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Learning & News => For Beginners => Basic questions about this forum => Topic started by: Uruhara on January 24, 2024, 08:37:50 AM
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Actually, at first I didn't pay much attention to the Karma I had. But after I saw I had 5 Karma that had appeared on my profile. Now I'm curious.
Who sent Karma to me?
And which topic or post do I get Karma?
I realized that Karma was sent directly to my profile and not to a post I made. But I was just curious and asked.
Honestly, I'm interested in seeing the flow of entry and exit of Karma to provide evaluation material and find out what things make someone impressed and send Karma to fellow users.
Karma may not have an effect on ranking increases, but seeing our karma increase sometimes also gives an impression that makes us more enthusiastic in this forum.
So I need more information about Karma.
Thank You :)
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Actually, at first I didn't pay much attention to the Karma I had. But after I saw I had 5 Karma that had appeared on my profile. Now I'm curious.
Who sent Karma to me?
And which topic or post do I get Karma?
Till now there is no update about Karma. Who gave Karma on any post it is not visible till now. But in the future, there will definitely be an update on this karma, then we will be able to see who has given karma to which post. But most likely the admin can see who gave which karma.
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Who sent Karma to me?
And which topic or post do I get Karma?
At first, I was also curious to find out who sent me Karma, so I checked my profile for confirmation. However, I couldn't find any information or activity logs that could help me identify the sender, only the badge earned about Karma can be seen. This led me to ask a similar question the same as your question, and the response I received was this. I hope this also answers your question.
Only admin has an access to karma logs, so only he can see who, whom and for what.
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Who sent Karma to me?
And which topic or post do I get Karma?
This question has been asked before and I remembered the admin says that Karma activities can only be seen by the moderators and the admin because of the fear of karma abuse and fear of people points for post. You can't know that unless the admin tells or check that log, not a thing for ordinary member to see.
I realized that Karma was sent directly to my profile and not to a post I made. But I was just curious and asked.
Karma wasn't sent to your profile, it was as a result of karma given to you from other members for the post you made.
Honestly, I'm interested in seeing the flow of entry and exit of Karma to provide evaluation material and find out what things make someone impressed and send Karma to fellow users.
Karma may not have an effect on ranking increases, but seeing our karma increase sometimes also gives an impression that makes us more enthusiastic in this forum.
So I need more information about Karma.
Thank You :)
I'm also,interested in how this karma works. It will make sense for a person to know who and who sent karma but if you look at the other way, people will turn it to a weapon of favoritism and nepotism among each other and even managers might start to use it to consider space in the signature campaigns in th forum. Making this karma public will go two ways I'm sure.
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Karma activities can only be seen by the moderators and the admin
admin only. Moderators don't see karma logs. :)
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Karma is like merit. In altcoin if your post is good and quality done then you can get karma. Karma is paid by senior members and all members above. If your post is informative and good then those who like the post can give you karma if they want. On the other hand if your post is not good then you can get negative karma. As a result, your post may not be as good or get the information they want. Before posting, we should all look at the quality of the post to see how much relevant information we can include in the post and whether it is related to the content of the post.
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Karma is like merit.
I'd not say so, karma is more like a like or a dislike in social media rather than merit. First, it can be negative, next you have nearly as much karma to give as you wish.
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I'd not say so, karma is more like a like or a dislike in social media rather than merit. First, it can be negative, next you have nearly as much karma to give as you wish.
Yes, I agree with you Jokers, karma on this forum is similar to like and dislike that we find on social media. If someone likes your post then they give it a positive karma and if they didn't like it then they either avoid it or send negative karma to it.
The chances of having positive karma gets higher when you make good quality posts but when someone scams others or should rude behavior then they will most probably get negative karma for their act. I have also noticed that when you send +1 Karma to a user then you'll have to wait 10 hours to send more +karma to that user.
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I realized that Karma was sent directly to my profile and not to a post I made. But I was just curious and asked.
Indeed. People sent it to your profile directly, it doesn't through to your post.
However, people can reward you karmas because of your post quality or your contribution to forum.
I need more information about Karma.
Kindly read this https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=657.0.
Karma is like merit.
No, it is not. It doesn't function as merit. But it is also a kind of appreciation from other people related to our post quality and contribution to forum.
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So you could give everyone posting here a karma if you want to. Seems like giving karma is fairly easy to give to anyone. pretty kool.
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So you could give everyone posting here a karma if you want to. Seems like giving karma is fairly easy to give to anyone. pretty kool.
Yes, just like they say, it is the same as giving likes and dislikes. I think we can consider the karma system similar to the merit system since it requires karma points to rank up. It's really quite easy to give karma to anyone, so I can see that there's a possibility of it being misused in the future. However, I believe the admin has taken countermeasures to prevent this by keeping the karma logs visible only to themselves.
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Thank you all for your responses to my topics and questions. And I got satisfactory answers from all of you. And now I understand why the logs for Karma can only be seen by Admin. Because well it would be much better to be invisible to all users. Because after I thought about it, it turned out that it was more comfortable like now.
Yesterday I thought of Karma as Merit, but now I understand that there is a difference. Because of Merits there are limitations in sending because you must have at least 2 Merits to be able to have sMerits that can be sent to other users. Meanwhile, Karma is just like LIKE and LIKE, like good appreciation and vice versa. And it seems there are no limits. If I am wrong, please correct it by Admin.
Saya sekarang merasa lebih bebas karena saya bisa mengapresiasi setiap pengguna yang memiliki postingan bermanfaat disini. +1 Karma untuk semuanya atas respon bermanfaat dari semuanya. :)
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I'm trying to send +1 karma to all users who reply on this topic. But there is one user who I tried to send +1 Karma in this topic. But when I sent 1 karma to him, his Karma indicator became 0. And I don't know the cause. When I tried to send it back because I thought I was mistaken. it turns out I had to wait up to 10 hours to be able to send it back. Which means my +1 karma submission has been successful. But the strange thing is why the indicator shows that the user has 0 karma. ???
Well, this new knowledge for me about Karma can only be sent to 1 user once every 10 hours. Correct me if I'm wrong. The experiment will probably continue 8)
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I'm trying to send +1 karma to all users who reply on this topic. But there is one user who I tried to send +1 Karma in this topic. But when I sent 1 karma to him, his Karma indicator became 0. And I don't know the cause. When I tried to send it back because I thought I was mistaken. it turns out I had to wait up to 10 hours to be able to send it back. Which means my +1 karma submission has been successful. But the strange thing is why the indicator shows that the user has 0 karma. ???
The zero karma could be a glitch. Have you tried refreshing and check that member's karma count again? The time limitation for sending to the same person was set to prevent abuse.
Well, this new knowledge for me about Karma can only be sent to 1 user once every 10 hours. Correct me if I'm wrong. The experiment will probably continue 8)
This doesn't apply to the admin account. I don't know if moderators and other forum officers have the same privilege. For the rest, it's the same 10-hour limitation.
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I'm trying to send +1 karma to all users who reply on this topic. But there is one user who I tried to send +1 Karma in this topic. But when I sent 1 karma to him, his Karma indicator became 0. And I don't know the cause. When I tried to send it back because I thought I was mistaken. it turns out I had to wait up to 10 hours to be able to send it back. Which means my +1 karma submission has been successful. But the strange thing is why the indicator shows that the user has 0 karma. ???
The zero karma could be a glitch. Have you tried refreshing and check that member's karma count again? The time limitation for sending to the same person was set to prevent abuse.
I've checked repeatedly. And the result is still the same, namely the Karma becomes Zero. The user I mean is Mr. MVL~$ replied to this topic with reply number 5.
maybe the user in question can explain it. Sorry Did you have -Karma before?
But before I give karma, I clearly see he has 1 karma. But after I sent 1 karma, why did it become zero? ???
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But before I give karma, I clearly see he has 1 karma. But after I sent 1 karma, why did it become zero? ???
He probably had -1 karma. He spammed in several topics yesterday and lost several karma. admin even gave him -5 karma for low quality posts. Last time I saw his account yesterday he had 0 karma. So I guess later he got -karma for one of his meaningless posts additionally. So when you gave him +karma his result became 0. ;)
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Actually, at first I didn't pay much attention to the Karma I had. But after I saw I had 5 Karma that had appeared on my profile. Now I'm curious.
Who sent Karma to me?
And which topic or post do I get Karma?
I realized that Karma was sent directly to my profile and not to a post I made. But I was just curious and asked.
Honestly, I'm interested in seeing the flow of entry and exit of Karma to provide evaluation material and find out what things make someone impressed and send Karma to fellow users.
Karma may not have an effect on ranking increases, but seeing our karma increase sometimes also gives an impression that makes us more enthusiastic in this forum.
So I need more information about Karma.
Thank You :)
I just karmared you because i have similar thoughts in mind because have been getting some karma as well but there is no way one can detect who they are from and what post received the karma i guess we just keep making good contributions and that will be our reward for the contributions.
It will be good if one is able to see what post receives karma and from whom at least but if thats how the forum as always been then i think we just need to adapt to the system.
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I'd not say so, karma is more like a like or a dislike in social media rather than merit. First, it can be negative, next you have nearly as much karma to give as you wish.
But even with likes and dislikes, we know who is liking or disliking us, and on what post of ours. But in Karma's case, we don't know any of that or do we? I asked this same question that "how can we see who gave us karma" on Public chat and I was replied by a member that we can't see that. And as you have mentioned above only admins can see even moderators can't see it. How can you be so sure? Sorry if my question disrespects you but I don't know you and your post in this forum that's why I asked the source.
As I thought moderators could also see who is giving karma and to which post, as moderators meant to moderate rules and avoid spamming, and if they would not know that how they will stop karma stopping. It would become tiredsome for the admin to handle such cases. Just being curious.
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And as you have mentioned above only admins can see even moderators can't see it. How can you be so sure?
You can go to my profile and see there "Additional Membergroups:modz", so I'm sure that I can't see nor your karma logs, nor mine. ;)
If karma abused, it is seen: significant or insistent changes attract attention and admin can check.
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But before I give karma, I clearly see he has 1 karma. But after I sent 1 karma, why did it become zero? ???
He probably had -1 karma. He spammed in several topics yesterday and lost several karma. admin even gave him -5 karma for low quality posts. Last time I saw his account yesterday he had 0 karma. So I guess later he got -karma for one of his meaningless posts additionally. So when you gave him +karma his result became 0. ;)
It seems I like the system on this forum more and more. That is, when we make mistakes such as making spam posts and the like and we get -Karma then we can fix it by changing our posting habits for the better. And -Karma will disappear when someone starts to judge our posts as useful. Karma becomes like an indicator of a user's quality. And about users whose Karma becomes Zero means that they have improved their posts to be better so that -Karma starts to decrease and finally disappears. This is very interesting. :)
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I just karmared you because i have similar thoughts in mind because have been getting some karma as well but there is no way one can detect who they are from and what post received the karma i guess we just keep making good contributions and that will be our reward for the contributions.
It will be good if one is able to see what post receives karma and from whom at least but if thats how the forum as always been then i think we just need to adapt to the system.
Thank you friend. It seems like many people have questions about this. Because the more people are interested in something, the more questions they will ask to get to know that something better. And now this forum is starting to be liked because all users are starting to get used to this forum. So don't be surprised if there will be lots of questions related to this forum.
But now I am starting to understand that this Karma system is also the best as it is now. Because this can be an important indicator for assessing an account. And now I'm also starting to think that I shouldn't be stingy in giving Karma to every user who impresses me. Because Karma stock will not run out ;D
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But I will start by adding a ''+1'' to every post that I appreciate Karma. To appreciate the user. So that users know which posts managed to amaze someone. Because what I feel so far is that every time we get appreciation, the motivation to be better will grow bigger. So that our quality can continue to improve thanks to this motivation.
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Thank you friend. It seems like many people have questions about this. Because the more people are interested in something, the more questions they will ask to get to know that something better. And now this forum is starting to be liked because all users are starting to get used to this forum. So don't be surprised if there will be lots of questions related to this forum.
But now I am starting to understand that this Karma system is also the best as it is now. Because this can be an important indicator for assessing an account. And now I'm also starting to think that I shouldn't be stingy in giving Karma to every user who impresses me. Because Karma stock will not run out ;D
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But I will start by adding a ''+1'' to every post that I appreciate Karma. To appreciate the user. So that users know which posts managed to amaze someone. Because what I feel so far is that every time we get appreciation, the motivation to be better will grow bigger. So that our quality can continue to improve thanks to this motivation.
Exactly the way it should be, we are never running out of karma to send so whenever there is a post that impresses us we should never hesitate to send an appreciation karma. Users will feel appreciated and more motivated to keep contributing positively to the forum. Alot of users recently joined this forum and it is why there have been different questions recently about the forum since they are not used to the forum yet but with time everyone will get used to the system and adapt to it ways.
The karma system is not bad now but i still do think karma farming will be easily done since there is no way to identify which user a karma is being sent to but the limitation of the number of times a karma can be sent in a certain number of hours (i think 10 hours if i am not wrong) is still a good way to minimize the rate of karma farming and in my opinion if the @admin can still make a certain changes to improve the karma system to prevent karma farming will be a good idea as well.
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The karma system is not bad now but i still do think karma farming will be easily done since there is no way to identify which user a karma is being sent to but the limitation of the number of times a karma can be sent in a certain number of hours (i think 10 hours if i am not wrong) is still a good way to minimize the rate of karma farming and in my opinion if the @admin can still make a certain changes to improve the karma system to prevent karma farming will be a good idea as well.
When you know that if found karma abuse all abused karma will be deleted and the violator will face punishment up to getting a negative badge and losing a possibility of changing karma forever, it looks not so good to play in games with karma farming. There were karma abusers in the past. If to look through the users list there can be found those with karma abusers additional membership. Not the best mark to have.
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Well the + karma idea seems okay >
The - karma could be less okay. After using this thread to give karma's out to better understand the giving of good karma there is a time limit you need to wait to give the same person good karma.
I did not try to figure out bad karma time limits. One this thread does not have a bad post.
If I stumble on a bad post on the forum I will test out the limits of giving that post bad karma.
I think the time limit on bad karma should be 2x longer than on good karma. But If it is equal it would not be a big issue.
So I found an obvious Ponzi scheme .
below is the Ponzi scheme
https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=315813.msg1475356#msg1475356
I gave a negative karma and tried to do it again right away it clearly says you need to wait a period of time to
repeat a negative.
So when something is obviously 'bad' a delay in negative karma may not be too good to do.
I do realize being able to give lots of negative karma for poor reasons is not good. So the delay to repeat does have some value.
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I think the time limit on bad karma should be 2x longer than on good karma. But If it is equal it would not be a big issue.
It is the same. There is just one option of giving karma faster than in the mentioned period of time: if you did it mistakenly (for instance you gave -karma for a post deserving +karma) you can give an opposite karma immediately and it will compensate the karma you just gave and give an additional karma. So if it was -karma, the user will get +karma to compensate and +karma additionally, as a result like you'd gave him +karma from the very beginning.
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According to the admin to avoid unnecessary drama.in the forum he removed the feature which shows the person that send +karma and -Karma but even at that it would be better for him to show which of the threads worth the + or - karma. Because that one will make the op to know that it is on that particular thread or comment that karma was given and removed. Though the karma system is very much okay but just curious to know who give and who remove.
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Who sent Karma to me?
And which topic or post do I get Karma?
At first, I was also curious to find out who sent me Karma, so I checked my profile for confirmation. However, I couldn't find any information or activity logs that could help me identify the sender, only the badge earned about Karma can be seen. This led me to ask a similar question the same as your question, and the response I received was this. I hope this also answers your question.
Only admin has an access to karma logs, so only he can see who, whom and for what.
I even liked it that way that it's only the admin who has access to knowing everything about karma, if not people will abuse it, also some knowing who gives to them and who don't, they will not like to relate well in some cases when they find out that those that gives them a negative one do that to dislike their contributions, it will also make everyone givi it to do it without having second thoughts about it, they judgement for giving it out will be justified.
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You can go to my profile and see there "Additional Membergroups:modz", so I'm sure that I can't see nor your karma logs, nor mine. ;)
If karma abused, it is seen: significant or insistent changes attract attention and admin can check.
oops, I did not realize you are also a moderator I thought a rank like Modz might be written under your username and if it's not written then you are not a mod. I guess that proves everything that moderators can't see the karma but only admins can, but talking karma is abused, when it gets significant, for like 10 members a day, or for 50 members a day, Is the admin not fed up with that or he/she has nothing else to do. hehe not trying to dishearten the admin if he is reading this.
I just saying that this work should be of mods, not of admin only. Or its just so rare that admin doesn't get such cases in 10 or 50 numbers in a day? Hey another question, Are you also on Bitcointalk? I think there is a dude there too with the same name. just asking if you don't mind.
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I just saying that this work should be of mods, not of admin only. Or its just so rare that admin doesn't get such cases in 10 or 50 numbers in a day?
Let's solve problems as they arise, not in advance. If there will be an influx of karma abusers, maybe there will be some karma moderators appointed, but there are no so many abusers at the moment.
Hey another question, Are you also on Bitcointalk? I think there is a dude there too with the same name. just asking if you don't mind.
Why not. ;)
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Well the + karma idea seems okay >
The - karma could be less okay. After using this thread to give karma's out to better understand the giving of good karma there is a time limit you need to wait to give the same person good karma.
I did not try to figure out bad karma time limits. One this thread does not have a bad post.
If I stumble on a bad post on the forum I will test out the limits of giving that post bad karma.
I think the time limit on bad karma should be 2x longer than on good karma. But If it is equal it would not be a big issue.
So I found an obvious Ponzi scheme .
below is the Ponzi scheme
https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=315813.msg1475356#msg1475356
I gave a negative karma and tried to do it again right away it clearly says you need to wait a period of time to
repeat a negative.
So when something is obviously 'bad' a delay in negative karma may not be too good to do.
I do realize being able to give lots of negative karma for poor reasons is not good. So the delay to repeat does have some value.
Good try sir. I personally have never given -Karma to anyone on this forum because maybe I haven't been diligent enough to browse more boards on this forum. But reading the test you did seems to have answered my curiosity about whether there is a time limit for sending -Karma.
At first I thought that -Karma couldn't reduce +Karma. But apparently -/+Karma is a kind of user quality scale on this forum. Where both of them will eat each other between -Karma and +Karma.
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At first I thought that -Karma couldn't reduce +Karma. But apparently -/+Karma is a kind of user quality scale on this forum. Where both of them will eat each other between -Karma and +Karma.
Yes, according to the admin, positive karma is being given to the posts that will help others or those informative posts. Negative karma is given to posts that are bad like scams/Ponzi schemes, or any post that is not useful to other people, simply a spam. It is important to use karma responsibly and try not to abuse it by giving excessive positive or negative karma. Any misuse of the karma system may result in penalties.
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I gave a lot of karma the last few days. Mostly good. A few bad.
Seems like a decent way to show whom you like.
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Karma is like merit. In altcoin if your post is good and quality done then you can get karma. Karma is paid by senior members and all members above. If your post is informative and good then those who like the post can give you karma if they want. On the other hand if your post is not good then you can get negative karma. As a result, your post may not be as good or get the information they want. Before posting, we should all look at the quality of the post to see how much relevant information we can include in the post and whether it is related to the content of the post.
It is indeed similar to merit system on bitcointalk. I think karma is a combination of merit system and trust system of btt where -karma id given to those who post scam/ponzi scheme posts although as far as I remember that karma is not required to rank up.
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I know it may seem like I'm hijacking this post. But since its a discussion about karma, I just decided to ask my questions here instead. So, I haven't actually been active like I used to on this forum, I've been caught up with work and so many other things. Well upon returning I keep seeing my karma which was 9 before now suddenly dropping. I really don't know what's the cause of this and who is giving me the negative karma. I really haven't created any post for sometime and I had earned karma from some previous ones. So is this a glitch or someone is just intentionally giving me negative karma? Please someone should tell me because I wont be happy returning here and seeing another negative karma. If I wrote something wrong or incorrect(which I know I didn't) please indicate somewhere so I know how to correct my self next time. This isn't fair please. And if you are just doing it intentionally please stop.
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This isn't fair please. And if you are just doing it intentionally please stop.
This is the downside of not being able to see who gave you +/- karma, assuming it was something that was visible for everyone to see you could have easily seen it and know what resulted in them giving you the karma.
I also noticed that some few accounts that just teleported to the forum and haven’t made any posts are already having negative karma, so it became obvious that someone out there is deliberately reducing the karma of others (I don’t know what they stand to gain from it). I’ll advice that you keep a watch at your karma number and if anything happens to it despite you knowing you didn’t make any shit posts that might have annoyed anyone then you can take your case to the forum court or draw the attention of the admin to it for proper investigation.
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Well, I don't know what was the point of the one who gave you -karma, I did'n go deep into your posts but I went down three last pages and didn't see anything significantly bad. So if this will not last longer, just ignore. And here's your compensational +karma to lift the mood! ;)
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Thanks for the heads up @Jokers. Seriously the karma issue on this forum has to be resolved soon. It would really be nice to see why I had received a negative or positive karma it will serve as a heads up for improvement. Though the Admin had created another way of unlocking the see karma feature but it's a paid version which I'm not ready to try now until I have enough karma :'(
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This isn't fair please. And if you are just doing it intentionally please stop.
This is the downside of not being able to see who gave you +/- karma, assuming it was something that was visible for everyone to see you could have easily seen it and know what resulted in them giving you the karma.
I also noticed that some few accounts that just teleported to the forum and haven’t made any posts are already having negative karma, so it became obvious that someone out there is deliberately reducing the karma of others (I don’t know what they stand to gain from it). I’ll advice that you keep a watch at your karma number and if anything happens to it despite you knowing you didn’t make any shit posts that might have annoyed anyone then you can take your case to the forum court or draw the attention of the admin to it for proper investigation.
Rest assured that the admin is monitoring the karma logs closely to prevent any misuse. Several other improvements will surely be made, and it appears that the admin has many more plans in store for the future.
If you encounter a situation where you believe that your negative karma is unjustified, you can ask the admin for further assistance. The admin will investigate the matter and take appropriate action if they determine that you do not deserve negative karma. According to the administrator's statement, no one should abuse the karma system.
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Actually, at first I didn't pay much attention to the Karma I had. But after I saw I had 5 Karma that had appeared on my profile. Now I'm curious.
Who sent Karma to me?
And which topic or post do I get Karma?
I realized that Karma was sent directly to my profile and not to a post I made. But I was just curious and asked.
Honestly, I'm interested in seeing the flow of entry and exit of Karma to provide evaluation material and find out what things make someone impressed and send Karma to fellow users.
Karma may not have an effect on ranking increases, but seeing our karma increase sometimes also gives an impression that makes us more enthusiastic in this forum.
So I need more information about Karma.
Thank You :)
There are two types of karma, one is positive karma and the other is negative karma. Five karmas added to your profile means you are getting positive karma nothing to get excited about you posted good quality and another member liked your post that's why he gave karma to your post. You are now a big member of the forum and if you want you can send karma to other members profile like other members without much effort. If your karma comes down from that position then you think maybe someone else didn't like your post, maybe your post went out of line and another member gave you minus karma.
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There are two types of karma, one is positive karma and the other is negative karma. Five karmas added to your profile means you are getting positive karma nothing to get excited about you posted good quality and another member liked your post that's why he gave karma to your post. You are now a big member of the forum and if you want you can send karma to other members profile like other members without much effort. If your karma comes down from that position then you think maybe someone else didn't like your post, maybe your post went out of line and another member gave you minus karma.
The OP's quote that you are responding to is old, and I see that the OP has also responded here:
https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=316077.msg1479924#msg1479924
Admin has also made an explanation about Karma here: https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=657.0