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Title: Cheater Beyond Protocol
Post by: The Hunter on February 23, 2024, 03:37:54 PM
You can Investigate all transactions here
https://etherscan.io/address/0x5da6cea684216595d1586e71f0d391936562bb06#tokentxns

Main Account : 0x5dA6cEA684216595d1586e71F0D391936562BB06 (ETH)

Spreadsheet Beyond Protocol https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xcTD8TM9LIjwlKveubaxvXPG93byJeEQWsaZD7kp41c & https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1c5ceU1aZirizB4HsEjJTmL69KR-P15ku71fuZZo14PQ

Linked Evidence Wallet

Transaction Hash https://etherscan.io/tx/0xa5cc7280f90c6c72963a615777d59df77d7bc9d5b1d8d11cb8f9d96b7f54819b
0x23A3b518097982af46e5c2706D81dF9495E09998 sent 25 BP to 0x5dA6cEA684216595d1586e71F0D391936562BB06

who is 0x23A3b518097982af46e5c2706D81dF9495E09998 ?

1.Seerge
Profile link: https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=29104
POA : https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=152716.msg853016#msg853016
Joined HOMT Signature & Beyond Protocol (Spreadsheet no. 32) https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1c5ceU1aZirizB4HsEjJTmL69KR-P15ku71fuZZo14PQ



Transaction Hash https://etherscan.io/tx/0xe6d2ace35c3754cd5d537d454cb673abea0a466602b22d8c3cd7c2d470b09f2e
0x2Ef54f90a5b40D0DeB8B778e9E68C3A9a9482491 sent 25 BP to 0x5dA6cEA684216595d1586e71F0D391936562BB06

who is 0x2Ef54f90a5b40D0DeB8B778e9E68C3A9a9482491 ?

2.Lanirex
Profile link: https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=29106
POA : https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=190000.msg1070675#msg1070675
Joined Student Signature & Beyond Protocol (Spreadsheet no. 25) https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1c5ceU1aZirizB4HsEjJTmL69KR-P15ku71fuZZo14PQ



Transaction Hash https://etherscan.io/tx/0xcd27d02bcd7f2616bcdb233eb5c591a56b576c8a98656dc2a1fac9d3748f5c6a
0xD345Bb47aa5bF43E4572673f0e461882cA162F3E sent 25 BP to 0x5dA6cEA684216595d1586e71F0D391936562BB06

who is 0xD345Bb47aa5bF43E4572673f0e461882cA162F3E ?

3.Octoalts
Profile link: https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=29077
POA : https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=190000.msg1094285#msg1094285
Joined Student Coin &  Beyond Protocol Signature (Spreadsheet 108) https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xcTD8TM9LIjwlKveubaxvXPG93byJeEQWsaZD7kp41c



Are you familiar with the owner of these account? I'm quite surprised. Let's check its transactions here
https://bscscan.com/address/0x5da6cea684216595d1586e71f0d391936562bb06



Transaction Hash https://bscscan.com/tx/0xbd8c9986e61de2d313b286a79e7c3ccedec6ef9c0c638522a0e878652133fe56
0x07bc802A711B2a5311b9Dc35394e65F51C712aAD sent 0.04 BNB to 0x5dA6cEA684216595d1586e71F0D391936562BB06


who is 0x07bc802A711B2a5311b9Dc35394e65F51C712aAD ?
1.Profile link : https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?action=profile;u=29103 VX1 (Indonesian Moderator)

POA 1 : https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=256101.msg1336450#msg1336450
POA 2: https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=264141.msg1351504#msg1351504
Joined Beyond Protocol Signature (Spreadsheet No.76) https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xcTD8TM9LIjwlKveubaxvXPG93byJeEQWsaZD7kp41c

VX1 Joined (Coinomize Signature) & Octoalts (Tengri Signature)


The evidence is compelling, and I believe judges remain impartial. Please deliver a fair and unbiased judgment.
Title: Re: Cheater Beyond Protocol
Post by: Freemind on February 24, 2024, 09:22:03 AM
Thank you very much again for your investigative work and for publicly exposing this case. Now let's be a little patient to see what decision the judges make and the proposed sanctions for those users. In my opinion, all the work you do makes you a candidate for the decentralized team.

Again, I can only give you +1 every 10 hours, but you definitely deserve more.
Title: Re: Cheater Beyond Protocol
Post by: hair on February 28, 2024, 07:34:01 AM
Thank you @The Hunter. I really appreciate your effort. we will wait for the comment of judges and do an investigation this case
++

Thank you for freemind. always being the first person to respond to every report  here
++ for you 8)
Title: Re: Cheater Beyond Protocol
Post by: Vx1 on February 29, 2024, 03:19:05 AM
Hello my brother, I apologize for just responding to this post. Because I tried to contact Seerge to ask about whose Wallet he sent the BP Token to and I was only connected this morning.  He is very busy now and it seems like he hasn't been active on the Altcointalks forum for a long time.

OK, I'll explain here. Honestly, I forgot whose wallet 0x5dA6cEA684216595d1586e71F0D391936562BB06 belongs to.  Because in the past many of our friends in the same rented house worked on Airdrop and Bounty on Altcointalks and also on Bitcointalk together and of course we often made transactions with each other.  However, after I asked Seerge, I finally found out that it was Seerge wallet.

The problem is that I once sent BNB to this wallet, I was reminded by Seerge that he had asked me for a BNB fee.  I actually forgot because it happened a long time ago.  If I check the date, the transaction is March 9, 2022.
I still remember, Seerge once wanted to entrust BP to me...
 Luckily I haven't deleted our telegram chat, so I can show it here.

this is a screenshot of my conversation with Seerge
(https://i.ibb.co/RzrL79h/IMG-20240228-194604-481.jpg) (https://ibb.co/BqW8wt4)
(https://i.ibb.co/k27Qz7F/IMG-20240228-194604-323.jpg) (https://ibb.co/CKch4cF)
(https://i.ibb.co/p2zDtfv/IMG-20240228-194610-486.jpg) (https://imgbb.com/)

On December 7,
 I greeted Seerge on telegram, but instead Seerge sent me a telegram message that he wanted to entrust me with selling BP tokens.  Because Seerge didn't have an ETH fee, I finally gave him a little ETH for the transaction fee.
This is proof that I sent ETH to Seerge on December 7, 2021
https://etherscan.io/tx/0xc61c174a64cec43be66c3545cb91ece10a10aa78d5fa38f57b1ba622fb744deb
However, at that time Seerge did not immediately send the BP Coins to my wallet 0x5ad83B4156A262CD49b80FE8e46844C70e225AE9 (as written in my chat screenshot above)

In fact, after approximately two weeks, Seerge said that he had sold his BP Tokens along with his other friends.

You can check this, this is the BP that I have, I sent it to my own Wallet, this one is 0x5ad83B4156A262CD49b80FE8e46844C70e225AE9
https://etherscan.io/tx/0xbd33dd353b5239e7d374dbd0ed046820bacc47c9a78ce8c858f7201e12b4f699
And I sold my BP coins on November 6, 2021.

Meanwhile, Seerge sold its BP tokens on December 26 2021.
And of their BP tokens were sent to a different wallet than mine.
https://etherscan.io/tx/0x1b7c135a34b2ba7fdb572d4431d8ff1b1e2638fd9e2449eca990ab5787624ca3

That's all I can say here, and at the same time as a defense that these accounts are not mine.
 And if I check, the Seerge and Lanirex accounts have not been active for a long time.
Thank You !
Title: Re: Cheater Beyond Protocol
Post by: alltalk on March 19, 2024, 02:29:44 AM
First of all, I'd like to thank The Hunter (the plaintiff) for his efforts in helping the forum in fighting cheating in campaigns and multi-accounts. I need to emphasize that we as judges always use facts and legal rules in making decisions. We are of course always on the neutral side in deciding every case.

Based on what the plaintiff conveyed, we have carried out further investigation and analysis regarding this case.
With the facts provided, we can draw several important points regarding this case:

1. There is only 1 type of evidence, namely proof of transactions between wallets.
2. There is no supporting evidence that the sending wallet and the receiving wallet are owned by 1 person (Vx1).
3. Vx1 (the accused) provides evidence that can explain that the transaction was a transaction to another person.

As judges, we need strong and convincing admissible evidence to declare someone guilty. The evidence presented by the plaintiff is not strong enough because it is only suspected to be owned by one person. Further evidence is needed to reach the conclusion that there is a strong connection. The plaintiff does not have key evidence that elaborates on the proof of the transaction. On the other hand, the accused has also given a convincing answer that he is innocent.

We close this case with the following conclusions:
Declare that the accused is not been proven guilty of what was alleged by the plaintiff.

Thank You



"If the prosecution cannot prove the defendant’s guilt beyond a reasonable doubt, the jury or judge must acquit them"

https://thedefenders.net/blogs/acquittals/
https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/beyond_a_reasonable_doubt