fine in the Tor browser as well as other browsers. If you have it running very slow, the problem is probably that your laptop only has 4 GB RAM. In the current realities, this amount of RAM is not enough even for Windows 10 to function properly. Obviously, surfing the internet through browsers or running any other programs requires even more RAM than the operating system running idle.
You are correct, I was going to say the same thing as well, though I have not really tested the UniJoin mixing service since I was not around last week, something serious came up in my hometown and I had to travel, and as a result, I lost access to my internet device and could do anything online.
But I am back now, and yesterday, I did try visiting the UniJoin website using Tor browser, and it loaded pretty fast, my system is just as the same specification as his, windows 10, around 30 to 35 mbps internet speed, the only difference is that, mine is 8 gig ram instead of 4 gig as his is.
So, this is pointing to his system running app memory being too low, and I will suggest he consider increasing/upgrading it to something much bigger.
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Nope, I checked it now, and the site opens and works fine in the Tor browser as well as other browsers. If you have it running very slow, the problem is probably that your laptop only has 4 GB RAM. In the current realities, this amount of RAM is not enough even for Windows 10 to function properly. Obviously, surfing the internet through browsers or running any other programs requires even more RAM than the operating system running idle.
You can easily browse around with Tor with 4Gb of ram, it takes more when starting the browser but it has absolutely no impact on the actual speed, chrome would fare far worse because of the lack of ram.
Also guys, TOR is not meant and it can't be fast, if the some relays get overwhelm with traffic and there is no clear routing between then you can experience snail speeds, it's a known fact and it has been like that for years, normally there are 3 relays between you and the target if any on this route experiences problem just try as a quick fix to restart a circuit , stop dreaming about 30-40 Mbps speeds ;D
https://metrics.torproject.org/torperf.html?start=2024-01-14&end=2024-01-17&server=onion&filesize=1mb
-After I tried with "unijoinxaogdzmk3bonngoxxoaezkmsfdyrtfyximisungh2dnc2azad.onion/en/faq" , the display changed to can't accest , what happen ?
Please check this :
(https://i.imgur.com/sLz5HRX.png)
Wait a minute , you're saying that the onion website is redirecting you to the clearnet site?
The error is on the clearnet site not on unijoinxaogdzmk3bonngoxxoaezkmsfdyrtfyximisungh2dnc2azad.onion
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I see this topic turned into education about using Tor browser :o
Better don't mess around with Tor browser settings if you don't know what you are doing.
People who want to test onion addresses can also do it with Brave browser, since they are also supported and can be opened in new window.
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For now, I have read this thread over and over again and the result is that I can access UniJoin with Tor Browser.
But my problem is in the User Interface and this makes me feel uncomfortable because the Tor Browser feels very slow.
I use a notebook with 4GB RAM, Windows 10 and, Internet speed 30 Mbps but it still feels very slow, do you feel the same slow when opening UniJoin in Tor Browser?
On my end on the first access of the site, it loads slowly but after it's done it loads fast and I think you just need to wait for the tor browser to establish a connection in a few minutes before accessing any tor links. I have a PC with 8 GB RAM and Windows 10 with internet speed of 200mbps.
You can try to set the settings "Always connect automatically" so that you don't need to manually connect the Tor browser to the server.
Or try to install a 32-bit TOR browser if the current one is 64-bit.
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I don't know when or if Unijoin is going to add support for other altcoins and stable coins, but I still think that USDT is better option.
I talked about this several times with the UniJoin team and, as far as I can tell, we are talking about June-July.
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Wait a minute , you're saying that the onion website is redirecting you to the clearnet site?
The error is on the clearnet site not on unijoinxaogdzmk3bonngoxxoaezkmsfdyrtfyximisungh2dnc2azad.onion
Thanks before , but this time already installed Tor Browser for check UniJoin and next time i'll try UniJoin with Tor Browser.
People who want to test onion addresses can also do it with Brave browser, since they are also supported and can be opened in new window.
haha lol , in my main reply, I tried to explain that I am a beginner in Bitcoin Mixer, I asked in this topic how to use UniJoin in stages, starting from blah blah blah blah untill blah blah blah blah succes :P
And now you also taught me that UniJoin is also very worth checking out in Brave Browser.
I want to ask you again, can you give a tutorial on how to use UniJoin with Brave Browser?
The reason is because according to you, Brave Browser has many features for UniJoin :P
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haha lol , in my main reply, I tried to explain that I am a beginner in Bitcoin Mixer, I asked in this topic how to use UniJoin in stages, starting from blah blah blah blah untill blah blah blah blah succes :P
And now you also taught me that UniJoin is also very worth checking out in Brave Browser.
I want to ask you again, can you give a tutorial on how to use UniJoin with Brave Browser?
Brave is based on Chromium (Google) and IMO is a terrible choice for privacy and anonymity.
But you don't need any tutorial, if you want to test, you can download Brave browser, "open a new tab with tor", and you can just paste any .onion link.
dkbit98 is right, it is still better to use Brave than a misconfigured Tor, but I personnaly think that you should just download and use Tor without modifying anything. For a basic usage it should be fine.
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I talked about this several times with the UniJoin team and, as far as I can tell, we are talking about June-July.
Thanks, but you didn't say what coins they plan to add ;)
I want to ask you again, can you give a tutorial on how to use UniJoin with Brave Browser?
No.
You don't need tutorial for using simple things, and please stop posting a bunch of nonsense like this or I will ignore you :P
Have a nice day.[/size]
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haha lol , in my main reply, I tried to explain that I am a beginner in Bitcoin Mixer, I asked in this topic how to use UniJoin in stages, starting from blah blah blah blah untill blah blah blah blah succes :P
The use of blah blah makes your post Spammy and arrogant, you can rather use any other more appealing and pleasant words.
Also learning about Bitcoin mixer or any other crypto currency related topics is not too hard, the issue is that individuals such as yourself jump into Bitcoin mixing even without prior or basic knowledge about what's it's all about.
A simple research can help you out and you won't be asking redundant questions. In a simple description if you want anonymity and privacy in your Bitcoin transactions then Bitcoin mixing is one of your best choices, this is ground base of it, then there are decentralised and centralised Bitcoin mixers (I believe you understand what's decentralised and centralised). Further more there are tons of Bitcoin mixing platforms you can then research on the one that interests you to learn more. You definitely have to put in the work by researching.
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I want to ask you again, can you give a tutorial on how to use UniJoin with Brave Browser?
It seems like others have found your questions a bit annoying.
I won't lie, most of the questions you've asked are stuff that everyone in the crypto realm should be aware of; if it was from a beginner account, they would have known that he had never used anything like this before.
At the conclusion of this post, I'll provide you a link to a tutorial, but first, I'd like to give you some advice.
Look for answers outside of this forum; it will save you a tonne of time, and you can always ask a question if you still can't find one. I also found the link I’ll share at the end of this post by just Googling for "tutorial on how to use brave browser to access.onion sites" in a case where I couldn’t get anything useful I’ll comeback and ask this community for solutions stating that I’ve already tried searching for it.
Here’s the link: https://youtu(.)be/QwLlhb77zzY?si=dh6TPFY91_VsHlkF
We are all here to assist each other learn, so I have no problem with you. If you have any questions or want to discuss anything Unijoin-related, you can always ask them here, and we would be pleased to contribute.
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Wait a minute , you're saying that the onion website is redirecting you to the clearnet site?
The error is on the clearnet site not on unijoinxaogdzmk3bonngoxxoaezkmsfdyrtfyximisungh2dnc2azad.onion
Thanks before , but this time already installed Tor Browser for check UniJoin and next time i'll try UniJoin with Tor Browser.
People who want to test onion addresses can also do it with Brave browser, since they are also supported and can be opened in new window.
haha lol , in my main reply, I tried to explain that I am a beginner in Bitcoin Mixer, I asked in this topic how to use UniJoin in stages, starting from blah blah blah blah untill blah blah blah blah succes :P
And now you also taught me that UniJoin is also very worth checking out in Brave Browser.
I want to ask you again, can you give a tutorial on how to use UniJoin with Brave Browser?
The reason is because according to you, Brave Browser has many features for UniJoin :P
For uniJoin you should use Brave browser. Using the Brave browser is the most secure and private, and comparatively less privacy if you use the Tor browser. In this case I recommend using Brave browser because you can safely use it.
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But I am back now, and yesterday, I did try visiting the UniJoin website using Tor browser, and it loaded pretty fast, my system is just as the same specification as his, windows 10, around 30 to 35 mbps internet speed, the only difference is that, mine is 8 gig ram instead of 4 gig as his is.
So, this is pointing to his system running app memory being too low, and I will suggest he consider increasing/upgrading it to something much bigger.
I don't think they can do anything about the speed so much, and it's fluctuates you can have a fast speed time at this moment and it could be a bit slow the next but Tor having problem with information speed is a draw back I won't consider paramount.
Tor is a more advanced Brower than normal browsers like brave.
I have always fancied Tor for Bitcoin mixing because it effectively blocks your IP address, to the extent the mixing site won't know your IP address in use, also the ISPN would have no idea of the site you are connected to, unlike on brave where ISPN would know the site you connected to.
I recommend Tor your actions would be untraceable.
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For uniJoin you should use Brave browser. Using the Brave browser is the most secure and private, and comparatively less privacy if you use the Tor browser. In this case I recommend using Brave browser because you can safely use it.
I never tested Brave Browser to access any Tor links but If privacy is a concern I agree that Brave Browser is better because Tor browser uses proxies to hide your IP, unlike Brave Browser which has a feature to hide IP and customize your privacy like fingerprint protection only if you know how you set up your brave browser.
The simple way is to open the private tab with Tor. The only problem that I noticed is that it is a bit slow compared to the Tor browser.
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In everything, privacy and security are two of the most important things, especially in transactions when you are using cryptocurrency. I found out about this UniJoin.io. It says that it is a unique platform that leverages the power of CoinJoin technology to enhance the privacy and security of Bitcoin transactions. By combining multiple transactions into one, CoinJoin creates a layer of anonymity and complexity that makes it difficult for outside observers to trace the origin of funds or identify specific individuals involved in a transaction. This sounds interesting to me.
The question is: What makes UniJoin.io unique compared to other Bitcoin mixer platforms?
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For uniJoin you should use Brave browser. Using the Brave browser is the most secure and private, and comparatively less privacy if you use the Tor browser. In this case I recommend using Brave browser because you can safely use it.
I never tested Brave Browser to access any Tor links but If privacy is a concern I agree that Brave Browser is better because Tor browser uses proxies to hide your IP, unlike Brave Browser which has a feature to hide IP and customize your privacy like fingerprint protection only if you know how you set up your brave browser.
We can always enable Tor in the Brave browser to hides your IP address from the site we visit especially when mixing on UniJoin.io. Brave is faster and safer for me compared to the Tor browser. We can always update our Brave browser version to the latest one(Version 1.61.120)
The simple way is to open the private tab with Tor. The only problem that I noticed is that it is a bit slow compared to the Tor browser.
Tor browser is very slow and it usually takes time to load and do other things compared to Brave browser that is extraordinarily faster. I have used Tor browser in many occasions and sometimes I could get frustrated the time it would take to load a single page. If your connection is not strong enough, that means it would take longer for it to connect. Tor requires stronger connection for things to go smoothly even after I downloaded other versions.
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For uniJoin you should use Brave browser. Using the Brave browser is the most secure and private, and comparatively less privacy if you use the Tor browser. In this case I recommend using Brave browser because you can safely use it.
Unijoin is integrated with Tor Browser. There is no problem to use Tor browser. You even can use VPN if you are not really sure with your privacy. Please check this https://unijoin.io/en/faq.
What makes UniJoin.io unique compared to other Bitcoin mixer platforms?
You can find out the answer by reading the explanation here https://unijoin.io/en/why-unijoin?
In general, Unijoin offers:
- Advanced technology
- Simple to Use
- Integrated with Tor Browser
- No Stored Logs
- Highest level of security & privacy
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I never tested Brave Browser to access any Tor links but If privacy is a concern I agree that Brave Browser is better because Tor browser uses proxies to hide your IP, unlike Brave Browser which has a feature to hide IP and customize your privacy like fingerprint protection only if you know how you set up your brave browser.
It's not better than Tor Browser and the ones saying that are the guys behind brave itself:
https://support.brave.com/hc/en-us/articles/360018121491-What-is-a-Private-Window-with-Tor-Connectivity
If your personal safety depends on remaining anonymous, we highly recommend using Tor Browser instead of Brave Tor windows.
Anyhow I really think that this tor discussion should happen in the technical part of the forum, I've tested right now the site with two instances of tor over win10 and fedora and switching like 20 circuits, the sites load fine, even on WM with 3gb allocated, so whatever issues one has they are not with the website.
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Tor browser is very slow and it usually takes time to load and do other things compared to Brave browser that is extraordinarily faster. I have used Tor browser in many occasions and sometimes I could get frustrated the time it would take to load a single page. If your connection is not strong enough, that means it would take longer for it to connect. Tor requires stronger connection for things to go smoothly even after I downloaded other versions.
Tor Browser may be slow but it's just a little price to pay for all the other benefits Tor Browser offers when it comes to being used for mixing.
You aren't completely anonymous using brave Browser because the mixing site can know which IP address you are using, this beats the real purpose of using a Bitcoin mixer in the first place which is to ensure an anonymous, private transactions.
In addition to that the ISPN the site you are connected to when using Tor browser unlike brave browser where it can compromise your private details.
You can use Browser on a windows 10 above PC and really not have a very made speed time, you priority should be anonymity and privacy.
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Tor browser is very slow and it usually takes time to load and do other things compared to Brave browser that is extraordinarily faster. I have used Tor browser on many occasions and sometimes I could get frustrated the time it would take to load a single page. If your connection is not strong enough, that means it would take longer for it to connect. Tor requires stronger connection for things to go smoothly even after I downloaded other versions.
Well mine have different experience I don't know why but Tor browser is a bit faster when accessing tor links.
It's not better than Tor Browser and the ones saying that are the guys behind brave itself:
https://support.brave.com/hc/en-us/articles/360018121491-What-is-a-Private-Window-with-Tor-Connectivity
If your personal safety depends on remaining anonymous, we highly recommend using Tor Browser instead of Brave Tor windows.
It seems I'm switching back to Tor I did a few several test on both browser using whoer.net it seems that Brave browser WebRTC is enabled unlike Tor browser they do have the same standard protection but it came up it detects the other IP due to WebRTC I tried few settings to disable WebRTC on the Brave browser but the result it can't disable it.
Another thing that I noticed it also detects my real-time(as system time) unlike in Tor browser it shows different time zone and system time.
The IP on the Brave browser have TOR name under the hostname. There are lots of disadvantage on the Brave browser after checking it from Whoer.
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There are some points based on trust, I mean regarding the storage of information, that it is destroyed. And if the cue ball mixing pool is “dirty”, does this affect something? As I understand it, they are also planning to make a mixer for altcoins, this will be more interesting to me
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There are some points based on trust, I mean regarding the storage of information, that it is destroyed. And if the cue ball mixing pool is “dirty”, does this affect something? As I understand it, they are also planning to make a mixer for altcoins, this will be more interesting to me
The mixer for altcoins is what I am personally waiting for, as this days, I hardly move bitcoins around, bitcoin is one of my major investment in crypto, so, I do not like spending it, and even if I wanted to, fees are sometimes a barrier, though fees have become low again, but I still prefer carrying out my day to day crypto transactions in altcoins, as there are altcoins that are still way cheaper in fees than bitcoin currently.
So, to me, it will be so nice to see and use unijoin altcoin mixers, doesn't have to provide support for every altcoin though, but atleast, they should provide support for some major altcoins, most especially stablecoins like usdt and Co.
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There are some points based on trust, I mean regarding the storage of information, that it is destroyed. And if the cue ball mixing pool is “dirty”, does this affect something? As I understand it, they are also planning to make a mixer for altcoins, this will be more interesting to me
The mixer for altcoins is what I am personally waiting for, as this days, I hardly move bitcoins around, bitcoin is one of my major investment in crypto, so, I do not like spending it, and even if I wanted to, fees are sometimes a barrier, though fees have become low again, but I still prefer carrying out my day to day crypto transactions in altcoins, as there are altcoins that are still way cheaper in fees than bitcoin currently.
So, to me, it will be so nice to see and use unijoin altcoin mixers, doesn't have to provide support for every altcoin though, but atleast, they should provide support for some major altcoins, most especially stablecoins like usdt and Co.
I think most people do the same, holding Bitcoin for a rainy day. That’s why you need a mixer like this to do it once and lose traces.But since stablecoins are used more often in everyday life, I think creating a mixer for altcoins is much more relevant.
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Bitcoin Mixer is basically a method where Bitcoins are traded from an anonymous source whose documents are untraceable and automatically deleted from the mixer after a certain period of time. I have never used any mixer in my life but recently I got to use a mixer and right now I will share my first mixer experience with you.
Unijoin is the mixer that I want to share with you and highlight all the positives about Unijoin in my review. This is a mixer system that has spread its popularity all over the world and the announcement of this mixer has been translated into more than 7/8 languages. This mixer is so popular with people that even though negative comments about mixers are spread all over the world, positive comments are always heard about Unijoin.
You don't have to pay extra fees under this mixer whereas other mixers have heard complaints of extra fees but no complaints of extra fees have been heard so far with this Unijoin mixer. Fees in this Unijoin mixer are approximately 1%-3% which is much lower than other mixers. However, network fees are expected to be lower in special cases.
From my personal experience I don't know the minimum mixing amount of this mixer so far but from the website of Unijoin mixer I found that the minimum mixing amount of this mixer is 0.001BTC which is much less than other mixers. However, the maximum amount of bitcoins that can be mixed has not been limited so far, but the amount that can be mixed has been kept unlimited. However, mixing less than the minimum amount may automatically cancel the mixing process.
But the pre-condition for mixing is to keep my address completely anonymous and basically mix to protect my safety and privacy. This Unijoin mixing process is fully committed to protecting user security and privacy. At the beginning of this mixing, the process of setting the recipient address is started, but there is also the process of automatically adding the method of sending to multiple addresses. Unijoin is committed to providing full guarantee mixing from one address to multiple addresses with complete anonymous management and privacy protection.
One of the interesting things about unijoin mixer is its warranty especially for sending it must provide a warranty where a user can rest assured. I doubt if these things can give a unique mixer but this mixer gives the user guaranteed mixing which is really amazing.
http://unijoin.io/en/order/D5Ju0myP5kecXwI
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So, to me, it will be so nice to see and use unijoin altcoin mixers, doesn't have to provide support for every altcoin though, but atleast, they should provide support for some major altcoins, most especially stablecoins like usdt and Co.
If I recall correctly, I remember Icopress stating that he has been in contact with the team and has discussed this with them – but a date is yet to be announced but from the look of things it will happen sooner than we expect [within this year].
I found the post.
I talked about this several times with the UniJoin team and, as far as I can tell, we are talking about June-July.
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Bitcoin Mixer is basically a method where Bitcoins are traded from an anonymous source whose documents are untraceable and automatically deleted from the mixer after a certain period of time. I have never used any mixer in my life but recently I got to use a mixer and right now I will share my first mixer experience with you.
Unijoin is the mixer that I want to share with you and highlight all the positives about Unijoin in my review. This is a mixer system that has spread its popularity all over the world and the announcement of this mixer has been translated into more than 7/8 languages. This mixer is so popular with people that even though negative comments about mixers are spread all over the world, positive comments are always heard about Unijoin.
You don't have to pay extra fees under this mixer whereas other mixers have heard complaints of extra fees but no complaints of extra fees have been heard so far with this Unijoin mixer. Fees in this Unijoin mixer are approximately 1%-3% which is much lower than other mixers. However, network fees are expected to be lower in special cases.
From my personal experience I don't know the minimum mixing amount of this mixer so far but from the website of Unijoin mixer I found that the minimum mixing amount of this mixer is 0.001BTC which is much less than other mixers. However, the maximum amount of bitcoins that can be mixed has not been limited so far, but the amount that can be mixed has been kept unlimited. However, mixing less than the minimum amount may automatically cancel the mixing process.
But the pre-condition for mixing is to keep my address completely anonymous and basically mix to protect my safety and privacy. This Unijoin mixing process is fully committed to protecting user security and privacy. At the beginning of this mixing, the process of setting the recipient address is started, but there is also the process of automatically adding the method of sending to multiple addresses. Unijoin is committed to providing full guarantee mixing from one address to multiple addresses with complete anonymous management and privacy protection.
One of the interesting things about unijoin mixer is its warranty especially for sending it must provide a warranty where a user can rest assured. I doubt if these things can give a unique mixer but this mixer gives the user guaranteed mixing which is really amazing.
http://unijoin.io/en/order/D5Ju0myP5kecXwI
majority of people here or interested in this thread has some idea of bitcoin mixing and even if they don't i think that an easy Google search can help and will give them at least little briefing about what it is.
i want to believe this is your review on Unijoin mixer? but honestly you weren't able to explain much about Unijoin functionalities or simply how it works. i think you are learning about the mixing platform yourself.
it would have been more interesting if you give in details some of the features you used on this mixer already, how swift was the transaction process, what were the complications you experienced? in general just give a more detailed review.
Just my 2 satoshi on your post
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So, to me, it will be so nice to see and use unijoin altcoin mixers, doesn't have to provide support for every altcoin though, but atleast, they should provide support for some major altcoins, most especially stablecoins like usdt and Co.
If I recall correctly, I remember Icopress stating that he has been in contact with the team and has discussed this with them – but a date is yet to be announced but from the look of things it will happen sooner than we expect [within this year].
I found the post.
I talked about this several times with the UniJoin team and, as far as I can tell, we are talking about June-July.
Thank you very much for this information, i cant wait for this to come through, i am on the unijoin website right now and i can see that they listed some altcoins in their header, but have the "SOON" tag on them all.
By the way, i have rather a noob question which i wanna ask, just to be sure and possibly avoid making any regretable mistakes out of ignorance.
Can i mix a coin directly to an exchange?
Like, in the box provided for me to input my recieving address for mixed coins, is it safe to input an exchange wallet address there, so as to receive my mixed coins directly on my exchange account?, or is it better to first recieve the mixed coin on my private wallet, before i move it to the exchange if i want to sell it?
Thank you to anyone who helps with answer to this enquiry.
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By the way, i have rather a noob question which i wanna ask, just to be sure and possibly avoid making any regretable mistakes out of ignorance.
Can i mix a coin directly to an exchange?
Like, in the box provided for me to input my recieving address for mixed coins, is it safe to input an exchange wallet address there, so as to receive my mixed coins directly on my exchange account?, or is it better to first recieve the mixed coin on my private wallet, before i move it to the exchange if i want to sell it?
Do you mean a KYC regulated CEX like Binance/Coinbase? I'd avoid doing it personally, as their algo/bot is likely to detect the transaction and consider it suspicious. In that case, you'd probably have to provide justification for the source of the funds, which would be complex.
I'd use a "buffer" wallet instead, between the mixer and the exchange.
Instead of a KYCed CEX, it might be best to use P2P like Agoradesk or Peachbitcoin if your local fiat currency is available. At least you won't have any problems. If you're looking for a KYC-free crypto swap, there's eXch which is fine.
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Unijoin use CoinJoin technology that provides the highest quality and most optimized method of mixing. It specializes on simplicity. In just a few steps you can achieve anonymity with cryptos. Plus our privacy is priority, That’s why it’s important for us to not jeopardize it by storing logs and we cab use Tor browser to achieve the highest level of anonymity.
This Bitcoin mixer offers a lot of benefits to take advantage of like break all links to your crypto finances and your activities and gain complete anonymity, no links can be created, we can anonymize our coins without creating an account plus maximum anonymity, all logs are deleted once your crypto mixing order is completed. At the top of the list of these benefits is user privacy and anonymity. UniJoin’s impressive features conceal users’ transaction history, granting them financial privacy. UniJoin also provides greater financial freedom by allowing users to avoid censorship and similar restrictions.
Unijoin is an essential aspect of user education is knowing the tools that can help navigate the complexities of the crypto landscape and the related regulations. Also it allows crypto users to invest in cryptocurrencies in restricted countries, securely store funds in their digital wallets anonymously, shop online, and transfer funds to other users without being traced by third-party individuals.
Unijoin is a legitimate service, and its use minimizes the risk of legitimate users being linked to illegal activities.
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By the way, i have rather a noob question which i wanna ask, just to be sure and possibly avoid making any regretable mistakes out of ignorance.
Can i mix a coin directly to an exchange?
Like, in the box provided for me to input my recieving address for mixed coins, is it safe to input an exchange wallet address there, so as to receive my mixed coins directly on my exchange account?, or is it better to first recieve the mixed coin on my private wallet, before i move it to the exchange if i want to sell it?
Sure you can, you can put any valid address as your receiving address.
Is it good? I don't think so, centralized exchanges can confiscate mixed or CoinJoined funds, so you run the risk of your funds being locked up by an exchange if you do this, and you may never be able to recover your funds if it happens. That's because they will probably request for informations that you will be reluctant to give, and you could even provide what they ask and they won't still release your funds.
Use your self custodial wallet to receive mixed funds, and you may even have to move the funds around addresses you own, before depositing it into a centralized exchange, or you better use a p2p exchange to avoid all the trouble: https://kycnot.me/?type=exchange
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Can i mix a coin directly to an exchange?
Using mixers and using CEX doesn't make much sense, it's almost contradictory. And it can even be risky, as Z-tight explained.
Unijoin use CoinJoin technology that provides the highest quality and most optimized method of mixing. It specializes on simplicity. In just a few steps you can achieve anonymity with cryptos. Plus our privacy is priority, That’s why it’s important for us to not jeopardize it by storing logs and we cab use Tor browser to achieve the highest level of anonymity.
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What is the reason for this plagiarism? I'm going to find out what the plagiarism rules are on this forum, but simply writing what can be found on the Unijoin.io website without quoting and changing a few words doesn't look good to me.
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By the way, i have rather a noob question which i wanna ask, just to be sure and possibly avoid making any regretable mistakes out of ignorance.
Can i mix a coin directly to an exchange?
Like, in the box provided for me to input my recieving address for mixed coins, is it safe to input an exchange wallet address there, so as to receive my mixed coins directly on my exchange account?, or is it better to first recieve the mixed coin on my private wallet, before i move it to the exchange if i want to sell it?
Thank you to anyone who helps with answer to this enquiry.
Remember the Sinbad episode when campaign participants were getting their payments directly in the Binance accounts and how it triggered an instant verification?
It's always risky to do, but, and again this is not advice, I have sent by mistake once and by pure curiosity the other time funds from mixing directly to Bitstamp and Binance, freshly mixed at that time from CM and 2 years later and all the drama on that mixer and I still haven't had a single issue, and I'm not the only one , there were at least 3 participants in CM that have stated on doing the same!
BUT! It was a mistake on my part and then just a test with a few $, so I would advise anyone to not try it , especially since things have changed, A LOT!
If fees are a problem, and I can understand that try to use at least one-two hop address before that, as most bots are just stupid and ignore further history and make only fragmented payments!, as you can deny you're the owner of the main address and that you have just received a payment, but...
Mixing funds and then dumping them directly in an address already used before and tied to your name and ID card...what's the point? ;D
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Sure you can, you can put any valid address as your receiving address.
Is it good? I don't think so, centralized exchanges can confiscate mixed or CoinJoined funds, so you run the risk of your funds being locked up by an exchange if you do this, and you may never be able to recover your funds if it happens. That's because they will probably request for informations that you will be reluctant to give, and you could even provide what they ask and they won't still release your funds.
Use your self custodial wallet to receive mixed funds, and you may even have to move the funds around addresses you own, before depositing it into a centralized exchange, or you better use a p2p exchange to avoid all the trouble: https://kycnot.me/?type=exchange
It's contradictory using a Bitcoin mixer and the purpose of you choosing to use a mixer is to avoid your privacy being opened to the public only to later provide a centralised exchange address for receiving funds from your mixing platform.
There won't be a need using a mixer if at the end stage you use centralised exchange address because using a centralised means KYC exchange were you are not anonymous anymore or it is not guaranteed and we have seen exchanges like Binance freezing users funds, putting them through stressful process to release them later on if at all.
Like you rightly said a self custodial wallet is the best option for anyone using a mixing platform, there is more knowledge to get before using a Bitcoin mixer I urge newbies not to rush into it.
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OK, thank you every who contributed to answering my noob query, appreciate ya all.
I also thought the idea of mixing bitcoin directly to the exchange was risky, but I just needed to be really sure since the coins I wanna test the unijoin mixer with is some small part of my bitcoin I decided to sell and withdraw the money in cash..
So, I was thinking of mixing directly to the exchange so as not pay another fees to send the coins to the exchange, but from all I've learnt here, I now know it's a bad idea, so I will just do it the normal way, mix to a newly created bitcoin wallet, then send to exchange from there, better safe than sorry :D.
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By the way, i have rather a noob question which i wanna ask, just to be sure and possibly avoid making any regretable mistakes out of ignorance. Can i mix a coin directly to an exchange?
Mixing a coin and sending it to an exchange directly is a dead trap. Any attempt could lead to the freezing of the coin. Exchange would want to know why you decided to mixed the coin before sending it to there platform. You would have series of questions to answer on what prompted you to mix the coin because they too as an exchange would want to avoid and government pressure on them for allowing mixed coin to pass through there exchange mostly if it's a suspicious fund. The influence of the government on cryptocurrency is slightly becoming an issue and our privacy is no longer assured like it used to be.
Like, in the box provided for me to input my recieving address for mixed coins, is it safe to input an exchange wallet address there, so as to receive my mixed coins directly on my exchange account?,
You can always put any wallet address but must not be the one from exchange to prevent your fund getting freezed.
or is it better to first recieve the mixed coin on my private wallet, before i move it to the exchange if i want to sell it?
There are different ways you can sell your coin and you mustn't go to a centralized exchange before you sell it. There are different individuals that would like to buy the coin although the price might be a bit lower than selling on exchanges.
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There are different ways you can sell your coin and you mustn't go to a centralized exchange before you sell it. There are different individuals that would like to buy the coin although the price might be a bit lower than selling on exchanges.
If you want to trade your coins p2p, then you should do it in a p2p exchange and not just with individuals you meet on social media or anywhere else, because it could be very risky. For better privacy and security, use p2p exchanges like bisq or Agoradesk, where you don’t have to give out your data or risk your funds being confiscated.
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OK, thank you every who contributed to answering my noob query, appreciate ya all.
I also thought the idea of mixing bitcoin directly to the exchange was risky, but I just needed to be really sure since the coins I wanna test the unijoin mixer with is some small part of my bitcoin I decided to sell and withdraw the money in cash..
So, I was thinking of mixing directly to the exchange so as not pay another fees to send the coins to the exchange, but from all I've learnt here, I now know it's a bad idea, so I will just do it the normal way, mix to a newly created bitcoin wallet, then send to exchange from there, better safe than sorry :D.
Yes mate it's better to be safe than to regret your actions, I think paying some fees should not be the reason you decided to jeopardize your privacy and anonymity, so it's advisable to mix the right way. Also cheers that you asked questions because that's how we all learn.
In addition also be safe on which exchange you choose to transact with, Z tight has giving some good option like Agrodesk or bisq this are good decentralised exchanges that you can use and they would ensure your anonymity and privacy are kept. Ask further questions if you have any problems.
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Remember the Sinbad episode when campaign participants were getting their payments directly in the Binance accounts and how it triggered an instant verification?
I dont know who did that, but it was not very smart thing to do, it was lazy and maybe they contributed in quicker shutdown and locating of that mixer.
It takes only a few minutes to download and install your own bitcoin wallet, and you dont have to ask anyone for permission to receive, withdraw or sent coins to any address.
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Unijoin use CoinJoin technology that provides the highest quality and most optimized method of mixing. It specializes on simplicity. In just a few steps you can achieve anonymity with cryptos. Plus our privacy is priority, That’s why it’s important for us to not jeopardize it by storing logs and we cab use Tor browser to achieve the highest level of anonymity.
This Bitcoin mixer offers a lot of benefits to take advantage of like break all links to your crypto finances and your activities and gain complete anonymity, no links can be created, we can anonymize our coins without creating an account plus maximum anonymity, all logs are deleted once your crypto mixing order is completed. At the top of the list of these benefits is user privacy and anonymity. UniJoin’s impressive features conceal users’ transaction history, granting them financial privacy. UniJoin also provides greater financial freedom by allowing users to avoid censorship and similar restrictions.
Unijoin is an essential aspect of user education is knowing the tools that can help navigate the complexities of the crypto landscape and the related regulations. Also it allows crypto users to invest in cryptocurrencies in restricted countries, securely store funds in their digital wallets anonymously, shop online, and transfer funds to other users without being traced by third-party individuals.
Unijoin is a legitimate service, and its use minimizes the risk of legitimate users being linked to illegal activities.
If the Unijoin mixing service uses CoinJoin technology which you claimed was standard in the mixing ecosystem. As someone who is looking for a mixing platform that will provide at least 90% privacy for my Bitcoin is there a cons I should know?
There was a time I read that the use of CoinJoin is almost like a TOR browser if not set up properly the needed anonymity won't be achieved. Is this true? If yes, how can someone like me who's new in the space of crypto mixing get the needed privacy when using UniJoin?
I would also like to know the difference between Jambler and CoinJoin service.
I ask this question cause I learned about a certain Bitcoin mixing days ago which is a partner of Jambler.
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Remember the Sinbad episode when campaign participants were getting their payments directly in the Binance accounts and how it triggered an instant verification?
I dont know who did that, but it was not very smart thing to do, it was lazy and maybe they contributed in quicker shutdown and locating of that mixer.
It takes only a few minutes to download and install your own bitcoin wallet, and you dont have to ask anyone for permission to receive, withdraw or sent coins to any address.
I don't think it's about who did it, it was just the participants in the sinbad signature ad campaign who filled in their binance btc address as their payment receiving address, that I believe have nothing to do with the campaign manager, and I wouldnt blame the participants who did that either, because in times when bitcoin transactions fees get too high, and you are going to be selling your bitcoin when you receive them, it's better to receive that bitcoin directly to the exchange, so as to avoid spending extra fund moving the same bitcoin to the exchange.
And actually, that practice did not contribute to any quicker shut down of the mixer or what so ever, the mixer had already been seized and shut down before binance began investing the bitcoin address that held the fund for the mixer's campaign participants, as well as addresses that received funds from that address.
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I don't think it's about who did it, it was just the participants in the sinbad signature ad campaign who filled in their binance btc address as their payment receiving address, that I believe have nothing to do with the campaign manager, and I wouldnt blame the participants who did that either, because in times when bitcoin transactions fees get too high, and you are going to be selling your bitcoin when you receive them, it's better to receive that bitcoin directly to the exchange, so as to avoid spending extra fund moving the same bitcoin to the exchange.
No it's not.
If you want to be dumb and use binance exchange to save few dollars on fees you are free to do it, but dont recommend other people as a better way.
You are not counting that exchanges are charging high fees each time you need to withdraw bitcoin, and you dont own bitcoin on exchanges.
I cant believe someone is promoting that mixers should be connected with kyc exchanges, there is no point in using mixers than.
And actually, that practice did not contribute to any quicker shut down of the mixer or what so ever, the mixer had already been seized and shut down before binance began investing the bitcoin address that held the fund for the mixer's campaign participants, as well as addresses that received funds from that address.
It did contributed because binance is directly connected with analytics companies, and they probably reported it first.
You could send coins directly to them instead :P
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And actually, that practice did not contribute to any quicker shut down of the mixer or what so ever, the mixer had already been seized and shut down before binance began investing the bitcoin address that held the fund for the mixer's campaign participants, as well as addresses that received funds from that address.
It did contributed because binance is directly connected with analytics companies, and they probably reported it first.
You could send coins directly to them instead :P
I was in the Sinbad campaign, and to receive the payment, I used my self-custody wallet. I sent these funds to Binance a couple of times (so not directly from the Sinbad address, but from mine) and I did not receive any requests for additional explanations about the origin of the funds. Therefore, only transactions directly from sinbad>binance were critical.
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There was a time I read that the use of CoinJoin is almost like a TOR browser if not set up properly the needed anonymity won't be achieved. Is this true? If yes, how can someone like me who's new in the space of crypto mixing get the needed privacy when using UniJoin?
Take note that CoinJoin implementation and Tor browser are two different things. However, you can access Unijoin through Tor, when you use their onion link, and using Tor is always a better alternative for privacy reasons.
When you use Unijoin, it is important that you use a new address as your receiving address, using a used address to receive mixed funds defeats the purpose of mixing in the first place. You should also set your delay time for receiving coins to be very random and use multiple addresses when receiving funds, dividing them into smaller chunks with varying receiving times.
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I think most people do the same, holding Bitcoin for a rainy day. That’s why you need a mixer like this to do it once and lose traces.But since stablecoins are used more often in everyday life, I think creating a mixer for altcoins is much more relevant.
As you probably noticed, Unijoin has plans to add mixing for altcoins like ETH, LTC, and USDT. So we can only wait for it to appear on the Unijoin site. Personally, I think that LTC mixing may be popular because the LTC network has the MWEB feature, but at the same time, I am somehow skeptical about USDT mixing because the smart contract of this stablecoin allows Tether to blacklist any addresses.
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I think most people do the same, holding Bitcoin for a rainy day. That’s why you need a mixer like this to do it once and lose traces.But since stablecoins are used more often in everyday life, I think creating a mixer for altcoins is much more relevant.
As you probably noticed, Unijoin has plans to add mixing for altcoins like ETH, LTC, and USDT. So we can only wait for it to appear on the Unijoin site. Personally, I think that LTC mixing may be popular because the LTC network has the MWEB feature, but at the same time, I am somehow skeptical about USDT mixing because the smart contract of this stablecoin allows Tether to blacklist any addresses.
You are completely right about USDT, the ability of/for tether to freeze usdt in users wallet is no longer news or a speculation as I believe that many of us here have seen them do this countless of times to some crypto users mostly scammers and hackers.
So, I was also wondering how unijoin will mix usdt without arousing suspicions from tether, and this could pose a big problem for the receiving wallet as tether could freeze the funds and ask to owner to provide the source where the funds were gotten from, this has a far more chances of happening if the fund in question is large.
This is just a speculation though, and I do hope that unijoin will come out with a clear explanation to users on how safe it is to mix usdt before or when the mixer is launched.
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I think most people do the same, holding Bitcoin for a rainy day. That’s why you need a mixer like this to do it once and lose traces.But since stablecoins are used more often in everyday life, I think creating a mixer for altcoins is much more relevant.
As you probably noticed, Unijoin has plans to add mixing for altcoins like ETH, LTC, and USDT. So we can only wait for it to appear on the Unijoin site. Personally, I think that LTC mixing may be popular because the LTC network has the MWEB feature, but at the same time, I am somehow skeptical about USDT mixing because the smart contract of this stablecoin allows Tether to blacklist any addresses.
I like the idea of having a mixer that will provide service for ETH after the arrest of the Tornado Cash owner and the blacklist of their website.
Out of curiosity, is there a link to the Unijoin announcement regarding the creation of a mixing service that will support ETH, LTC, and USDT?
Because the last time I checked Tether had frozen at least a 500Million USD worth of USDT to assist law enforcement authorities with a money laundering case so I think it will be hard for a crypto mixer to avoid the same scenario unless there's a decentralized stablecoin they can add to their service.
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I was in the Sinbad campaign, and to receive the payment, I used my self-custody wallet. I sent these funds to Binance a couple of times (so not directly from the Sinbad address, but from mine) and I did not receive any requests for additional explanations about the origin of the funds. Therefore, only transactions directly from sinbad>binance were critical.
They could blacklist any address they want and sending anything from that address to exchange would trigger automatic alert on their system, that could freeze your account.
I think Unijoin is smarter with addresses than other banned mixer you mentioned and they wont get connected with notorious hackers group.
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I think most people do the same, holding Bitcoin for a rainy day. That’s why you need a mixer like this to do it once and lose traces.But since stablecoins are used more often in everyday life, I think creating a mixer for altcoins is much more relevant.
As you probably noticed, Unijoin has plans to add mixing for altcoins like ETH, LTC, and USDT. So we can only wait for it to appear on the Unijoin site. Personally, I think that LTC mixing may be popular because the LTC network has the MWEB feature, but at the same time, I am somehow skeptical about USDT mixing because the smart contract of this stablecoin allows Tether to blacklist any addresses.
I like the idea of having a mixer that will provide service for ETH after the arrest of the Tornado Cash owner and the blacklist of their website.
Out of curiosity, is there a link to the Unijoin announcement regarding the creation of a mixing service that will support ETH, LTC, and USDT?
Because the last time I checked Tether had frozen at least a 500Million USD worth of USDT to assist law enforcement authorities with a money laundering case so I think it will be hard for a crypto mixer to avoid the same scenario unless there's a decentralized stablecoin they can add to their service.
I am Also impressed too, although I am a core Bitcoin enthusiast but still I think crypto is an open space and everyone is free to explore the varieties of coins available, and Ethereum is arguably the next most famous crypto coin aside Bitcoin.
I think this offer would increase the adoption of cryptocurrency because there are holders of altcoins who are looking for ways to perform anonymous transactions and. A mixing services that supports those altcoin would make their lives easier for them.
But do you think that there may be some negative side as we know performing transactions on the Ethereum network fees are very high here, would the fees using an Ethereum mixer be even higher than it's normal transactions? If so people can just convert to Bitcoin and mix the Bitcoin.
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Remember the Sinbad episode when campaign participants were getting their payments directly in the Binance accounts and how it triggered an instant verification?
I dont know who did that, but it was not very smart thing to do, it was lazy and maybe they contributed in quicker shutdown and locating of that mixer.
It takes only a few minutes to download and install your own bitcoin wallet, and you dont have to ask anyone for permission to receive, withdraw or sent coins to any address.
I don't think it's about who did it, it was just the participants in the sinbad signature ad campaign who filled in their binance btc address as their payment receiving address, that I believe have nothing to do with the campaign manager, and I wouldnt blame the participants who did that either, because in times when bitcoin transactions fees get too high, and you are going to be selling your bitcoin when you receive them, it's better to receive that bitcoin directly to the exchange, so as to avoid spending extra fund moving the same bitcoin to the exchange.
You see, that's the problem!
Treating a signature campaign as your weekly and monthly wage, relying on that entirely so that you're forced to sell it every time and not even affording a fee hop!
Not only that, but there are numerous times exchanges have changed the deposit address for accounts sometime seven without notifying the users, so you could have lost a payment just because you kept the old address there and didn't know it's not valid anymore!
Stop treating an exchange you have no clue where it's headquartered and that answers you only with an AI chat bot to your enquires like a bank, and do what bitcoin was supposed to be, your own damn bank in the first place!
I like the idea of having a mixer that will provide service for ETH after the arrest of the Tornado Cash owner and the blacklist of their website.
Because the last time I checked Tether had frozen at least a 500Million USD worth of USDT to assist law enforcement authorities with a money laundering case so I think it will be hard for a crypto mixer to avoid the same scenario unless there's a decentralized stablecoin they can add to their service.
You can still use Tornado Cash to mix your coins, the smart contract is still active, the problem is exchanges refusing coins labeled coming from there, which will be the same pain in the ass for USDT in case of a mixer. Since this is a centralized protocol, all the coins are issued by them, they can control everything, I don't really see the point in trying to mix them, it's a bit asking for trouble, probably the reason why everybody stayed out of it to this point.
ETH and LTC yeah, nice addition, USDT...not really sold on the idea!
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You can still use Tornado Cash to mix your coins, the smart contract is still active, the problem is exchanges refusing coins labeled coming from there, which will be the same pain in the ass for USDT in case of a mixer.
Best solution for this is switching to decentralized exchanges and doing p2p trading.
Otherwise they can just invent new reasons some day to block transactions because you said or posted something against government online and they just blacklist your known addresses, or if you refused obey them in any way.
Social credit system plus CBDC means they can simply switch you off from everything.
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Does anyone have any idea how I should do it if I want to send satoshis that I have in a mobile wallet to Unijoin.io to receive them in my addresses that I manage with HW from my computer?
The other time I mixed some coins but from my computer with HW to my computer, using Tor to access Unijoin.io. If I want to try with my mobile I don't know what I should use, as I don't use anything similar to Tor and I understand that on mobile it's not so private.
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I don't think it's about who did it, it was just the participants in the sinbad signature ad campaign who filled in their binance btc address as their payment receiving address, that I believe have nothing to do with the campaign manager, and I wouldnt blame the participants who did that either, because in times when bitcoin transactions fees get too high, and you are going to be selling your bitcoin when you receive them, it's better to receive that bitcoin directly to the exchange, so as to avoid spending extra fund moving the same bitcoin to the exchange.
No it's not.
If you want to be dumb and use binance exchange to save few dollars on fees you are free to do it, but dont recommend other people as a better way.
You are not counting that exchanges are charging high fees each time you need to withdraw bitcoin, and you dont own bitcoin on exchanges.
I cant believe someone is promoting that mixers should be connected with kyc exchanges, there is no point in using mixers than.
Sorry but may be you read and try to comprehend well before replying, I never did recommend anybody use a centralized exchange for receiving payment for whatever service they render, and I was also not promoting that mixers be connected to centralized exchanges either, what or all I said was based on what I saw other people do, and the reasons they gave for doing it.
You can only speak for yourself, not for other persons who were also promoting sinbad before it got seized and brought down, I know 3 users who were receiving payment for their sinbad signature ad campaign directly to their binance account, do you want me to mention their names? Or show you our chat to confirm? Of course I won't do any of that, but just so you know, that I know what I said when I said what I said.
I wasn't advising or encouraging any body to receive their Payment directly to a centralized exchange, or connect a kyc exchange to a mixer, like I've said, before, what I said was based on what some of the participants in that campaign did, and what they said was their reason for doing it.
And actually, that practice did not contribute to any quicker shut down of the mixer or what so ever, the mixer had already been seized and shut down before binance began investing the bitcoin address that held the fund for the mixer's campaign participants, as well as addresses that received funds from that address.
It did contributed because binance is directly connected with analytics companies, and they probably reported it first.
You could send coins directly to them instead :P
I still Stand on that which I said, probability is not certainty, and when you are not certain about something, using the word "probably" simply means you are not sure something is truth or false, and in such situation, what which we saw and are able to confirm, becomes the truth.
Sinbad was seized and shut down before binance announced that they were investigating the wallet that held funds for their campaign participants.
Believe it or not, this is what I know.
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Does anyone have any idea how I should do it if I want to send satoshis that I have in a mobile wallet to Unijoin.io to receive them in my addresses that I manage with HW from my computer?
The other time I mixed some coins but from my computer with HW to my computer, using Tor to access Unijoin.io. If I want to try with my mobile I don't know what I should use, as I don't use anything similar to Tor and I understand that on mobile it's not so private.
Well, I think tor does have a mobile version which you can download from Google play store if you use Android, not sure about iPhone since I don't use iPhone, but you search the iPhone app store to see if it's listed there as well.
So if you are downloading tor for Android, then you will also have to download orbot, since both apps work together, orbot is a VPN app from tor, it's free and works very well, you could select any app on your phone to connect to the VPN, for example, your Browser, and only that will access the VPN service.
So, if you want to use your mobile phone to mix coins on unijoin, i believe you know it will still work without tor, as I have tried it myself, but like you said, you want it so private, then I recommend using orbot alongside tor, for total privacy, just connect your orbot VPN to your tor Browser.
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I wasn't advising or encouraging any body to receive their Payment directly to a centralized exchange, or connect a kyc exchange to a mixer, like I've said, before, what I said was based on what some of the participants in that campaign did, and what they said was their reason for doing it.
Yeah it is risky imo, and avoidable. A lot of risks are unnecessarily added with centralized exchanges.
This conversation is a good opportunity to share a very interesting article from Unijoin: Differences between CEXs and DEXs (https://unijoin.medium.com/why-choose-decentralized-exchanges-894b3d4e279e)
When an exchange is licensed, it imposes not only its internal rules but also those of government. Centralized, licensed exchanges introduce at least six unnecessary risks to their customers: the possible dishonesty of an exchange, bad actors from outside, identity theft, incompetence, collapse, and affiliation with government. Some risks come from being centralized; some come from being licensed.
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As you probably noticed, Unijoin has plans to add mixing for altcoins like ETH, LTC, and USDT. So we can only wait for it to appear on the Unijoin site. Personally, I think that LTC mixing may be popular because the LTC network has the MWEB feature, but at the same time, I am somehow skeptical about USDT mixing because the smart contract of this stablecoin allows Tether to blacklist any addresses.
That's it, so we are going to have more preferences that fit to us. What I am wondering is also about the fee that will be offered, probably this will be different. because commonly those three coins have fewer fee transaction.
However, recently many people have asked about the possibility of other coins. and UniJoin will soon make it happen.
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I wasn't advising or encouraging any body to receive their Payment directly to a centralized exchange, or connect a kyc exchange to a mixer, like I've said, before, what I said was based on what some of the participants in that campaign did, and what they said was their reason for doing it.
Yeah it is risky imo, and avoidable. A lot of risks are unnecessarily added with centralized exchanges.
This conversation is a good opportunity to share a very interesting article from Unijoin: Differences between CEXs and DEXs (https://unijoin.medium.com/why-choose-decentralized-exchanges-894b3d4e279e)
When an exchange is licensed, it imposes not only its internal rules but also those of government. Centralized, licensed exchanges introduce at least six unnecessary risks to their customers: the possible dishonesty of an exchange, bad actors from outside, identity theft, incompetence, collapse, and affiliation with government. Some risks come from being centralized; some come from being licensed.
Unfortunately it's like that. Usually when it is a CEX that is under governmental law and regulation, then if there are coins deposited from a wallet that they think is suspicious, then they will suspend the deposit. And in the end we have to bother taking care of them because we have to do it by contacting their live support and following the procedure. So to anticipate this, it's better to go to a DEX or personal wallet first, then if you want to transfer it to an exchange for certain reasons, you can continue.
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They already mentioned something, but unless it is an emergency, download Tor, which is available for Android or Apple (OrNET + TOR VPN):https://apps.apple.com/es/app/tor-browser-ornet-tor-vpn/id1177964608
Although, in my case, I would hope to be able to do it on my laptop/desktop.
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Sorry but may be you read and try to comprehend well before replying
OK, let me repeat exactly what you wrote:
it's better to receive that bitcoin directly to the exchange, so as to avoid spending extra fund moving the same bitcoin to the exchange.
This is recommendation written by you, and you clearly say that is is better to receive coins from mixer directly to exchange because of fees :o
Now I will say again that this stupid, and I explained why in my previous post.
Now lets get back on Unijoin topic.
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The review is in the process of being edited.
UniJoin.io review
Introductions:
Mixing:
Type: one address
Fee: randomly generated ( My randomly generated fee is 1.9175%)
Delay: 2h09m
Step 1:
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Step 2:
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At this stage, we can:
- add up to 8 addresses* with the button (+ Add New
Address). - enter your Unicode**
- select a time delay (up to 72 hours)
*Only Bitcoin Main-net
addresses are supported. Don't
worry, the form will tell you if you
have entered an invalid address.
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Your UniCode is optional, once you
place your first order you will receive
your UniCode automatically.
UniCode is your defense against getting your own coins after mixing.
Step 3:
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Read the terms and conditions carefully and agree to them if you agree. Detailed terms and conditions: https://unijoin.io/en/terms-and-conditions
Step 4:
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At this point we need to send our coins to the address provided. + You can save your UniCode.
After you send your coins, you will see a display on the order page:
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At this stage, also remember to download your letter of guarantee (It's mandatory.
Step 5:
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At this step you can keep track of the time after which you will receive your cleared coins.
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Step 6:
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Once the mixing is done, the order link is no longer available.
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AML Check:
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After that, I sent the funds I received to one of the cryptocurrency exchanges. Everything went smoothly ;D
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Sorry but may be you read and try to comprehend well before replying
OK, let me repeat exactly what you wrote:
it's better to receive that bitcoin directly to the exchange, so as to avoid spending extra fund moving the same bitcoin to the exchange.
This is recommendation written by you, and you clearly say that is is better to receive coins from mixer directly to exchange because of fees :o
Now I will say again that this stupid, and I explained why in my previous post.
Now lets get back on Unijoin topic.
This conversation looks very interesting dude!
Well, I have seen someone that spent not less than $2k or even more on transaction fee to move Bitcoin from one wallet to the other. Although the reason was never clear to me but I know the amount was huge. Many investors are still holding there Bitcoin because of high network fee.
it's better to receive that bitcoin directly to the exchange, so as to avoid spending extra fund moving the same bitcoin to the exchange.
No, dude! This is very wrong and that mistake should never happens. Why would you mix a coin and send it to an exchange just because of the high network fee? Apart from the unfortunate thing that could happen making the exchange to freeze the coin and asking you critical questions on why you decided to mix the coin before depositing, your data can be traced without any stress.
High network fee should not make us make decisions that would erase our main motive of mixing a coin. It would be juvenile if we mix a coin and send it to an exchange(centralized) for trade.
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it's better to receive that bitcoin directly to the exchange, so as to avoid spending extra fund moving the same bitcoin to the exchange.
No, dude! This is very wrong and that mistake should never happens. Why would you mix a coin and send it to an exchange just because of the high network fee? Apart from the unfortunate thing that could happen making the exchange to freeze the coin and asking you critical questions on why you decided to mix the coin before depositing, your data can be traced without any stress.
High network fee should not make us make decisions that would erase our main motive of mixing a coin. It would be juvenile if we mix a coin and send it to an exchange(centralized) for trade.
You didn’t copy everything that @Fivestar4everMVP said, whoever reads your post will think he was actually advising that people should receive directly with their exchange address. He only just pointed out the reason why anyone would do something like that – and he’s not wrong imagine having to spend $13 just to move $50 to your exchange account, you’d also be compelled to just receive the funds directly with your exchange address to save your money.
Add the bolded part below to the post you quoted so that others will get the correct information you’re replying to.
I wouldnt blame the participants who did that either, because in times when bitcoin transactions fees get too high, and you are going to be selling your bitcoin when you receive them, it's better to receive that bitcoin directly to the exchange, so as to avoid spending extra fund moving the same bitcoin to the exchange.
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No, dude! This is very wrong and that mistake should never happens. Why would you mix a coin and send it to an exchange just because of the high network fee? Apart from the unfortunate thing that could happen making the exchange to freeze the coin and asking you critical questions on why you decided to mix the coin before depositing, your data can be traced without any stress.
High network fee should not make us make decisions that would erase our main motive of mixing a coin. It would be juvenile if we mix a coin and send it to an exchange(centralized) for trade.
I’m reading through a translator, perhaps the translation is not correct. Do I understand correctly that if you mix bitcoins through a mixer and then send them to a centralized place to sell them, for example, they can be blocked?
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I’m reading through a translator, perhaps the translation is not correct. Do I understand correctly that if you mix bitcoins through a mixer and then send them to a centralized place to sell them, for example, they can be blocked?
CAN!
The possibility exists, it's not only about mixed coins as some crappy exchanges running stupid AML bots will block even genuine funds coming from another exchange, and so when there is risk, again, why take it and not try to minimize it!
With this in mind, I must repeat that I've sent by mistake freshly mixed coins directly to Bitstamp, the same company that asks you for everything including proof of income without anything happening, but if you can afford , just don't do it, some exchnges have really bad configured bots that will trigger warnigns out of nowhere, this is a discussion I've had with such a representative of an exchange that used a stupid AML bot:
First, AMLBOT entity is a completely different company, which we have client-customer connections only. You can check full info about their company on their website https://amlbot.com/, and you have all their legal information available at the header of the AML report. AMLbot is a trusted tool widely used (not only by us) to ensure the safety of crypto transactions, for any questions about how their system works you can address the information on their website. We must note that the AML reports like one you received are issued automatically and cannot be changed nor by us, neither by the company behind the bot itself, so there is no conspiracy to rip you off your money behind that
AMLBOT is overpriced garbage that nobody is taking serious.
And I'm going to prove you how crappy that service is right here
OP deposited through tx
https://mempool.space/tx/b1fcd509833b9a6d6ce142806c1bced2780bc6acb4695ce3e8a04a227ba1ad53
From 13oLHMtTujmYBVsKJEgY4nzxKiWSB4qEWo to your adress at bc1qrv44amv8myhlug9wuxt4u23aq8jud8he4nm9h4
13oLHMtTujmYBVsKJEgY4nzxKiWSB4qEWo was funded in:
https://mempool.space/tx/215a81bd42ea6b060de813222b5fe1a2d600a3c20a13aba7a8e6214eb97b609d
0.94691470 BTC from bc1q7cyrfmck2ffu2ud3rn5l5a8yv6f0chkp0zpemf
bc1q7cyrfmck2ffu2ud3rn5l5a8yv6f0chkp0zpemf
is crypto.com wallet
https://glasschain.org/btc/address/bc1q7cyrfmck2ffu2ud3rn5l5a8yv6f0chkp0zpemf
So because somebody is accusing crypto.com of either seizing their funds of closing their accounts, they report the address, glasschain indexes those reports and then stupid bots take those into account and label the address as being risky! Pretty much like somebody losing at a casino, leaving a negative google review on it and now your bank account is frozen because you have won in that casino and cashed out!
You didn’t copy everything that @Fivestar4everMVP said, whoever reads your post will think he was actually advising that people should receive directly with their exchange address. He only just pointed out the reason why anyone would do something like that – and he’s not wrong imagine having to spend $13 just to move $50 to your exchange account, you’d also be compelled to just receive the funds directly with your exchange address to save your money.
$13 for a single input transaction is 270sat/vb, there was never a period longer than 3 days in which a 100sat/vb wouldn't have confirmed, so let's not exaggerate to try and make an excuse for something, moreover Sinbad was seized at the end of November, you had a full month before that with 1sat/b confirmation and there are some who have used their exchange address for more than two years!
Anyhow!!!!
I think we're spend enough time on this, better go back and this time for real and stick to Unijoin!
As I'm preparing my review, I saw something that I think needs mentioning and it's not really about the mixing process , it's just some text in FAQ:
What Is A Crypto Mixer?
A crypto ~~~~~~ Chipmixer uses the technology of Chips that have a certain value, and UniJoin uses CoinJoin technology, which we believe is the most effective method for restoring and maintaining anonymity.
well, the competitor is dead and buried already, I don't know if mentioning it is a net gain, of course Unijoin is here and CM not, but it would just make people worry remembering what happened to some mixers.
Anyhow, nothing worth speeding more than a minute on it, just found it interesting!
AML Check:
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/01/27/kYnCl.png)
What did that AML bot say?
Not that I don't dislike those things with every molecule of my body but I'm still genuinely curios about those scores!
Mind a comparison test, you tx versus for example the campaign payments?
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I think most people do the same, holding Bitcoin for a rainy day. That’s why you need a mixer like this to do it once and lose traces.But since stablecoins are used more often in everyday life, I think creating a mixer for altcoins is much more relevant.
As you probably noticed, Unijoin has plans to add mixing for altcoins like ETH, LTC, and USDT. So we can only wait for it to appear on the Unijoin site. Personally, I think that LTC mixing may be popular because the LTC network has the MWEB feature, but at the same time, I am somehow skeptical about USDT mixing because the smart contract of this stablecoin allows Tether to blacklist any addresses.
I like the idea of having a mixer that will provide service for ETH after the arrest of the Tornado Cash owner and the blacklist of their website.
Out of curiosity, is there a link to the Unijoin announcement regarding the creation of a mixing service that will support ETH, LTC, and USDT?
Because the last time I checked Tether had frozen at least a 500Million USD worth of USDT to assist law enforcement authorities with a money laundering case so I think it will be hard for a crypto mixer to avoid the same scenario unless there's a decentralized stablecoin they can add to their service.
I am Also impressed too, although I am a core Bitcoin enthusiast but still I think crypto is an open space and everyone is free to explore the varieties of coins available, and Ethereum is arguably the next most famous crypto coin aside Bitcoin.
I think this offer would increase the adoption of cryptocurrency because there are holders of altcoins who are looking for ways to perform anonymous transactions and. A mixing services that supports those altcoin would make their lives easier for them.
But do you think that there may be some negative side as we know performing transactions on the Ethereum network fees are very high here, would the fees using an Ethereum mixer be even higher than it's normal transactions? If so people can just convert to Bitcoin and mix the Bitcoin.
Altcoin mixing service will increase the adoption of cryptocurrency, how?
Based on my understanding it will increase the traffic of the crypto mixer platform that provides the service just like we see with Tornado Cash before the platform was blacklisted.
Of course, for every advantage, there will be disadvantages, and the negative effect I believe will happen is Tether will freeze the USDT sent by the mixer user if the law enforcement authorities order Tether to do so.
I like the idea of having a mixer that will provide service for ETH after the arrest of the Tornado Cash owner and the blacklist of their website.
Because the last time I checked Tether had frozen at least a 500Million USD worth of USDT to assist law enforcement authorities with a money laundering case so I think it will be hard for a crypto mixer to avoid the same scenario unless there's a decentralized stablecoin they can add to their service.
You can still use Tornado Cash to mix your coins, the smart contract is still active, the problem is exchanges refusing coins labeled coming from there, which will be the same pain in the ass for USDT in case of a mixer. Since this is a centralized protocol, all the coins are issued by them, they can control everything, I don't really see the point in trying to mix them, it's a bit asking for trouble, probably the reason why everybody stayed out of it to this point.
ETH and LTC yeah, nice addition, USDT...not really sold on the idea!
I don't know Tornado cash smart contract is still active but there is no point in using the platform mixing service since most exchanges have already tagged it.
Is it possible to create a mixing service on Ethereum that will decentralized?
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I don't know Tornado cash smart contract is still active but there is no point in using the platform mixing service since most exchanges have already tagged it.
Is it possible to create a mixing service on Ethereum that will decentralized?
That's exactly what Tornado Cash is, a complete decentralized smart contract, which basically will need re-writing of the ETH protocol to be completely shut down.
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Sorry but may be you read and try to comprehend well before replying
OK, let me repeat exactly what you wrote:
it's better to receive that bitcoin directly to the exchange, so as to avoid spending extra fund moving the same bitcoin to the exchange.
This is recommendation written by you, and you clearly say that is is better to receive coins from mixer directly to exchange because of fees :o
Now I will say again that this stupid, and I explained why in my previous post.
Now lets get back on Unijoin topic.
Yea for sure, the idea of using a bitcoin mixer only to then receive your coin directly on an exchange is laughable.
And it is not rocket science to understand that using an exchange especially a decentralised exchange compromises your anonymity.
1. Most exchanges needs you to register
2. Some goes to the extent of asking for your KYC
3. Not your private keys not your wallet, so funds coming into an exchange is risky.
You should not engage the service of a mixer and after the stress you end of throwing it all away by using an exchange as your receiving address
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1. Most exchanges needs you to register
2. Some goes to the extent of asking for your KYC
All centralized exchanges require you to register and complete your kyc to be able to trade on their platform, there are a few centralized exchanges that would allow you trade without kyc for small amounts, but many of them have already made kyc mandatory and the few that is left would surely do that soon. To avoid giving any platform your data, you must use p2p exchanges.
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Sorry but may be you read and try to comprehend well before replying
OK, let me repeat exactly what you wrote:
it's better to receive that bitcoin directly to the exchange, so as to avoid spending extra fund moving the same bitcoin to the exchange.
This is recommendation written by you, and you clearly say that is is better to receive coins from mixer directly to exchange because of fees :o
Now I will say again that this stupid, and I explained why in my previous post.
Now lets get back on Unijoin topic.
Well, I am not going to reply you again after this, for I believe you know clearly what you are doing, how can you pick out a full comment, snip out some parts, then quote the remaining part and make that part you quoted look like it's the full comment? Only people with low IQ do that.
And thanks very much @Cantsay for coming through with the part of my comment he snipped out, and also for once again, trying to make him understand that what he did was not only wrong, but that I also was never advising people to use centralized exchanges to receive Payment for their services, but what I said, again, was what some campaign participants did and their reason for doing that.
It is one thing to know how to to read and write, but it's another thing entirely to know how to read and comprehend(understand).
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No, dude! This is very wrong and that mistake should never happens. Why would you mix a coin and send it to an exchange just because of the high network fee? Apart from the unfortunate thing that could happen making the exchange to freeze the coin and asking you critical questions on why you decided to mix the coin before depositing, your data can be traced without any stress.
High network fee should not make us make decisions that would erase our main motive of mixing a coin. It would be juvenile if we mix a coin and send it to an exchange(centralized) for trade.
I’m reading through a translator, perhaps the translation is not correct. Do I understand correctly that if you mix bitcoins through a mixer and then send them to a centralized place to sell them, for example, they can be blocked?
What is the essence of you mixing a coin and still sending it directly to a centralized exchange? Your coin could be at risk if care is not taken. If the address is already blacklisted, the exchange will have no option than to freeze your coin for a well detailed explanation. They would want evidence and what prompted a transaction from such address. You might have to pass through hectic procedures before your coin could ever be released but if you are not lucky enough, you could lose your fund.
Cases like these keep happening and we'll just have to learn from others avoiding being a victim.
1. Most exchanges needs you to register
2. Some goes to the extent of asking for your KYC
All centralized exchanges require you to register and complete your kyc to be able to trade on their platform, there are a few centralized exchanges that would allow you trade without kyc for small amounts, but many of them have already made kyc mandatory and the few that is left would surely do that soon. To avoid giving any platform your data, you must use p2p exchanges.
There are level of risks that is attached to the use of centralized exchanges and we ought to know that. We can always trade our coin locally than trading it on exchanges even without KYC verification. Peer-to-peer exchange also have risk connected since you will always drop your bank details for a sell and with that, your bank account can be tracked effortlessly.
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I’m reading through a translator, perhaps the translation is not correct. Do I understand correctly that if you mix bitcoins through a mixer and then send them to a centralized place to sell them, for example, they can be blocked?
CAN!
The possibility exists, it's not only about mixed coins as some crappy exchanges running stupid AML bots will block even genuine funds coming from another exchange, and so when there is risk, again, why take it and not try to minimize it!
With this in mind, I must repeat that I've sent by mistake freshly mixed coins directly to Bitstamp, the same company that asks you for everything including proof of income without anything happening, but if you can afford , just don't do it, some exchnges have really bad configured bots that will trigger warnigns out of nowhere, this is a discussion I've had with such a representative of an exchange that used a stupid AML bot:
Wow, to be honest, I never thought in this direction. But still, if I understood correctly, the problem is not in the mixer, but in clumsily configured bots on some exchanges. But for safety, if you decide to sell bitcoins, it is better to do it on decentralized exchanges, even though there are horse commission.
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I’m reading through a translator, perhaps the translation is not correct. Do I understand correctly that if you mix bitcoins through a mixer and then send them to a centralized place to sell them, for example, they can be blocked?
CAN!
The possibility exists, it's not only about mixed coins as some crappy exchanges running stupid AML bots will block even genuine funds coming from another exchange, and so when there is risk, again, why take it and not try to minimize it!
With this in mind, I must repeat that I've sent by mistake freshly mixed coins directly to Bitstamp, the same company that asks you for everything including proof of income without anything happening, but if you can afford , just don't do it, some exchnges have really bad configured bots that will trigger warnigns out of nowhere, this is a discussion I've had with such a representative of an exchange that used a stupid AML bot:
Wow, to be honest, I never thought in this direction. But still, if I understood correctly, the problem is not in the mixer, but in clumsily configured bots on some exchanges. But for safety, if you decide to sell bitcoins, it is better to do it on decentralized exchanges, even though there are horse commission.
Well, in my opinion, the issue with centralized exchanges is not safety. At least there are some well-known centralized exchanges that people have used safely without losing funds, but the major issue people have with centralized exchanges is that their anonymity and privacy are not secured.
Also, if it's within your power, you can provide your personal wallet address when using a Bitcoin mixer because the bug you talked about is not peculiar to centralized exchanges alone; some decentralized exchanges have issues too.
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So, time for a review! 8)
From the start since we had a on of debate over TOR, again no issue with it, no problem with a 4GB virtual machine, no problem with TOR browser, the same usual speed, I had no need to change circuits, but note his test was on clearnet as that's where the issue start usually and this is a test.....
Of course issues happen if you try to run it with previous portable versions of chrome don't work with cloudfare so you will get get the same message, valid for firefox releases also, but I don't see why somebody should use those and not just TOR or go for chrome default, still worth mentioning so you would know it's cloudfare not unijoin.
Probably not much emphasis should be put on the design, that was pretty much covered, pretty straightforward stuff, you hit the mixing button and you start, no let's get down tot he steps that I think need mentioning:
When you start, you have the option of a recurring client code, the initial reaction of most will be a question on how this will track your orders, so, I would rather not only not use it but not see this thing at all, people are suspicious, and people wanting to erase tracks don't want to see anything that can some how resemble tracking
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/01/30/kBSXq.jpeg)
Now I love the idiot proof confirmations, plus the explanation, I mean read before clicking and force people to read before clicking so nobody can come then and say I didn't know that! If it were my decision I would make those twice as many so you don't have users coming back and say, I didn't download the letter, I don't know the the address I've sent the coins , I didn't know what fees were involved
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/01/30/kBaJ5.png)
The classic button for adding an address, the scroll for the delay, I would as I said to other mixers also , would be nice force those to not be able to split in 1/2 and 1/4 and I wouldn't have the script recommend 50% when adding a new address and 33% on the third, maybe a bit of randomizing, same for the timing, not allow the same timing for every single on of them.
Going to the mixing I encountered a captcha, which I had to redo since it seems I'm not god at identifying hot coffee
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/01/30/k90zH.png)
Again, avoid cloudfare go for tor.
Now an issue on the timing of the funds:
When creating a mixing order, the deposit must be made to the generated address within 24 hours including the 2 confirmations of the network, so that the order can be automatically processed by our system.
If you sent the coins after 24 hours, don’t worry, your funds are not lost. Contact our support and attach the letter of guarantee so that we can refund your money
I and probably I'm not the only one at all, would love to have this completely automated even if the confirmation happens after 24 hours or get a rejection deposits, the network is plagued with high fees and sporadic jump that might make some next block tx sent two second ago fail to get confirmed in 24 hours.
And this brings us up to the question, and I wish I would have tested it what happens if I RBF a deposit?
I would probably love to hear someone else feedback on it before I go and experience a failure and trouble the support with a thing they already know about it, should have done this as a test but completely forget it was an issue with some mixers.
So I paid more than enough for next block, funds received, awaiting confirmation, time goes by
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/01/30/k9x0I.png)
and
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/01/30/k9qXv.png)
The page does not refresh on the delivery of funds, it's stuck on 'awaiting coinjoin" so if you have your eyes glued on that you might want to look at your wallet first before contacting support!
Notes after the transfer
I usually do not advise people to mix small amount ever, high blockchain fees, moving funds from the mixed address to another address, will eat a large percentage of you funds for nothing, better save up and mix a bigger chunk once to multiple addresses. That beings said I played with pocket change, and despite the sum being small, paying for different addresses, involving fees (me to unjoin, unjoin to me, me to next hop deposit), from the starting amount I ended up with 94.91% of the sum, which is way cheaper than I was expecting, I could have sworn I would be losing more than 10% on this.
The Coinjoin graph:
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/01/30/kBmp8.png)
One tree funding my transfer, one change going to one branch afterward before a mix the other joining another one, I was a bit suspicious about the one linking the two chains at one point but it goes again in the mix and just branches off.
I would also say I'm pleased with the outgoing fees, one thing that would have made me worry when fees that 100-150 sat/vb would have been the mixer paying 3x or 4x on the payments, but seems like they were timed and approximated close to perfection, hitting first and the other one second mined block since issuance.
Going for some final thoughts, appealing points
- easy to use
- good fees even for relatively small amounts
- indeed coinjoin mixing
- without hiccups execution
Not a fan of:
- 24 hours confirmation and then contact support timetable, would love to see an user presented with automatic options
- the recurring client code, although I do know its optional, and the memberCode cookie
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@Stompix, overall, that's a very good review you have here, I was going to also test the mixer last week with around 0.00093 bitcoin, but after filling out all the levels to the last one, I discovered that minimum bitcoin one could mix was 0.001 and up to 1000 bitcoin , they made no mention of this in the stages until the last stage, and I think this is something they need to correct as well.
And another area I was also a bit worried about was in the area of fees, but I am glad you've shared your experience here in this regard, and I now know what to expect in terms of fees when I possibly carry out my own test next week 8)
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@Stompix, overall, that's a very good review you have here, I was going to also test the mixer last week with around 0.00093 bitcoin, but after filling out all the levels to the last one, I discovered that minimum bitcoin one could mix was 0.001 and up to 1000 bitcoin , they made no mention of this in the stages until the last stage, and I think this is something they need to correct as well.
And another area I was also a bit worried about was in the area of fees, but I am glad you've shared your experience here in this regard, and I now know what to expect in terms of fees when I possibly carry out my own test next week 8)
If I'm not mistaken about the minimum amount, that information was listed somewhere. To remind myself again about it, I had to read the rules and this is what I found:
(https://i.ibb.co/wCh3wT2/Uni-Join-FAQ-Google-Chrome.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Y8BYy6V)
Shall I say that it surprised me? I can't say anything. Consequently, the exchange should be done based on this data. It may be useful to remind someone of this again.
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If I'm not mistaken about the minimum amount, that information was listed somewhere. To remind myself again about it, I had to read the rules and this is what I found:
(https://i.ibb.co/wCh3wT2/Uni-Join-FAQ-Google-Chrome.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Y8BYy6V)
Shall I say that it surprised me? I can't say anything. Consequently, the exchange should be done based on this data. It may be useful to remind someone of this again.
That is a typo that was pointed out by dwyane36 on page 2 of this thread and hasn't been corrected yet.
If you try to actually mix coins you will see that the minimum is 0.001 BTC and 1000.00 BTC the maximum amount. But they should correct that mistake so that people know about it before they start the mixing process.
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Welcome to February, guys. The year seems to be running very fast, January 1st was just yesterday ago and now a new month. :)
It's been quite some time since we've had an article from the Unijoin team; the latest one was published in November 2023 (more than two months ago). I've read through several of them, and they were all fantastic - I do hope that we’ll receive more from you guys this month.
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If I'm not mistaken about the minimum amount, that information was listed somewhere. To remind myself again about it, I had to read the rules and this is what I found:
(https://i.ibb.co/wCh3wT2/Uni-Join-FAQ-Google-Chrome.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Y8BYy6V)
Shall I say that it surprised me? I can't say anything. Consequently, the exchange should be done based on this data. It may be useful to remind someone of this again.
That is a typo that was pointed out by dwyane36 on page 2 of this thread and hasn't been corrected yet.
If you try to actually mix coins you will see that the minimum is 0.001 BTC and 1000.00 BTC the maximum amount. But they should correct that mistake so that people know about it before they start the mixing process.
Thank you Don Pedro Dinero, for pointing that out to him, maybe he thought I didnt know what I was saying ;D lol, I am not the type that come posting things I've not tried, or data I've not confirmed, all for what? To meet up with my post quota? Na na.
And besides, I am still of the opinion that they should make the minimum and maximum amount of bitcoin one can mix visible in the first stage of the mixing process, atleast, for the sake of those who are always too lazy to read rules ;D, even though it's still something I encourage people to see as very important and not bypass it.
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If you try to actually mix coins you will see that the minimum is 0.001 BTC and 1000.00 BTC the maximum amount. But they should correct that mistake so that people know about it before they start the mixing process.
And besides, I am still of the opinion that they should make the minimum and maximum amount of bitcoin one can mix visible in the first stage of the mixing process, atleast, for the sake of those who are always too lazy to read rules ;D, even though it's still something I encourage people to see as very important and not bypass it.
Yup, seems like I'm missing a screenshot from my review but the min and max are shown after you agree with everything :
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/02/02/v2YCC.png)
It is right above the address you need to send coins to so rather hard to miss before you actually start the mixing, my opinion if you fail to read that then no matter where you put it in the previous pages you will still not read it.That aside, the FAQ should be corrected, not for practical reasons but for anti troll reasons, it might just leave a door open to someone wanting to start a smear campaign out of nothing.
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It is right above the address you need to send coins to so rather hard to miss before you actually start the mixing, my opinion if you fail to read that then no matter where you put it in the previous pages you will still not read it.That aside, the FAQ should be corrected, not for practical reasons but for anti troll reasons, it might just leave a door open to someone wanting to start a smear campaign out of nothing.
What is not clear to me is whether there is a representative of unijoin.io on the forum. I understand that there isn't. On BTT there was, but here it seems to me that the only link to uniojoin is icopress, which I guess is quite busy handling many campaigns on both forums, so I guess the way to correct a typo is longer and more difficult (icopress has to remember to contact someone from unijoin to tell them to correct the typo).
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What is not clear to me is whether there is a representative of unijoin.io on the forum. I understand that there isn't. On BTT there was, but here it seems to me that the only link to uniojoin is icopress, which I guess is quite busy handling many campaigns on both forums, so I guess the way to correct a typo is longer and more difficult (icopress has to remember to contact someone from unijoin to tell them to correct the typo).
If everything works well, there is nothing to worry about. Unijoin's team answered most of the questions (at least on BTT), and as far as I can see, there were no special complaints about the work of the service itself.
It is not unusual for a service to hire one person who will be their representative on various platforms such as social media, forums etc... It seems that they made a winning combination with icopress (as their representative) and there is no reason to change it. At least not until now.
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If everything works well, there is nothing to worry about. Unijoin's team answered most of the questions (at least on BTT), and as far as I can see, there were no special complaints about the work of the service itself.
It is not unusual for a service to hire one person who will be their representative on various platforms such as social media, forums etc... It seems that they made a winning combination with icopress (as their representative) and there is no reason to change it. At least not until now.
Well, yes, in general everything works fine, but I was referring to the fact that something that in principle is of minor importance, such as correcting a typo, was pointed out in this thread some time ago and still hasn't been corrected. I imagine that icopress is quite busy and this matter is not of vital importance or urgent but one way or another it should be corrected.
I agree with Stompix on this:
That aside, the FAQ should be corrected, not for practical reasons but for anti troll reasons, it might just leave a door open to someone wanting to start a smear campaign out of nothing.
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It is right above the address you need to send coins to so rather hard to miss before you actually start the mixing, my opinion if you fail to read that then no matter where you put it in the previous pages you will still not read it.That aside, the FAQ should be corrected, not for practical reasons but for anti troll reasons, it might just leave a door open to someone wanting to start a smear campaign out of nothing.
What is not clear to me is whether there is a representative of unijoin.io on the forum. I understand that there isn't. On BTT there was, but here it seems to me that the only link to uniojoin is icopress, which I guess is quite busy handling many campaigns on both forums, so I guess the way to correct a typo is longer and more difficult (icopress has to remember to contact someone from unijoin to tell them to correct the typo).
I might be wrong but I think that during that time btt users were rushing down here to sign up due to the announcement on btt and mixers are bringing their signature ad campaign here, i did saw that a Unijoin representative (possibly the same representative on bitcointalk) actually did signed up here, and even got a badge from the admin showing that he or she is providing a service on this forum.
If this be true, I am not wondering why he or she is not advice here.
Unfortunately, I do not know how to specifically search of users on this forum by their usernames, as I have tried and the only results that came up are post from user's which have in it, the word that I searched.
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Unfortunately, I do not know how to specifically search of users on this forum by their usernames, as I have tried and the only results that came up are post from user's which have in it, the word that I searched.
There is no user with name Unijoin or similar registered in this forum, but icopress is doing a great work.
You can go to your profile, than Modify Profile settings, and find at the bottom Add To Buddy List with empty field.
As you type the letters you will see all registered members in forum, and you can add or remove anyone from your buddy list.
(https://images2.imgbox.com/e2/c6/DFmufUcq_o.jpg)
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Unfortunately, I do not know how to specifically search of users on this forum by their usernames, as I have tried and the only results that came up are post from user's which have in it, the word that I searched.
There is no user with name Unijoin or similar registered in this forum, but icopress is doing a great work.
You can go to your profile, than Modify Profile settings, and find at the bottom Add To Buddy List with empty field.
As you type the letters you will see all registered members in forum, and you can add or remove anyone from your buddy list.
(https://images2.imgbox.com/e2/c6/DFmufUcq_o.jpg)
Then It must have been the other forum that I saw that username, and thought it was here.
Anyways, thank you very much for that tip, I was actually making use of the normal search bar we have on the top right corner of the forum, didn't know there was a way to search for users in our profile section.
And by the way, I was on UniJoin website and saw this information in the screenshot below..
(https://talkimg.com/images/2024/02/06/vzvzT.png)
And I am curious, and wanna ask, how does one invest in crypto anonymously? Can one invest in bitcoin without going through a centralized exchange or p2p trade through uniJoin? If yes, how does it work?
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And I am curious, and wanna ask, how does one invest in crypto anonymously? Can one invest in bitcoin without going through a centralized exchange or p2p trade through uniJoin? If yes, how does it work?
If you buy cryptocurrency on centralized exchanges or on p2p platforms that require mandatory verification, you leave traces of both your financial activities and your identity either way. This screenshot most likely means that if you use a mixer, you can avoid such privacy risks. By the way, mixing on the unijoin site breaks the connection between your identity and address, thus making your cryptocurrency investments anonymous.
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And I am curious, and wanna ask, how does one invest in crypto anonymously? Can one invest in bitcoin without going through a centralized exchange or p2p trade through uniJoin? If yes, how does it work?
It's in the why unijoin page:
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/02/07/vIl5N.png)
There are risk in using the same address and store funds within the same wallet even if you buy from true p2p or BATMs or if you use the funded address to directly deposit to something that requires KYC.
So if I buy anonymously each month 1000 euros of BTC from someone, that guy still knows that how much I bought and my bank number and can even know when I'm buying coins from somebody else or where I move my coins, same from a BATM that takes a mug shot of you when you use it, they know the address you have received funds from there your identity is linked to that.
An example how things could go wrong would be simply buying from guy in person coins and he sees that you store the coins in a 50BTC worth wallet, would you meet with a stranger that can track and know you have $2 million worth of BTC?
Now if that stranger is a police officer?
And funny thing, I like how they used the map of China there!
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And I am curious, and wanna ask, how does one invest in crypto anonymously? Can one invest in bitcoin without going through a centralized exchange or p2p trade through uniJoin? If yes, how does it work?
What do you mean how?
You just send your coins that are not associated with your identity to any other address and you invested and sent money anonymously.
Company that owns address doesnt know your real name, address, phone number or bank account number, unless you told them.
If you are smart enough you can even start your own business based on bitcoin.
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And I am curious, and wanna ask, how does one invest in crypto anonymously? Can one invest in bitcoin without going through a centralized exchange or p2p trade through uniJoin? If yes, how does it work?
What do you mean how?
You just send your coins that are not associated with your identity to any other address and you invested and sent money anonymously.
Company that owns address doesnt know your real name, address, phone number or bank account number, unless you told them.
If you are smart enough you can even start your own business based on bitcoin.
Bitcoin is best if one wants to start a business on his own and confidentially. This business is self-proprietary and the money will remain confidential. It is possible to do this business honestly for a long time with your name hidden, no one will ever know the address unless you disclose it. So surely starting business with Bitcoin is the best sign and good business.
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What is not clear to me is whether there is a representative of unijoin.io on the forum. I understand that there isn't. On BTT there was, but here it seems to me that the only link to uniojoin is icopress, which I guess is quite busy handling many campaigns on both forums, so I guess the way to correct a typo is longer and more difficult (icopress has to remember to contact someone from unijoin to tell them to correct the typo).
Yeah, even if Unijoin doesn't register here, from what I've seen on BTT icopress always has an eye on the topics related to its campaigns, so in case of a real issue he's pretty reactive and will contact someone if needed I guess.
There are always a way to contact directly Unijoin through their website if necessary: http://unijoin.io/en/contact (http://unijoin.io/en/contact)
While we're on the subject, I'd like to send a little feedback to unijoin:
Could you please add your PGP key on the contact page? That would be appreciated, especially since Cloudflare is used. I think a lot of users might appreciate it.
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And I am curious, and wanna ask, how does one invest in crypto anonymously? Can one invest in bitcoin without going through a centralized exchange or p2p trade through uniJoin? If yes, how does it work?
If you buy cryptocurrency on centralized exchanges or on p2p platforms that require mandatory verification, you leave traces of both your financial activities and your identity either way. This screenshot most likely means that if you use a mixer, you can avoid such privacy risks. By the way, mixing on the unijoin site breaks the connection between your identity and address, thus making your cryptocurrency investments anonymous.
OK, which also means that it's still all about buying from the exchange or through p2p and mixing with Unijoin, not like it's possible to buy bitcoin directly from Unijoin? I saw that information and was actually thinking that there was a way to invest in bitcoin anonymously by buying the bitcoin directly from Unijoin, as far as I am aware that this feature is not available on Unijoin, I think it would have been a great idea to implement such, though I am not very sure how feasible such a feature is for a mixer.
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OK, which also means that it's still all about buying from the exchange or through p2p and mixing with Unijoin, not like it's possible to buy bitcoin directly from Unijoin? I saw that information and was actually thinking that there was a way to invest in bitcoin anonymously by buying the bitcoin directly from Unijoin, as far as I am aware that this feature is not available on Unijoin, I think it would have been a great idea to implement such, though I am not very sure how feasible such a feature is for a mixer.
Yeah man buying P2P and using a mixer is a very good way to protect your privacy.
Unijoin is only a mixer, which will help to increase the privacy on your coins, nothing less, nothing more. It is not the same business to build an exchange service, you can be tied by regulations depending of the countries, you have to own reserves of multiples coins etc...etc... Probably a real pain in the ass to start this kind of business if you want my opinion.
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And I am curious, and wanna ask, how does one invest in crypto anonymously? Can one invest in bitcoin without going through a centralized exchange or p2p trade through uniJoin? If yes, how does it work?
If you buy cryptocurrency on centralized exchanges or on p2p platforms that require mandatory verification, you leave traces of both your financial activities and your identity either way. This screenshot most likely means that if you use a mixer, you can avoid such privacy risks. By the way, mixing on the unijoin site breaks the connection between your identity and address, thus making your cryptocurrency investments anonymous.
OK, which also means that it's still all about buying from the exchange or through p2p and mixing with Unijoin, not like it's possible to buy bitcoin directly from Unijoin? I saw that information and was actually thinking that there was a way to invest in bitcoin anonymously by buying the bitcoin directly from Unijoin, as far as I am aware that this feature is not available on Unijoin, I think it would have been a great idea to implement such, though I am not very sure how feasible such a feature is for a mixer.
The question arises: why do they need this? They still have many tasks in development, for example, to do the same with ether and stablecoins.
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as far as I am aware that this feature is not available on Unijoin, I think it would have been a great idea to implement such, though I am not very sure how feasible such a feature is for a mixer.
Allowing you to buy coins would mean that unijoin would have to enter a partnership with a bank or payment processor so they could get fiat.
Do you see even the possibility of a bank agreeing to take and receiving payments from a mixer? And even if they would mircoulsy do you're going to be at risk every single second of an agency seizing those accounts!
The question arises: why do they need this? They still have many tasks in development, for example, to do the same with ether and stablecoins.
They don't and and it's not going to happen.
Mixing exists to break the chain of transactions and to hide the real destination of funds, you can't do that with fiat in its digital form, that's why it will never happen and even if again by miracle they would everyone is going to avoid a mixer that has built relations with the banking sector.
I mean common.... that's too much even for a wolf in sheep clothes honeypot image!
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as far as I am aware that this feature is not available on Unijoin, I think it would have been a great idea to implement such, though I am not very sure how feasible such a feature is for a mixer.
Allowing you to buy coins would mean that unijoin would have to enter a partnership with a bank or payment processor so they could get fiat.
Do you see even the possibility of a bank agreeing to take and receiving payments from a mixer? And even if they would mircoulsy do you're going to be at risk every single second of an agency seizing those accounts!
The question arises: why do they need this? They still have many tasks in development, for example, to do the same with ether and stablecoins.
They don't and and it's not going to happen.
Mixing exists to break the chain of transactions and to hide the real destination of funds, you can't do that with fiat in its digital form, that's why it will never happen and even if again by miracle they would everyone is going to avoid a mixer that has built relations with the banking sector.
I mean common.... that's too much even for a wolf in sheep clothes honeypot image!
Well, you do have a very good argument, and I've actually tried to think deep to see if there could be a way it could work out, but it seems there is absolutely none, since I couldn't come up with any fresh idea.
Anyways, speaking of the altcoins like eth and usdt that unijoin is still developing a mixer for, I am very interested to see how usdt mixing would work, we, or most of us know what usdt is centralized, and they operate like a bank as well, how can someone mix usdt without attracting tether's attention, most especially when amount is very huge like in millions?
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Anyways, speaking of the altcoins like eth and usdt that unijoin is still developing a mixer for, I am very interested to see how usdt mixing would work, we, or most of us know what usdt is centralized, and they operate like a bank as well, how can someone mix usdt without attracting tether's attention, most especially when amount is very huge like in millions?
That is the problem with centralization - I’m not sure how but I do know that if Tether finds anything suspicious they can easily balcklist their token and that token won’t be able to be sent out of a wallet - which means even after mixing your coin they can still blacklist the one you sent making it impossible for it to be moved.
And that brings the question - if Unijoin should accept a coin from a suspicious anddress and then it gets blacklisted after the transaction won’t Unijoin be at a lost here?
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That is the problem with centralization - I’m not sure how but I do know that if Tether finds anything suspicious they can easily balcklist their token and that token won’t be able to be sent out of a wallet - which means even after mixing your coin they can still blacklist the one you sent making it impossible for it to be moved.
And that brings the question - if Unijoin should accept a coin from a suspicious anddress and then it gets blacklisted after the transaction won’t Unijoin be at a lost here?
They can freeze usdt coins but only on certain addresses, and if coins get moved to many other addresses on time than they cant freeze everything ;)
But you are right that nobody should keep many Tether coins for any reason, they can easily swap them to Ethereum or other tokes, than to Bitcoin and different mixers.
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as far as I am aware that this feature is not available on Unijoin, I think it would have been a great idea to implement such, though I am not very sure how feasible such a feature is for a mixer.
Allowing you to buy coins would mean that unijoin would have to enter a partnership with a bank or payment processor so they could get fiat.
Do you see even the possibility of a bank agreeing to take and receiving payments from a mixer? And even if they would mircoulsy do you're going to be at risk every single second of an agency seizing those accounts!
The question arises: why do they need this? They still have many tasks in development, for example, to do the same with ether and stablecoins.
They don't and and it's not going to happen.
Mixing exists to break the chain of transactions and to hide the real destination of funds, you can't do that with fiat in its digital form, that's why it will never happen and even if again by miracle they would everyone is going to avoid a mixer that has built relations with the banking sector.
I mean common.... that's too much even for a wolf in sheep clothes honeypot image!
Well, you do have a very good argument, and I've actually tried to think deep to see if there could be a way it could work out, but it seems there is absolutely none, since I couldn't come up with any fresh idea.
Anyways, speaking of the altcoins like eth and usdt that unijoin is still developing a mixer for, I am very interested to see how usdt mixing would work, we, or most of us know what usdt is centralized, and they operate like a bank as well, how can someone mix usdt without attracting tether's attention, most especially when amount is very huge like in millions?
Indeed, I didn’t think in this direction. As I understand it, ether in this regard is still easier to mix. Maybe we don’t understand something and this mechanism works a little differently?Do you think all USDT have been taken into account and nothing can be done about it?
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Scammed by UniJoin for 10+ btc
Key points:
- I did not leave the correct URL unijoinxaogdzmk3bonngoxxoaezkmsfdyrtfyximisungh2dnc2azad [.] onion
- A series of successful mixes were carried out
- At some point they changed their public key
- There were 2 successful mixes with a fake public key
- In the third mix with a fake key they simply stole my btc and deleted the orderId
- And again I did not leave the correct URL, all this happened during the same browser session
- After the money was not returned I created a test mix where their key was already correct.
Hello! Is it your actual pgp key?
-----BEGIN PUBLIC KEY-----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-----END PUBLIC KEY-----
Support Agent, 4 days ago
Hello *, Thank you for your contact request. A member of the support team will deal with your request as soon as possible. You should receive an answer within the next 24 hours. Thank you for using our service.
You, 4 days ago
Either I was scammed or you replaced the key
You, 4 days ago
order key *, deposit address *, still didnt receive my btc and the letter of guarantee cannot pass verification
Support Agent, 3 days ago
you can find the key in the footer of the page, it does never change
Support Agent, 3 days ago
unijoinxaogdzmk3bonngoxxoaezkmsfdyrtfyximisungh2dnc2azad [.] onion/en/download-public-key
Support Agent, 3 days ago
unijoin [.] io/en/download-public-key
Support Agent, 3 days ago
The above key is not the same as our official PGP. The PGP does not change and is also in public places stored to ensure that it is always the same.
Support Agent, 3 days ago
If the system does not accept the letter of guarantee then there is something wrong with the PGP or the format of the file.
You, 3 days ago
How could the key be replaced? I am 1000% sure that the site address was correct since I did not leave it after previous successful mixes.
You, 3 days ago
Could you still check if order * was in your system?
You, 3 days ago
I did several mixes. Checked them: ... correct key, success - correct key, success - fake key, success - fake key, success - fake key, not success - and now again correct key. I did not leave your correct site address during all the mixes.
You, 3 days ago
for example succesful order with fake key - *
You, 3 days ago
and successful order with correct key - *
You, 3 days ago
I havent left unijoinxaogdzmk3bonngoxxoaezkmsfdyrtfyximisungh2dnc2azad [.] onion in between
You, 3 days ago
Could your site have been hacked?
Support Agent, 3 days ago
We would really like to check the past orders for you. But we keep order information inside the system only as long as needed. If an order is completed then we will remove all information from the database which were needed to complete the order. Then there is only one way to check the order with the letter itself.
Support Agent, 3 days ago
The PGP key is for all users the same and for all orders the same since it is also uploaded on the project itself. There is no option that someone has changed the order for you since the letter will be required for that.
Support Agent, 3 days ago
Have you maybe used two different coinjoin websites to complete the orders? Does someone has access to your machine? Have you been on a pishing site? Lately there are a lot of unreal fake duplication of UniJoin. But even when customer encounter issues with a phishing site we have never encountered that kind of issue and the servers did not had any maintenance or attack.
You, 3 days ago
No. Always had the correct web address. I repeat that I did not leave your web address, and there were several successful mixes before. Also, there are no infections or access to my machine, otherwise the rest of my funds would be lost. Im not asking you to return the money, but would you like to at least try to understand what happened. In fact, the user created an order on your mixer, the mixers web address was correct, not phishing, your system generated a letter of guarantee, then the money did not arrive to the user, and the user saw that the letter generated by your mixer contained a different key.
You, 3 days ago
privnote [.] com/* - Letter of guarantee with fake key
You, 3 days ago
and more - Letter of Guarantee with fake key and SUCCESSFUL previous mix generated by your mixer - privnote [.] com/*
You, 3 days ago
In the previous successful mix with a fake key, the amount was even greater than in the unsuccessful one. It is very strange
You, 3 days ago
Maybe you have some kind of insider who based on my member code decided to steal this money?
Support Agent, 3 days ago
The way how you describe the process is very strange especially since you had several exchanges done. We also try to protect our self and the access to the funds is limits by people who are responsible for the uptime of the system itself. The member code itself is only used to assign you to a different mixing pool every order. Also we are always trying to verify what the customer says since we had frequent issues about people who sent coins to phishing websites and then contact our support to ask why the order did not pass although it did not took place on our website. We are not allowed to open only links outside of this chat for security reasons therefore I can not open your links to privnote [.] com
Support Agent, 3 days ago
Also you say that you have tested and created an order and that the key is really the correct key of the official page. That makes me wonder in which area the mistake happened and from which side.
Support Agent, 3 days ago
Since this never happened before we would just make sure to have an eye on that, if there is any other customer in the future reporting the same or a similar issue. You really need to make sure that the order is places on the official website / onion and that you download the letter of guarantee. Expert users then even compare the PGP to see if the value is correct or they were imposed. It can also be possible that someone inside the local network has reserved the hostname locally and you never request a domain outside the network.
Support Agent, 3 days ago
Feel free to ask us any questions at any time. In case there is anything I can help you with, just let me know. Also if there is any pending order in the future we could then check it real time if you put the waiting time high enough. It is also recommended to have a high waiting time for mixing orders with greater amounts, since the coins will be mixed in a better way when you leave them for a longer time in the conjoins. In any way if there is a pending order we can check in real time if everything is correct as it should be. But it is always expect when the system is in maintenance.
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Scammed by UniJoin for 10+ btc
Cna you explain why did you use Privnote website?
I saw in bitcointalk scam accusation there are fake phishing privnote websites that are changing addresses and stealing coins from people.
It would be best to hear Unijoin side of story before making any conclusions, but they are live since 2022 and I never heard something like this happening.
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Cna you explain why did you use Privnote website?
I saw in bitcointalk scam accusation there are fake phishing privnote websites that are changing addresses and stealing coins from people.
It would be best to hear Unijoin side of story before making any conclusions, but they are live since 2022 and I never heard something like this happening.
There is a lot of missing information here, and we cannot draw any conclusions about what really happened.
In addition to the lack of information, it increases my suspicion because user @jessuni changed the subject of this thread to "scammed 15+ bitcoins", while in the post itself, that amount was reduced to 10+ btc. 5 BTC is not such an insignificant number that you can easily lose it in a discussion.
(https://talkimg.com/images/2024/02/14/vl0OJ.png)
Yes, we should wait for an official explanation from Unijoin.
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In addition to the lack of information, it increases my suspicion because user @jessuni changed the subject of this thread to "scammed 15+ bitcoins", while in the post itself, that amount was reduced to 10+ btc. 5 BTC is not such an insignificant number that you can easily lose it in a discussion.
I still find it strange that during his conversaion with the customer support agent he stated that he`s not asking Unijoin to return the coin (quoted below) - this is not something you would hear from someone who`s to have lost 10+ [BTC], even 0.1[btc] wouldn`t get that kind of reply unless the person is extremely rich.
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Im not asking you to return the money, but would you like to at least try to understand what happened.
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Scammed by UniJoin for 10+ btc
Cna you explain why did you use Privnote website?
I saw in bitcointalk scam accusation there are fake phishing privnote websites that are changing addresses and stealing coins from people.
It would be best to hear Unijoin side of story before making any conclusions, but they are live since 2022 and I never heard something like this happening.
Their chat does not allow inserting attachments, various symbols like # ? " { } as well as messages longer than 1000 characters. Thus I could not insert the Letter of Guarantee text. The first thing that came to mind was to insert the Letter of Guarantee texts into a private note. This is a legitimate service and a legitimate domain if you didn’t know
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Cna you explain why did you use Privnote website?
I saw in bitcointalk scam accusation there are fake phishing privnote websites that are changing addresses and stealing coins from people.
It would be best to hear Unijoin side of story before making any conclusions, but they are live since 2022 and I never heard something like this happening.
There is a lot of missing information here, and we cannot draw any conclusions about what really happened.
In addition to the lack of information, it increases my suspicion because user @jessuni changed the subject of this thread to "scammed 15+ bitcoins", while in the post itself, that amount was reduced to 10+ btc. 5 BTC is not such an insignificant number that you can easily lose it in a discussion.
(https://talkimg.com/images/2024/02/14/vl0OJ.png)
Yes, we should wait for an official explanation from Unijoin.
Ok correct 15+. I wanted more anonymity here on the forum but apparently my attempt failed
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In addition to the lack of information, it increases my suspicion because user @jessuni changed the subject of this thread to "scammed 15+ bitcoins", while in the post itself, that amount was reduced to 10+ btc. 5 BTC is not such an insignificant number that you can easily lose it in a discussion.
I still find it strange that during his conversaion with the customer support agent he stated that he`s not asking Unijoin to return the coin (quoted below) - this is not something you would hear from someone who`s to have lost 10+ [BTC], even 0.1[btc] wouldn`t get that kind of reply unless the person is extremely rich.
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Im not asking you to return the money, but would you like to at least try to understand what happened.
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There's nothing strange here.
After a series of successful mixes it was my own fault that I stopped checking the Letter of Guarantee and did not notice the substitution of the public key. Thus with this phrase I wanted to encourage them to at least somehow investigate what happened. But even this did not affect the adequacy of the support
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Of course there remains the option of someone replacing the final tor node but considering that all this happened during one browser session this option looks fantastic. The easiest way to do this is for the site owner imo
I fully understand that a refund is unlikely but I would like to draw attention to this service so that other people do not fall for the same trick. I haven't encountered anything like this on other services
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Ok correct 15+. I wanted more anonymity here on the forum but apparently my attempt failed
You cannot describe the problem that has arisen so vaguely. This raises doubts about the accuracy of your claims. For us neutrals, it is very important to have precise and true information.
There's nothing strange here.
After a series of successful mixes it was my own fault that I stopped checking the Letter of Guarantee and did not notice the substitution of the public key. Thus with this phrase I wanted to encourage them to at least somehow investigate what happened. But even this did not affect the adequacy of the support
To me, it is certainly strange that someone would just state that the amount of more than half a million dollars does not have to be returned.
We definitely have to wait for an official response from Unijoin. As far as I can see, their Clearnet and Tor site are currently offline. There may be a problem here.
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Their chat does not allow inserting attachments, various symbols like # ? " { } as well as messages longer than 1000 characters. Thus I could not insert the Letter of Guarantee text. The first thing that came to mind was to insert the Letter of Guarantee texts into a private note. This is a legitimate service and a legitimate domain if you didn’t know
Are you dumb or what?
I only told you that privnote has many fake domains recently, so it is clear that I know what real privnote is.
You are changing amount of bitcoins all the time, maybe you will lose 25 tomorrow, so your story is full of holes ::)
We definitely have to wait for an official response from Unijoin. As far as I can see, their Clearnet and Tor site are currently offline. There may be a problem here.
I agree.
I dont know why they didnt create account here already.
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Their chat does not allow inserting attachments, various symbols like # ? " { } as well as messages longer than 1000 characters. Thus I could not insert the Letter of Guarantee text. The first thing that came to mind was to insert the Letter of Guarantee texts into a private note. This is a legitimate service and a legitimate domain if you didn’t know
Are you dumb or what?
I only told you that privnote has many fake domains recently, so it is clear that I know what real privnote is.
You are changing amount of bitcoins all the time, maybe you will lose 25 tomorrow, so your story is full of holes ::)
We definitely have to wait for an official response from Unijoin. As far as I can see, their Clearnet and Tor site are currently offline. There may be a problem here.
I agree.
I dont know why they didnt create account here already.
Dumb it's only you here. Where did you see it and why did you even decide that I was using fake privnote somewhere? What does fake privnote have to do with it anyway?
Don’t mislead anyone, I only changed the amount once (unsuccessfully) because the amount was large and I felt maximum anonymity on this forum. In this case it absolutely does not matter whether it was 10, 15 or even 20 btc. In any case the amount was very large for possible scam or scam exit.
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Ok correct 15+. I wanted more anonymity here on the forum but apparently my attempt failed
You cannot describe the problem that has arisen so vaguely. This raises doubts about the accuracy of your claims. For us neutrals, it is very important to have precise and true information.
There's nothing strange here.
After a series of successful mixes it was my own fault that I stopped checking the Letter of Guarantee and did not notice the substitution of the public key. Thus with this phrase I wanted to encourage them to at least somehow investigate what happened. But even this did not affect the adequacy of the support
To me, it is certainly strange that someone would just state that the amount of more than half a million dollars does not have to be returned.
We definitely have to wait for an official response from Unijoin. As far as I can see, their Clearnet and Tor site are currently offline. There may be a problem here.
my transaction will be easy to find if I give the exact amount or at least an approximate amount since there are not many such txs
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Well, there is absolutely nothing to argue about here, the thing is, we wait for UniJoin side of this story before drawing any conclusions, and I want to believe that the boss himself @icopress is already in contact with the management of unijoin .
But still, what worries me, or I find rather confusing, is the fact that someone loses 10 to 15 bitcoins to a service, had the opportunity of having a chat with the service's customer care, and he boldly tells the customer care that he doesn't wish for the money to be returned, but rather, the situation should be investigated, what exactly is the essence of investigating the situation when you don't want your money returned, 15 bitcoins today is almost $800,000 dollars, and I am surprised someone is comfortable losing such a hefty amount of money.
Com'on bud, if you have so much money, then 0.5 bitcoin to my wallet is already a life changing amount for me, it's my birthday today afterall, so, that could be a nice birthday gift from you to me 🤩
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@notblox1 @examplens @Cantsay I know you are respected members of Bitcointalk and have a strong and clean reputation with many +Trusts, I don't want to add chaos to this UniJoin thread because only one member @jessuni has a statement that @jessuni has experienced something unexpected from the UniJoin service.
I saw that @jessuni is a new member at altcoinstalks but has very good dedication to the forum, I checked it in the chatbox and the admin gave @jessuni the Monarch badge which means @jessuni has donated 10.5 Ethereum or more to the altcoinstalks forum wallet.
Please check this :
The different types of Ranks & Membergroups: https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=14162.0
Patron / Royalty / Donors / VIP: https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=63.0
Eth forum altcoinstalks wallet : 0x2143F7146F0AadC0F9d85ea98F23273Da0e002Ab
Wallet ETH of @jessuni : 0x2C2eAbAF0Fc5DB98a906Ef92C1199CDEcF9c5755
Tx id from @jessuni for getting badge Monarch : https://etherscan.io/tx/0x6b7726ed6cf8761cde752b879872cde8c0e572a5b015e20ef549d7fefec97f11
This is like a very urgent trust bet, because it involves the Mixer Bitcoin project which has been operating for a long time, Teleported members who have a lot of +Trust , new altcoinstalks members who have donated 10.6 Ethereum to support the altcoinstalks forum.
PS: I don't want to make chaos worse in this thread and I need a press conference that is very real, honest and really has no problems. :)
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This is like a very urgent trust bet, because it involves the Mixer Bitcoin project which has been operating for a long time, Teleported members who have a lot of +Trust , new altcoinstalks members who have donated 10.6 Ethereum to support the altcoinstalks forum.
As others have said - we really can’t say anything further until Unijoin comes to the forum and give their statement about what might have happened.
To be honest - at first I thought @jessuni was just a troll trying to gain attention but after seeing that he has acquired a VIP badge costing him 10.1 ETH I’m starting to think it’s true that he might encountered some issue while missing his coin. But without anything from Unijoin there’s nothing we can do other than speculate on the possible cause of the problem.
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I notified UniJoin.
However, I think this is nonsense, especially since I have 2 letters of guarantee that I downloaded over the last week (accordingly, I used UniJoin twice). And all the information, including the key, matches what is indicated on the site.
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Now the main thread about this situation is here:
https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=317783
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I will quote myself and dkbit98:
You don't have to answer anything and you clearly have enough money to buy stuff, so I could speculate that you are maybe coming from some competition mixer or maybe you are the fed.
I didn't saw a single proof so yeah, I have the full right not to believe in anything I read until I see something.
Cheers.
100%
I bet that we are with someone from another mixing service who is willing to pay to harm Unijoin's reputation.
I used Unijoin multiple times this week again, and I still never had any issue with it. I guess that some amounts I mixed would have attracted some "exit scammers", and I still received my funds as usual.
So OPs wall of text means nothing to me right now.
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I will quote myself and dkbit98:
You don't have to answer anything and you clearly have enough money to buy stuff, so I could speculate that you are maybe coming from some competition mixer or maybe you are the fed.
I didn't saw a single proof so yeah, I have the full right not to believe in anything I read until I see something.
Cheers.
100%
I bet that we are with someone from another mixing service who is willing to pay to harm Unijoin's reputation.
I used Unijoin multiple times this week again, and I still never had any issue with it. I guess that some amounts I mixed would have attracted some "exit scammers", and I still received my funds as usual.
So OPs wall of text means nothing to me right now.
You are completely right and what you said in the comment you quoted is totally very possible, happy that icopress have notified the unijoin team and I hope they step in and clarify the issue.
If they come and say that the accuser's claim never happened, then we all assume the accuser is possibly from another mixing service sent here to try to sabotage unijoin, then the accuser will have no other option than post proof to support his claim if actually what he claim indeed happen.
Him being a VIP here by means of donating 10 eth to the forum is not enough reason to straight away believe his claim, any body can donate and become a VIP, even a scammer.
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happy that icopress have notified the unijoin team and I hope they step in and clarify the issue.
They will do that if they believe the case is worth clarifying, but if the accuser has no 'case' at all, i would not be surprised if a rep from Unijoin does not stop by here to clarify things.
Him being a VIP here by means of donating 10 eth to the forum is not enough reason to straight away believe his claim, any body can donate and become a VIP, even a scammer.
These are two different situations, donating to the forum is good, because i think it helps the forum raise funds, but this accusation is entirely different from that, and they both have no connection, neither does it prove right or wrong.
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UniJoin's official answer.
Recently, we learned of a claim indicating that a user was defrauded by UniJoin. However, a closer look reveals that the shared letter of guarantee is missing UniJoin's public key, which is a crucial element and is accessible to the public on our platform. This indicates that no order was ever placed through UniJoin.
When presented with an incorrect letter of guarantee, there are multiple scenarios that could have occurred. It's not uncommon for us to receive requests from individuals who upload letters of guarantee without any prior deposits for an attend to receive BTC refunds. A second possible scenario is where consumers might have unintentionally accessed a phishing website and sent Bitcoin to a fraudulent website.
We find such phishing websites very frequently and are constantly working to shut each and every one of them down. Our community is also actively fighting this problem, and over the past six months, Bitcointalk users have repeatedly united their efforts to stop fraudulent activities in telegrams, websites and others (we are talking about dozens of phishing attempts). Lastly we do not exclude the possible scenario in that another company will make up these allegations in order to harm our name.
We also do not refer to our crystal clear reputation, and the fact that our platform is used by thousands of people every month, since the reputation component is not relevant to this issue. As for the technical part, It's difficult for us to carry out a comprehensive investigation in the absence of additional proof. It's important to remember, though, that the shared letter of guarantee does not contain our public key, which verifies that UniJoin was not used to process the order.
We sincerely thank you for your attention to this matter and reassure you that maintaining the integrity of our platform always remains our top priority.
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On my own behalf, I can add that I have no doubt what they are saying, especially considering how many phishing sites you guys and I reported on BitcoinTalk.
Yes, the user made a large donation to the forum so that others would take his words seriously, and I and others did so. But having examined the text in detail, I also consider any accusations against UniJoin to be unfounded (I’m not saying that he did not become the target of scammers .. perhaps this is so). But an excerpt from a chat with technical support with the questions “Is this your public key?” This is not enough. Just as it is not enough to state that “I am 100% sure that I used the official website.”
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Thanks for the update icopress. (if you are still on line, tell them that their official presence here on the forum is definitely necessary)
I am also closer to believing Unijoin's words, regardless of his great donation to this forum.
Certainly, not enough evidence was presented to support his accusations. Plus some illogicality in the first presentation of the problem and all subsequent explanations were not convincing.
Everything is under the pretext of protecting privacy, although I think that sending a 10ETH donation is not exactly the highest level of privacy.
This case can be easily provable, user jessuni can choose one of the trusted members of this forum or maybe BItcointalk to whom he will present all the evidence privately. A member whose judgment no one doubts. We had several such cases in the past.
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UniJoin's official answer.
User claims that he received some mixed coins back from Unijon, but not all of them.
It looks like both sides are telling us to believe their words, and I still didn't saw a single proof of lost coins.
He claims that he can't reveal any information because of his privacy, and I can respect that, but then nobody should support his scam accusation without proof.
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User claims that he received some mixed coins back from Unijon, but not all of them.
It looks like both sides are telling us to believe their words, and I still didn't saw a single proof of lost coins.
He claims that he can't reveal any information because of his privacy, and I can respect that, but then nobody should support his scam accusation without proof.
Right.
I don’t want to talk about any conspiracies, but when it comes to big money, you can invest in a black PR campaign. Especially against the backdrop that YoMix came under the radar of the US authorities and the network of mixers based on the Jambler is undergoing maintenance.
There aren't many good options left in the niche for mixing coins, and UniJoin is one of them.
Ed: I can’t find who recently published news about YoMix on another forum
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There's phishing UniJoin websites so should've mentioned the address he's deposited funds. He hasn't given evidence against UniJoin so we don't know he's saying the truth so it's an unfounded allegation I don't know about his large donation to a forum but he's saying UniJoin scammed him he should've given proof without it ppl can't accept his word.
On my own behalf, I can add that I have no doubt what they are saying, especially considering how many phishing sites you guys and I reported on BitcoinTalk.
Yes, the user made a large donation to the forum so that others would take his words seriously, and I and others did so. But having examined the text in detail, I also consider any accusations against UniJoin to be unfounded (I’m not saying that he did not become the target of scammers .. perhaps this is so). But an excerpt from a chat with technical support with the questions “Is this your public key?” This is not enough. Just as it is not enough to state that “I am 100% sure that I used the official website.”
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UniJoin's official answer.
User claims that he received some mixed coins back from Unijon, but not all of them.
It looks like both sides are telling us to believe their words, and I still didn't saw a single proof of lost coins.
He claims that he can't reveal any information because of his privacy, and I can respect that, but then nobody should support his scam accusation without proof.
You are completely right with your last statement, no sensible person will or should support a scam accusation without proof.
Yeah, it's right to respect privacy and all that, but when a situation gets really serious, we have to weigh both and know which is more important to us, whether it be our privacy, or the money at stake, and this is case, the money at stake is really large, so personally, in the absence of the accuser providing proof of the transaction, and also considering what unijoin themselves have said, I would personally assume two things..
1. That the transaction the accuser claimed happened, which turned out a loss to him, never happened, and he was probably hired, or is from another mixing service, here to try to dent the good image and reputation of unijoin.
2. He fell for scammers, and he knows it, and there is no need for him sharing the transaction id here, since we all will find out and blame him for falling for scammers, and he's here, trying to use unijoin as a bailout.
If non of the above be the case, then I hope he comes on and prove us wrong.
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User claims that he received some mixed coins back from Unijon, but not all of them.
It looks like both sides are telling us to believe their words, and I still didn't saw a single proof of lost coins.
He claims that he can't reveal any information because of his privacy, and I can respect that, but then nobody should support his scam accusation without proof.
Right.
I don’t want to talk about any conspiracies, but when it comes to big money, you can invest in a black PR campaign. Especially against the backdrop that YoMix came under the radar of the US authorities and the network of mixers based on the Jambler is undergoing maintenance.
There aren't many good options left in the niche for mixing coins, and UniJoin is one of them.
Ed: I can’t find who recently published news about YoMix on another forum
You can invest in black PR, but no matter how you look at it, it will remain PR, perhaps it will even attract more attention to the resource. It’s not entirely clear why exactly he did this. Let’s say a person really lost his money, so what? He left it just like that, or Has the trial gone closed? There are more questions than answers.Unclear.
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Hello @Unijoin
The French translation of the website is not good. We can see a lot of mistakes and a lot of things which does not have any sense.
For example:
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/02/26/YWBNl.png)
we can't use a litteral translation in this case; "bûches" in French means this ;D :
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/02/26/YWg41.png)
Many other things are not ok, at least in French. I know that time is precious and that translations are never the first priority, but I think that this could give a bad image of the service in an unfair way to non-English-speaking users.
If you want, I can help with the correction of the whole translation.
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If non of the above be the case, then I hope he comes on and prove us wrong.
I don’t think we’ll be seeing him again - I just checked his profile and it’s almost like a week since he last logged into his account, if he had any evidence he would have dropped them since.
I guess it’s time we start a new topic for proper discussion and forget about him.
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Hi there!
You're all invited to try your chance to win a nice Unijoin card 8)
[FREE RAFFLE] - Custom UniJoin Card, (#7)! (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=318581.msg1508415#msg1508415)
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/09/01/mUQuG.png) (https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/09/01/mUMof.png)
Good luck to everyone!
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Hi there!
You're all invited to try your chance to win a nice Unijoin card 8)
[FREE RAFFLE] - Custom UniJoin Card, (#7)! (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=318581.msg1508415#msg1508415)
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/09/01/mUQuG.png) (https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/09/01/mUMof.png)
Good luck to everyone!
This are very beautiful, I would honestly love to have one, the first of it's kind I will ever have actually.
But unfortunately, I already read it's not for sale, I've already submitted my application for the raffle draw, hopefully, I be lucky.
But then, I hope shipping is free for every part of the world, or is it for selected countries? I think this should be stated clearly so that participants have a clear picture.
Anyways, thanks very much UniJoin for such a wonderful gift to the community, very well appreciated.
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This are very beautiful, I would honestly love to have one, the first of it's kind I will ever have actually.
But unfortunately, I already read it's not for sale, I've already submitted my application for the raffle draw, hopefully, I be lucky.
But then, I hope shipping is free for every part of the world, or is it for selected countries? I think this should be stated clearly so that participants have a clear picture.
Anyways, thanks very much UniJoin for such a wonderful gift to the community, very well appreciated.
Yeah I won one in a previous raffle and can confirm they are beautiful, very nice collectibles.
Hope you'll be lucky and win one of them :)
Shipping is free for everyone, you don't have to worry about that.
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Yeah I won one in a previous raffle and can confirm they are beautiful, very nice collectibles.
Do the cards have their packaging, a box or similar, or are packed only in transport packaging?
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You're all invited to try your chance to win a nice Unijoin card 8)
Thank you for another free competition!
This Unijon cards are looking amazing, and they are even better if they are preloaded with some bitcoins ;D
Are you sending this cards in normal envelopes with free worldwide shipping?
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Do the cards have their packaging, a box or similar, or are packed only in transport packaging?
The packaging is only transport-related, when I received the card it was protected by a plastic zip
Thank you for another free competition!
This Unijon cards are looking amazing, and they are even better if they are preloaded with some bitcoins ;D
Are you sending this cards in normal envelopes with free worldwide shipping?
Unfortunately, the cards #7-#19 are not BTC loaded, but they're still some nice collectibles indeed :)
I don't ship the cards myself, but I can tell that when I received mine, it was in a rigid envelope and very well protected!
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Unfortunately, the cards #7-#19 are not BTC loaded, but they're still some nice collectibles indeed :)
Maybe in some future giveaways we can have new unijoin preloaded cards ;D
They look the same from the outside, and it can be a great idea t give someone as a gift.
I don't ship the cards myself, but I can tell that when I received mine, it was in a rigid envelope and very well protected!
Who is sending the cards?
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Thank you for another free competition!
This Unijon cards are looking amazing, and they are even better if they are preloaded with some bitcoins ;D
Are you sending this cards in normal envelopes with free worldwide shipping?
Unfortunately, the cards #7-#19 are not BTC loaded, but they're still some nice collectibles indeed :)
Sorry @paid2, I have a very noob question to ask, and please don't crucify me for asking, I have never physically seen or owned any of such cards as this before, so, if I win one in the current contest, it surely will be my first ever.
Are this card bitcoin wallet? Because I understand they have an address and also a private key, I assumed them to act like a hardware wallet or something, where it's holders can store bitcoin right?
And if they come preloaded with bitcoin, does the company still give it out for free?
And another question I have is, how durable are the cards, like, how long can one use them? Do they get spoilt or expired like an Atm card do?
Thanks in advance, for the answers.
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Hello @Unijoin
The French translation of the website is not good. We can see a lot of mistakes and a lot of things which does not have any sense.
For example:
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/02/26/YWBNl.png)
we can't use a litteral translation in this case; "bûches" in French means this ;D :
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/02/26/YWg41.png)
Many other things are not ok, at least in French. I know that time is precious and that translations are never the first priority, but I think that this could give a bad image of the service in an unfair way to non-English-speaking users.
If you want, I can help with the correction of the whole translation.
Yes, that would be wonderful! I look forward to receiving information from you that I will forward to UniJoin.
Btw, custom cards will be sent by Cygan
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Sorry @paid2, I have a very noob question to ask, and please don't crucify me for asking, I have never physically seen or owned any of such cards as this before, so, if I win one in the current contest, it surely will be my first ever.
Are this card bitcoin wallet? Because I understand they have an address and also a private key, I assumed them to act like a hardware wallet or something, where it's holders can store bitcoin right?
And if they come preloaded with bitcoin, does the company still give it out for free?
And another question I have is, how durable are the cards, like, how long can one use them? Do they get spoilt or expired like an Atm card do?
Thanks in advance, for the answers.
Yes absolutely, this kind of cards does have a private key (masked) and a QR code for the public address. You can store coins on it, and when you need to use/withdraw the coins you can import the private key in a wallet (like Electrum for example).
Cards #7-#19 does not come loaded with Bitcoin, you would have to load them yourself if you want so :)
These cards are durable: as long as you want you will be able to add or withdraw coins, like any BTC private key. They don't expire or does not have any time-limit or anything. :)
Don't hesitate if you have any questions or if this isn't clear enough! :)
Yes, that would be wonderful! I look forward to receiving information from you that I will forward to UniJoin.
Great! I will create a localise.biz account, and give you the credentials for UniJoin when I am ready :)
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Exactly the same thing happens with the Spanish translation. Grammatical errors and extra words that shouldn't be in some sentences, and also in one of the blog posts. I haven't read all the posts, but there may be similar errors in other posts. It is possible that the rest of the languages are also affected, but I cannot be sure.
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Hi there!
You're all invited to try your chance to win a nice Unijoin card 8)
[FREE RAFFLE] - Custom UniJoin Card, (#7)! (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=318581.msg1508415#msg1508415)
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/09/01/mUQuG.png) (https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/09/01/mUMof.png)
Good luck to everyone!
If you set a bitcoin logo on this card it would look the most beautiful and like a star in the sky. Add the bitcoin logo if you keep trying it again next time.
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Hi there!
You're all invited to try your chance to win a nice Unijoin card 8)
[FREE RAFFLE] - Custom UniJoin Card, (#7)! (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=318581.msg1508415#msg1508415)
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/09/01/mUQuG.png) (https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/09/01/mUMof.png)
Good luck to everyone!
If you set a bitcoin logo on this card it would look the most beautiful and like a star in the sky. Add the bitcoin logo if you keep trying it again next time.
The uni join card would have looked much better if it had the bitcoin logo on the side. Free Raffle I joined I like it very much.
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The uni join card would have looked much better if it had the bitcoin logo on the side. Free Raffle I joined I like it very much.
I think UniJoin card looks great the way it is. I also joined the raffle and I am hoping to win a card. Let's see who will be the lucky one to have the card or who will be the lucky ones to have those cards. I'm very sure that whoever the raffle will be a lucky one. I'm waiting for the results to see will win the raffle.
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The uni join card would have looked much better if it had the bitcoin logo on the side. Free Raffle I joined I like it very much.
I think UniJoin card looks great the way it is. I also joined the raffle and I am hoping to win a card. Let's see who will be the lucky one to have the card or who will be the lucky ones to have those cards. I'm very sure that whoever the raffle will be a lucky one. I'm waiting for the results to see will win the raffle.
The raffle is finished, You didn't win anything.
User @trendcoin is the winner, it has already been announced.
Congrats to trendcoin ! 8) 8) 8)
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/03/04/yQkPW.png)
I'll take the c, if possible.
Thanks for the raffle. Winning is not important at all, the important thing is to participate and share the excitement here. I congratulate the winner in advance. Paid2 thank you again.
c - trendcoin
I will PM you very soon!
Thank you to everyone who took part and see you again very soon for a new raffle! :)
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The raffle is finished, You didn't win anything.
User @trendcoin is the winner, it has already been announced.
Yep, he deserves that one bro! Best of luck to him and I'm happy that he won the raffle. I participated in that raffle to test my luck but it was in his luck and that's why I'm very happy for him! :)
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Hi there!
You're all invited to try your chance to win a nice Unijoin card 8)
[FREE RAFFLE] - Custom UniJoin Card, (#7)! (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=318581.msg1508415#msg1508415)
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/09/01/mUQuG.png) (https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/09/01/mUMof.png)
Good luck to everyone!
If you set a bitcoin logo on this card it would look the most beautiful and like a star in the sky. Add the bitcoin logo if you keep trying it again next time.
The uni join card would have looked much better if it had the bitcoin logo on the side. Free Raffle I joined I like it very much.
Yes I support your argument as there was a need to have a bitcoin logo. If it had a nice looking bitcoin logo it would look nicer as well and all the users would be interested in getting it. So I would like to know your advice whether it is correct to do this in a new way and give bitcoin logo. Would it be good to give the logo?
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Yes I support your argument as there was a need to have a bitcoin logo. If it had a nice looking bitcoin logo it would look nicer as well and all the users would be interested in getting it. So I would like to know your advice whether it is correct to do this in a new way and give bitcoin logo. Would it be good to give the logo?
Why do you think having the unijoin.io logo on the card is not good enough?
Go to Icarus’ website[1] and see the look of other cards (that have btc logo) that have been designed, when you're done come back to this thread and tell which one of them has a nicer design compared to Unijoin’s. It's not a must that they should be a big-ass-looking Bitcoin logo for it to be attractive, the current design looks stunning already.
[1] https://icarus-cards.eu/shop/
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I see that Freemind has pointed out that there are errors with the Spanish translation. I can help with it but now I was trying to access the page and it won't load. I guess it is translated with automatic translator. The google one is a bit bad next to Deepl.com but what is amazing is the AI. You can tell it to translate a text into Spanish with Colombian style, for example, and it writes it very correctly.
So, icopress, if you want me to take a look at the Spanish version, let me know (I don't know if Freemind has offered too).
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I see that Freemind has pointed out that there are errors with the Spanish translation. I can help with it but now I was trying to access the page and it won't load. I guess it is translated with automatic translator. The google one is a bit bad next to Deepl.com but what is amazing is the AI. You can tell it to translate a text into Spanish with Colombian style, for example, and it writes it very correctly.
So, icopress, if you want me to take a look at the Spanish version, let me know (I don't know if Freemind has offered too).
Working on a localise.biz account. Actually grabbing the english version of the site. If you want, I can share with you the account once I am ready. I am sure that a good Spanish version would be welcome for UniJoin :)
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Working on a localise.biz account. Actually grabbing the english version of the site. If you want, I can share with you the account once I am ready. I am sure that a good Spanish version would be welcome for UniJoin :)
Yes, thank you. I can do a human translation for the Unijoin website but I wanted to see for myself how it has been translated into Spanish on the site (I've only visited the English version so far) but I don't know what's going on that I can't access with Tor today.
I also wanted to make sure beforehand that Freemind had not offered to do it. I don't mind if he wants to do it.
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but I don't know what's going on that I can't access with Tor today.
The onion link is working fine from my side
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The onion link is working fine from my side
Well, as you said that, I tried again and now I have been able to access. I see that, indeed, the Spanish version could improve some things. As I said, they have probably used an automatic translator and in general everything is understandable but there are some things that don't sound natural and things that don't match, such as speaking to the potential customer in some moments as tú (informal) and in others as usted (formal).
I'm waiting for icopress and/or Freemind to say something. I think it will cost me more work than the translation of the Ann.
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Did you guys see Unijon service was added on Kycnot website?
If I am not mistakes this is the first bitcoin mixer listed and approved there, and Unijon have very high rating 9 currently.
Maybe other mixers will be added in future but for now this is Unijoin page: https://kycnot.me/service/unijoin
(https://images2.imgbox.com/f7/81/2PR4gpiU_o.jpg)
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Did you guys see Unijon service was added on Kycnot website?
If I am not mistakes this is the first bitcoin mixer listed and approved there, and Unijon have very high rating 9 currently.
Maybe other mixers will be added in future but for now this is Unijoin page: https://kycnot.me/service/unijoin (https://kycnot.me/service/unijoin)
Yeap if I am not wrong it is since some months now.
Also, UniJoin should be added to tor.taxi soon! :)
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Well, as you said that, I tried again and now I have been able to access. I see that, indeed, the Spanish version could improve some things. As I said, they have probably used an automatic translator and in general everything is understandable but there are some things that don't sound natural and things that don't match, such as speaking to the potential customer in some moments as tú (informal) and in others as usted (formal).
I'm waiting for icopress and/or Freemind to say something. I think it will cost me more work than the translation of the Ann.
If you translated the Ann and want to help paid2 translate the things we mentioned on the website, go ahead, no problem. As you already know, they are not important things, but solving them will always make the website look better. For my part there is no problem, and if you need anything, you know that I am willing to help you with whatever is necessary. Just send me a PM.
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Feel free to join to try your chance to win a nice Unijoin card again 8)
[FREE RAFFLE] - Custom UniJoin Card, (#8)! (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=318964.0)
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Good luck!
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Yeap if I am not wrong it is since some months now.
There was never any mixer listed on that website for as long as I was following it.
They recently updated website, made some design changes and they added few more services.
Anyone can submit a service there but they need to approve, and there was a pending list but I can't find it now.
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Feel free to join to try your chance to win a nice Unijoin card again 8)
I've applied, hopefully luck is on my side this time.
there was a pending list but I can't find it now.
This pending list? https://kycnot.me/pending
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Yeap if I am not wrong it is since some months now.
There was never any mixer listed on that website for as long as I was following it.
They recently updated website, made some design changes and they added few more services.
Anyone can submit a service there but they need to approve, and there was a pending list but I can't find it now.
Then I guess this show how reliable and verified the unijoin mixers and this also breaks the barrier for mixers too because alot of these mixers tend to be look at with wrong perception and the government are the ones portraying this and that's why mixers had to be restricted on Bitcointalk. But all the same, in due time more mixers will be guaranteed approval and the industry will just continue striving.
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Feel free to join to try your chance to win a nice Unijoin card again 8)
[FREE RAFFLE] - Custom UniJoin Card, (#8)! (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=318964.0)
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Good luck!
Adding the Bitcoin Logo
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Adding the Bitcoin Logo
These are personalized designed Unijoin cards, they contain Unijoin's logo and everything else that is needed. A promotional item for collectors, I don't see why it is important to have the Bitcoin logo on it.
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Adding the Bitcoin Logo
These are personalized designed Unijoin cards, they contain Unijoin's logo and everything else that is needed. A promotional item for collectors, I don't see why it is important to have the Bitcoin logo on it.
Perhaps because it's a completely bitcoin service and promotes bitcoin that's why the inspiration 😉
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Did you guys see Unijon service was added on Kycnot website?
If I am not mistakes this is the first bitcoin mixer listed and approved there, and Unijon have very high rating 9 currently.
It is great that Unijoin's submission was approved, kycnot.me is recommended website when looking for services that require no kyc and now people can find Unijoin in list of services published there. It also looks like it is the first mixer to be published on that site, which is another +.
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Adding the Bitcoin Logo
These are personalized designed Unijoin cards, they contain Unijoin's logo and everything else that is needed. A promotional item for collectors, I don't see why it is important to have the Bitcoin logo on it.
I request to add this, because adding the Bitcoin logo would make the four look much nicer. [Though this is a personal design of Uni Join Campaign] I published my comment because of this. If it looks good then I think Uni join is company's profit.
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Yes I support your argument as there was a need to have a bitcoin logo. If it had a nice looking bitcoin logo it would look nicer as well and all the users would be interested in getting it. So I would like to know your advice whether it is correct to do this in a new way and give bitcoin logo. Would it be good to give the logo?
Why do you think having the unijoin.io logo on the card is not good enough?
Go to Icarus’ website[1] and see the look of other cards (that have btc logo) that have been designed, when you're done come back to this thread and tell which one of them has a nicer design compared to Unijoin’s. It's not a must that they should be a big-ass-looking Bitcoin logo for it to be attractive, the current design looks stunning already.
[1] https://icarus-cards.eu/shop/
Well, I honestly agree with you, the current design of the Unijoin card is indeed very beautiful, most especially, the color which gives it a very deep and crystal look, makes it look very quality and premium, even while a person is yet to see and touch the card physically.
But however, I will also buy into the idea of adding a small bitcoin logo if possible, since the card functions as a bitcoin wallet, a small or tiny bitcoin logo in one of the top corners won't look so bad on the card to be honest, that wont damage the current design, and seeing that logo, anyone who have never heard about Unijoin before should already be able to tell what the card represents through the bitcoin logo.
But anyways, I honestly do not see any of this as something that is really important, if it's very easy to include a bitcoin logo at one of the top corners, that would be nice, but in the absence of any easy way to do this, the card is still very perfectly beautiful as it is.
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A new UniJoin's article is available guys :)
Who controls the information detains the power and the State knows this very well. That's why we have prepared for you the article "Why do you want to hide? Because I can! (https://unijoin.medium.com/why-do-you-want-to-hide-because-i-can-1d21d81114b2)" which will talk about the right to confidentiality and what serious efforts need to be made to defend your rights in modern realities. Enjoy reading!
Why do you want to hide? Because I can! (https://unijoin.medium.com/why-do-you-want-to-hide-because-i-can-1d21d81114b2)
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A new UniJoin's article is available guys :)
Who controls the information detains the power and the State knows this very well. That's why we have prepared for you the article "Why do you want to hide? Because I can! (https://unijoin.medium.com/why-do-you-want-to-hide-because-i-can-1d21d81114b2)" which will talk about the right to confidentiality and what serious efforts need to be made to defend your rights in modern realities. Enjoy reading!
Why do you want to hide? Because I can! (https://unijoin.medium.com/why-do-you-want-to-hide-because-i-can-1d21d81114b2)
What a great article written by Unijoin team on Medium.com! I have read the whole article and it really goes deep into explaining privacy and benefit of using Bitcoin and mixers. The article also highlights Satoshi Nakamoto for creating Bitcoin a payment system which anyone can use without any restriction. Thanks Unijoin team for writing such a detailed article on privacy.
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A new UniJoin's article is available guys :)
Who controls the information detains the power and the State knows this very well. That's why we have prepared for you the article "Why do you want to hide? Because I can! (https://unijoin.medium.com/why-do-you-want-to-hide-because-i-can-1d21d81114b2)" which will talk about the right to confidentiality and what serious efforts need to be made to defend your rights in modern realities. Enjoy reading!
Why do you want to hide? Because I can! (https://unijoin.medium.com/why-do-you-want-to-hide-because-i-can-1d21d81114b2)
What a great article written by Unijoin team on Medium.com! I have read the whole article and it really goes deep into explaining privacy and benefit of using Bitcoin and mixers. The article also highlights Satoshi Nakamoto for creating Bitcoin a payment system which anyone can use without any restriction. Thanks Unijoin team for writing such a detailed article on privacy.
Saw the article when it was posted by icopress on our campaign telegram channel, actually, I've been pretty busy all through today, hadn't had much time to do anything online, but I did managed to read a very small part of the article, and i can tell that indeed, it's one worthy of everyone's attention, I've saved the article and will read it in full later tonight.
Privacy is an essential human right, humans have absolutely right to keep somethings in their lives private, but unfortunately, the government just want control everyone and everything, all thanks to bitcoin that have made this agenda very difficult for the government, and thanks to mixers that are also adding extra layers to suport privacy.
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Privacy is an essential human right, humans have absolutely right to keep somethings in their lives private, but unfortunately, the government just want control everyone and everything, all thanks to bitcoin that have made this agenda very difficult for the government, and thanks to mixers that are also adding extra layers to suport privacy.
Exactly, the governments have always been trying to watch us and break our privacy, they want to know everything about our dealings and transactions. In traditional banking system, they have full control over us and our transactions but now when Bitcoin is part of our lives we can have some relief because after Bitcoin they can't really break our privacy anymore and thanks to mixers for making Bitcoin more privacy oriented.
Someone who values privacy would always go with mixers and when it comes to mixers Unijoin is always a name people remember. Most of the mixer users have heard about Unijoin because it's one of the most established mixers and has been giving its services with 100% honesty. Moreover, the UniJoin is posting very good stuff on their Medium account which is no less than a reward for privacy oriented users.
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Someone who values privacy would always go with mixers and when it comes to mixers Unijoin is always a name people remember. Most of the mixer users have heard about Unijoin because it's one of the most established mixers and has been giving its services with 100% honesty. Moreover, the UniJoin is posting very good stuff on their Medium account which is no less than a reward for privacy oriented users.
Yeah, you are very correct, UniJoin has moved their way up to becoming one of the top mixers out there, in field where competition is the order of the day, Unijoin have managed to provide their users really good mixing service, low fees for their services, this has not only increased their customer base, it has also earned them a lot of trust and alot of customers as well.
I am happy 😊 being part of the UniJoin family by promoting their services on this forum, and I will be happy here for as long as they remain - wishing Unijoin a really long life in this industry.
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I am happy 😊 being part of the UniJoin family by promoting their services on this forum, and I will be happy here for as long as they remain - wishing Unijoin a really long life in this industry.
Yeah!
I wonder how the mixers market will evolve in the long term.
I am not worrying for UniJoin, as the service is stable, reliable and they do a lot for the community. In the future, I'd love to see UniJoin develop their own non-custodial wallet with an integrated, user-friendly Coinjoin function, could be great to have access to their services from a wallet.
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Hi friends !
You can try your luck to win a nice Unijoin card again 8)
[FREE RAFFLE] - Custom UniJoin Card, (#9)! (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=319178)
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/09/01/mUQuG.png) (https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/09/01/mUMof.png)
Good luck! :)
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Privacy is an essential human right, humans have absolutely right to keep somethings in their lives private, but unfortunately, the government just want to control everyone and everything, all thanks to Bitcoin that have made this agenda very difficult for the government, and thanks to mixers that are also adding extra layers to suport privacy.
I just went through the article (I've been unable to do so due to some health issue)and the last quote at the bottom of the article really hits deep.
“If privacy is outlawed, only outlaws will have privacy.” ― Philip Zimmermann
Privacy is essential but it’s very sad when you you see the people we have in power trying to fight all services that have to do with privacy just so that they can take it away from us.
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Why do you want to hide? Because I can! (https://unijoin.medium.com/why-do-you-want-to-hide-because-i-can-1d21d81114b2)
A very good reply to people who ask 'why do you want to hide?' because i surely can and i do not want you to have all the information of what i do with my money. I read the article and it is a short and good read, it is not uncommon to hear people ask why we want privacy if we know we are not criminals, in society today, if you seek privacy seriously, people begin to suspect you to be a criminal, when it should be a normal thing that every human should want to have. Unijoin is so important as it aids its users to achieve better privacy.
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In the future, I'd love to see UniJoin develop their own non-custodial wallet with an integrated, user-friendly Coinjoin function, could be great to have access to their services from a wallet.
I don't think there is any good way to use centralized mixing services with integrated non-custodial wallet, but I would like to be wrong about that.
You have to sacrifice one thing, either make custodial wallet or switch to decentralized service, and second option is better of two.
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Everyone is welcome to join the new [FREE RAFFLE] - Custom UniJoin Card, (#10)! (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=319458) 8)
Try your luck to win the 10th Unijoin custom card!
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Everyone is welcome to join the new
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Thanks for all you do, @paid2.
Goodluck to all participants in this round of Unijoin`s raffle.
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Everyone is welcome to join the new [FREE RAFFLE] - Custom UniJoin Card, (#10)! (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=319458) 8)
Glad I came around again, I participated in round 7 and 8, but missed round 9, round 8 look like it came around really fast, I missed the announcement of the winner, which I learnt now that its Cantsay who won - big congratulations to him and sorry for my bilated congratulatory message.
I missed participating in round 9, maybe I would have been the one to win that round :D but all the same, congratulations to Learn Bitcoin, he's still a very worthy candidate...
I've taken my position in the current round, I am ready to win or keep trying until I win 😀.
Good job everyone, let's keep it going..
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Working on a localise.biz account. Actually grabbing the english version of the site. If you want, I can share with you the account once I am ready. I am sure that a good Spanish version would be welcome for UniJoin :)
Hey, did you do the translation in the end? I think I'll have more time in a week's time and while I'm at it I'd like to do the translation in Spanish. I've never worked with localise.biz, but I imagine it's similar to editing on the same website, is that so? If you prefer we can talk about it by PM.
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Hey, did you do the translation in the end? I think I'll have more time in a week's time and while I'm at it I'd like to do the translation in Spanish. I've never worked with localise.biz, but I imagine it's similar to editing on the same website, is that so? If you prefer we can talk about it by PM.
Thank you for your message Don Pedro Dinero. I am not ready yet with the translation, but I will send you a PM with the login infos as soon as I will be.
Localise.biz is indeed like many other websites for translators: I am filling up the english version of UniJoin, and then anybody will be able to go and translate to their native language directly via the interface. Once we'll be done, we'll just need to give the account to UniJoin.
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I've taken my position in the current round, I am ready to win or keep trying until I win 😀.
Good job everyone, let's keep it going..
Yes, I have also participated in one raffle and unfortunately it was a loss. After that I haven't participated in any raffle due to time restriction, but I wish you may win this time. I hope that your luck may favor you and you may win the raffle this time. Best of luck!
I'm soon going to be testing the Unijoin's site and gonna prepare my review within two weeks. I'm happy to see that Unijoin is sponsoring those raffles and giving away the reward to the winners. And, I'm also happy to see that paid2 is taking care of the raffles on behalf of Unijoin.
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UniJoin just published a new article :)
Why do we need to protect our privacy? (https://unijoin.medium.com/why-do-we-need-to-protect-our-privacy-528b0a2dd22b)
An earlier essay (https://unijoin.medium.com/why-do-you-want-to-hide-because-i-can-1d21d81114b2) was explaining how the State stripped people from privacy for millennia, because holding the information about all citizen was power; and who holds such power can also control. Today we will tell you "Why do we need to protect your privacy? (https://unijoin.medium.com/why-do-we-need-to-protect-our-privacy-528b0a2dd22b)"
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I've taken my position in the current round, I am ready to win or keep trying until I win 😀.
Good job everyone, let's keep it going..
Yes, I have also participated in one raffle and unfortunately it was a loss. After that I haven't participated in any raffle due to time restriction, but I wish you may win this time. I hope that your luck may favor you and you may win the raffle this time. Best of luck!
Thanks for the good wishes bud, sincerely appreciate it, but all the same, participating alone is already fun enough and gives a good vibe and pleasure, and even more interesting is that fact that it cost nothing to participate..
So, even if I don't win in this round or next, I am always happy to keep trying again in the rounds that follow, definitely, one of the rounds will by my lucky one, as long as the rounds keep coming, even though I know it won't keep coming forever.
I'm soon going to be testing the Unijoin's site and gonna prepare my review within two weeks.
Good luck with this bud, I actually tested the UniJoin's bitcoin mixing service several weeks ago, if I can still remember well, should be like 5 to 6 weeks ago, but because of time due to my very busy schedule both online and offline, I forget to make a comprehensive report to post here as my review, but nonetheless, I am hoping to use the site again very soon, and this time, I should remember to post the review since it's an important requirement for the UniJoin signature ad campaign.
I will be looking forward to reading your review though.
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Join us and try your luck to win the 11th Custom UniJoin card ;)
[FREE RAFFLE] - Custom UniJoin Card, (#11) (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=319688.msg1526366#msg1526366)
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UniJoin just published a new article :)
Why do we need to protect our privacy? (https://unijoin.medium.com/why-do-we-need-to-protect-our-privacy-528b0a2dd22b)
I just went through this article, I have been down with some health issues but I’m much better now. I’m surprised that no one talked about this article since unijoin wrote it.
I have always thought personal information that are being stolen and sold at the dark web are being sold at a high rate like for thousands of dollars due to the things that those information can be used for, I never knew they cost that low.
The more we look around us the more we’ll discover the need to take good care of our information and prioritize keeping our privacy protected from theft.
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Can someone tell me what is the fastest way to get in touch with Unijon support?
I see there is contact form on their website, but there is no email or telegram in case website is not working for some reason.
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Can someone tell me what is the fastest way to get in touch with Unijon support?
I see there is contact form on their website, but there is no email or telegram in case website is not working for some reason.
You can still PM them on Bitcointalk (and maybe ping icopress to kindly ask them to check their BTT account in case it is urgent), but as you said I think the contact form on their website should be enough as long as the website is online
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You can still PM them on Bitcointalk (and maybe ping icopress to kindly ask them to check their BTT account in case it is urgent), but as you said I think the contact form on their website should be enough as long as the website is online
How to PM them on bitcointalk forum when they are banned and not allowed there?
I tried visiting Unijoin telegram link but it is only used for posting news and we cant contact anyone using that.
I think they should create account here.
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You can still PM them on Bitcointalk (and maybe ping icopress to kindly ask them to check their BTT account in case it is urgent), but as you said I think the contact form on their website should be enough as long as the website is online
How to PM them on bitcointalk forum when they are banned and not allowed there?
I tried visiting Unijoin telegram link but it is only used for posting news and we cant contact anyone using that.
I think they should create account here.
I thought Theymos said he was going to leave the PM of mixers account open so that they can still be receiving and sending PMs for some time.
Just try and see if it`s still active or not.
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How to PM them on bitcointalk forum when they are banned and not allowed there?
I tried visiting Unijoin telegram link but it is only used for posting news and we cant contact anyone using that.
I think they should create account here.
They are not banned (I mean their account is not banned, as the username is not a domain name IIRC) : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3459079 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3459079)
Not sure that Telegram is the best option, maybe SimpleX or Jabber would be better.
I will quote eXch contact page:
Why no Telegram?
Our communications framework consists mainly of desktop applications and Telegram doesn't support end-to-end encryption ("Secret Chats") in their desktop app since the initial release, thus we consider transmission of payment and other private data via Telegram insecure, including using bots and standard chats, since neither of them support end-to-end encryption. We do not use mobile devices due to risks associated with a wide exposure of manufactory supply chains to hardware backdoors. More details can be found here https://github.com/marcovelon/tdesktop/blob/NoSecretChats/README.md (https://github.com/marcovelon/tdesktop/blob/NoSecretChats/README.md) and in the following discussion https://github.com/marcovelon/tdesktop/issues/2 (https://github.com/marcovelon/tdesktop/issues/2)
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They are not banned (I mean their account is not banned, as the username is not a domain name IIRC) : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3459079 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3459079)
I thought wrong for all this time that all mixer accounts are banned because theymos said this is going to happen.
After visiting Unijon profile in bitcointalk forum I can see they have been active today and there is no ban.
That means they are not allowed to post only?
Not sure that Telegram is the best option, maybe SimpleX or Jabber would be better.
Maybe, but I dont know how many people are using them.
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I believe the fastest way to contact them is through Icopress, but if they are available on Bitcointalk and their account isn't banned then that could be a good option. Icopress has been managing their signature campaign from a longtime and that's why he may be in contact with them so I guess he could transfer your message to them if you ask him.
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That means they are not allowed to post only?
Nope, if mixers representatives were allowed to post, it might be seen as an indirect way to promote their site there (and so many users might create drama threads just because of it), because all they would have to do is be active in the forum, reply to threads, and keep their name at the top of threads.
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In case you're finally able to reach them, please do well to share what method you used in case someone needs the same type of assistance in the future.
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Nope, if mixers representatives were allowed to post, it might be seen as an indirect way to promote their site there (and so many users might create drama threads just because of it), because all they would have to do is be active in the forum, reply to threads, and keep their name at the top of threads.
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In case you're finally able to reach them, please do well to share what method you used in case someone needs the same type of assistance in the future.
Not a single official mixer account has been completely banned. The option of writing public posts is disabled for them, that is, the only thing they can do is communicate via PM.
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Hi guys and ladies, wanna use this medium to wish everyone here a happy Easter celebration, and in conjunction, appreciate the UniJoin bitcoin mixer team for their hardwork and dedication to the platform, also appreciate our able campaign manager @icopress, the UniJoin signature ad campaign has been running smoothly on this forum for several weeks already, and I am most grateful for the privilege to be part of this ad campaign, and I wishing every other participants too a glorious Easter celebration.
And also, first quarter of the year 2024 ends today, by 12:am tonight, we did be entering a the second quarter of the year, wishing Unijoin, our manager and everyone else a big success in the second quarter.
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Hi guys and ladies, wanna use this medium to wish everyone here a happy Easter celebration, and in conjunction, appreciate the UniJoin bitcoin mixer team for their hardwork and dedication to the platform, also appreciate our able campaign manager @icopress, the UniJoin signature ad campaign has been running smoothly on this forum for several weeks already, and I am most grateful for the privilege to be part of this ad campaign, and I wishing every other participants too a glorious Easter celebration.
And also, first quarter of the year 2024 ends today, by 12:am tonight, we did be entering a the second quarter of the year, wishing Unijoin, our manager and everyone else a big success in the second quarter.
Happy Easter to you too, even if I am a little bit late now :D
The new raffle is launched!
You can try your luck to win a nice Unijoin card 8)
[FREE RAFFLE] - Custom UniJoin Card, (#12) (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=319978.msg1531622#msg1531622)
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/09/01/mUQuG.png) (https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/09/01/mUMof.png)
Good luck!
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Hi guys and ladies, wanna use this medium to wish everyone here a happy Easter celebration, and in conjunction, appreciate the UniJoin bitcoin mixer team for their hardwork and dedication to the platform, also appreciate our able campaign manager @icopress, the UniJoin signature ad campaign has been running smoothly on this forum for several weeks already, and I am most grateful for the privilege to be part of this ad campaign, and I wishing every other participants too a glorious Easter celebration.
And also, first quarter of the year 2024 ends today, by 12:am tonight, we did be entering a the second quarter of the year, wishing Unijoin, our manager and everyone else a big success in the second quarter.
Happy Easter to you too, even if I am a little bit late now :D
😂 Haha, no time is late bud, atleast, the celebration is still on for some people..
The new raffle is launched!
You can try your luck to win a nice Unijoin card 8)
[FREE RAFFLE] - Custom UniJoin Card, (#12) (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=319978.msg1531622#msg1531622)
Good luck!
I have entered the contest once again, I've taken the last and available slot, hoping for a favorable outcome in this round, I have not been lucky in this aspect this I started participating, but still, I am never giving up, for them that give up are the ones who completely lose out, for those who keep trying, there will always be hope for a favorable outcome in the future, no matter how long it takes.
Cant wait to lay my hands on one of those beautiful cards, I will love to show it to my friends 😍
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I have entered the contest once again, I've taken the last and available slot, hoping for a favorable outcome in this round, I have not been lucky in this aspect this I started participating, but still, I am never giving up, for them that give up are the ones who completely lose out, for those who keep trying, there will always be hope for a favorable outcome in the future, no matter how long it takes.
Cant wait to lay my hands on one of those beautiful cards, I will love to show it to my friends 😍
I wish you good luck for the next one @Fivestar4everMVP :)
Salad daging (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=319978.msg1533958#msg1533958) was the lucky one this time and won the raffle!
I'll post the link to the next raffle here, as usual, early next week :)
Congratulations again to the winner and thank you all for taking part!
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In a post a few pages ago I asked how to mix funds that you have in a mobile wallet and send them to a wallet that you manage with your PC, with HW. It is as easy as from the computer to do the operation and when sending funds scan the QR that appears to send to the destination address. To receive, you put the one generated with your HW and that's it.
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I have entered the contest once again, I've taken the last and available slot, hoping for a favorable outcome in this round, I have not been lucky in this aspect this I started participating, but still, I am never giving up, for them that give up are the ones who completely lose out, for those who keep trying, there will always be hope for a favorable outcome in the future, no matter how long it takes.
Cant wait to lay my hands on one of those beautiful cards, I will love to show it to my friends 😍
I wish you good luck for the next one @Fivestar4everMVP :)
Salad daging (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=319978.msg1533958#msg1533958) was the lucky one this time and won the raffle!
I'll post the link to the next raffle here, as usual, early next week :)
Congratulations again to the winner and thank you all for taking part!
Thank you very much bud, appreciate yeah sincerely, and congratulations to Salad daging on his/her win on this round of the contest, I will be waiting for the next round and will happily participate again, again and again, doesn't matter how long it takes, I know that in one of this rounds, I will surely win as long as the rounds keep coming, so, no frets at all, very happy to be part of the UniJoin family already, winning the custom Unijoin card through the free raffle is just an impressive added bonus..
I will participate in the free raffle and patiently wait for my turn to win. 😎😎😎
In a post a few pages ago I asked how to mix funds that you have in a mobile wallet and send them to a wallet that you manage with your PC, with HW. It is as easy as from the computer to do the operation and when sending funds scan the QR that appears to send to the destination address. To receive, you put the one generated with your HW and that's it.
Well, I am surprised at this question actually, or maybe I don't understand correctly..
Mixing coins from mobile and recieving the mixed coin on a pc wallet controlled with a hardware wallet shouldn't be something that should be hard for a crypto user to figure out, since where the funds are being sent to is the address, not the wallet itself, the wallet is just an interface through which we view the amount of funds contained on an address on the blockchain.
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Well, I am surprised at this question actually, or maybe I don't understand correctly..
Mixing coins from mobile and recieving the mixed coin on a pc wallet controlled with a hardware wallet shouldn't be something that should be hard for a crypto user to figure out, since where the funds are being sent to is the address, not the wallet itself, the wallet is just an interface through which we view the amount of funds contained on an address on the blockchain.
You understood correctly. The thing is, it's so simple that I didn't realize how easy it was until I saw it. Haven't you ever been looking for something you couldn't find and it was right in front of you? Well, something similar. It was just that it was an idea I had in my head to do, and since I had never done it before I didn't realize how easy it was until I did it.
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Well, I am surprised at this question actually, or maybe I don't understand correctly..
Mixing coins from mobile and recieving the mixed coin on a pc wallet controlled with a hardware wallet shouldn't be something that should be hard for a crypto user to figure out, since where the funds are being sent to is the address, not the wallet itself, the wallet is just an interface through which we view the amount of funds contained on an address on the blockchain.
You understood correctly. The thing is, it's so simple that I didn't realize how easy it was until I saw it. Haven't you ever been looking for something you couldn't find and it was right in front of you? Well, something similar. It was just that it was an idea I had in my head to do, and since I had never done it before I didn't realize how easy it was until I did it.
Yes, it's just an interface thing.
Sometimes the simplest things are not the best if only simplicity is an advantage.
Here is my example. When I sell BTC, I do it on an exchange, which I access through the Chrome browser, and I do the verification of the transaction through the email address through the Opera browser. Otherwise, I send Bitcoin from the Trezor hardware wallet using their Suite app.
It sounds quite complicated, but it's not so much when you repeat it many times :) But that is an additional level of security.
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Sometimes the simplest things are not the best if only simplicity is an advantage.
I agree with this statement, privacy and security are better advantages to simplicity, i stand to be corrected, but in crypto, most times the simple and convenient things are always less secure. I.e. people who store funds on centralized exchanges because they want convenience, or others who use mixers, but do not add delay time or use a fresh address to receive the mixed funds, etc. For better security and privacy, you have to do more than the 'simple' things.
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A new article is available! 8)
Bitcoin: Attempts to control (https://unijoin.medium.com/bitcoin-attempts-to-control-2876fd3322f9)
Dear readers are pleased to present a new article!
In an earlier essay, we talked about why it is extremely important for each of us to protect our own privacy. Today we will clearly show (https://twitter.com/unijoinofficial/status/1777278882015580316 (https://twitter.com/unijoinofficial/status/1777278882015580316)) what steps government agencies are taking in attempts to control Bitcoin and the entire niche as a whole.
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Just want to mention to @Unijoin that the link from twitter does not load from my side: https://twitter.com/unijoinofficial/status/1777278882015580316 (https://twitter.com/unijoinofficial/status/1777278882015580316)
(https://link.medium.com/4r28zjdRCIb (https://link.medium.com/4r28zjdRCIb) leads to a error page) thank you examplens ;)
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Just want to mention to @Unijoin that the link from twitter does not load from my side: https://twitter.com/unijoinofficial/status/1777278882015580316 (https://twitter.com/unijoinofficial/status/1777278882015580316)
(https://link.medium.com/4r28zjdRCIb (https://link.medium.com/4r28zjdRCIb) leads to a error page)
I don't know if they changed something in the meantime, but for me, the links open normally. And direct and this one from Twitter.
It seems that something is wrong on your side, maybe it's time to clear your cache. ;)
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A new article is available! 8)
Bitcoin: Attempts to control (https://unijoin.medium.com/bitcoin-attempts-to-control-2876fd3322f9)
It was a bit longer than the rest but I was still able to go through it and all I can say is “wow”.
It is pretty wild to have that can of bill signed, I mean $10,000 maximum thredshold before you’ll have to be declared - assuming only fait (physical and those in bank) were the only one that would be considered it would have been better but making everything that can be identified as a “monetary instrument” a part of it just made the whole thing worse.
It feels the government are ready to go any length as long as they get to achieve their goal which is “control bitcoin” because I see no reason why a government would want to sign such bill all in disguise that they are using it to combat “money laundering” when in reality they are just trying to control what everyone does and also steal from the people in the form of tax.
It’s sad to see that up till now some people still don’t know what the effect of crypto regulation means - as stated in the article; some still cheers when they hear news about crypto regulation. Yes, it will increase its acceptability after being regulated but the problem is will the initial objective which was to give freedom to people, will you still be able to achieve it after the regulation? Those are some questions these people who keep cheering for crypto regulation have to ask themselves (although a lot of them really don’t know why bitcoin came in the first place).
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A new article is available! 8)
Bitcoin: Attempts to control (https://unijoin.medium.com/bitcoin-attempts-to-control-2876fd3322f9)
It's a quite helpful article especially for the ones who live in US. Governments are often targeting Bitcoin by using term money laundering which isn't correct. They are becoming more aggressive towards it after the hype of the ETFs.
Not only US but recently many governments are trying to find their way to grab crypto holders. It's a tough time for Bitcoin holders who live in first world countries.
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A new article is available! 8)
Bitcoin: Attempts to control (https://unijoin.medium.com/bitcoin-attempts-to-control-2876fd3322f9)
Hey, thank you for sharing this article here, I was online on telegram when the notication for this article came in, I quickly opened it, and from Twitter, I got the link to the UniJoin medium account to this article, I was actually feeling sleepy then but I still managed to read a great part of it, and I must honestly say that this is one of the best articles I've read so far from Unijoin, the article is not only highly educative, but also an eye opener, I had always been an advocate of bitcoin adoption in all levels, both in government and society, but after reading this article, I am beginning to reconsider my stand on adoption, really, I think the con of bitcoin's widespread adoption is way higher than what we, the bitcoiners stand to benefit.
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I had always been an advocate of bitcoin adoption in all levels, both in government and society, but after reading this article, I am beginning to reconsider my stand on adoption, really, I think the con of bitcoin's widespread adoption is way higher than what we, the bitcoiners stand to benefit.
Adoption is different from regulation, though i know that a lot of people share the sentiment that stricter regulation will usher more adoption for BTC, especially amongst institutional investors. We have seen in recent times how the u.s. government continues to attack crypto services and privacy solutions, and i believe if so many governments of the world become more 'powerful' over BTC, through regulations, then there is now some level of control over the network.
In order to reduce this control over the network, people have to use BTC in the right way, through p2p exchanges, self custodial wallets and privacy solutions like Unijoin, if you lose your privacy or store coins in centralized exchanges, then it is easier for the government to exert control over your coins.
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I had always been an advocate of bitcoin adoption in all levels, both in government and society, but after reading this article, I am beginning to reconsider my stand on adoption, really, I think the con of bitcoin's widespread adoption is way higher than what we, the bitcoiners stand to benefit.
Adoption is different from regulation, though i know that a lot of people share the sentiment that stricter regulation will usher more adoption for BTC, especially amongst institutional investors. We have seen in recent times how the u.s. government continues to attack crypto services and privacy solutions, and i believe if so many governments of the world become more 'powerful' over BTC, through regulations, then there is now some level of control over the network.
In order to reduce this control over the network, people have to use BTC in the right way, through p2p exchanges, self custodial wallets and privacy solutions like Unijoin, if you lose your privacy or store coins in centralized exchanges, then it is easier for the government to exert control over your coins.
When you said people should used p2p exchanges, I think being specific on the type of p2p exchange is more important than just recommending p2p exchange, for personally, I see difference in centralized p2p exchanges and a normal centralized exchange, and currently, what I believe 99 percent of crypto users currently make use of is centralized p2p exchanges, which can still be controlled by the government if and when regulation become tighter or stricter, know that it's impossible to use the p2p market on a centralized exchange..
So, right now, I think we need completely decentralized p2p platforms to take over the current heavily used centralized p2p exchanges, this, together with a non custodial wallet, and a privacy services like Unijoin will be perfect for every crypto user that truly values privacy.
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Feel free to join and try your luck to win a nice Unijoin card 8)
[FREE RAFFLE] - Custom UniJoin Card, (#13) (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=320263.msg1536819#msg1536819)
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/09/01/mUQuG.png) (https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/09/01/mUMof.png)
Good luck!
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A new article is available! 8)
Bitcoin: Attempts to control (https://unijoin.medium.com/bitcoin-attempts-to-control-2876fd3322f9)
It seems to me that whoever wrote the article either lives in the USA or at least is originally from there, or from an Anglo-Saxon country, because he or she finds the $10,000 US limit a bit outrageous. In Spain the limit for paying with cash is €1,000 ($1088.05), the same as in other European countries, and we are praying that the legislation that the EU wants to implement for crypto will leave a minimum exemption of €1,000 as well, as I would not be surprised if they want absolutely everything to be declared. I don't say this as a criticism but because if someone thinks in the USA that it is wrong and says this:
The simplest solution is avoid the United States.
Better not to come to the EU.
In any case, the legislative drift underway in both the EU and the US is worrying, and especially what is said at the end of the article:
For example, S1421 establishes a new precedent, and it is not clear where it will lead. Anyone accused of tax fraud can also be accused of money laundering, even if there is nothing illegal involved.
Reading it made me pessimistic and I think that today we enjoy a few spaces of privacy that are going to get smaller and smaller.
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Feel free to join and try your luck to win a nice Unijoin card 8)
How many of this Unijoin cards you have available for giveaway?
You are looking like Unijoin Santa that is bringing free gifts to everyone in forum ;D
This is a cool way of sharing and spreading the word about this mixer.
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Feel free to join and try your luck to win a nice Unijoin card 8)
How many of this Unijoin cards you have available for giveaway?
You are looking like Unijoin Santa that is bringing free gifts to everyone in forum ;D
This is a cool way of sharing and spreading the word about this mixer.
;D There is a total of 20 custom UniJoin cards released by Icarus, and icopress will correct me if I am wrong, but I think only cards #1 to #19 are offered to the community. The current raffle is #13 so not a lot available, as the serie is limited.
I agree, these cards are a nice way to share the project inside the community! We're lucky to have UniJoin and Icarus offering us such cool prizes!
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;D There is a total of 20 custom UniJoin cards released by Icarus, and icopress will correct me if I am wrong, but I think only cards #1 to #19 are offered to the community. The current raffle is #13 so not a lot available, as the serie is limited.
I agree, these cards are a nice way to share the project inside the community! We're lucky to have UniJoin and Icarus offering us such cool prizes!
Who is Icarus?
I dont know if he made design for this Unijoin cards, but I like it.
That is a lot of cards available for raffles and I like them and you should also make digital card project, Unijon NFT cards would be great for collection and it could be valuable.
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Who is Icarus?
I initially didn’t know much about them - but after I won unijoin’s raffle I went to do a little research on them so that I’d know what it is that I won ;D
But here’s their thread[1] in Bitcointalk - it talks about the team behind “Icarus”.
I dont know if he made design for this Unijoin cards, but I like it.
They have other nice looking cards (https://icarus-cards.eu/) - but I prefer that of unijoin. (probably because I won one, lol).
[1] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5435930.0
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Who is Icarus?
I initially didn’t know much about them - but after I won unijoin’s raffle I went to do a little research on them so that I’d know what it is that I won ;D
User @cygan from Btt is behind those Icarus cards.
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Feel free to join and try your luck to win a nice Unijoin card 8)
[FREE RAFFLE] - Custom UniJoin Card, (#13) (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=320263.msg1536819#msg1536819)
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Good luck!
We still have some available spots, don't hesitate to join the raffle :)
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Feel free to join and try your luck to win a nice Unijoin card 8)
[FREE RAFFLE] - Custom UniJoin Card, (#13) (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=320263.msg1536819#msg1536819)
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Good luck!
We still have some available spots, don't hesitate to join the raffle :)
I actually came here to ask about this, I was hoping that by now, the result and or winner for this round should have been announced, but visiting the raffle thread, I discover there are still quite a number of open spots which are yet to get filled, this shows that participation in the raffle contest seem to have slowed down a bit.
Anyways, I am hoping and believing that open spots get filled soon, and a winner announced, so we can move ahead to the next round.
;D There is a total of 20 custom UniJoin cards released by Icarus, and icopress will correct me if I am wrong, but I think only cards #1 to #19 are offered to the community. The current raffle is #13 so not a lot available, as the serie is limited.
I agree, these cards are a nice way to share the project inside the community! We're lucky to have UniJoin and Icarus offering us such cool prizes!
Who is Icarus?
I dont know if he made design for this Unijoin cards, but I like it.
That is a lot of cards available for raffles and I like them and you should also make digital card project, Unijon NFT cards would be great for collection and it could be valuable.
Sorry to say but NFTs are shit, I won't spend a dime of my hard earned money on NFTs anymore, I made that mistake in 2020, spend over 9 ethereum buying NFTs, and till this day even as a type this comment, those NFTs are still there in my wallet with absolutely no means for selling them to get my money back.
The question is, if unijoin come up with those NFTs, what are the NFTs going to be used for?, what are the holders of the NFTs going to benefit or get as a reward for holding the UniJoin NFT?
NFTs without any form of utility are completely useless.
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The question is, if unijoin come up with those NFTs, what are the NFTs going to be used for?, what are the holders of the NFTs going to benefit or get as a reward for holding the UniJoin NFT?
NFTs without any form of utility are completely useless.
Like you, I am also against NFT, at least what they currently represent and the whole hype (which I hope is coming to an end) around them. However, one of the few justified uses of NFTs could be collectibles by a service/company.
Someone will want to have a card that paid2 distributes through the raffle here, but for that, it is still necessary to provide personal information at some point. It is much simpler through NFT.
No one can say whether it will have any value someday, but it could be interesting for collectors.
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Sorry to say but NFTs are shit, I won't spend a dime of my hard earned money on NFTs anymore, I made that mistake in 2020, spend over 9 ethereum buying NFTs, and till this day even as a type this comment, those NFTs are still there in my wallet with absolutely no means for selling them to get my money back.
I don't like NFTs as well. But if there is any chance to mint an NFT for free with just a gas fee, I am okay with that. I have participated in some airdrops where the projects offer some NFT and their users can mint it for free. I am holding a couple of them and I will wait and see if they are worth anything during the bull run.
But I will not spend my money to buy them of course. A lot of people share their opinions, and most of them feel scammed after buying those NFTs. Those NFTs do not have any use case. You cannot pay with it. You cannot sell it anywhere. Some random shitcoins are better than those NFTs. But if I get one for free, I will take them.
@icopress, am I supposed to post my feedback in this thread after using Unijoin? I was about to mix some BTC, but then I noticed that the fee is too high for now. I will try again later.
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The color of these button should be deeper after checking the boxes. But it does not change. It feels like there are some other requirements that I should meet to continue.
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@icopress, am I supposed to post my feedback in this thread after using Unijoin? I was about to mix some BTC, but then I noticed that the fee is too high for now. I will try again later.
I am not icopress obviously but yes, you are supposed to post the feedback here.
➥ By submitting your application, you agree that once accepted you will test UniJoin and post your review.
If the fees are too high now, wait for them to come down, although I see that from yesterday, which was crazy, to today they have come down.
The color of these button should be deeper after checking the boxes. But it does not change. It feels like there are some other requirements that I should meet to continue.
Are you using Tor? Have you tried moving the transfer delay bar?
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Quoting Gyrgen from the signature campaign thread:
Well, I want to leave my opinion about the mixer. So what is there in the settings, my native language is very good, just like other popular languages. Then the whole sequence of actions is intuitive. I would more clearly highlight the transition button, it didn’t change at all color when confirming actions. Next is the letter of guarantee, I roughly understood what it contains and why, but probably for those who are especially suspicious, I would like it to contain a clear phrase like “we guarantee the receipt of funds to the wallet you specified”.Well, what confuses me most and probably anyone who uses it for the first time is this supposedly “incomprehensible” address where it needs to be sent for mixing.In general, if I have such a need, I will use this service.
The letter of guarantee is essential, as it's the only way to prove that you've sent your funds to the right place, if you encounter any technical or other problems during the process.
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Quoting Gyrgen from the signature campaign thread:
<...> if I have such a need, I will use this service.
I don't feel comfortable criticising a colleague but neither do I feel comfortable when I see such obvious mistakes. It seems that Gyrgen, apart from not having realised that the review has to be published here and not in the signature campaign thread, has also not realised that when we joined the campaign we committed ourselves to test the service, and that is not just accessing the website to see what it is like, but to try it out.
Even if you don't see the need to use it, you can do it just by using 0.001 BTC and you will only spend the miner's fees and between 1% and 3%. It is very cheap to try it out, fulfil the commitment and support the service you are advertising, even if it is only once.
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Halving is here guys, and I believe it will be a first-time experience for individuals who entered into Bitcoin/crypto less than four years ago.
We also have a message from Unijoin to us all.
Friends, there are only a few hours left until the #halving! We wish everyone more patience and wisdom to save and increase their Bitcoins. With your support, we will continue to passionately defend privacy rights and hope that we all will soon witness a new ATH! Happy Halving!
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Happy halving guys! 8)
You can try your luck to win a Unijoin card again with the free raffle #14 which is now launched :D
[FREE RAFFLE] - Custom UniJoin Card, (#14)! (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=320568.msg1543343#msg1543343)
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/09/01/mUQuG.png) (https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/09/01/mUMof.png)
Good luck!
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Halving is here guys, and I believe it will be a first-time experience for individuals who entered into Bitcoin/crypto less than four years ago.
This is my third halving experience, started crypto in 2016, my first halving experience was in 2017/2018, and second experience was in 2020/2021, but in all, this seems to me like it's the first halving experience 😅, and this is because, I failed to utilize the opportunity of my first halving experience to make some money for myself, I am also failed in the second as well, and here I am experiencing the third halving, looking like I've been blind all through since 2016 and just received my sight in 2024.
We also have a message from Unijoin to us all.
Friends, there are only a few hours left until the #halving! We wish everyone more patience and wisdom to save and increase their Bitcoins. With your support, we will continue to passionately defend privacy rights and hope that we all will soon witness a new ATH! Happy Halving!
Yeah, happy halving too, to an incredible bitcoin mixing service provider, Unijoin, I believe every lover of crypto and bitcoin is happy how far bitcoin have come, and we all as well look forward to the after halving bull run that should take us to 2025 by the grace of God.
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This is my third halving experience, started crypto in 2016 ..... looking like I've been blind all through since 2016 and just received my sight in 2024.
I also started my crypto journey in 2016 and this is also my third halving experience. Your story and mine are somehow similar.
But, there's a little difference, I received my sight regarding crypto's beneficial part in 2021 and you in 2024. Other than that most of our experiences seem similar.
I'm happy that we were and are part of UniJoin's campaign during and after this halving event, and that's also a similar experience for both of us.
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This is my third halving experience, started crypto in 2016 ..... looking like I've been blind all through since 2016 and just received my sight in 2024.
I also started my crypto journey in 2016 and this is also my third halving experience. Your story and mine are somehow similar.
But, there's a little difference, I received my sight regarding crypto's beneficial part in 2021 and you in 2024. Other than that most of our experiences seem similar.
Lol, I guess the reason you received your sight before me was due to the fact that I took a long break from crypto in mid 2017, and came back in early 2020 during the covid-19 lock down.
Yeah, a part of the full story is that, I started my crypto journey in 2016, and by mid 2017, I made some good money from airdrops, and due to my still limited knowledge of how crypto really works, I decided to use that money to start a business and leave crypto, so I began a business and completely forgot about crypto, during the covid-19 lockdown in 2020 when several business crashed for several reasons, I become interested in making money online again, and that was how I turned back to crypto.
I started learning about crypto all over again and here I am today.
I'm happy that we were and are part of UniJoin's campaign during and after this halving event, and that's also a similar experience for both of us.
Yeah, sure it is, I am very happy too, and what else can I say? I just wish that Bitcoin fees will not remain too high like this forever, so that services like Unijoin will not lose any customers, as I believe that not very many persons can afford this high transaction fees.
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Lol, I guess the reason you received your sight before me was due to the fact that I took a long break from crypto in mid 2017, and came back in early 2020 during the covid-19 lock down.
Once again, our story gets similar. I also somehow left crypto forums for a few years due to my education and some other family matters, and I got interested in it again during the Covid-19 lock down. I don't know how, but our story is almost similar, hope we both will continue to be part of the crypto community for long-term this time.
Yeah, sure it is, I am very happy too, and what else can I say? I just wish that Bitcoin fees will not remain too high like this forever, so that services like Unijoin will not lose any customers, as I believe that not very many persons can afford this high transaction fees.
Yes, I also hope that, the Bitcoin fees will go down as the craze of halving is almost over, and after a week or two we may see low Bitcoin fees once again. I agree that for a service like Unijoin, low Bitcoin fees are most needed as the customers who mix small amounts always prefer to pay low fees. However, they may not lose big clients even if fees go high, because those big clients don't really care about high fees, they just want the best service which Unijoin provides them.
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Yes, I also hope that, the Bitcoin fees will go down as the craze of halving is almost over, and after a week or two we may see low Bitcoin fees once again. I agree that for a service like Unijoin, low Bitcoin fees are most needed as the customers who mix small amounts always prefer to pay low fees. However, they may not lose big clients even if fees go high, because those big clients don't really care about high fees, they just want the best service which Unijoin provides them.
Yes, of course, if you are going to mix a couple of bitcoins you may as well pay 300 sats/vByte but for modest amounts it is not that we prefer low fees, it is that at the moment I do not even consider mixing. I hope this is not affecting the Unijoin.io business too much.
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Yes, I also hope that, the Bitcoin fees will go down as the craze of halving is almost over, and after a week or two we may see low Bitcoin fees once again. I agree that for a service like Unijoin, low Bitcoin fees are most needed as the customers who mix small amounts always prefer to pay low fees. However, they may not lose big clients even if fees go high, because those big clients don't really care about high fees, they just want the best service which Unijoin provides them.
Yes, of course, if you are going to mix a couple of bitcoins you may as well pay 300 sats/vByte but for modest amounts it is not that we prefer low fees, it is that at the moment I do not even consider mixing. I hope this is not affecting the Unijoin.io business too much.
Not only are mixers affected by this chaos with high fees, but also many businesses with "small" payments. Bitcoin has become unusable as a payment method again. This is BS.
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Not only are mixers affected by this chaos with high fees, but also many businesses with "small" payments. Bitcoin has become unusable as a payment method again. This is BS.
Well, let's not get overly pessimistic either. Right now fees have dropped below 100 sats/vByte, so it looks like the craze around halving is going to be a one-off. With the new Runes protocol I guess we will have other spikes but we will soon be back to business as usual.
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Well, let's not get overly pessimistic either. Right now fees have dropped below 100 sats/vByte, so it looks like the craze around halving is going to be a one-off. With the new Runes protocol I guess we will have other spikes but we will soon be back to business as usual.
This is not pessimistic, but reality. For several days now, in many cases, the Bitcoin network has been unusable, and this is not the first time. a couple of times the fee came back below 100 sat/vb, but that's only a couple of blocks.
Just imagine that this forum is unavailable for 5-10 days and that it is only available to those with ultra-fast internet.
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UniJoin published a new article: https://t.me/unijoin/65
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Well, let's not get overly pessimistic either. Right now fees have dropped below 100 sats/vByte, so it looks like the craze around halving is going to be a one-off. With the new Runes protocol I guess we will have other spikes but we will soon be back to business as usual.
This is not pessimistic, but reality. For several days now, in many cases, the Bitcoin network has been unusable, and this is not the first time. a couple of times the fee came back below 100 sat/vb, but that's only a couple of blocks.
Just imagine that this forum is unavailable for 5-10 days and that it is only available to those with ultra-fast internet.
I honestly will agree with you completely, it's hard to say but right now, I am not pleased at all with the happenings on the bitcoin network, I feel like my money saved in bitcoin is currently trapped as I can't move it out of my wallet to take advantage of some present opportunities without having to pay a huge fine as fees; most time, the estimate is even way higher than my entire worth of my bitcoin portfolio, it's really insane and drives me nuts at times, and I think what really makes the situation so worst is due to the fact that there are no usable or available alternatives, aside just waiting and hoping that the network comes back to normal and the fees return back to being low for average bitcoin users.
Anyways, a new article from Unijoin..
https://twitter.com/unijoinofficial/status/1782403657285198121?t=2KWvF_hoxSBHo4jyZuCiQg&s=19 (https://twitter.com/unijoinofficial/status/1782403657285198121?t=2KWvF_hoxSBHo4jyZuCiQg&s=19)
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Anyways, a new article from Unijoin..
https://twitter.com/unijoinofficial/status/1782403657285198121?t=2KWvF_hoxSBHo4jyZuCiQg&s=19 (https://twitter.com/unijoinofficial/status/1782403657285198121?t=2KWvF_hoxSBHo4jyZuCiQg&s=19)
Thank you for sharing the new article!
I found it particularly interesting and well written. This paragraph in particular is very relevant:
To restate the point through a parallel: inflation is a hidden tax that people tolerate even though they would rebel against a direct one; the inflation is comparatively unseen and not understood. Equally, people who would protest a pro-war tax tolerate central bank policies, without which the waging of war would be impossible. Those who are anti-war should call, first and foremost, for the dissolution of the Federal Reserve and all other central banks. But the role of central banks in financing war is unseen and, so, the government sidesteps the need to confront anti-war activists. People do not assert their civil rights because they do not know those rights are being violated. The role of central banks in social control remains unrecognized.
On the subject of the strength and importance of central banks, I'm pretty pessimistic for our near future, when I see CBDCs coming, I fear they'll get even stronger. Fortunately, however, we have access to solutions to protect us from this as much as possible.
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Anyways, a new article from Unijoin..
https://twitter.com/unijoinofficial/status/1782403657285198121?t=2KWvF_hoxSBHo4jyZuCiQg&s=19 (https://twitter.com/unijoinofficial/status/1782403657285198121?t=2KWvF_hoxSBHo4jyZuCiQg&s=19)
As expected, Unijoin's article never disappoints - if only people would actually take the time to read these articles and recognize that they have been trapped and are currently being duped by governments.
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On the subject of the strength and importance of central banks, I'm pretty pessimistic for our near future, when I see CBDCs coming, I fear they'll get even stronger. Fortunately, however, we have access to solutions to protect us from this as much as possible.
Cbdc's would be a bigger problem for privacy than fiat. The government will issue both cbdc and paper money, but whenever someone spends cbdc, the government is going to know, they would be able to track it and its users, unlike with cash. If anyone cares about their privacy, they would not use cbdc's, but BTC + privacy solutions.
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Cbdc's would be a bigger problem for privacy than fiat. The government will issue both cbdc and paper money, but whenever someone spends cbdc, the government is going to know, they would be able to track it and its users, unlike with cash. If anyone cares about their privacy, they would not use cbdc's, but BTC + privacy solutions.
They wont allow for longer existence of cbdc and paper money in the same time because people will never force adopt it that way.
First they will test it like they are doing in China and other countries, than they will trick people with free cbdc giveaways, and than they want to mandate it to everyone and kill cash.
cbdc is a scam, like inflation and taxes, product of corrupt government system.
Bitcon is better but I dont think it would be usable if most people want to use it.
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Anyways, a new article from Unijoin..
https://twitter.com/unijoinofficial/status/1782403657285198121?t=2KWvF_hoxSBHo4jyZuCiQg&s=19 (https://twitter.com/unijoinofficial/status/1782403657285198121?t=2KWvF_hoxSBHo4jyZuCiQg&s=19)
As expected, Unijoin's article never disappoints - if only people would actually take the time to read these articles and recognize that they have been trapped and are currently being duped by governments.
Well, it is what it is, though this is specifically said about African men, but I will try to generalize it this time, and it's that, "if one wants to hide something from a man, that person should hide that thing inside a book".
Now let say that we actually have alot of people around the world who give a good part of their time to reading., but then, the majority still don't read, and this is why many are completely blind to new happenings around, new opportunities and so on and on.
On the subject of the strength and importance of central banks, I'm pretty pessimistic for our near future, when I see CBDCs coming, I fear they'll get even stronger. Fortunately, however, we have access to solutions to protect us from this as much as possible.
Cbdc's would be a bigger problem for privacy than fiat. The government will issue both cbdc and paper money, but whenever someone spends cbdc, the government is going to know, they would be able to track it and its users, unlike with cash. If anyone cares about their privacy, they would not use cbdc's, but BTC + privacy solutions.
Needless say that I completely agree with you bud, in terms of privacy, cash would be far much better than cbdc, because just as you have said, cash can only be monitored when it's in the bank, the moment it is withdrawn in bulk, the government can no longer tell what the user did with the money, but for cbdc, the story will be completely different, for since everything is done online and digital, the government will be able to track peoples spending even to the last kobo.
If you ask me, I would say that cbdc is another type of mass slavery the government is devicing.
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Bitcon is better but I dont think it would be usable if most people want to use it.
I believe you say so because of how high tx fees are, and i agree with you, BTC is kind of unusable right now because of what spammers are doing on the network, these days most of the tx's that take up the block space are from the spammers.
cbdc is a scam, like inflation and taxes, product of corrupt government system.
The government would do anything to destroy privacy solutions and promote censorship tools like cbdc. The U.S government have just taken down another privacy tool in Samourai wallet.
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I believe you say so because of how high tx fees are, and i agree with you, BTC is kind of unusable right now because of what spammers are doing on the network, these days most of the tx's that take up the block space are from the spammers.
You might need to check the mempool.space the transaction fees dropped almost 65sats/vb compared to the TX fee 12 hours ago.
The government would do anything to destroy privacy solutions and promote censorship tools like cbdc. The U.S government have just taken down another privacy tool in Samourai wallet.
Well, there's nothing that we can do about government they always want to do this because they see big money inside crypto look at BinanceUS the price of crypto there is pretty expensive due to tax. They just want to control people and money.
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On the subject of the strength and importance of central banks, I'm pretty pessimistic for our near future, when I see CBDCs coming, I fear they'll get even stronger. Fortunately, however, we have access to solutions to protect us from this as much as possible.
Cbdc's would be a bigger problem for privacy than fiat. The government will issue both cbdc and paper money, but whenever someone spends cbdc, the government is going to know, they would be able to track it and its users, unlike with cash. If anyone cares about their privacy, they would not use cbdc's, but BTC + privacy solutions.
It is just crystal clear that the government does not want our privacy to get out of there hands that is why we keep seeing different ways to ensure that we are still in their circuit without an option to jump out. The Bitcoin solution has been very helpful for most of us even when the government tries to use the AML agenda to track us on every transaction that is been initiated.
I believe the emergence of artificial intelligence in Blockchain technology and crypto mixing could make things quite easier for us to slightly escape from the borders of the government's ability to track all our transactions without rigorous processes being initiated.
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cbdc is a scam, like inflation and taxes, product of corrupt government system.
The government would do anything to destroy privacy solutions and promote censorship tools like cbdc. The U.S government have just taken down another privacy tool in Samourai wallet.
A lot of people may not know that the real agenda of the government when they created CDBC was not a sign of their acknowledgment of blockchain and cryptocurrency. It's just like the government saying people like the innovation of crypto and we can't stop them no matter how hard we try let's give them the taste of their medicine.
This is the reason why it took them years to create a strategy and the implementation of CDBC that would give them the power to enslave the people. I believe a lot of crypto enthusiasts are already aware of what is explained which is why none of the Central Bank's digital currency thrived after some years because it (CDBC) doesn't present the wow factor nor solve problems which are the two elements that determine the usage of every digital currency and any product.
Having said that, what I fear now is the future result of the BTC spot ETF.
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I believe the emergence of artificial intelligence in Blockchain technology and crypto mixing could make things quite easier for us to slightly escape from the borders of the government's ability to track all our transactions without rigorous processes being initiated.
What is artificial intelligence going to do to better the system we already have, and which service has implemented something like that? I know the government are seriously after privacy solutions, but we have to still use it if we want privacy. However, after mixing your coins, it is safer not to deposit it directly into a centralized exchange, it is better to go through a few hops first, or use p2p exchanges only, like bisq.
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Please can you enlighten me more on This, how many Blockchain does this Mixers support? I've come across this before now, I couldn't make out what it means. This is the first time I'm paying full attention to it. I'll be waiting for your response.
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Please can you enlighten me more on This, how many Blockchain does this Mixers support? I've come across this before now, I couldn't make out what it means. This is the first time I'm paying full attention to it. I'll be waiting for your response.
Assuming I understood you correctly, the answer is that only Bitcoin can be mixed on this mixer. Or if it's simpler for you, the Unijoin mixer works only on the Bitcoin blockchain.
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Please can you enlighten me more on This, how many Blockchain does this Mixers support?
Currently it supports only bitcoin but in the future more will be added to it - Ethereum, Litecoin and the rest would be added to it very soon.
(https://i.ibb.co/Xjt6r65/IMG-1309.jpg) (https://ibb.co/KbWBpBs)
I've come across this before now, I couldn't make out what it means. This is the first time I'm paying full attention to it. I'll be waiting for your response.
Unijoin is a mixer, and what it does basically is to help you restore anonymity to your fund (bitcoin) - if you want to know more about unijoin and how it works or how to operate it then I’d suggest you go through this link - if you have any question or you’re confused about anything else after going through the link I shared with you, feel free to ask your question here and we’ll be more than happy to answer you.
https://unijoin.io/en/why-unijoin
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So guys, for those of us who are yet to try Unijoin, I think the fees on the bitcoin network has calmed down a bit, now is the best time to mix some bitcoin, seeing that this is a mandatory requirement as a participant in the UniJoin signature ad campaign, I will advice everyone of us wearing and promoting the UniJoin brand to use the service and get familiar with it.
I just mixed some bitcoin on Unijoin this morning and the coins just arrived in my wallet some few minutes ago, this is actually the second the time I am mixing on Unijoin, I did the first time but failed to write a review as demanded by our campaign manager because I forgot to tree make screenshots while in the process, this morning, seeing that Bitcoin transaction fees have calmed down a bit, I decide to mix again on Unijoin, and this time, I was careful enough to take all necessary screenshots for my review.
So, in a couple of hours from now, I will be writing a comprehensive review of my experience mixing bitcoin on Unijoin, this process is simple and really cost efficient, even with bitcoin transaction fees still considered to be high for shrimps like myself, I am still very happy with the amount of bitcoin I ended up with after every fees was deducted.
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Currently it supports only bitcoin but in the future more will be added to it - Ethereum, Litecoin and the rest would be added to it very soon.
If I was someone from Unijon I would remove Litecoin from all future ideas to use it for mixing.
Litecoin already have mweb addresses with integrated mimble wimble technology, that works great for privacy.
But mixing for Ethereum and Tether could be useful to add in future, if customers are interested.
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Currently it supports only bitcoin but in the future more will be added to it - Ethereum, Litecoin and the rest would be added to it very soon.
If I was someone from Unijon I would remove Litecoin from all future ideas to use it for mixing.
Litecoin already have mweb addresses with integrated mimble wimble technology, that works great for privacy.
But mixing for Ethereum and Tether could be useful to add in future, if customers are interested.
I don't know very much about Litecoin as I don't transact in it, in fact, I think I only bought it once from an exchange when I was trying to withdraw from the exchange, but withdrawal fee for the coin in question was too high, I had to buy Litecoin which was at time; with a very small withdrawal fee, withdrew from the exchange and converted it back to my prefered currency immediately I received them in my wallet.
So, if what you said about Litecoin already having some privacy mechanism that works great and effectively is true, then you are right.
And speaking of ethereum and usdt, there are no issues with mixing ethereum I believe, but my concern is with usdt, we all know that usdt is heavily centralized, I am wondering if it will be possible to legally mix usdt without issues from tether.?
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So guys, for those of us who are yet to try Unijoin, I think the fees on the bitcoin network has calmed down a bit, now is the best time to mix some bitcoin, seeing that this is a mandatory requirement as a participant in the UniJoin signature ad campaign, I will advice everyone of us wearing and promoting the UniJoin brand to use the service and get familiar with it.
I just mixed some bitcoin on Unijoin this morning and the coins just arrived in my wallet some few minutes ago, this is actually the second the time I am mixing on Unijoin, I did the first time but failed to write a review as demanded by our campaign manager because I forgot to tree make screenshots while in the process, this morning, seeing that Bitcoin transaction fees have calmed down a bit, I decide to mix again on Unijoin, and this time, I was careful enough to take all necessary screenshots for my review.
So, in a couple of hours from now, I will be writing a comprehensive review of my experience mixing bitcoin on Unijoin, this process is simple and really cost efficient, even with bitcoin transaction fees still considered to be high for shrimps like myself, I am still very happy with the amount of bitcoin I ended up with after every fees was deducted.
The Bitcoin transaction fees has been an issue lately, this has prevented me from making some transactions with that aside
What's your professional advice on using Unijoin Bitcoin mixer. As you may know, not all Bitcoin mixers are meant to be explored, and there are better ways to enjoy using mixers.
Also the browser in which you use the Bitcoin mixer has always been a topic for conversation. Brave browser is just a normal browser. Do not mind them saying it's a privacy browser. It is not. I rather use Tor browser because it protects my IP and I feal more secure.
In other words what's your experience so far and how do you navigate using this mixer
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Hi guys, I'm really curious to know about CoinJoin Mixer, previously I have come across this before now but I couldn't take cognizance of it. Right now, I'm ready to know all about it.
Anyone here to help? I'm waiting for direction from anyone that has proficiently used it and seen a great outcome.
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Please can you enlighten me more on This, how many Blockchain does this Mixers support? I've come across this before now, I couldn't make out what it means. This is the first time I'm paying full attention to it. I'll be waiting for your response.
Ok
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Hi guys, I'm really curious to know about CoinJoin Mixer, previously I have come across this before now but I couldn't take cognizance of it. Right now, I'm ready to know all about it.
Anyone here to help? I'm waiting for direction from anyone that has proficiently used it and seen a great outcome.
Can you read?
Unijoin website has website translated in eight languages.
You dont need to have tutors or babysitters for that.
Follow instructions, send coins, they are mixed and send back to you with small fees paid.
Simple.
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And speaking of ethereum and usdt, there are no issues with mixing ethereum I believe, but my concern is with usdt, we all know that usdt is heavily centralized, I am wondering if it will be possible to legally mix usdt without issues from tether.?
Yeah, it will be the case mixing of USDT knowing it's centralized. Upcoming issues i can only see in ETH mixing no other than it's common issue, high fees.
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MY REVIEW FOR UNIJOIN BITCOIN MIXER
OVERVIEW
So, yesterday, I had the opportunity of using the Unijoin mixer to mix some bitcoin sats for the second time after my first mix some months back, and the process was still as seemless as it was i my first experience, the process is easy to understand and follow - so, i did say that the process is user friendly as it can be, personally, i love the fact that the process of mixing is grouped into 5 stages as it is shown in the shot below.
(https://talkimg.com/images/2024/04/26/rwU3T.png)
This i personally believe makes the whole process easy and clear for the customer, so he or she doesn't make the mistake of mixing things up.
MY REVIEW - 1st STAGE
Since chrome browser was the default browser for my pc, (well, let me just say that i use chrome for majorly all my browsing needs and wants), but while trying to access the Unijoin website, I encountered an issue which forced me to switch to another immediate available browser on my pc, and that is Opera. And the issue encountered was that for some reasons beyond my comprehension, i could not get past the very first page of the site, which is the human verification stage.
(https://talkimg.com/images/2024/04/26/rupXZ.png)
I could not get past this page of the site on my chrome browser, as each time i clicked the "verify you are human" box, the box ticks a good mark, then forms some circle rotating like its loading, then abruptly returns back to its previous/normal state, requiring me to click the box again, this i did over and over and over again, but the same thing kept happening, and later on, i had to try from another browser, (opera), and just one click, the verification was passed - Please fix this issue.
2st STAGE
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This is the very first stage in the process of mixing bitcoin, and personally, i think a lot of vital information is missing on this very first mixing page.
I was expecting to find a well detailed mixing fee structure on this page(letting the user know what to expect before hand), and as well as the minimum and maximum amount of bitcoin that could be mixed per turn, but unfortunately, none of this information was provided here, the user only has to enter his or her bitcoin receiving address, set the time he or she is willing to wait for his or her bitcoins to be mixed and sent to his or provided address, and that's it about this stage - all good anyway.
3rd STAGE
(https://talkimg.com/images/2024/04/26/ruqM9.png)
This is the terms and conditions stage, i guess nothing much to say here, the only thing i expected to happen here which did not happen was that, after the user accepts all of the listed terms, i was expecting the "CONTINUE" button to change to a darker color signifying a "click to go ahead" to the next page, but that didn't happen, this is nothing so important per say, but then, little things like this adds more flavor to the soup and a make it a bit more delicious.
4th STAGE
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This is the third stage in the process of mixing, in this stage, a bitcoin address is provided for the user to send bitcoins to, and this is also where information about the minimum and maximum amount of bitcoin supported for mixing is provided, and users also get to download their letter of guarantee in this stage(as seen in the shot above), whatever this letter means or does, i do not know, but it's also very important to store it in a safe folder just in case any issues are encountered after sending bitcoins.
So, i sent my desire amount of bitcoin to be mixed to the address that was provided while taking note of the minimum amount, seeing that there is a 24 hour time limit frame given for a user to send coins to the provided address, else the transaction will be canceled, i was afraid if my bitcoin transaction will get a confirmation before the 24 hour time limit elapsed due to high transaction cost on the bitcoin network and also long delays that befall transactions with low Sats per vbyte as required by the bitcoin network.
But my fear evaporated and joy returned when i saw that my bitcoin transaction reflected on Unijoin immediately i sent it, even when the transaction has not received any network confirmation, i learnt here that the mixing fee is randomly generated, and a fee of 2.73% was generated for me, and as per the Unijoin system's information, i had to wait for 2 confirmations before the mixing process starts, i waited, and it came in in no time.
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Aside from the fees that are randomly generated that i was made to know nothing about until i sent bitcoins, I am very satisfied with the settings on this stage.
5th STAGE
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In this stage, my bitcoin transaction already got the required 2 network confirmations and mixing have started, and i just had to wait for the time which i set while in the initial stage of the mixing; to elapse before i receive my coins.
OVERALL
The experience was good, though not without some exceptions, and here is a question and suggestion I have for the unijoin team...
QUESTION..
How and why are fees randomly generated? i thought there was supposed to be a flat fee rate on something, what mathematics determine how much in fees, a user should pay for mixing?
SUGGESTION..
In terms of bitcoin transaction fees, we all know how messed up the bitcoin network has been in recent times, to prevent a user being overcharged to send their bitcoin after the mixing is done, i will like to see a feature where a user can have the option to extend the time, they wish to receive their coins, or better still, let there be an option available to users to choose for them self, whether to automatically receive their bitcoin to their provided address , or to manually receive it by coming back to the site to click a withdraw button.
This feature will help users to have more control over the amount of bitcoin they have to pay as network fees to have their mixed coins sent to their provided wallet, for example, imagine a scenario where i sent coins to unijion for mixing when the bitcoin network fees was at 50 sats per vbyte, and by the time my coins were done mixing and its time to receive it to my provided wallet, the network fees has skyrocketed to 1000 sats per vbyte(we know the fee must be deducted from the user bitcoin balance), that user should be able to choose whether to go ahead and receive his or her coins, or wait for the network fees to come down to a level that he or she considers ok for him.
The end.
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Feel free to join and try your luck to win a nice Unijoin card 8)
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Good luck!
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I believe the emergence of artificial intelligence in Blockchain technology and crypto mixing could make things quite easier for us to slightly escape from the borders of the government's ability to track all our transactions without rigorous processes being initiated.
What is artificial intelligence going to do to better the system we already have, and which service has implemented something like that? I know the government are seriously after privacy solutions, but we have to still use it if we want privacy. However, after mixing your coins, it is safer not to deposit it directly into a centralized exchange, it is better to go through a few hops first, or use p2p exchanges only, like bisq.
You may not know that most platform that has to do with transaction, and computing activities are using Artificial intelligence to execute some of their services because there's always a limit to the task humans can handle. If you follow the latest activities of the most technology giant organizations like Microsoft, Google, Nvidia, etc they are spending millions to billions of dollars researching artificial intelligence.
Which mean, in the future we can see the creation of cryptocurrency mixing that use artificial intelligence for their services to implemented the flexibility and lower the cost in the price of crypto mixing. This reminds me of Jameson Lopp's tweet days ago he said "Without further improvements, on-chain mixing will become too expensive for most people to afford.
We wouldn't want to do something crazy like *gasp* change the Bitcoin protocol to support cross-input signature aggregation!"
So, further improvement and research will lead to the use of AI to prevent high-cost crypto mixing.
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This is an interesting article on Bitcoin mixing. Having come across other Bitcoin mixers, it is commendable to note that UniJoin is a good consideration for mixing your Bitcoin.
However, I would want to know if the fees 1-3% is fixed or varied according to the capability of the Mixing.
And what is the transaction time frame too? Does it store logs and if it doesn't, when a glitch happens how is it rectified.
BTW, this is a great article. It was explained in lay terms.
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Since chrome browser was the default browser for my pc, (well, let me just say that i use chrome for majorly all my browsing needs and wants), but while trying to access the Unijoin website, I encountered an issue which forced me to switch to another immediate available browser on my pc, and that is Opera. And the issue encountered was that for some reasons beyond my comprehension, i could not get past the very first page of the site, which is the human verification stage.
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I could not get past this page of the site on my chrome browser, as each time i clicked the "verify you are human" box, the box ticks a good mark, then forms some circle rotating like its loading, then abruptly returns back to its previous/normal state, requiring me to click the box again, this i did over and over and over again, but the same thing kept happening, and later on, i had to try from another browser, (opera), and just one click, the verification was passed - Please fix this issue.
I also use the Chrome browser almost all the time, and I just visited the Unijoin site and passed the captcha without any problems. So, something is wrong on your side exactly with your Chrome browser and not on the site's side.
I would recommend you try either clearing your browser cache and cookies directly for the Unijoin site or using incognito mode. Also, if you have extensions installed in your Chrome browser, the reason for the captcha loop may be in one of them.
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You can also check for errors in the console when the captcha is looping.
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Since chrome browser was the default browser for my pc, (well, let me just say that i use chrome for majorly all my browsing needs and wants), but while trying to access the Unijoin website, I encountered an issue which forced me to switch to another immediate available browser on my pc, and that is Opera. And the issue encountered was that for some reasons beyond my comprehension, i could not get past the very first page of the site, which is the human verification stage.
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I could not get past this page of the site on my chrome browser, as each time i clicked the "verify you are human" box, the box ticks a good mark, then forms some circle rotating like its loading, then abruptly returns back to its previous/normal state, requiring me to click the box again, this i did over and over and over again, but the same thing kept happening, and later on, i had to try from another browser, (opera), and just one click, the verification was passed - Please fix this issue.
I also use the Chrome browser almost all the time, and I just visited the Unijoin site and passed the captcha without any problems. So, something is wrong on your side exactly with your Chrome browser and not on the site's side.
I would recommend you try either clearing your browser cache and cookies directly for the Unijoin site or using incognito mode. Also, if you have extensions installed in your Chrome browser, the reason for the captcha loop may be in one of them.
p.s.
You can also check for errors in the console when the captcha is looping.
OK, thank you very much for this heads up, since you tried and didn't experience the same thing, I am believing it's an issue from my end as you said, it also occurred to me right now to tried the same in my mobile chrome, I just did now and the verification was passed one time, so, I am assuming the issue is with my pc's chrome software..
And yeah, I do have some, about 8 to 10 extensions installed on mumy pc chrome browser, I will follow the steps as you have recommended to see if the issue will be fixed, I actually thought the issue was from the UniJoin side because I do not experience the same thing when visiting other websites, only Unijoin, but all the same, I will try what you have suggested and see if that fixes the issue.
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..it also occurred to me right now to tried the same in my mobile chrome, I just did now and the verification was passed one time, so, I am assuming the issue is with my pc's chrome software..
Sometimes it happens when it's your first time visit the site after a while, or using browser for the first time, internet connection, your ip address have traffic issue since it's using CF, and many more. I didn't faced that issue on my end, and i'm currently using firefox in desktop.
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OK, thank you very much for this heads up, since you tried and didn't experience the same thing, I am believing it's an issue from my end as you said, it also occurred to me right now to tried the same in my mobile chrome, I just did now and the verification was passed one time, so, I am assuming the issue is with my pc's chrome software..
That “verify that you’re a human” page does pop up once in a while (most especially when I’m using my laptop) but never have I experienced it being stuck as you mentioned, it usually moves to my desired page the moment I check the box and I also have some extensions installed (it might not same as yours though).
Most times when I’m having issues with a site I usually just clear cache as mentioned above and sometimes it works or uninstall the browser (in extreme cases) and reinstall it again to see if it changes anything and they have been working for me - I’m not sure if it will be the same for you.
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Having seen other Bitcoin Mixers, I think UniJoin is unique in the fact that it uses anonymous addresses as outputs,
Also the lesser fees makes it for a good try as others I've used are higher than UniJoin.
About clearing of chat histories, while I understand that it may contain sensitive transaction information, however, I feel that there should be documentation of chat previous logs specific to the needs of the user.
In general, this article is well articulated even for a newbie starting out.
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@cryptofied
Good post mate. But I have used some or few Bitcoin mixers and there are notable differences in them, so what are those similarities or differences that unijoin mixer has that makes it stands out or fall short when being compared to other exchange.
Right not I can still say the Bitcoin transaction fee is still high so any mixer that has additional high fees to this should be out of the list of options. How fast is the transaction on unijoin Bitcoin mixer.
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However, I would want to know if the fees 1-3% is fixed or varied according to the capability of the Mixing.
Quoting UniJoin's FAQ:
To preserve your anonymity and make Chainanalysis as hard as possible, we have decided to randomly generate the fees for mixing operations.
The fee per mixing operation ranges between 1% - 3% and is generated with a decimal number of 4 digi
https://unijoin.io/en/faq#what-are-the-fees (https://unijoin.io/en/faq#what-are-the-fees)
And what is the transaction time frame too? Does it store logs and if it doesn't, when a glitch happens how is it rectified.
BTW, this is a great article. It was explained in lay terms.
Quoting the FAQ again, "does it store logs?":
UniJoin stores information only for the time of the completion of the mixing order and only those, that are technically necessary. After a mixing order is completed, it is deleted immediately. Therefore, the order link is no longer accessible after the page is reloaded.
https://unijoin.io/en/faq#does-unijoin-store-logs
(https://unijoin.io/en/faq#does-unijoin-store-logs)
Again the FAQ with "What is the transfer delay?":
Transaction delay is a feature where our users can set how many hours and minutes later they want to receive the mixed cryptos. This feature makes a time correlation between your deposit and payout impossible and increases the level of the anonymity.
Please note that the transfer delay starts from the moment when the transaction has 2 confirmations from the blockchain explorer.
https://unijoin.io/en/faq#what-is-transaction-delay
(https://unijoin.io/en/faq#what-is-transaction-delay)
If you encounter a bug or problem, just keep precisously your letter of guarantee and contact the support.
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This is an interesting article on Bitcoin mixing. Having come across other Bitcoin mixers, it is commendable to note that UniJoin is a good consideration for mixing your Bitcoin.
However, I would want to know if the fees 1-3% is fixed or varied according to the capability of the Mixing.
According to my experience. The fee for the Bitcoin mixing service is randomly generated based on the amount of Bitcoin you want to mix and the transfer delay time frame you selected. Therefore, we can still the word capability of the mixing.
And what is the transaction time frame too?
The time frame of Unijoin Bitcoin mixing execution is an hour. However, it could be more than that because the major time frame of every coin mixed by the platform is determined by the transfer delay selected by the platform user. You need to pay attention to these things when using Unjoin to avoid delay.
Does it store logs and if it doesn't, when a glitch happens how is it rectified.
BTW, this is a great article. It was explained in lay terms.
The mixing platform doesn't store the logs of its users and when a glitch happens the only to rectify is to open a ticket and file a complaint with the team however you will to open your letter of guarantee as proof so you need to store and save the letter of guarantee when mixing on Unijoin.
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Good post mate. But I have used some or few Bitcoin mixers and there are notable differences in them, so what are those similarities or differences that unijoin mixer has that makes it stands out or fall short when being compared to other exchange.
If you want to understand more about Unijoin and how it works, check this link: https://unijoin.io/en/why-unijoin
In there you'll find out most of the things that makes Unijoin different.
How fast is the transaction on unijoin Bitcoin mixer.
You set the transfer delay yourself, you set the hours and minutes you want to receive the mixed coins into your receiving address. But your deposit tx must have at least two confirmations first, and then the delay time starts counting from there.
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Hi guys, I'm really curious to know about CoinJoin Mixer, previously I have come across this before now but I couldn't take cognizance of it. Right now, I'm ready to know all about it.
Anyone here to help? I'm waiting for direction from anyone that has proficiently used it and seen a great outcome.
I believe we all learn very fast through different ways and one of the ways we learn faster is by watching videos which could quickly facilitate our understanding so that we could comprehend it and also being able explain it in our own way. If you want to understand mixing of Bitcoin and what it entails including the mechanism, I would advise you to look for good videos that would facilitate your understanding so you don't have to keep getting confused about the whole matter.
If you are a fast learner, then you can get some pdf or read books that would increase your understanding about what Bitcoin mixing really entails and the mechanism that the work done without any issue or problem. You can likewise go straight to the site and check how they mix their coins which could have little differences with others.
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We all know that we are now living in a digital world as we advanced in technology. All communications, data storage and even cryptocurrency has its advancement too. As we advanced to technology, some data might be at risk of tracking and privacy violation.
Although, cryptocurrencies usually uses anonymity, the moment you uses the same information, transactions may be tracked and traced back to you.
Good thing that we now have trusted Bitcoin Mixer like UniJoin that can maintain anonymity, will protect our identity and keep bitcoin transactions private.
Their website is easy to use. No need to create an account that can be traced back to you and all logs are deleted once your crypto mixing order is completed.
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I've been using bitcoin to shop online, pay for my meals and such and all these time I've been worrying about how blockchain can be used to steal my account and personal information, it's been making me feel uncomfortable.
Now that that i learn about UniJoin.io it's promises of security an anonymity it's giving me peace of mind every time im transacting online just wan to share few reason why i would recommend using this platform.
one, it's very convenience to use, knowing that i can use it anywhere with any device so long as im connected to the internet. Two, UniJoin Provides a centralized platform communication making it easier to connect and collaborate with other. and most of all, you have the option to set the timeframe for transfer delay of mixing process allowing users to do it in advance or set it for future use.
I definitely trust the platform and glad that i came across UniJoin so i will never have to worry about my privacy. i hope you do too.
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Having seen other Bitcoin Mixers, I think UniJoin is unique in the fact that it uses anonymous addresses as outputs,
There is no such thing as an anonymous address in Bitcoin. We don't have such an address. There are legacy addresses, various kinds of segwit addresses like Nested and Native segwit and we have taproot addresses, but none of these addresses hides the scriptpubkey section of the outputs which is one of the necessary steps to have an anonymous kind of address.
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If you are a fast learner, then you can get some pdf or read books that would increase your understanding about what Bitcoin mixing really entails and the mechanism that the work done without any issue or problem.
If you want to use a mixer like Unijoin, then you do not have to go that far. It is not rocket science, and the mixing process is easy, even for a newbie, all they need is to create a new BTC address to receive mixed coins and set the delay time. Once you deposit the coins, the mixer will handle the rest.
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If you are a fast learner, then you can get some pdf or read books that would increase your understanding about what Bitcoin mixing really entails and the mechanism that the work done without any issue or problem.
If you want to use a mixer like Unijoin, then you do not have to go that far. It is not rocket science, and the mixing process is easy, even for a newbie, all they need is to create a new BTC address to receive mixed coins and set the delay time. Once you deposit the coins, the mixer will handle the rest.
Yes mate you are correct, you don't have to be Isaac Newton to understand the basics of Bitcoin mixing .
Although Bitcoin mixing may be easy there are silly mistakes that if made can deal jeopardise the whole essence of using the Bitcoin mixer in the first place.
For example there are browsers that can sell you out even when using a Bitcoin mixer and this isn't the fault of the mixer, I tell you mate newbies first have to really understand the best approach to mixing Bitcoin before they carry out any process.
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I've not really tried mixing Bitcoin before now, till I saw this post and tried it out. The good thing is the anonymousity it provides your addresses within the timeframe of the transaction. IMO, the charge is fair for a range of 1-3%.
I recommend it for everyone that wants to mix their bitcoin speedily and with ease.
However, I will also try out that of Ethereum and make my comparisons.
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Having seen other Bitcoin Mixers, I think UniJoin is unique in the fact that it uses anonymous addresses as outputs,
There is no such thing as an anonymous address in Bitcoin. We don't have such an address. There are legacy addresses, various kinds of segwit addresses like Nested and Native segwit and we have taproot addresses, but none of these addresses hides the scriptpubkey section of the outputs which is one of the necessary steps to have an anonymous kind of address.
Agreed and I never for once see an anonymous Bitcoin wallet address but when I read what the user is saying I believe he/she means a virgin Bitcoin wallet address which is not been used before for crypto-related transactions.
He/she used the word anonymous addresses based on its local language expression.
I've been using bitcoin to shop online, pay for my meals and such and all these time I've been worrying about how blockchain can be used to steal my account and personal information, it's been making me feel uncomfortable.
Blockchain can't be used to steal your account or personal information cause it's a foundational data structure behind Bitcoin, also known as the digital public ledger that keeps track of every transaction on the Bitcoin network. Although some attackers/hackers use it as a tool to look for their new prey. This is what makes using a crypto tumbler important to prevent it from happening.
What will expose or provide the chance for your personal information to be stolen online is determined by how you use it online especially through some fake testnet airdrop that make require KYC, CEX, and other centralized platform that require KYC.
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However, I will also try out that of Ethereum and make my comparisons.
Unijoin does not mix Ethereum yet, so it wouldn’t make sense to compare bitcoin mixing with that of a different network - it would be better to do your comparison with two mixers that’s present here in altcointalks using same coin.
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@cryptofied
Good post mate. But I have used some or few Bitcoin mixers and there are notable differences in them, so what are those similarities or differences that unijoin mixer has that makes it stands out or fall short when being compared to other exchange.
Right not I can still say the Bitcoin transaction fee is still high so any mixer that has additional high fees to this should be out of the list of options. How fast is the transaction on unijoin Bitcoin mixer.
Speaking of fees, I mixed some bitcoins on Unijoin some few days ago when the sats per vbyte was around 45 sats, and I for a pretty good result, atleast, I was very happy with the output for I expected a bit less due to the high bitcoin transactions fees.
Currently, the sats per vbyte is at around 25 sats, and this means that the bitcoin transactions fees have greatly reduced compared to what it was at at the beginning of the week, this means that, if you are mixing now, fees shouldn't really be a thing to worry about, most especially, if you choose Unijoin.
And speaking of how fast it is to transaction on Unijoin, I would rate my first and second experience a 9 out of 10, while mixing, you see a time at which you wish to receive your mixed coins, both times I mixed, my mixed bitcoins arrived to my wallet at the exact time I set, not even a 2 second late.
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I've been using bitcoin to shop online, pay for my meals and such and all these time I've been worrying about how blockchain can be used to steal my account and personal information, it's been making me feel uncomfortable.
Since you have a Bitcoin shop online where you sell your products and accept Bitcoin as one of the method of payment, it would be very important for you to use a mixing service so that all your transactions are not being tracked by someone that could want to know the inflow and outflow of your funds.
Also, taking precautions and a safety would help you so you don't get a stolen Bitcoin fund into your wallet thinking you are safe. The government could also be watching you and all your transactions. The only way you could outsmart them is by using a good mixer that has the coinjoin technology to keep you and your coin safe from the watching eyes.
I definitely trust the platform and glad that i came across UniJoin so i will never have to worry about my privacy. i hope you do too.
You can always take you time to visit the website so you could understand more about their service and also read some of the articles on the website so that it could aid your understanding on how to stay safe and anonymous in your cryptocurrency transactions.
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If you are a fast learner, then you can get some pdf or read books that would increase your understanding about what Bitcoin mixing really entails and the mechanism that the work done without any issue or problem.
If you want to use a mixer like Unijoin, then you do not have to go that far. It is not rocket science, and the mixing process is easy, even for a newbie, all they need is to create a new BTC address to receive mixed coins and set the delay time. Once you deposit the coins, the mixer will handle the rest.
It is entirely unnecessary for him to learn the technical operations of Bitcoin and, by extension, the Blockchain, just to enable him to use coin mixing services like Unijoin.
In my opinion, as long as you have been in the crypto space and have ever transferred and/or transacted Bitcoin or any other cryptocurrency for that matter, then you can easily use coin mixing services.
However, if he is suggesting to read up on Blockchain and Bitcoin, then he is probably inferring that coin mixing services like Unijoin are difficult to use and practically unsafe unless, of course, who he is replying to is interested in understanding the underlying technology the coin mixing service is built upon, and in that regard, it makes sense to refer him to a technical document not on Bitcoin but on the mixing service itself.
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However, if he is suggesting to read up on Blockchain and Bitcoin, then he is probably inferring that coin mixing services like Unijoin are difficult to use and practically unsafe unless, of course, who he is replying to is interested in understanding the underlying technology the coin mixing service is built upon, and in that regard, it makes sense to refer him to a technical document not on Bitcoin but on the mixing service itself.
We have a lot of confirmations that using UniJoin is safe and easy to understand. Moreover, if someone has some questions while he is involved into a mixing process, he can always ask them here and the community will gladly give its recommendations. I see no reason to dive into technical details in order to mix some coins. UniJoin provides an understandable step-by-step guide, following which will take you to a desired result.
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Hello! I'm new here and is trying to understand the benefits of using coin mixer because previously i was just sending the money directly from my coin wallet to a friend when he advice me to use these kind of services to make sure that no one will ever try to steal my information or invade my privacy, I'm still unsure how can they do that since the coins that im using was just given to me and im planning to use it for gaming and profit making, so my concern is if i were to use/do a coinjoin i will be joing a single pool with other people, then how can i be sure that they wont be able to "Possibly" access my information? I understand that UniJoin.io will be securing the pool but still, right?
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Hello! I'm new here and is trying to understand the benefits of using coin mixer because previously i was just sending the money directly from my coin wallet to a friend when he advice me to use these kind of services to make sure that no one will ever try to steal my information or invade my privacy, I'm still unsure how can they do that since the coins that im using was just given to me and im planning to use it for gaming and profit making, so my concern is if i were to use/do a coinjoin i will be joing a single pool with other people, then how can i be sure that they wont be able to "Possibly" access my information? I understand that UniJoin.io will be securing the pool but still, right?
Hey mate! I'm also exploring coin mixing services, and I've found a few that seem interesting in terms of how they operate and the privacy they offer.
However, it seems like you do not fully understand what coin mixing services do. They aren't designed to prevent your coins from being stolen or to directly protect your privacy.
Coin mixing services primarily focus on enhancing the anonymity of Bitcoin transactions (or whichever cryptocurrency the service mixes). You essentially send your coins to an address provided by the service, and they use their specific methods to mix your coins with others, making it difficult to trace them back to you when you receive them at a different address.
This is the basic operation of a coin mixing service. I recommend doing more research on this topic by reading through this thread as I'll be doing soon and asking questions if anything is unclear.
However, if you're primarily concerned about losing your funds, then using a mixing service might not be what you should be concerned about. Instead, you should focus on learning about safeguarding your cryptocurrency and protecting yourself from getting hacked.
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However, I will also try out that of Ethereum and make my comparisons.
Unijoin does not mix Ethereum yet, so it wouldn’t make sense to compare bitcoin mixing with that of a different network - it would be better to do your comparison with two mixers that’s present here in altcointalks using same coin.
Based on my understanding, it is inappropriate to compare Bitcoin with any altcoin, whether Ethereum Near, etc. Because of the concept used to create Bitcoin, it's the only true decentralized cryptocurrency we have in the market while others are just copycats.
Having said that, you said "Unijoin does not mix Ethereum yet" Based on my knowledge of your statement it seems like you have the impression that the Unijoin platform will provide an Ethereum mixing service in the future. Am I correct? If yes where do you get the information? Because after the shutdown of Tornado Cash, there is no cryptocurrency tumbler that has the plan of creating Ethereum mixing.
Meanwhile, it would be nice if we could see some crypto tumbler platforms that provide altcoin mixing services so that the altcoin enthusiasts can also experience the exact privacy Bitcoin enthusiasts are getting through the crypto tumbler website service.
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Having said that, you said "Unijoin does not mix Ethereum yet" Based on my knowledge of your statement it seems like you have the impression that the Unijoin platform will provide an Ethereum mixing service in the future. Am I correct? If yes where do you get the information? Because after the shutdown of Tornado Cash, there is no cryptocurrency tumbler that has the plan of creating Ethereum mixing.
There are few mixers that actually mixes Ethereum although it would be a good entry point for some mixer company that would love to add some touch of difference. Like you said in your post Bitcoin should not be compared to altcoins but still coins like Ethereum is in demand and just like Bitcoin they can support anonymity and privacy.
Personally want to see top mixers like Unijoin integrate Ethereum mixing into their system and see how this goes from there. Although I think the Ethereum network fee may lose as a deterrent for those who would want to use the service.
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@cryptofied
Good post mate. But I have used some or few Bitcoin mixers and there are notable differences in them, so what are those similarities or differences that unijoin mixer has that makes it stands out or fall short when being compared to other exchange.
Right not I can still say the Bitcoin transaction fee is still high so any mixer that has additional high fees to this should be out of the list of options. How fast is the transaction on unijoin Bitcoin mixer.
Speaking of fees, I mixed some bitcoins on Unijoin some few days ago when the sats per vbyte was around 45 sats, and I for a pretty good result, atleast, I was very happy with the output for I expected a bit less due to the high bitcoin transactions fees.
Currently, the sats per vbyte is at around 25 sats, and this means that the bitcoin transactions fees have greatly reduced compared to what it was at at the beginning of the week, this means that, if you are mixing now, fees shouldn't really be a thing to worry about, most especially, if you choose Unijoin.
And speaking of how fast it is to transaction on Unijoin, I would rate my first and second experience a 9 out of 10, while mixing, you see a time at which you wish to receive your mixed coins, both times I mixed, my mixed bitcoins arrived to my wallet at the exact time I set, not even a 2 second late.
The current level of Bitcoin transaction fee should be put into consideration if want to use Bitcoin mixing service, especially during the season of Bitcoin network traffic jams which always happen during the 4-year cycle season. However, I dont know if you guys notice that most Bitcoin mixer platforms usually use a Bitcoin scaling wallet address (SegWit, bech32) for their service which will technically provide a 10-30% cheaper transaction fee rather than the legacy Bitcoin wallet.
So, the adoption of the scaling wallet gives most Bitcoin mixer service providers the chance to provide flexibility fees for their users or else it will be difficult for most privacy enthusiasts to make use of their service. Nevertheless, people who want flexible transaction fees can wait till the weekend as you suggested but there's a network jam on some weekends at some point.
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If you are a fast learner, then you can get some pdf or read books that would increase your understanding about what Bitcoin mixing really entails and the mechanism that the work done without any issue or problem.
If you want to use a mixer like Unijoin, then you do not have to go that far. It is not rocket science, and the mixing process is easy, even for a newbie, all they need is to create a new BTC address to receive mixed coins and set the delay time. Once you deposit the coins, the mixer will handle the rest.
It is entirely unnecessary for him to learn the technical operations of Bitcoin and, by extension, the Blockchain, just to enable him to use coin mixing services like Unijoin.
In my opinion, as long as you have been in the crypto space and have ever transferred and/or transacted Bitcoin or any other cryptocurrency for that matter, then you can easily use coin mixing services.
However, if he is suggesting to read up on Blockchain and Bitcoin, then he is probably inferring that coin mixing services like Unijoin are difficult to use and practically unsafe unless, of course, who he is replying to is interested in understanding the underlying technology the coin mixing service is built upon, and in that regard, it makes sense to refer him to a technical document not on Bitcoin but on the mixing service itself.
You are completely right and I 100 precent agree with you, it is just like being a driver, one does not have any need to understand how a car engine functions to drive the car, you just simply learn how to drive, which consists of turning the steering as it should, while shifting gears as it should (for manual drive), for automatic drive, one doesn't even have to shift gears or have to know anything on how the gearbox works, they just enter a car and drive.
Same exactly as you have explained it, using a mixing service only needs the user to know how to send and recieve crypto, that all, there is absolutely no need going into reading the technical aspect of how bitcoin functions or so, doing this may likely create confusion in the mind of the user, who may likely see it all as very difficult to understand, where as it's something that is very easy.
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So technically, UniJoin Bitcoin Mixers helps users mix their Bitcoins to preserve their anonymosity especially where the use of Bitcoin is at a risk of being compromised from the cyber space.
Now I would want to know if the 1-3% charge is for all transactions, does it exceed this charge if the transaction volume is higher?
I also want to understand what happens when a glitch happens longer than necessary as their are no stored logs. How do you resolve this if previous logs has been wiped.
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Having said that, you said "Unijoin does not mix Ethereum yet" Based on my knowledge of your statement it seems like you have the impression that the Unijoin platform will provide an Ethereum mixing service in the future. Am I correct? If yes where do you get the information? Because after the shutdown of Tornado Cash, there is no cryptocurrency tumbler that has the plan of creating Ethereum mixing.
It’s in the website - if you scroll through the page you’ll see where there made a list of coins that they are most likely going to add to their mixing system and Ethereum is among them that’s was why I used “yet”.
(https://i.ibb.co/q9VGcJ3/IMG-1576.jpg) (https://ibb.co/zbDcB6T)
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If you want to use a mixer like Unijoin, then you do not have to go that far. It is not rocket science, and the mixing process is easy, even for a newbie, all they need is to create a new BTC address to receive mixed coins and set the delay time. Once you deposit the coins, the mixer will handle the rest.
hey there, I had a quick question. So I was scrolling through the Unijoin website and I saw a feature called UniCode. This options ensures that I rotate within the available Coinjoin pools. So if there is no logs stored how does Unijoin ensures I'm not in the same pool which I was before? Or does that means Unicode is stored separately for future use? I did not used Unijoin yet, but I intend to that's why I am trying to understand it properly before mixing. I know it may sound stupid but pardon my mistakes!
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hey there, I had a quick question. So I was scrolling through the Unijoin website and I saw a feature called UniCode. This options ensures that I rotate within the available Coinjoin pools. So if there is no logs stored how does Unijoin ensures I'm not in the same pool which I was before? Or does that means Unicode is stored separately for future use? I did not used Unijoin yet, but I intend to that's why I am trying to understand it properly before mixing. I know it may sound stupid but pardon my mistakes!
In essence, this is a good question, I cannot say with certainty whether someone from Unijoin has given an answer to this, but it is possible that there was a discussion about this matter earlier.
To avoid the possibility of receiving coins that you sent in some earlier mixing processes, Unicode should serve such recognition, so it is assumed that somewhere there is a record with the link Unicode and the addresses that used it earlier.
It can certainly be recognized as some kind of log.
We can probably only get a more precise explanation for this from the Unijoin devs.
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Having said that, you said "Unijoin does not mix Ethereum yet" Based on my knowledge of your statement it seems like you have the impression that the Unijoin platform will provide an Ethereum mixing service in the future. Am I correct? If yes where do you get the information? Because after the shutdown of Tornado Cash, there is no cryptocurrency tumbler that has the plan of creating Ethereum mixing.
It’s in the website - if you scroll through the page you’ll see where there made a list of coins that they are most likely going to add to their mixing system and Ethereum is among them that’s was why I used “yet”.
(https://i.ibb.co/q9VGcJ3/IMG-1576.jpg) (https://ibb.co/zbDcB6T)
Thank you for pointing this. I haven't seen the information before until now and I guess I never dived into some of the important feature's information provided on the cryptocurrency Tumbler website.
After the information posted about the possible crypto UniJoin will add to their mixing service, I did some research and I found out that this information was provided long ago but UniJoin hasn't added the listed cryptocurrencies ever since then. Do you by any chance know when they will integrate the listed altcoin because the listed altcoin is one of the cryptos 99% of all privacy enthusiasts will like to mix and adding this to the UniJoin service will put them more into the spotlight of the crypto tumbler space.
Out of curiosity, with the mode of USDT operation. Is it possible for a crypto tumbler service provider to execute privacy service with it without having their fund frozen?
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--snip-- I did some research and I found out that this information was provided long ago but UniJoin hasn't added the listed cryptocurrencies ever since then. Do you by any chance know when they will integrate the listed altcoin because the listed altcoin is one of the cryptos 99% of all privacy enthusiasts will like to mix and adding this to the UniJoin service will put them more into the spotlight of the crypto tumbler space.
Out of curiosity, with the mode of USDT operation. Is it possible for a crypto tumbler service provider to execute privacy service with it without having their fund frozen?
The only realistic answer was provided by examplens about the integration of altcoins:
I was looking at the UniJoin website and it seemed like this would be very interesting to discuss.
As far as I know, there are many kinds of mixers for Bitcoin and even in various forums they have been discussed and marketed a lot.
The mixer for Ethereum that I know uses an application from TORNADO which can dissolve every Ethereum coin transaction. TORNADO Website
But on the UniJoin website there is USDT Tether which will make every transaction private.
I don't understand how that works?? Will it work the same as Ethereum using the TORNADO application?? Please explain to me , thanks
That option is not possible, "soon" has been there for quite a long time, maybe even from the very beginning.
I think they even stated somewhere that they will not develop these possibilities. But of course, the best thing is to wait for their officials to give direct answers.
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So technically, UniJoin Bitcoin Mixers helps users mix their Bitcoins to preserve their anonymosity especially where the use of Bitcoin is at a risk of being compromised from the cyber space.
It is used to achieve anonymity, not anonymosity. Take note that using a mixer does not protect your funds from being stolen, using a mixer helps you to stay anonymous through obfuscating the origin of your tx. Privacy is different from security, though better privacy also enhances security.
hey there, I had a quick question. So I was scrolling through the Unijoin website and I saw a feature called UniCode. This options ensures that I rotate within the available Coinjoin pools. So if there is no logs stored how does Unijoin ensures I'm not in the same pool which I was before? Or does that means Unicode is stored separately for future use? I did not used Unijoin yet, but I intend to that's why I am trying to understand it properly before mixing.
Unijoin does not store logs, and after mixing it is deleted. However, you can read this, as i believe it provides an answer to your query: https://unijoin.io/en/faq#avoid-return-same-coins
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Tried using it just once and i must say, i'm totally satisfied with Unijoin mixer. Very fast speed and secure pay back to my wallet. Support team is superb and friendly, had a problem with the delay of receiving the output that took almost 24hrs but they we're able to resolved it. also It was my first time but I did like a pro because of very sample steps. I followed all steps and did successfully. Thanks
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Tried using it just once and i must say, i'm totally satisfied with Unijoin mixer. Very fast speed and secure pay back to my wallet. Support team is superb and friendly, had a problem with the delay of receiving the output that took almost 24hrs but they we're able to resolved it. also It was my first time but I did like a pro because of very sample steps. I followed all steps and did successfully. Thanks
I love the fact you talked about the swiftness of the support team. Many establishment takes this lightly but this is a very serious aspect of their relationship with the customers
Using financial sensitive platforms like Bitcoin mixers requires lots of security consciousness. And I won't personally trust a random person compared to the support team. So if the support team works fine then it's a big plus to the project.
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Tried using it just once and i must say, i'm totally satisfied with Unijoin mixer. Very fast speed and secure pay back to my wallet. Support team is superb and friendly, had a problem with the delay of receiving the output that took almost 24hrs but they we're able to resolved it. also It was my first time but I did like a pro because of very sample steps. I followed all steps and did successfully. Thanks
I can see from your explanation, you have tested using a mixer which is a good approach that would have clarified you on how the entire processes works. It is time you have to start explaining that to those that might want to mix their Bitcoin but do not understand how the process look like especially when they are uncertain whether to try it or just relaxed.
The AML bot are always targeted at some addresses that might have received funds from address that are under the government watch list. This is one of the reasons we might be required to cut the connection with multiple wallet addresses that might have send funds due to business transactions and other reasons.
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UniJoin.io's use of CoinJoin to anonymize transactions is interesting. While the single, combined transaction with multiple inputs and outputs makes tracing difficult, it relies on a large user pool for effectiveness.
The article mentions a "Wallet Distribution" option. It would be helpful to understand how this distribution is determined. Does it affect anonymity or simply the number of outputs users receive? Additionally, the emphasis on users storing the "letter of guarantee" raises a question. Without server-side data storage, how can UniJoin.io handle potential disputes or ensure user confidence in case of lost letters?
Let's also explore the claim of random fees between 1% and 3% with four decimal places. Such granularity seems unusual and could be explained further.
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Having gone through the content, I would gladly appreciate if soothing answers can be proffered to my questions:
I understand that CoinJoin basically comprises a pull in of coins by people with like minds who are in pursuit of same objective.
Where one decides to withdraw his interest and request for a withdrawal of his coins, is this approach ever possible?
Secondly, at what point is the above approach possible?
Thirdly, if the withdrawal approach is possible, are there conditions attached? If 'yes' what are they?
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[...] Such granularity seems unusual and could be explained further.
I myself became interested... I think there is a logical mathematical explanation for this.
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[...] Such granularity seems unusual and could be explained further.
I myself became interested... I think there is a logical mathematical explanation for this.
The random fee is exclusively used due to bigger anonymization. The same or a similar fee can affect the recognition of the connection between two or more transactions. With a more precise percentage like 4 decimal places, it is more likely that the analysis will recognize it as a network fee than if it is a service fee.
Why exactly 4 and not 3 or 5 is a question for the devs, although I think it's a random choice.
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I love the fact you talked about the swiftness of the support team. Many establishment takes this lightly but this is a very serious aspect of their relationship with the customers
Using financial sensitive platforms like Bitcoin mixers requires lots of security consciousness. And I won't personally trust a random person compared to the support team. So if the support team works fine then it's a big plus to the project.
The relationship between the customers and an established enterprise need to be strong to ensure there is a mutual bond that will keep users to continue using such service to get their problem solved without any negative experience. Since we have so many mixers online that users can set their hands on to mix coins, it is advisable for a good mixer to create a continuous bond with users to keep the inflow much constant.
New users especially the ones that are new to mixing might find the process uneasy making some complicated mistakes that could lead to lose of fund or difficulty in output. This would never be a difficulty task to be resolved by good and reliable mixer which is the reason why one need to use a good mixer for conjoining of coins.
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I love the fact you talked about the swiftness of the support team. Many establishment takes this lightly but this is a very serious aspect of their relationship with the customers
Using financial sensitive platforms like Bitcoin mixers requires lots of security consciousness. And I won't personally trust a random person compared to the support team. So if the support team works fine then it's a big plus to the project.
The relationship between the customers and an established enterprise need to be strong to ensure there is a mutual bond that will keep users to continue using such service to get their problem solved without any negative experience. Since we have so many mixers online that users can set their hands on to mix coins, it is advisable for a good mixer to create a continuous bond with users to keep the inflow much constant.
New users especially the ones that are new to mixing might find the process uneasy making some complicated mistakes that could lead to lose of fund or difficulty in output. This would never be a difficulty task to be resolved by good and reliable mixer which is the reason why one need to use a good mixer for conjoining of coins.
If we are to be talking about easy to use mixers, then I can you tell that Unijoin is definitely one of the those, in fact, one of the best in this regard, the step by step procedure to mixing coins ensures a very easy to understand process, guarantees zero mistakes what so ever, except the user wasn't paying enough attention and mistakenly submitted a wrong address in the process, that can I believe can still be fixed if the users notice it on time when mixed coins havent been sent to the wrong address, but let's say this somehow results in the lose of fund, this absolutely Is no fault of the mixer as we all can agree.
So, in all, I agree wit all that you said, the coinjoin service is one that is beginning to look like online gambling casinos with new mixers launching almost every day, But then, the best mixers will always survive no matter how high the competition gets.
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Feel free to join and try your luck to win a nice Unijoin card 8) Raffle #16 is now started :)
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Good luck!
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Unijoin is currently in maintenance mode. I mixed some coin yesterday morning and I still haven’t received it yet because of the maintenance issue, once I get the coin I’ll proceed with my review.
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Feel free to join and try your luck to win a nice Unijoin card 8) Raffle #16 is now started :)
[FREE RAFFLE] - Custom UniJoin Card, (#16) (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=320984.msg1550838#msg1550838)
Good luck!
Thank you once again for the opportunity bud, and thanks to Unijoin for their continues provision of this cards.
Unijoin is currently in maintenance mode. I mixed some coin yesterday morning and I still haven’t received it yet because of the maintenance issue, once I get the coin I’ll proceed with my review.
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OK, just learning about this, if you have actually mixed your coins before the maintainance commenced, I believe you should receive your bitcoins immediately the time you set is reached, this should have nothing to do with maintainance except for those are wanting to mix afresh.
Did you take note of the actual time you set to receive your coins? Have the time elapsed and you still haven't received?
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OK, just learning about this, if you have actually mixed your coins before the maintainance commenced, I believe you should receive your bitcoins immediately the time you set is reached, this should have nothing to do with maintainance except for those are wanting to mix afresh.
It seems like they started the maintenance process while the timer for the mixing was still on - so mine got caught up in the process.
Did you take note of the actual time you set to receive your coins? Have the time elapsed and you still haven't received?
Yes I did. It was a 2 hour duration and when the timer ended it changed from “Done” to “Awaiting CoinJoin” and later “Maintenance” and then back to “Awaiting CoinJoin” before I finally went offline.
Although they had a note concerning the awaiting Coinjoin so users won’t panic when it happens.
Copied from unijoin.io (http://unijoin.io)
Awaiting CoinJoin: If the CoinJoin has not been completed after the waiting period, your payout may be delayed further. This can be due to the high utilisation of the blockchain, changing transaction fees or unfilled CoinJoin rounds. You will receive your payout to your specified addresses as soon as the CoinJoins are completed. In general, it is recommended to set a higher waiting period for transactions with higher volumes. The additional waiting time is usually a few minutes up to a few hours.
By the way, I have finally received my mixed coin, it came three hours ago. I can now proceed with my review.
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By the way, I have finally received my mixed coin, it came three hours ago. I can now proceed with my review.
OK, happy to learn that you later received your mixed coin several hours ago, I believed that since the time you set had elapsed, it won't be long before you receive your coins, for I believe the coins you mixed arent so large that it should see or experience any significant delay whatsoever.
I suppose that the maintenance was not planned for, it's possible that whatever lead to the maintenance came up all of a sudden, as I personally believe that if the maintenance was planned, then there should have been an announcement of the maintenance a day before; or several hours away before the time the maintenance is scheduled, but all good by the way..
Looking forward to your review.
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I suppose that the maintenance was not planned for, it's possible that whatever lead to the maintenance came up all of a sudden, as I personally believe that if the maintenance was planned, then there should have been an announcement of the maintenance a day before; or several hours away before the time the maintenance is scheduled, but all good by the way..
Looking forward to your review.
These days we have a lot of instability in the operation of some Coinjoin services. (Whether it's a coincidence or not, it coincides with the problem that the Samurai wallet developers ran into). I wouldn't be surprised if it's about emergency maintenance to avoid a similar (Samurai) scenario.
By the way, I have finally received my mixed coin, it came three hours ago. I can now proceed with my review.
I'm glad that the mixing process went well, you could do some risk score analysis of the Bitcoins you got after mixing
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I am currently unable to contact UniJoin. It seems their website is now down and their Twitter account has been deleted (or suspended).
Therefore, until the circumstances are clarified, I will rename the thread to “Closed” and delete links leading to the site.
What comes to my mind is that they suspended work like Wasabi did.
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I am currently unable to contact UniJoin. It seems their website is now down and their Twitter account has been deleted (or suspended).
Therefore, until the circumstances are clarified, I will rename the thread to “Closed” and delete links leading to the site.
What comes to my mind is that they suspended work like Wasabi did.
Still hope for some positive news but it was my first thought too when I just saw that the website was down a few minutes ago...
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I don't think it's a coincidence considering what's happened in recent weeks with Samourai and Wasabi. I hope the UniJoin team finds a way to continue offering the service and as @paid2 says I hope we hear good news soon. Something tells me that "the police of the world" continue doing what they want, trying to eliminate privacy on the Internet.
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Something tells me that "the police of the world" continue doing what they want, trying to eliminate privacy on the Internet.
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