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Re: Satoshi's emails 2009-2011 analysis and hypothesis: Who is Satoshi?
« Reply #15 on: March 15, 2024, 01:52:21 AM »
Yes indeed, Bitcoin took a life of its own even with the planned absence of the person who created it...and this is something that can easily be seen with other platforms on the scene. With this aspect alone, Bitcoin is really so unique and will continue to carve a story of its own not seen anywhere else. Good to see that after many years, we can still see the excitement on digging anything that can be associated with Satoshi Nakamoto and analyzing everything he said on topics related to Bitcoin, the blockchain and cryptocurrency. I am sure there will be so many things that will be unsettled or laid to rest not until the real Satoshi will show up on the scene, fortifying even more the mystique surrounding him.
To me, Satoshi has become a legend not only for creating the best version of internet currency to date, but also because Satoshi chose to disappear to protect the decentralized value of BTC. All we have today is BTC, emails, stories, conspiracy theories, and curiosity.

I believe that as long as BTC continues to exist, we and our descendants will continue to search for Satoshi's true identity and continue to pass on this legend to each other.

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Re: Satoshi's emails 2009-2011 analysis and hypothesis: Who is Satoshi?
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Re: Satoshi's emails 2009-2011 analysis and hypothesis: Who is Satoshi?
« Reply #16 on: March 15, 2024, 02:53:55 PM »
Is that so, I did not realize that, although I read many posts of him, can you please point out those specific posts, about which you think they aren't written by the same person? You do know that that's not allowed on BTT, to use one account by different people. And Hal Finney used to email with Satoshi, and in BTT he said he thought Satoshi was some Japanese dude. Why he did not say he is a group of people?
I don't know who's behind Satoshi. I've put my results here Why did Satoshi use GB British English and international English ?

As, we should consider the words of those who have talked with Satoshi in real life, I was young at that time, did not have the access to internet, but I assume MrSpasybo and many others did active at that time in crypto and they must have seen things with there own eyes. Well, I might be wrong, that's why I asked for those specific posts. Thanks.
The ppl who've said they knew Satoshi only communicated using emails & messages. Nobody's said they've seen Satoshi or know what he's looking like.
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Re: Satoshi's emails 2009-2011 analysis and hypothesis: Who is Satoshi?
« Reply #17 on: March 15, 2024, 10:22:01 PM »
Is that so, I did not realize that, although I read many posts of him, can you please point out those specific posts, about which you think they aren't written by the same person? You do know that that's not allowed on BTT, to use one account by different people. And Hal Finney used to email with Satoshi, and in BTT he said he thought Satoshi was some Japanese dude. Why he did not say he is a group of people?
I don't know who's behind Satoshi. I've put my results here Why did Satoshi use GB British English and international English ?

The main problem with that theory is that we assume
- he didn't do it intentionally, probably knowing that his typing or expressions used maybe in the past would give him away. I'm certain a lot of us are aware we have little habits, especially if you're from a smaller group that has its dialect
- we assume he learned English in standard school so he would use either British or us and not that he maybe came from a mixed family or English was something he learned in a country where those are too intervened, former British territories are all like that

Sincerely, I don't get all those useless theories about who satoshi is or isn't.

People still search for the identities of Pharaohs from 4000 years ago and you think they will let this go?  ;D
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Re: Satoshi's emails 2009-2011 analysis and hypothesis: Who is Satoshi?
« Reply #18 on: March 16, 2024, 02:51:23 PM »


• What about the more than 1 million Bitcoins that Satoshi owns?
>> If Hal Finney is Satoshi, then the holder of the private key is his wife, and she may have lost it or she may never reveal herself until an emergency to protect her husband's secret.



This is a very interesting read, anything about Nakamoto is worth reading especially if it is backed by facts, the 1 million Bitcoin by Nakamoto is on subject that we all want to address

If Hal Finney is established as the real Nakamoto people will speculate that his wife or one of his heirs has the private keys, will this endanger their lives or people will be interested to investigate them because of the 1 million Bitcoin that will soon have values reaching billions of dollars in the future.
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Re: Satoshi's emails 2009-2011 analysis and hypothesis: Who is Satoshi?
« Reply #19 on: March 16, 2024, 03:34:24 PM »
People that created bitcoin do not want anyone to know who Satoshi is, but people are just trying all possible efforts to know who Satoshi is. Although, with the COPA law suit against Wright in London can make some people to make certain conclusion who Satoshi is with the Satoshi email that Sirius took to public. But know that nobody knows who Satoshi is.

If you are a bitcoin developer or holding bitcoin or mining bitcoin or running your own bitcoin node or spreading the word bitcoin to let other people know what it is, you are Satoshi. Anyone that contributed in the adoption of bitcoin is Satoshi.
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Re: Satoshi's emails 2009-2011 analysis and hypothesis: Who is Satoshi?
« Reply #20 on: March 16, 2024, 05:49:04 PM »
Although, with the COPA law suit against Wright in London can make some people to make certain conclusion who Satoshi is with the Satoshi email that Sirius took to public. But know that nobody knows who Satoshi is.

With the lawsuit, we just made it clear who is not Satoshi, but none of those emails and their content point to anything more than speculation on the identities, I still think that the Hal connections some try to push is a bit too far fetched, there are a few critical points that just make no sense, and I simply don't get if you want to keep hidden you wouldn't be the first person to interact with your fake persona, right?

If Hal Finney is established as the real Nakamoto people will speculate that his wife or one of his heirs has the private keys, will this endanger their lives or people will be interested to investigate them because of the 1 million Bitcoin that will soon have values reaching billions of dollars in the future.

Hihi, those have reached one billion in value in 2013, they would be worth 70 billion now.
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Re: Satoshi's emails 2009-2011 analysis and hypothesis: Who is Satoshi?
« Reply #21 on: March 16, 2024, 08:22:09 PM »
I don't know who's behind Satoshi. I've put my results here Why did Satoshi use GB British English and international English ?
You have made a good topic here as it should be considered as a good discovery. Although it doesn't prove much. But the words that Satoshi was using are mostly British English based and British English is not taught in Japan. So I guess he is not Japanese. Well, who knows who he is, where is he from? A lot of people say the FBI was behind the creation of BTC. So in response, some ask why there is no backdoor in the BTC code then. In response to this, many say there are many randomisers in the code that have loopholes. (I just heard this statement in an interview, might be wrong).

The point is we should leave it, because the real wealth always want to remain in shadows, there are hackers, there are heroes who prefer to avoid publicity for many reasons, I guess Satoshi is one of those guys. At last he have got a good amount of BTC in his holdings.
The ppl who've said they knew Satoshi only communicated using emails & messages. Nobody's said they've seen Satoshi or know what he's looking like.
I understands that, as who would have saw him.
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Re: Satoshi's emails 2009-2011 analysis and hypothesis: Who is Satoshi?
« Reply #21 on: March 16, 2024, 08:22:09 PM »


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Re: Satoshi's emails 2009-2011 analysis and hypothesis: Who is Satoshi?
« Reply #22 on: March 18, 2024, 11:34:33 PM »
With the lawsuit, we just made it clear who is not Satoshi, but none of those emails and their content point to anything more than speculation on the identities, I still think that the Hal connections some try to push is a bit too far fetched, there are a few critical points that just make no sense, and I simply don't get if you want to keep hidden you wouldn't be the first person to interact with your fake persona, right?
Everything is possible, and Satoshi could do anything to confuse us, such as the writing styles in emails and the Bitcoin Whitepaper. Some other evidences prove that Hal could not be Satoshi, and Hal himself has denied this, but based on what we have, especially from the newly revealed emails, I still find Hal to be the most likely candidate to be Satoshi. Anyway, Hal has passed away and we can only speculate or wait for disclosure from Hal's family.

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Re: Satoshi's emails 2009-2011 analysis and hypothesis: Who is Satoshi?
« Reply #23 on: March 26, 2024, 02:19:27 PM »
Everything is possible, and Satoshi could do anything to confuse us, such as the writing styles in emails and the Bitcoin Whitepaper. Some other evidences prove that Hal could not be Satoshi, and Hal himself has denied this, but based on what we have, especially from the newly revealed emails, I still find Hal to be the most likely candidate to be Satoshi. Anyway, Hal has passed away and we can only speculate or wait for disclosure from Hal's family.
Exactly, but Satoshi wouldn't think short term like that, Satoshi Nakamoto would of course think long term about what would happen when his identity was discovered. I'm sure that to this day it is still a secret that may almost be solved as to who the real Satoshi Nakamoto is.

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Re: Satoshi's emails 2009-2011 analysis and hypothesis: Who is Satoshi?
« Reply #24 on: March 27, 2024, 06:39:26 PM »
Exactly, but Satoshi wouldn't think short term like that, Satoshi Nakamoto would of course think long term about what would happen when his identity was discovered. I'm sure that to this day it is still a secret that may almost be solved as to who the real Satoshi Nakamoto is.
Satoshi makes many people curious and to be honest I don't care about the presence of Satoshi, Bitcoin without Satoshi makes the price very expensive, but there is no guarantee that if Satoshi is found the price will still be this expensive.

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Re: Satoshi's emails 2009-2011 analysis and hypothesis: Who is Satoshi?
« Reply #25 on: March 27, 2024, 09:12:32 PM »
I don't know why many were so concerned on knowing much about Satoshi than bitcoin he has made for everyone to enjoy...
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The quest of knowing who Satoshi is will be coming up now and then and people will keep asking and bringing up different connections of who they thought could be Satoshi. However, the only thing we can do is to play a deaf ear to whom the assume Satoshi is, because it doesn't matter to us since Satoshi has given us bitcoin to have as a store of value and as another means of payment. So, who's ever asked about Satoshi is just wasting his or her time because whatever they have found out, doesn't change our mindset of what we have thought Bitcoin to be.

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Re: Satoshi's emails 2009-2011 analysis and hypothesis: Who is Satoshi?
« Reply #26 on: March 27, 2024, 11:15:26 PM »
I don't know why many were so concerned on knowing much about Satoshi than bitcoin he has made for everyone to enjoy...
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The quest of knowing who Satoshi is will be coming up now and then and people will keep asking and bringing up different connections of who they thought could be Satoshi. However, the only thing we can do is to play a deaf ear to whom the assume Satoshi is, because it doesn't matter to us since Satoshi has given us bitcoin to have as a store of value and as another means of payment. So, who's ever asked about Satoshi is just wasting his or her time because whatever they have found out, doesn't change our mindset of what we have thought Bitcoin to be.
That's right, the most important thing right now is Bitcoin's future. If Satoshi Nakamoto is found, then what will happen next? Will it make the price increase again or will it just create bad news that will bring down Bitcoin's price, so far without knowing who Satoshi is, it's pretty good and the price could be very expensive.

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Re: Satoshi's emails 2009-2011 analysis and hypothesis: Who is Satoshi?
« Reply #27 on: March 27, 2024, 11:33:04 PM »
There is a lot of speculation about who Satoshi really is. is he a person or several people who form a group and are named Satoshi. There are also those who claim to be Satoshi with nonsensical evidence, which actually seems embarrassing.

And, this Finney thing is one that is often associated with Satoshi, but there hasn't been any recognition because of his condition.

Here, whoever Satoshi is, whatever the circumstances, it doesn't matter. The most important thing is that what he has done by creating Bitcoin is truly extraordinary. Moreover, his decision to disappear and no longer manage Bitcoin directly is an extraordinary decision. He definitely has certain plans so that he is not directly involved in various Bitcoin processes in the future. Because he wants things that are decentralized. Thanks  to Satoshi.

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Re: Satoshi's emails 2009-2011 analysis and hypothesis: Who is Satoshi?
« Reply #28 on: March 29, 2024, 01:24:57 PM »
There is a lot of speculation about who Satoshi really is. is he a person or several people who form a group and are named Satoshi. There are also those who claim to be Satoshi with nonsensical evidence, which actually seems embarrassing.

And, this Finney thing is one that is often associated with Satoshi, but there hasn't been any recognition because of his condition.

Here, whoever Satoshi is, whatever the circumstances, it doesn't matter. The most important thing is that what he has done by creating Bitcoin is truly extraordinary. Moreover, his decision to disappear and no longer manage Bitcoin directly is an extraordinary decision. He definitely has certain plans so that he is not directly involved in various Bitcoin processes in the future. Because he wants things that are decentralized. Thanks  to Satoshi.
Exactly, if you think logically, Bitcoin owners really want to hide their identity because they are aware of the dangers that could threaten them. We know that there are those who lose a lot of money from Bitcoin and there are also those who gain profits from Bitcoin. The percentage of risk of being killed because being a Bitcoin developer is very high, there have been many news of cryptocurrency developers being murdered.

But currently it is very confusing, many claim they are Satoshi Nakamoto who is believed to have built Bitcoin. Aren't they afraid of the bad risks that could happen at any time? That's terrible my mate, if I were a cryptocurrency developer I would prefer to hide my identity for sure.

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Re: Satoshi's emails 2009-2011 analysis and hypothesis: Who is Satoshi?
« Reply #29 on: March 31, 2024, 01:51:10 AM »
Exactly, if you think logically, Bitcoin owners really want to hide their identity because they are aware of the dangers that could threaten them. We know that there are those who lose a lot of money from Bitcoin and there are also those who gain profits from Bitcoin. The percentage of risk of being killed because being a Bitcoin developer is very high, there have been many news of cryptocurrency developers being murdered.

But currently it is very confusing, many claim they are Satoshi Nakamoto who is believed to have built Bitcoin. Aren't they afraid of the bad risks that could happen at any time? That's terrible my mate, if I were a cryptocurrency developer I would prefer to hide my identity for sure.
It is true that some people do not want to disclose their investment in BTC because they do not want to take risks, but many people like Elon Musk, Saylor or Kiyosaki are comfortable sharing that they are holding BTC. Some developers at Bitcore also share their identities without fear of being attacked. Maybe they are well protected or their crypto assets are not large enough to endanger their lives.

What we can be sure of is that the real identity of Satoshi has not been found so far. CW is just Faketoshi and he has lost all his reputation trying to prove himself to be Satoshi for many years. I don't know who Satoshi is, but I believe that if Satoshi left in silence, Satoshi would not come back in such a noisy and crazy way!

 

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