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Cryptocurrency Ecosystem => Privacy Coins Forum => Monero Forum => Topic started by: dkbit98 on April 23, 2024, 10:34:45 PM

Title: XMRT : Wrapped Monero
Post by: dkbit98 on April 23, 2024, 10:34:45 PM
After many centralized exchanges started delisting Monero people started using more decentralized exchanges for XMR trading, and swap exchanges like eXch.
Liquidity for Monero has dropped and that is why Everywhere Finance decided to create wrapped Monero that can be traded on other chains with use of Defi liquidity.
I am not a fan of wrapped tokens but this could be useful for some people who like monero.
Note that 0.5% fee will be charged for each conversion.

You can find more information about XMRT in this blog article:
https://everywherefinance.medium.com/xmrt-wrapped-monero-862b43cb859b
Title: Re: XMRT : Wrapped Monero
Post by: ABCbits on April 25, 2024, 11:09:29 AM
Their idea and goal isn't bad. I also like they don't plan to implement freeze feature, although they still can prevent conversion from XMRT to XMR if they detect illegal activity. Anyway, i can see few XMR holder would benefit from this feature if they already registered to CEX which support XMRT.
Title: Re: XMRT : Wrapped Monero
Post by: dkbit98 on April 25, 2024, 04:35:32 PM
Their idea and goal isn't bad. I also like they don't plan to implement freeze feature, although they still can prevent conversion from XMRT to XMR if they detect illegal activity. Anyway, i can see few XMR holder would benefit from this feature if they already registered to CEX which support XMRT.
It's impossible to detect any ''illegal activity'' on monero, whatever that is.
Privacy is not illegal but more people are listening to governments repeating this like parrots.
Nobody really know what guys from Everywhere Finance can do on other chains, there can be bugs in code and other issues, so there is a risk involved with this.
Title: Re: XMRT : Wrapped Monero
Post by: ABCbits on April 26, 2024, 10:08:37 AM
Their idea and goal isn't bad. I also like they don't plan to implement freeze feature, although they still can prevent conversion from XMRT to XMR if they detect illegal activity. Anyway, i can see few XMR holder would benefit from this feature if they already registered to CEX which support XMRT.
It's impossible to detect any ''illegal activity'' on monero, whatever that is.
Privacy is not illegal but more people are listening to governments repeating this like parrots.

That article seems to imply they plan to detect "illegal activity" on XMRT though. And yesterday they just post more detailed explanation about XMRT on https://everywherefinance.medium.com/xmrt-goals-how-it-works-9c17cca90e75 (https://everywherefinance.medium.com/xmrt-goals-how-it-works-9c17cca90e75).

Nobody really know what guys from Everywhere Finance can do on other chains, there can be bugs in code and other issues, so there is a risk involved with this.

Yeah, such risk always exist on pegged or wrapped coin.
Title: Re: XMRT : Wrapped Monero
Post by: dkbit98 on April 26, 2024, 06:44:17 PM
That article seems to imply they plan to detect "illegal activity" on XMRT though. And yesterday they just post more detailed explanation about XMRT on https://everywherefinance.medium.com/xmrt-goals-how-it-works-9c17cca90e75 (https://everywherefinance.medium.com/xmrt-goals-how-it-works-9c17cca90e75).
Sure, like I said they can do whatever they want on other chains like ethereum, even if they claim they won't freeze or blacklist anything.
I am sure bridging from erc20 to monero chain and vice versa will be centralized and this is the part they can always censor.
Another thing I am concerned is how peg with monero will work and potential of totally different and manipulated XMR prices.
Title: Re: XMRT : Wrapped Monero
Post by: ABCbits on April 27, 2024, 10:53:37 AM
That article seems to imply they plan to detect "illegal activity" on XMRT though. And yesterday they just post more detailed explanation about XMRT on https://everywherefinance.medium.com/xmrt-goals-how-it-works-9c17cca90e75 (https://everywherefinance.medium.com/xmrt-goals-how-it-works-9c17cca90e75).
Sure, like I said they can do whatever they want on other chains like ethereum, even if they claim they won't freeze or blacklist anything.
I am sure bridging from erc20 to monero chain and vice versa will be centralized and this is the part they can always censor.

You could be right, let's see whether they actually could do that or not in the future.

Another thing I am concerned is how peg with monero will work and potential of totally different and manipulated XMR prices.

That seems possible since there aren't many CEX still list Monero these days. But it require XMRT gaining popularity in first place, which unlikely IMO.
Title: Re: XMRT : Wrapped Monero
Post by: hugeblack on April 28, 2024, 01:38:00 PM

The idea seems contradictory. If wtoken provides the required privacy and decentralization, it will inevitably be removed, as happened with XMR, and if it does not provide these features, its value will inevitably be less than Monero, if we ignore the risks of unbundling.


The compromise solution would be something like Litecoin, where there is the possibility of using privacy options or paying without them.


It seems that I misunderstood the idea of the project. Read the next reply
Title: Re: XMRT : Wrapped Monero
Post by: dkbit98 on April 29, 2024, 05:35:33 PM
The idea seems contradictory. If wtoken provides the required privacy and decentralization, it will inevitably be removed, as happened with XMR, and if it does not provide these features, its value will inevitably be less than Monero, if we ignore the risks of unbundling.
Please READ before commenting anything about this subject.
This token does NOT provide any privacy at all, it's just a standard erc20 token on ethereum blockchain, but it should have 1:1 peg with XMR on Monero blockchain.
Only purpose for existence of XMRT is liquidity that comes from uniswap and similar exchanges.